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Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Gotocourt: 2:57pm On Mar 16
FreeStuffsNG:
Macron has just been yarning upandan.

He is really coping badly with the crises yet his country is not directly involved in the war. Smh.

Hezbollah is the de facto power in Lebanon. It is mischievious of him to suggest that Lebanon will recognize Isreal in Occupied Palestine against Hezbollah with the popular support.
Sharp summary 📌💯
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by WiseBizInvestor(f): 3:01pm On Mar 16
Hmmmmmmmmmmm🤔 That's another angle to this whole bruhaha... But please, when would the entire world experience absolute PEACE at every corner of the globe? WHEN?? ?
FreeStuffsNG:
Macron has just been yarning upandan.

He is really coping badly with the crises yet his country is not directly involved in the war. Smh.

Hezbollah is the de facto power in Lebanon. It is mischievious of him to suggest that Lebanon will recognize Isreal in Occupied Palestine against Hezbollah with the popular support.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 3:01pm On Mar 16
givedemwotowoto:
Actually many blacks came back to Africa after slavery, that’s why Sierra Leone and Liberia exist as countries today

So you see? Some stayed back and fought to be part of the West, while some came back to Africa and formed countries in the land of their ancestors.

Anything wrong with that?
Most didn't come back to their ancestral lands

They were repatriated

Liberian was for freedom American slaves
Sierra Leone for freedom British slaves

Two different scenarios
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by platymus: 3:03pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Hopefully The bot won't ban this.

Israel is different from the state of Israel
Iseeal ceased to exist after the reign of king Solomon according to the Bible.
After the Death of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jerusalem was laid desolate as he prophesied.

2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area

Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks,

This is not rocket science, you can't keep on taking what belongs to me andexpect me to accept it in silence.
Can you prove your statement scripturally and I will prove to you that the current Israel is not a mere political state. Where is the approved area you talked about?
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by JuanDeDios: 3:04pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Hopefully The bot won't ban this.

Israel is different from the state of Israel
Iseeal ceased to exist after the reign of king Solomon according to the Bible.
After the Death of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jerusalem was laid desolate as he prophesied.

2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area

Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks,

This is not rocket science, you can't keep on taking what belongs to me andexpect me to accept it in silence.
By "original owners", you mean Palestinian Arabs?
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by loveth360(f): 3:07pm On Mar 16
Ceased to exist asin they are all dead and disappeared from earth?



I really want to learn
Proudlyngwa:
Hopefully The bot won't ban this.

Israel is different from the state of Israel
Iseeal ceased to exist after the reign of king Solomon according to the Bible.
After the Death of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jerusalem was laid desolate as he prophesied.

2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area

Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks,

This is not rocket science, you can't keep on taking what belongs to me andexpect me to accept it in silence.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by loveth360(f): 3:10pm On Mar 16
89green:
Israel should leave Lebanon in return for peace,

Is there even anything like Israel?? Was it not a country that was created to oppress others? Their cup go soon full grin
Is there Anything like Nigeria?

Was Nigeria not just created yet you people fought about it and keep killing because of Nigeria.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by loveth360(f): 3:11pm On Mar 16
zinaunreal:
Israel should recognize the state of Palestine and return its land for the sake of peace
What of your Nigeria recognizing Biafra too for peace?
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Lanre1st(m): 3:12pm On Mar 16
givedemwotowoto:
Lebanon was a majority Christian country in the 70s before the civil war and high immigration rates from Palestinians and other factors altered the religious dynamics

Now that their proxy funding partner Iran is being decimated, they need to make peace with Israel and move on.
What is this one saying? Are you reading from Sunday school book or a reliable source. Google is cheap, stop exposing your ignorance
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Kukutente23: 3:12pm On Mar 16
zinaunreal:
Israel should recognize the state of Palestine and return its land for the sake of peace
Dey play
The land belongs to Israel
The Palestinians are tenants
There's nowhere that the tenants chase away the landlord
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 3:12pm On Mar 16
Hangulsaram:
Please can you reconcile the the bolded and the colored statement, after Solomon Isteal stopped existing and Jerusalem destroyed after christ, really?
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings%2012%3A19-21&version=KJV

1st kings 12:19-21

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2013%3A34&version=NIV

Luke 13.34-35
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org
Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE)
Have the Jews said blessed is he who comes in the name of the lord.

platymus:
Can you prove your statement scripturally and I will prove to you that the current Israel is not a mere political state. Where is the approved area you talked about?
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 3:15pm On Mar 16
loveth360:
Ceased to exist asin they are all dead and disappeared from earth?



