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Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by DeepSight(m): 8:22am On Mar 16
Dbegining:
Israel and Iran are facing immediate threats EVERYDAY from Iran. The death chants they make are not mere jokes. The Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas that have been sponsored, are sponsored by Iran and Iran has never denied it.

Ater 9/11 it became evident that the US is always under the potentiality of an attack from this extremist nations. Part of their mandate in life it ti completely obliterate Israel from the world and if they get a nuclear weapon, that would be their first target.

Just this 2 weeks war, they've targeted al their neighbors. Now I know you'll say "they were housing US bases and they wanted to pass a message to them they they shouldn't house the enemy" but that's a lame argument. These countries are sovereign just as Iran and Iran has no right to tell them who and who not to align with.

And they targeted Airports, Hotels; Oman that even congratulated the new supreme leader was targeted. Is that a country that should have a nuclear weapon?

One thing about the world and about humans is that when a problem lingers, or happens repeatedly, there's always going to be a solution. There's already another route apart from the straits but it's just more expensive but trust me, a solution will be found to that.

There's something that phycologist term to explain your behavior. Humans are many times prone to support those we see as victims. Well, Iran is not a victim in this case.
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Why should they have attacked in the middle of negotiations?

Why should Israel have nuclear weapons and decide which other countries can have or not have?

What are you suggesting - that Iran should have no control of it's territorial waters? Or that Iran should be colonized?
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by CorperKola: 8:26am On Mar 16
A true clown in the white house
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by Kaybanty4u(m): 8:29am On Mar 16
Bro forget all this grammar....What i know and i beleive is that no man can be an island, will all need ourselves in one way or the other
donleo92:
American is nato and nato is American!!! cool

And imagine if America decides to withdraw from NATO, DONT YOU think that's the end of that organization undecided

Those NATO nations got to get their acts in order angry

America can do it alone, but they want it to be like a joint effort, and trust America to remember nations that helped them.... Lets forget been democrat or been Republican. America is America cool

They will be a time the European nations will need America, and they would claim neutral...... And you would see the effect angry

Ask Churchill during the second war world cool, he was begging and pleading with America to join the war, and when they did, the war was won in matter of months than years

Not failing to mention the Soviet Union cool those guys were the best in hand to hand combat cool
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by BrainScanner: 8:29am On Mar 16
RightChannel:
Have you watch the video of Bibi drinking coffee ☕

You will still cry me river in coming days!
Someone once told me that some people graduated and still dummy.

So, AI netanyahu now your god.
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by DeepSight(m): 8:30am On Mar 16
Asmanthinket:
the US has helped the EU countries immensely, and still helping them. I believe Trump based his boldness on the help the US has rendered to them in the past. Do you know that it was the US that prevented Hitler from invading the EU countries. Go and read your history. Why do you think he rejected the UKs offer in the ongoing war? It is because they delayed. They have failed to remember the Help the US has been rendering them The prime minister of UK later regretted it because he knows that they will lose big time. Even the neutralising of the Iranians leaders and their military is for the interest of the world.. it has been established that Iran sponsors terrorism all over the world. That is why the US came to Nigeria to fight against terrorism. Trumps mission is to stop terrorism in the world. I believe that Trump wants other companies to contribute in the opening of the hurmuz strait since they are also using it.
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Naive is thy name.
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by Tupacx:
Walai:
I don't understand how comprehension became a problem in this country. The man is literally saying, you benefit from this Hormuz straight for your trades, come let's open it up. I don't see anything wrong with it. They are all waiting for America to do the work of opening up the strait but this time Trump is saying I can't do all these things for you alone.
Sense is far from you.

Imaging a road used by all, you went to attack the gatekeeper of that road without getting other road users involved, knowing fully well that the road keepers will retaliate by closing the road. You now turn around to ask other road users to come and join you open the road. How sensible and logical is that?
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by Dbegining: 8:32am On Mar 16
DeepSight:
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Why should they have attacked in the middle of negotiations?

Why should Israel have nuclear weapons and decide which other countries can have or not have?
These are very good questions.

The first deal the US made with Iran was don in 10 years on negotiations. 10 good years!

