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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by anna081: 9:29am On Mar 16
bassdow:
at least 4pcs of 400w or 3pcs of 500w (halfCut) mono solar panels BUT still, to be on safe side, especially since you using a hybrid inverter, would suggest you show us a picture of the sticker on the inverter's body to avoid assumptions.
This

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by AyobamiOluwole: 9:48am On Mar 16
CuteMaro:
I can say we have a kind of lazy culture in Nigeria. In most advanced countries like the US for instance, some basic mechanic, plumbing, electrical and carpentry jobs are done DIY.
Not true.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:07am On Mar 16
anna081:
This
Good thing I requested for this. Now the max solar panels is just 2pcs of 450w. To be able to use more solar panels, you would have to use an external charge controller.

Mind you, you failed to inform us capacity of your batteries. Really tiring when important basic informations are left out.

Let's assume they're 200Ah each hence 24v 200Ah. Either way, just 2pcs of 450w solar panels would struggle to reCharge them reliably; especially since most times, they get used at same time. More like you fetching water to fill a drum but as you pouring the water, someone else is taking out of same drum. You need fetvh faster else it never fills up
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gshems: 10:08am On Mar 16
He should just get 4 450w cos of rainy days
bassdow:
at least 4pcs of 400w or 3pcs of 500w (halfCut) mono solar panels BUT still, to be on safe side, especially since you using a hybrid inverter, would suggest you show us a picture of the sticker on the inverter's body to avoid assumptions.
buy a 60a powmr.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:11am On Mar 16
Gshems:
He should just get 4 450w cos of rainy days
yea that's what I initially said BUT glad I requested for the inverter's spec which showed that would not be possible except with external charge controllers.

Alternatively, He/She might have to upgrade to Lithium based batteries BUT even at that, it would be a real struggle; especially with that brand of inverter. in fact even Lithium based battery wouldn't help here. Just buy a new / USEd 60amps charge controller and be done with it.

It's COSTly to be CHEAP most times
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 10:11am On Mar 16
Gshems:
He should just get 4 450w cos of rainy days buy a 60a powmr.
yea. seems you just saw the update.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by anna081: 11:17am On Mar 16
Thank you boss
Will get used cause of cost the batteries are 220

bassdow:
yea that's what I initially said BUT glad I requested for the inverter's spec which showed that would not be possible except with external charge controllers.

Alternatively, He/She might have to upgrade to Lithium based batteries BUT even at that, it would be a real struggle; especially with that brand of inverter. in fact even Lithium based battery wouldn't help here. Just buy a new / USEd 60amps charge controller and be done with it.



It's COSTly to be CHEAP most times
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 7:07pm On Mar 16
CuteMaro:
I don't think it's just about cost. There are DIY enthusiasts too, I see nothing wrong with it.

I can say we have a kind of lazy culture in Nigeria. In most advanced countries like the US for instance, some basic mechanic, plumbing, electrical and carpentry jobs are done DIY. A man is supposed to be handy so there is nothing wrong in showing interest or suggesting someone try DIY.

It's fun as long as you know your limits and don't mess with high voltage grin
We are not lazy, the problem is that our labour is cheap. If it costs you an arm and a leg to get an artisan to come and change an electric socket in your house (as it will cost them in the US or UK), you will learn to fix many things yourself.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by CuteMaro(m): 7:10pm On Mar 16
adrusa:
We are not lazy, the problem is that our labour is cheap. If it costs you an arm and a leg to get an artisan to come and change an electric socket in your house (as it will cost them in the US or UK), you will learn to fix many things yourself.
True. I think I agree with you.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by anna081: 8:06pm On Mar 16
Thinking of getting 2pcs of 450w panels for now add more panels and charger controller later but can 2 panels charge the batteries?
my main goal is the freezer. Can the panel charge it fully

bassdow:
Good thing I requested for this. Now the max solar panels is just 2pcs of 450w. To be able to use more solar panels, you would have to use an external charge controller.

Mind you, you failed to inform us capacity of your batteries. Really tiring when important basic informations are left out.