I really want to learn
Unified Israel ceased to exist as a country after the death of Solomon

Google it
We had the kingdom of southern Israel and Judea , southern Israel has morphed into other countries, Judea being the Jews want to claim all original territory
Read my posts on this thread
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by givedemwotowoto: 3:16pm On Mar 16
Lanre1st:
What is this one saying? Are you reading from Sunday school book or a reliable source. Google is cheap, stop exposing your ignorance
Ignorance is when you claim someone is wrong but you don’t know the correct answer and haven’t shown any answer yourself. Put your emotions in check and argue like someone who is educated
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by givedemwotowoto: 3:17pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Most didn't come back to their ancestral lands

They were repatriated

Liberian was for freedom American slaves
Sierra Leone for freedom British slaves

Two different scenarios
That’s a pointless distinction. Whether they returned voluntarily or were repatriated, it is still diaspora return to the land of their ancestors. The mode of return doesn’t change that fact.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by loveth360(f): 3:19pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Unified Israel ceased to exist as a country after the death of Solomon

Google it
We had the kingdom of southern Israel and Judea , southern Israel has morphed into other countries, Judea being the Jews want to claim all original territory
Read my posts on this thread
So what is exactly is your point?


That Israel disappeared from earth?


And if you are always fighting for one Nigeria created by Britain, why are you against current created Israel?(as you claims)
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 3:29pm On Mar 16
loveth360:
So what is exactly is your point?


That Israel disappeared from earth?


And if you are always fighting for one Nigeria created by Britain, why are you against current created Israel?(as you claims)
Israel as a country ceased to exist

It is currently different from state of Israel
Two different things

We're any group of body assimilated from somewhere else to make up Nigeria.
Was anybody displaced to make up Nigeria.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 3:29pm On Mar 16
givedemwotowoto:
That’s a pointless distinction. Whether they returned voluntarily or were repatriated, it is still diaspora return to the land of their ancestors. The mode of return doesn’t change that fact.
Except
Liberia and Sierra Leone was never the land of their ancestors
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by hotseat: 3:30pm On Mar 16
Hezbollah would never accept these conditions for peace.

Since they wouldn't, innocent Lebanese would continue to suffer.

Even the Lebanese government appears to be too weak to disarm the terrorists group called Hezbollah.

They say they would never recognize the State of Israel and Lebanon has continued to suffer due to their recalcitrance.

Let's hope that France would be able to talk some sense into them this time around.




@hotseat
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by givedemwotowoto: 3:34pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Except
Liberia and Sierra Leone was never the land of their ancestors
West Africa was the land where their ancestors lived, just like Palestine in the Middle East was the land where their ancestors lived.

Now the question for you is, how did they get the land they lived on when they started moving to the Middle East?
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by abuhlawal(m): 3:35pm On Mar 16
givedemwotowoto:
Lebanon was a majority Christian country in the 70s before the civil war and high immigration rates from Palestinians and other factors altered the religious dynamics

Now that their proxy funding partner Iran is being decimated, they need to make peace with Israel and move on.
The Israelites are not Christians, they hate Christianity like they hate Islam. Read your Bible very well, unless you are a Jew.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by givedemwotowoto: 3:36pm On Mar 16
abuhlawal:
The Israelites are not Christians, they hate Christianity like they hate Islam. Read your Bible very well, unless you are a Jew.
Who said the Israelis were Christians? You just made that up and started arguing with yourself?
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by 29Ade07: 3:39pm On Mar 16
According to your own subjective definition. However, according to the definition of God who had always had an eternal relationship with them since the time of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob they are still the same Israel. The event of General Titus in A.D 70 and their reinstatement were all prophesied. What the admin did were all a product of divine providence. The same Israel will soon receive the full attention of God during the reign of anti-Christ during 7 years tribulation and their event afterward.
Proudlyngwa:
Hopefully The bot won't ban this.

Israel is different from the state of Israel
Iseeal ceased to exist after the reign of king Solomon according to the Bible.
After the Death of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jerusalem was laid desolate as he prophesied.

2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area

Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks,

This is not rocket science, you can't keep on taking what belongs to me andexpect me to accept it in silence.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by 89green: 3:39pm On Mar 16
loveth360:
Is there Anything like Nigeria?

Was Nigeria not just created yet you people fought about it and keep killing because of Nigeria.
Was Nigeria created to oppress and cause irreparable violence to its neighbours, was it created to cause mass killings on its neighbours, say something else
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 3:41pm On Mar 16
givedemwotowoto:
West Africa was the land where their ancestors lived, just like Palestine in the Middle East was the land where their ancestors lived.

Now the question for you is, how did they get the land they lived on when they started moving to the Middle East?
You could equally say the world was were their ancestors came from
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by UrVillageChief: 3:45pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Hopefully The bot won't ban this..

2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area

Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks,
Let me address your silly points one after the other.
First one,
"2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a [b]fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area"[/b]
What made you describe the region as a fantasy?
You mean it's not where the ancient one was or what? If that's what you meant, how then were the places still named, Jerusalem, Hebron, Jericho etc, I mean why do they still retain their Hebrew spellings and pronunciations or is Jerusalem (yerusalem) an Arabic word? What's the Arabic words and meanings for Bethlehem and Bethesda?
Maybe you should go look up what "fantasy" means again in your dictionary.