And that was when the Shah was the leader. It's a stalling tactic. Now the Mullahs want to do the same. Stall while actively building nuclear weapons and also actively funding terrorist groups. They just want to stall.

Why does Israel have nuclear weapons? The same reason Russia, India, UK, France, Pakistan, etc has it. In all he wars Israel has been waging, they've never used the nuclear weapons. That means they know it's not for war purposes.

We can't say the same for Iran. They have a supreme leader whose word is law! No congress, no debate, no opposition. If he wakes up in a bad mood and says destroy that country then that country is gone!

No questions asked.

Hat kind of country can't be trusted with such a weapon.
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by Mirasteel: 8:36am On Mar 16
RightChannel:
Have you watch the video of Bibi drinking coffee ☕

You will still cry me river in coming days!
The fake AI video?
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by RightChannel: 8:38am On Mar 16
Mirasteel:
The fake AI video?
😂

You too should please donate your tears here!

Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by Mirasteel: 8:40am On Mar 16
donleo92:
American is nato and nato is American!!! cool

And imagine if America decides to withdraw from NATO, DONT YOU think that's the end of that organization undecided

Those NATO nations got to get their acts in order angry

America can do it alone, but they want it to be like a joint effort, and trust America to remember nations that helped them.... Lets forget been democrat or been Republican. America is America cool

They will be a time the European nations will need America, and they would claim neutral...... And you would see the effect angry

Ask Churchill during the second war world cool, he was begging and pleading with America to join the war, and when they did, the war was won in matter of months than years

Not failing to mention the Soviet Union cool those guys were the best in hand to hand combat cool
Ignorance in one post
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by BeeNG3: 8:40am On Mar 16
Were! Allies! 😆😆 U got none for now bro. Only ur puppet in the East. Man is not OK. Went to war stupidly alone,now u need help to open the waters, ur navy nko? U must be a joker.u don buy market.
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by Mirasteel: 8:43am On Mar 16
Walai:
I don't understand how comprehension became a problem in this country. The man is literally saying, you benefit from this Hormuz straight for your trades, come let's open it up. I don't see anything wrong with it. They are all waiting for America to do the work of opening up the strait but this time Trump is saying I can't do all these things for you alone.
US started the war so let them do all the work themselves, US shouldn't involve NATO.
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by commoditiesnig(m): 8:47am On Mar 16
Lol.. DT just dey warn warn everyone.. what a joke!

I’ve said it before this war was absolutely unnecessary.. dialogue and sanctions should have been in place instead
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by MT:
donleo92:
American is nato and nato is American!!! cool

And imagine if America decides to withdraw from NATO, DONT YOU think that's the end of that organization undecided

Those NATO nations got to get their acts in order angry

America can do it alone , but they want it to be like a joint effort, and trust America to remember nations that helped them.... Lets forget been democrat or been Republican. America is America cool

They will be a time the European nations will need America, and they would claim neutral...... And you would see the effect angry

Ask Churchill during the second war world cool, he was begging and pleading with America to join the war, and when they did, the war was won in matter of months than years

Not failing to mention the Soviet Union cool those guys were the best in hand to hand combat cool
At the bolded, you are wrong.

America military assets are overstretched.

America enemies are watching in pleasure as Trump is burning America war stockpiles foolishly.

They don't have the military capacities to open the strait of Hormuz because all their military capabilities are engaged one way or the other.

Trump entered into the war based on assumptions that the Iranians would help them to overthrow the regime. That's not happening and they are stuck in a forever war.
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by commoditiesnig(m): 8:48am On Mar 16
God1000:
From “unconditional surrender” to “please help us open the Strait of Hormuz”
Lol.. already an embarrassing mess!
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by tnerro1(m): 8:50am On Mar 16
They should lead the way, if they are not attacked, other countries will join them. After all , you didn’t inform them when you stated the war
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by benardtotti(m): 8:51am On Mar 16
Walai:
I don't understand how comprehension became a problem in this country. The man is literally saying, you benefit from this Hormuz straight for your trades, come let's open it up. I don't see anything wrong with it. They are all waiting for America to do the work of opening up the strait but this time Trump is saying I can't do all these things for you alone.
Listen to yourself how do you make sense, if you have a friend who went t9 open the lions den and then is asking you to come and defend the road to the zoo cos thats the route you pass to work ,will you do so? Did you send him on a fools errand ? Why didn't he involve you initially before going t9 open the lions den and instead of apologising and asking you properly for help he is trying to gaslight you that you stand a lot to loose if you dont come join him in his unsolicited foolishness.