Let's assume they're 200Ah each hence 24v 200Ah. Either way, just 2pcs of 450w solar panels would struggle to reCharge them reliably; especially since most times, they get used at same time. More like you fetching water to fill a drum but as you pouring the water, someone else is taking out of same drum. You need fetvh faster else it never fills up

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Buchika: 8:17pm On Mar 16
Gurus in the house please what basic solar setup will suffice for these appliances.
Nepa is showing us shege promax these days.

1 120w thermocool inverter chest freezer. ( Only day time)

1 330w thermocool 6kg washing machine (only day time)

1 60w television ( 5pm to 11pm)

8 5w led bulbs

3 qasa AC DC fan ( all night)

Budget is below 1m
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gshems: 8:32pm On Mar 16
On sunny days, it might but cloudy days are the problem
anna081:
Thinking of getting 2pcs of 450w panels for now add more panels and charger controller later but can 2 panels charge the batteries?
my main goal is the freezer. Can the panel charge it fully
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gshems: 8:33pm On Mar 16
Go for haisic 4kw or deriy and any 1.5kva hybrid inverter, then 2 550w panels
Buchika:
Gurus in the house please what basic solar setup will suffice for these appliances.
Nepa is showing us shege promax these days.

1 120w thermocool inverter chest freezer. ( Only day time)

1 330w thermocool 6kg washing machine (only day time)

1 60w television ( 5pm to 11pm)

8 5w led bulbs

3 qasa AC DC fan ( all night)

Budget is below 1m
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:33pm On Mar 16
anna081:
Thinking of getting 2pcs of 450w panels for now add more panels and charger controller later but can 2 panels charge the batteries?
my main goal is the freezer. Can the panel charge it fully
2pcs of 450w solar panels wouldn't be RELIABLY enough. Earlier we suggested minimum of 4pcs of 450w or 2pcs of 500w solar panels and that's even before you notified us a freezer is in the picture.

Unfortunately, your inverter's capacity can't handle that much EXCEPT you add an external charge controller. It's not about changing battery; it's about your inverter's limits.

Should you go ahead and use just 2pcs of 450w, still would work BUT expect surprises and shortcomings especially on days with average to bad weather
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by anna081: 8:45pm On Mar 16
Thanks i understand now that the panels with the inbuilt stuff won't be effective during bad weather will get the 2 panels this week and will get the rest next month with the mmp.
Thanks once again
bassdow:
2pcs of 450w solar panels wouldn't be RELIABLY enough. Earlier we suggested minimum of 4pcs of 450w or 2pcs of 500w solar panels and that's even before you notified us a freezer is in the picture.

Unfortunately, your inverter's capacity can't handle that much EXCEPT you add an external charge controller. It's not about changing battery; it's about your inverter's limits.

Should you go ahead and use just 2pcs of 450w, still would work BUT expect surprises and shortcomings especially on days with average to bad weather
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by anna081: 8:48pm On Mar 16
I just wanted to be sure if i get the 2 panels now that it will charge the inverter the 2 panels is just temporary tho will expand soonest

Gshems:
On sunny days, it might but cloudy days are the problem
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:49pm On Mar 16
Buchika:
Gurus in the house please what basic solar setup will suffice for these appliances.
Nepa is showing us shege promax these days.

1 120w thermocool inverter chest freezer. ( Only day time)

1 330w thermocool 6kg washing machine (only day time)

1 60w television ( 5pm to 11pm)

8 5w led bulbs

3 qasa AC DC fan ( all night)

Budget is below 1m
your load on 12v system wouldn't give your battery long life Ooo. Try see if you fit add money to push am go 24v

probably na to combine NEW and used items you go do
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gshems: 8:54pm On Mar 16
bassdow:
your load on 12v system wouldn't give your battery long life Ooo. Try see if you fit add money to push am go 24v

probably na to combine NEW and used items you go do
all the loads no pass 300w continuous. He wont use them at the same time. My freezer is not inverter but it consumes 85w
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by osayuwamwen(m): 8:58pm On Mar 16
I use a little bit more than this load on a 12v system tabular battery for that matter for 3years b4 I upgraded if na watin e money reach make e go for it sofar he get quality battery and enough panel to power those load and still charge yr battery
bassdow:
your load on 12v system wouldn't give your battery long life Ooo. Try see if you fit add money to push am go 24v

probably na to combine NEW and used items you go do
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by UniversalDove: 11:29pm On Mar 16
What does this mean
Kaczynski:
RTFM!!!!!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by UniversalDove: 11:30pm On Mar 16
it rained yesterday and the thunder was.
Before I left my house, I thought I switched off my inverter because I'm confused up till now.

