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Caveat emptor!!!!

Why are we Africans so ..... don't let me finish it...

Dpharmacist:
A few corrections are necessary here.

First, Lenacapavir is not a vaccine. It is an antiretroviral drug used for HIV prevention under the Pre Exposure Prophylaxis (PrEP) programme. The only difference is that it is long acting and taken twice a year instead of daily pills.

Second, the claim that COVID vaccines caused widespread infertility, cancer, or mass deaths has never been supported by credible global data. While people had allergic reactions and negative effect from it, it is not a global phenomenon. Billions of people worldwide took the vaccines, including in Europe and the United States. If such effects were widespread as you claim , population and hospital data would clearly show it. They do not.

Third, HIV prevention drugs are not designed for Africa alone. PrEP has been widely used for years in countries like the US and across Europe before being introduced in many African countries.

The reason prevention programmes focus on parts of Africa is simple: HIV prevalence is higher in some regions, so public health efforts go where the need is greatest.

Do you see how Africans are reckless with sex and don't bother using condoms yet are fast to jump that it is a western agenda. We do nothing just keep blaming.

Healthy skepticism is fine, but it should be based on real evidence, not assumptions, conspiracies or extrapolation.

Before spreading fear, it is better to understand how these medicines actually work.

Your response sounds confident, but it also ignores several realities people are raising.

First, saying there is no evidence while dismissing the growing number of lawsuits and compensation claims against companies like Pfizer, Moderna, and AstraZeneca is not honest debate. Millions of lawsuit cases have been filed in different countries by individuals who believe they suffered serious adverse effects. Whether every claim is proven or not, pretending there is no controversy while media coverage stays silent and selective only deepens public mistrust.

Second, people are not foolish for remembering history. African populations have previously been used in questionable medical trials and experiments by foreign institutions. Because of that history, skepticism toward externally driven health campaigns is understandable. Prevention programmes do not automatically gain trust simply because they are labeled public health.


Third, pointing fingers at Africans as reckless with sex oversimplifies the issue and shifts attention away from deeper social solutions. Public health is not only about medication. It also involves community responsibility, moral values, education, and cultural stability. Restoring stronger communal and family values can play a major role in preventing diseases like HIV.

Finally, questioning pharmaceutical interventions does not mean rejecting science. It means asking whether the same institutions with massive financial interests should automatically be trusted without scrutiny. Healthy debate is not fear-mongering; it is part of accountability.

If prevention is truly the goal, it should combine transparent science, cultural responsibility, and public trust not pressure campaigns, dismissive attitudes, or narratives that silence legitimate concerns.

Dpharmacist:
You guys have started again. This is not even a vaccine.

we accept just anything from the whites without scrutiny and that is dangerous. There is this theory that the day Africa see the light and wake up, that will be the end of the whites.

babayinka77:
When is Vaccine for Cancer coming out? More interested in that.

Why would you be looking forward for a "cancer vaccine" .... when cancer can be prevented or cured by some local herbs? Wayyyy too many of us shun effective local remedies and turn to ineffective and damaging ultra expensive Western remedies. Why? ... inferiority complex. Cancer?....we think chemotherapy. Survival rate of chemotherapy.... 5% in 5 years. Alternative therapy (herbs etc.. natural products) ...90% in 5 years. But we still opt for chemo and shun alternative. B.S? .. do you know of anyone that has undergone chemo? ..how well have they been doing 5 years after? Do you know of anyone undergoing chemo? ... check the status of their organs to see the damage the poisonous chemo has done .... and when the person dies of organ failure .... we're told as expected ...the person died of cancer . Now here you are waiting for a vaccine.

Give to APC supporters first. After 2027, other Nigerians who have need for it will take it.

CaptainFM1:
Having HIV is already a death sentence.

It isn't

CoolUsername:
That's what some people said about the polio vaccine and that's the reason why we still have people with malformed limbs begging on the streets. Because of people like you

this is way different. Wonder why people are not rushing it in the Western world?

SkyBizzy:
Where is your proof to substantiate your claim?

there is not enough clinical trials for these vaccine. It will take some time to perfect. Anyone who takes it right now, is just a guinea pig.