You guys actually think other American presidents didn't want to take out Iran all these while ? They saw what would happen , CIA had done all the simulation of likely outcomes .
But Trump just jumped in stupidly .

The Bible says what king who is going to battle won't first sit down and plan .
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by commoditiesnig(m): 8:53am On Mar 16
kingthreat:
You began a war without consulting them and now you want to bully them into joining that war with threats.
That's not how it is done. Your allies are allies because of mutual respect, the more you don't give them the regard they deserve, your influence over them declines. Trump needs to re-advise himself.
Exactly!
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by DeepSight(m): 8:55am On Mar 16
Dbegining:
These are very good questions.

The first deal the US made with Iran was don in 10 years on negotiations. 10 good years!

And that was when the Shah was the leader. It's a stalling tactic. Now the Mullahs want to do the same. Stall while actively building nuclear weapons and also actively funding terrorist groups. They just want to stall.

Why does Israel have nuclear weapons? The same reason Russia, India, UK, France, Pakistan, etc has it. In all he wars Israel has been waging, they've never used the nuclear weapons. That means they know it's not for war purposes.

We can't say the same for Iran. They have a supreme leader whose word is law! No congress, no debate, no opposition. If he wakes up in a bad mood and says destroy that country then that country is gone!

No questions asked.

Hat kind of country can't be trusted with such a weapon.
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Pls go back to my post I added one more question.
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by Mirasteel: 9:01am On Mar 16
KobolanderSegun:
Their wanting to take Greenland has opened Europeans eyes. They are searching for their own solutions now.
The biggest mistake Trump made.
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by Miosofune(m): 9:03am On Mar 16
Helinuss:
This failure of an OP doesnt sleep?

Your iran top generals in their tens where wiped
Your untouchable ayatollah was eliminated
Iran president was touched

You go look for cheap propaganda up and down. What is the problem with you terrorists?

cool
Then why is the fool running up an down seeking for help to open Strait of Hormuz, when he has won by killing Iran leaders? Soon America will stoop so low to be a begged country.
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by allthingsgood: 9:04am On Mar 16
RightChannel:
Have you watch the video of Bibi drinking coffee ☕

You will still cry me river in coming days!
That video is fake
74% manufactured by AI. Bibi is d**d
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by djseanjohn77: 9:05am On Mar 16
HacheNoire:
When Trump starts composing novels, know that shiit is real. Look at the latest novel he composed.
If they are annihilated, why call for help. According to Trump and Hegseth, repeatedly they have said they have decimated 90% of their military capacity. I live and work in the Middle East....Iran has been causing serious havoc and disruption here. No interception is working, the only country that has tried so far is Qatar.
The America's war equipment has been so exposed as ineffective against a formidable opponents. But you do not expect America to accept that, accepting that means they will lose the market to competitors.
First, it was Russia exposing the lapses in their equipment, and then Pakistan vs India few days war. Now Iran.

The truth is, can America fight you heads on with equal opportunities to resources and economy? Absolutely not.
They fight by first weakening your capacity to live, breathe, produce war machines, regime change, uproar (by paying unpatriotic citizens to betray you). When they feel they have choked you enough, then they come attacking.

Iran has been under sanction for over 40 years, 47 years precisely. Yet these people are living, have been able to survive and at the same time build a defense for themselves.

Since their economic war hasn't worked against them, they want to come militarily. But they cannot do it alone even though they lie to themselves they are the strongest military world-wide. If they believe themselves, they won't be using proxies and economic war to fight Russia and China. Yes, they have quite a multitude of expensive piece of irons called, but mostly ineffective. the toilets on their Aircrafts carrier were not working for weeks.

Their style of warfare is hit and run. then push proxies to fight you - such as NATO (32 countries put together). They had to use these many countries to be able to overcome Libya, Yemen is still standing militarily, they spent 20 years in Afghanistan to replace Taliban with another Taliban, with America losing thousands of men for nothing and equipment.
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by Bluntemperor: 9:06am On Mar 16
DeepSight:
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Why should they have attacked in the middle of negotiations?