When I got back home and tried to switch on my 1kva inverter, it didn't power again.
But I noticed the inverter was warm as if it was working all these while.

Please what's the solution
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by favouredbymercy: 1:42am On Mar 17
UniversalDove:
it rained yesterday and the thunder was.
Before I left my house, I thought I switched off my inverter because I'm confused up till now.

When I got back home and tried to switch on my 1kva inverter, it didn't power again.
But I noticed the inverter was warm as if it was working all these while.

Please what's the solution
You self
E don spoil na. Na to repair or replace
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trueigbo: 2:48am On Mar 17
I have 8 solar panels of 200w charging my 2 tubular batteries but its discharges fast even after it’s full. I bought those batteries new in October last year.
My installer is asking me to go for 5kw lithium battery .

Please will there be any change if I buy the lithium battery
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gshems: 6:11am On Mar 17
Trueigbo:
I have 8 solar panels of 200w charging my 2 tubular batteries but its discharges fast even after it’s full. I bought those batteries new in October last year.
My installer is asking me to go for 5kw lithium battery .

Please will there be any change if I buy the lithium battery
your panels is too small to charge 2 tubular batteries full. Also you have been using the battery till it dies. Tubular batteries don't like full discharge. What kind of inverter do you use? If money dey to buy lithium please do but that won't solve the problem you are having. Let us know all the components of your system then we can advise you on which way to go
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Buchika: 7:19am On Mar 17
bassdow:
your load on 12v system wouldn't give your battery long life Ooo. Try see if you fit add money to push am go 24v

probably na to combine NEW and used items you go do
thanks for the reply, can you give more details about the preferred 24v, size of inverter, size of panels and batteries
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Buchika: 7:25am On Mar 17
Gshems:
Go for haisic 4kw or deriy and any 1.5kva hybrid inverter, then 2 550w panels
I will look into this, thanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Oshomo12(m): 7:31am On Mar 17
CuteMaro:
I don't think it's just about cost. There are DIY enthusiasts too, I see nothing wrong with it.

I can say we have a kind of lazy culture in Nigeria. In most advanced countries like the US for instance, some basic mechanic, plumbing, electrical and carpentry jobs are done DIY. A man is supposed to be handy so there is nothing wrong in showing interest or suggesting someone try DIY.

It's fun as long as you know your limits and don't mess with high voltage grin
DIY enthusiasts go the extra mile to understand what they’re getting into, even to the point of learning the rudiments.
Lazy ones, however, only think about cost—they don’t bother to read or consider safety at all.
Once you become a true DIY enthusiast, you’ll definitely know your limits.

Note; na high voltage DC regime we dey now, and my people are lazy around it, hmm, I pray we don't learn the hard way with HV.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 8:55am On Mar 17
Trueigbo:
I have 8 solar panels of 200w charging my 2 tubular batteries but its discharges fast even after it’s full. I bought those batteries new in October last year.
My installer is asking me to go for 5kw lithium battery .

Please will there be any change if I buy the lithium battery
why did the person who set up your system go for 8pcs of 200w solar panels ?

You also didn't state the model or type of inverter you using as not all inverters are able to shutDown on low battery hence you might have ended up using the battery till it's too low that it died.

Another is, you probably bought fake batteries hence reason it's weakk within a Year. Even if you buy Lithium based batteries, should you repeat same mistake, expect similar result.

It's obvious even your charge controller is PWM. WhoEver setUp that system for you PROBABLY cashed out
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