Second,
"Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks"

Why don't you explain to us how those original approved areas were gained and lost as well as those whose actions led to the gains and losses?
Do I need to remind you that the whole of Jerusalem was not even originally meant to be in Israel until the Arabs fought back and it was seized from them forever?
Maybe the Arabs should have left that small chunk of land for the Jews too to exist, maybe, just maybe if they had been tolerant and didn't fight those silly wars, the region would have been one of the most peaceful and prosperous regions there's huh
There are well over 150 countries that are officially Christian, over 50 are Islamic while around 3-8 are Hindu and Buddhist, why can't the Arab tolerate this one and only Jewish country there is?
I'm not a Christian and neither am I a Jew but you guys need to learn tolerance and love. It's not as if they (Israelis) are lying about having ancestral links to the land. If their ancestral link claims were false, it would have been understandable.
The land originally belonged to the Israelite, canaanites and the philistines, it was never an Arab land. So why exactly are you making it look as if they were gifted a land they had zero ancestry links to in 1945?
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 3:45pm On Mar 16
29Ade07:
According to your own subjective definition. However, according to the definition of God who had always had an eternal relationship with them since the time of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob they are still the same Israel. The event of General Titus in A.D 70 and their reinstatement were all prophesied. What the admin did were all a product of divine providence. The same Israel will soon receive the full attention of God during the reign of anti-Christ during 7 years tribulation and their event afterward.
Their is only one condition for the indemnification of Jerusalem

The proclamation of Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord

Have the Jews proclaimed that.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Ibehchizzy: 3:46pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Hopefully The bot won't ban this.

Israel is different from the state of Israel
Iseeal ceased to exist after the reign of king Solomon according to the Bible.
After the Death of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jerusalem was laid desolate as he prophesied.

2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area

Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks,

This is not rocket science, you can't keep on taking what belongs to me andexpect me to accept it in silence.
what is your point exactly.
Seems to me it’s the states surrounding Isreal that won’t be at peace for a very long time
Suffering more casualties etc
Coz whether you like it or not
Isreal has come to far to be ceded away to a supposed original occupiers of the land
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by mobi5592: 3:48pm On Mar 16
shoodboi2:
Israel should return Lebanese land before Lebanon recognizes it.
The irony is that a major part of Lebanon belongs to Israel and they released it for peace to reign. Israel has been to generous with its neighbours and as you can very well tell, enough is enough. If anybody fvcks around, they gonna find out
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 3:48pm On Mar 16
UrVillageChief:
Let me address your silly points one after the other.
First one,
"2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area"
What made you describe the region as a fantasy?
You mean it's not where the ancient one was or what? If that's what you meant, how then were the places still named, Jerusalem, Hebron, Jericho etc, I mean why do they still retain their Hebrew spellings and pronunciation or is Jerusalem (yerusalem) an Arabic word?
Maybe you should go look up for "fantasy" means again in your dictionary.

Second,
"Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks"

Why don't you explain to us how those original approved areas were gained and lost as well as those whose actions led to the gain and loss?
Do I need to remind you that the whole of Jerusalem was not even originally meant to be in Israel until the Arabs fought back and it was seized forever?
Maybe the Arabs should have left that small chunk of land for the Jews too to exist, maybe, just maybe if they had been tolerant and didn't fight them, the region would have been one of the most peaceful and prosperous regions there's huh
There are well over 150 countries that are officially Christian, over 50 are Muslim while around 3-8 are Hindu and Buddhist, why can't the Arab tolerate this one and only Jewish country there is?
I'm not a country and neither am I a Jew but you guess need to learn tolerance and love. It's not as if they (Israelis) are lying about having ancestral links to the land. If their ancestry link claims were false, it would have been understandable.
The land originally belonged to the Israelite, canaanites and the philistines, it was never an Arab land. So why exactly are you making it look as if they were gifted a land they had zero ancestry links to in 1945?
Thank God , you said Originally belonged to the Israelites, Canaanites and Philippines.

So why are only the Jews fighting for it.

Where are the Israelites, Canaanites and Philippines.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by givedemwotowoto: 3:50pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
You could equally say the world was were their ancestors came from
I’ll take this as a concession. When people lose an argument, they start deflecting. Your comment doesn’t address the original point.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by UrVillageChief: 3:54pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Thank God , you said Originally belonged to the Israelites, Canaanites and Philippines.

So why are only the Jews fighting for it.

Where are the Israelites, Canaanites and Philippines.
Now imagine the descendants of the Canaanites and the philistines start lying claims to the land today, would it be fair for these Israelis to start describing such claims as a mere "fantasy"?
Since history tells us that they are also native to the land, it will be fair to share the land among them without one party chasing the other away. The Arabs aren't even native to the land at all but they were the ones fighting off one of the original owners (Israelis) in 1945😂😂
Isn't this just common sense?
Also, since you agree with me that it belonged to the Israelites, canaanites and the philistines, why then did you describe their (Israelis) claims as "fantasy" or you prolly don't know what the term means? grin
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by babayinka77(m): 3:54pm On Mar 16
SeverusSnape:
If they like they should not recognise. Israel is there to stay, for their own good, They should learn to live in peace with Israel, If not, They will always get their asses whooped.
grin grin grin
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