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Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Slamers72virgin: 3:58pm On Mar 16
FreeStuffsNG:
Macron has just been yarning upandan.

He is really coping badly with the crises yet his country is not directly involved in the war. Smh.

Hezbollah is the de facto power in Lebanon. It is mischievious of him to suggest that Lebanon will recognize Isreal in Occupied Palestine against Hezbollah with the popular support.
Then 72 virgins await anyone who refuses to heed to this honest advice. We all know you make this kind of comment because you are not affected by the problems this people are facing in the Middle East. Keep on pushing them to their doom’s from your remote village in the southwest because you share the same religion like them.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Bwanasaraw: 4:18pm On Mar 16
SeverusSnape:
If they like they should not recognise. Israel is there to stay, for their own good, They should learn to live in peace with Israel, If not, They will always get their asses whooped.
You are right. The reason why Egypt is having peace & development for a very long time now is because of their recognition of the State of Israel.

Before then it was fight and destruction every year.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by loveth360(f): 4:21pm On Mar 16
89green:
Was Nigeria created to oppress and cause irreparable violence to its neighbours, was it created to cause mass killings on its neighbours, say something else
Nigeria have done worst.


Your Nigeria starved 3 million Biafra kids to death.



Your Nigeria since 7 about 8 years now have killed thousands of innocent Igbos.




So what is the difference?
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by loveth360(f): 4:25pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Israel as a country ceased to exist

It is currently different from state of Israel
Two different things

We're any group of body assimilated from somewhere else to make up Nigeria.
Was anybody displaced to make up Nigeria.
Is your Nigeria not killing people millions to force people to be part of Nigeria.



What is the difference between displacing people and killing people to force them together on unholy Union?
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by 89green: 4:29pm On Mar 16
loveth360:
Nigeria have done worst.


Your Nigeria starved 3 million Biafra kids to death.



Your Nigeria since 7 about 8 years now have killed thousands of innocent Igbos.




So what is the difference?
Biafra is part of Nigeria init and not a neighbouring country
Israel has shed blood in Syria, Yemen, Iran, Lebanon, Palestine etc
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Thomaz31(m): 4:32pm On Mar 16
Macron is playing a high-stakes game here. By tying the disarming of Hezbollah to official state recognition, he is essentially asking the Lebanese government to choose between being a sovereign nation or remaining a proxy battlefield for Iran
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by mikeapollo: 4:34pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Hopefully The bot won't ban this.

Israel is different from the state of Israel
Israel ceased to exist after the reign of king Solomon according to the Bible.
After the Death of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jerusalem was laid desolate as he prophesied.

2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area

Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks,

This is not rocket science, you can't keep on taking what belongs to me andexpect me to accept it in silence.
You typed out of ignorance!
Who told you and when did Israel cease to exit? Did the land disappear? Did Jerusalem, Shiloh, Judea, Samaria, Jordan river, Mount Horeb, Mount Sinai etc. disappear from the face of the earth?
What you typed clearly shows that those who are occupying Israel (called Palestinians) are not the indigenous owners of the land.

The different nations in the region are clearly documented in history, culture and language:
The ancient land of Egypt became/is the State of Egypt
The ancient land of Syria became/is the State of Syria
The ancient land of Jordan became/is the State of Jordan
The ancient land of Lebanon became/is the State of Lebanon.

........but when it gets to Israel, then you hear people making senseless comments that the ancient land of Israel is not the same as State of Israel today.
Pure hatred, jealous against Israel and Jews because of their special place and heritage in history and the historical landmarks in their country.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by loveth360(f): 4:36pm On Mar 16
89green:
Biafra is part of Nigeria init and not a neighbouring country
Israel has shed blood in Syria, Yemen, Iran, Lebanon, Palestine etc
Okay blood of neighbors is more precious than blood of supposed country people?



In real sense, which one should be more worrisome, killing of supposed country people or killing neighbors who have shown to be enemies?
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by fineboynl(m): 4:41pm On Mar 16
Israel already seized that part of Lebanon.

Us will seized kharg island too.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by safarifarms(m): 4:42pm On Mar 16
Even if Israel goes back to it's originally designated area, there still won't be peace. The people involved here believe they have a divine mission from their God to wipe out Israel and snuff out the entire Israeli population. Granting the original land sharing formula won't remove or erase their wise to exterminate Israel. Go and read the history of that original sharing of the land. Israel accepted but the other party as pushed by Arab nations had refused to accept it. It's the continuous fight that has made Israel to keep taking from their share of their land as spoils of war (probably to punish them for making them waste resources in a war). That place will never know peace. But if Israel/US can disarm Iran or remove their current toxic leadership, maybe there could be small relative peace because the other party won't have the financial & military support to keep fighting. But then, they may even get more oppressed.
Proudlyngwa:
Hopefully The bot won't ban this.

Israel is different from the state of Israel
Iseeal ceased to exist after the reign of king Solomon according to the Bible.
After the Death of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jerusalem was laid desolate as he prophesied.