JuanDeDios:
Well, you should explain. If you want to be taken seriously that is.

Not enough clinical trials yet for this vaccine to be rolled out. Too early.

walozanga:
How did u know? Must u talk

yes. Because I work in a CRO. I understand how vaccine works.

Lmao, where are they receiving the treatment from?
They deceive una self.

Quelme:
It isn't

But the drug is right?

How do we access this please

Quelme:
this is way different. Wonder why people are not rushing it in the Western world?

Has been authorized for use in Europe and North America since 2022

CoolUsername:
Has been authorized for use in Europe and North America since 2022

and nobody is taking it here. The only vaccine that is so frequently mentioned is the flu vaccine during flu season.

Uploaded similar case, like Renee Bach this woman was later given her own platform on an HBO program. Yet her case exposed something deeply troubling how a foreign missionary without proper medical training was allowed to operate a clinic in Africa, with devastating consequences. And hers is not the only case. There have been numerous reports over the years of foreign NGOs or missionaries arriving in remote African villages, presenting themselves as medical helpers, setting up clinics tto kill us, and operating with little oversight. In communities where people are desperate for healthcare, trust comes easily especially when many still believe that anything coming from the West must be right.

That blind trust has sometimes led to tragic outcomes and loss of life. This is why Africans must become more vigilant and demand accountability. Genuine help should always come with transparency, proper qualifications, and oversight. Our people deserve real healthcare, not experiments carried out in vulnerable communities.

Dpharmacist:
Sources:
3. Pharmawise

What do you think about this development?

Which European country or which American Country are they rolling out this medicines in large quantities to inject their citizens?

Pls take the injection and sleep with an infected person make i check something

Death delivered

Don27tiky:
we accept just anything from the whites without scrutiny and that is dangerous. There is this theory that the day Africa see the light and wake up, that will be the end of the whites.

Then Africa should produce their own things and stop complaining.

Quelme:
this is way different. Wonder why people are not rushing it in the Western world?

This is not even a vaccine and people comparing it with polio. Always complaining yet producing nothing. I am tired of Africans.

I hope it's nuts way of reducing our population and life expectancy...some overrated pessimists will soon be wondering why I'm questioning these oyibos . you don't know nothing if you believe that hiv was not lab-fabricated

Quelme:
there is not enough clinical trials for these vaccine. It will take some time to perfect. Anyone who takes it right now, is just a guinea pig.

Ok.
Please let's be our brothers keeper .
The country is too hard right now

Good news to Abuja politicians, 80@% of them are positive already

Hoodrat:
Your response sounds confident, but it also ignores several realities people are raising.

First, saying there is no evidence while dismissing the growing number of lawsuits and compensation claims against companies like Pfizer, Moderna, and AstraZeneca is not honest debate. Millions of lawsuit cases have been filed in different countries by individuals who believe they suffered serious adverse effects. Whether every claim is proven or not, pretending there is no controversy while media coverage stays silent and selective only deepens public mistrust.

Second, people are not foolish for remembering history. African populations have previously been used in questionable medical trials and experiments by foreign institutions. Because of that history, skepticism toward externally driven health campaigns is understandable. Prevention programmes do not automatically gain trust simply because they are labeled public health.


Third, pointing fingers at Africans as reckless with sex oversimplifies the issue and shifts attention away from deeper social solutions. Public health is not only about medication. It also involves community responsibility, moral values, education, and cultural stability. Restoring stronger communal and family values can play a major role in preventing diseases like HIV.

Finally, questioning pharmaceutical interventions does not mean rejecting science. It means asking whether the same institutions with massive financial interests should automatically be trusted without scrutiny. Healthy debate is not fear-mongering; it is part of accountability.

If prevention is truly the goal, it should combine transparent science, cultural responsibility, and public trust not pressure campaigns, dismissive attitudes, or narratives that silence legitimate concerns.

You will make me to give lengthy reply. Your concerns about history and transparency are fair and you are corect . Africa has experienced unethical medical episodes before, so skepticism toward global health initiatives is understandable. Nobody should accept medical interventions blindly.