Why should Israel have nuclear weapons and decide which other countries can have or not have?

What are you suggesting - that Iran should have no control of it's territorial waters? Or that Iran should be colonized?
Oga,Rest and stop 🚏 talking on this you don't know anything about,for people like you just come on a Forum to expose your perfunctory knowledge, instead of keeping quiet 🤐 in international Affairs and DIPLOMACY!
1. In 1948,
- Israel and Palestine were given a Charter by Creation of UNITED Nations - that they Should EXIST -Side by Sides.
While Israel took the decision by Faith and moved on , but Some Arab-Countries - including Iran refused and rejected that UN decision! Since 1948- how many years now?
•As times goes on, Isrealis became Stronger 💪 and makes America the Best of Friend -because when the Hitler- killed millions of them due to hatred in Germany then,they( Israeli) ran to Other Countries - Especially the USA - that is why every Americans have back grounds of being an Israeli.
-Go and check your history - and find out - who are Mostly -the Congress in USA?
As times pass by ,Some Arabs like Egypt and others became friends,while your Iran - refused to acknowledge Israel to live,so if you are the one- who is Israel ( that Someone has been threatening to Destroy you since 1948-so you will just be looking like mugu,abi?
So,Iran began to Arm Other Countries -with Internal Army and insurrection,
For Example:
- Gaza has Hamas that are funded by your IRAN- Khomenei,
- Same with Lebanon - Hezbollah Army,
- Yemen War is Funded through -Houthi till date,
Sudan in Africa and
your Country Nigeria - by Elzazaki - movement - which Buhari decimated him.
•Question for you,
- Mr Man- Is that the kind of a Country that should Armed with Nuclear Weapon , that Wants Other Countries Out of Existence?,
- for your own Destruction and Destruction of other Middle East Countries - including Saudi Arabia?
•Why have your Country- (Iran ) been throwing Drones and Missiles on other Middle East Countries - since the War started- a question ⁉️ for you Mr Man.
Maybe you want their Visa, please go and collect it,is Free and move there to defend the Country in the Middle East.
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by Baddest0007: 9:07am On Mar 16
God1000:
This man has suddenly turned to cry cry baby


He often brags about america having the greatest military on earth and that USA doesn't need NATO
When he was trying to grab Greenland does he not know how insulting that was to Europeans ? Now he needs them abi ?
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by BeeNG3: 9:08am On Mar 16
xmasgift:
In life, you get what you want through strategic negotiations, not threats. Once you start threatening people, they become emboldened and dare you to do your worst. Then, you've lost your power.
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by Baddest0007: 9:09am On Mar 16
God1000:
He has forgotten how he imposed tariffs on these same countries he's now calling for help

He believes he can rule the world by endless threats towards other countries. Fortunately the great majority of the European countries won't be fooled this time
That's you need real politicians in power who understand what is at stake all the time
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by kedeojo(m): 9:13am On Mar 16
Walai:
I don't understand how comprehension became a problem in this country. The man is literally saying, you benefit from this Hormuz straight for your trades, come let's open it up. I don't see anything wrong with it. They are all waiting for America to do the work of opening up the strait but this time Trump is saying I can't do all these things for you alone.
Do the other NATO members countries ask him to start the war. he underestimated Iran and thinking they are Venezuela he bullied their president to submission. America is just overhyped cos some countries now have a lot of different weapon to fight too. The buffalo who called himself a Christian but yet discriminating against black. look at what he tried to do in south Africa. he couldn't achieved it cos the south Africa president didn't allow him to bully him. Trump is just disguising by using terrorism to try and control Iran economy which will never happen. America will continue to feel it
Re: Trump Warns NATO Faces Bad Future If Allies Fail To Help Open Up Hormuz Strait by Flexyup: 9:13am On Mar 16
God1000:
From “unconditional surrender” to “please help us open the Strait of Hormuz”
Trump is only trying to apply some form of technicality here. It is not even a full blown war here. Afterall, he is not the only one been affected by the set back on the strait of hormuz.
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