But some of the claims being made still do not hold up when you look at the evidence.

First, lawsuits are not scientific proof. Large companies get sued constantly. What matters is population data. Over 13 billion COVID vaccine doses were administered globally and monitored by institutions like the World Health Organization, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the European Medicines Agency. These systems track adverse events in real time across entire populations. Serious side effects exist, but they are not the majority. . Humans are different physique and hidden illness so definitely there will be significant number of people with complaint. Yet there is no credible global evidence showing widespread infertility, cancer, or population collapse linked to the vaccines worldwide.

Second, the drug being discussed here is Lenacapavir, and it is not a vaccine yet you keep circling around COVID-19 vaccine. It is an antiretroviral used for Pre Exposure Prophylaxis (PrEP). PrEP drugs have been used for years in the US and Europe before many African countries adopted them.

The innovation here is simply a long acting injection twice a year, which solves the problem of people forgetting daily pills.

Third, HIV prevention programs focus on places with higher infection rates, and i will say that Africans are reckless too. Hence contributing to public health challenges. Resources go where the risk is highest. Just like questioning why a malaria vaccine is shipped to Nigeria not the west, forgetting we are endemic to malaria.

You are right that medicine alone cannot solve social problems. Education, responsibility, and culture matter. But rejecting a medical tool without evidence is not skepticism. It is simply replacing one assumption with another.
Real accountability means questioning claims from all sides and following the data wherever it leads.

You are already criticizing something before it arrive. Let Nigerians use it first and see. This is part of clinical trials.

Dpharmacist:
Then Africa should produce their own things and stop complaining.

yet to see the light like Singapore, Vietnam Korea

Quelme:
That injection is a death trap. Don't say I didn't warn you. They are just looking for guinea pigs. Ask yourselves while is there no rush for this vaccine in the Western world?

sharrap there

Hoodrat:
Uploaded similar case, like Renee Bach this woman was later given her own platform on an HBO program. Yet her case exposed something deeply troubling how a foreign missionary without proper medical training was allowed to operate a clinic in Africa, with devastating consequences. And hers is not the only case. There have been numerous reports over the years of foreign NGOs or missionaries arriving in remote African villages, presenting themselves as medical helpers, setting up clinics tto kill us, and operating with little oversight. In communities where people are desperate for healthcare, trust comes easily especially when many still believe that anything coming from the West must be right.

That blind trust has sometimes led to tragic outcomes and loss of life. This is why Africans must become more vigilant and demand accountability. Genuine help should always come with transparency, proper qualifications, and oversight. Our people deserve real healthcare, not experiments carried out in vulnerable communities.

You are right about the Renee Bach case, it was very disturbing. An untrained missionary running a clinic in Uganda showed how dangerous unregulated charity work can be. That scandal led to investigations, lawsuits, and the shutdown of her NGO Serving His Children, and it was later exposed publicly in the documentary Savior Complex.

But that case has nothing to do with regulated medicine or drug trials.

A rogue missionary clinic is completely different from a drug approved through modern regulatory systems. Medicines like Lenacapavir go through years of clinical trials, independent peer review, and regulatory checks from bodies like the World Health Organization and Nigeria’s National Agency for Food and Drug Administration and Control.

The trials for Lenacapavir involved thousands of participants and showed near 100 percent protection against HIV infection in women during the study period( you can check for PURPOSE trials) . That is published scientific data, not a missionary experiment.

So yes, Africans should demand accountability and proper oversight. But using one rogue charity case to dismiss regulated medical science is a false comparison. Evidence and regulation are exactly what prevent those kinds of abuses.

Quelme:
That injection is a death trap. Don't say I didn't warn you. They are just looking for guinea pigs. Ask yourselves while is there no rush for this vaccine in the Western world?

Western world had access to this over a decade ago, this is fallout of the Iran war. Watch out for more vaccines to be unveiled in the coming months.

They should give it free of charge to all healthcare professionals across the country.

[quote author=Originalsly post=138756970][/quote]Please tell me how many died of covid-19 shots. I'm not aware of any proof that the covid vaccines killed people.