2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area

Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks,

This is not rocket science, you can't keep on taking what belongs to me andexpect me to accept it in silence.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by fineboynl(m):
FreeStuffsNG:
Macron has just been yarning upandan.

He is really coping badly with the crises yet his country is not directly involved in the war. Smh.

Hezbollah is the de facto power in Lebanon. It is mischievious of him to suggest that Lebanon will recognize Isreal in Occupied Palestine against Hezbollah with the popular support.
then why are you paying beging and disturbing France for peace. Go and fight to get your peace. Israel would soon seized the whole of Lebanon very soon.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by ogascomax: 5:23pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Hopefully The bot won't ban this.

Israel is different from the state of Israel
Iseeal ceased to exist after the reign of king Solomon according to the Bible.
After the Death of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jerusalem was laid desolate as he prophesied.

2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area

Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks,

This is not rocket science, you can't keep on taking what belongs to me andexpect me to accept it in silence.
Some times I wonder the kind of Christians you guys are. Even God said that His covenant with Israel is an everlasting covenant so I wonder how you guys come up with this your trash. What did God said to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? What was God promise to Israel. Even scripture prophesied that they will spread abroad and they will come back from all nations. Do you know how many times Israel has been made desolate. They were even in captivity for 400 years in Egypt. They have been taken to different nations. Is like you are saying the Persian are not the Persian of old.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 5:48pm On Mar 16
givedemwotowoto:
I’ll take this as a concession. When people lose an argument, they start deflecting. Your comment doesn’t address the original point.
Yes Because West Africa is an Ancestral land


I concede defeat
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by mikeapollo: 5:49pm On Mar 16
ogascomax:
Some times I wonder the kind of Christians you guys are. Even God said that His covenant with Israel is an everlasting covenant so I wonder how you guys come up with this your trash. What did God said to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? What was God promise to Israel. Even scripture prophesied that they will spread abroad and they will come back from all nations. Do you know how many times Israel has been made desolate. They were even in captivity for 400 years in Egypt. They have been taken to different nations. Is like you are saying the Persian are not the Persian of old.
Don't mind the hallucinating gang. They only change the narrative to suit their parochial lies when it is about Israel
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 5:49pm On Mar 16
ogascomax:
Some times I wonder the kind of Christians you guys are. Even God said that His covenant with Israel is an everlasting covenant so I wonder how you guys come up with this your trash. What did God said to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? What was God promise to Israel. Even scripture prophesied that they will spread abroad and they will come back from all nations. Do you know how many times Israel has been made desolate. They were even in captivity for 400 years in Egypt. They have been taken to different nations. Is like you are saying the Persian are not the Persian of old.
Oga nothing concerns Israel with Christianity

Morover am not the one who gave the condition for their current desolation

Christ did.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by KingWarri: 5:54pm On Mar 16
Archworld:
When you do not read nor understand the bible you will think you are more Knowledgeable than those who do
Your Bible is a fairy tail....
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 5:54pm On Mar 16
safarifarms:
Even if Israel goes back to it's originally designated area, there still won't be peace. The people involved here believe they have a divine mission from their God to wipe out Israel and snuff out the entire Israeli population. Granting the original land sharing formula won't remove or erase their wise to exterminate Israel. Go and read the history of that original sharing of the land. Israel accepted but the other party as pushed by Arab nations had refused to accept it. It's the continuous fight that has made Israel to keep taking from their share of their land as spoils of war (probably to punish them for making them waste resources in a war). That place will never know peace. But if Israel/US can disarm Iran or remove their current toxic leadership, maybe there could be small relative peace because the other party won't have the financial & military support to keep fighting. But then, they may even get more oppressed.
If Israel goes back to their original designated portion, we can talk

You just can't bring people because they said that is their ancestral land over 2000 years ago and displace the current occupants

Migration is constant
That your community in Nigeria
If they can prove it's zulus that lived there four thousand years ago
Will you be comfortable being displaced
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Psoul(m): 6:01pm On Mar 16
Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.

Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.

But thus saith the LORD, Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered: for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, and I will save thy children.

And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine?

Will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;

Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:

Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness:
by whose stripes... ye were healed.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 6:01pm On Mar 16
mikeapollo:
You typed out of ignorance!
Who told you and when did Israel cease to exit? Did the land disappear? Did Jerusalem, Shiloh, Judea, Samaria, Jordan river, Mount Horeb, Mount Sinai etc. disappear from the face of the earth?
What you typed clearly shows that those who are occupying Israel (called Palestinians) are not the indigenous owners of the land.

The different nations in the region are clearly documented in history, culture and language:
The ancient land of Egypt became/is the State of Egypt
The ancient land of Syria became/is the State of Syria
The ancient land of Jordan became/is the State of Jordan
The ancient land of Lebanon became/is the State of Lebanon.

........but when it gets to Israel, then you hear people making senseless comments that the ancient land of Israel is not the same as State of Israel today.
Pure hatred, jealous against Israel and Jews because of their special place and heritage in history and the historical landmarks in their country.
All those territories did not cease to exist
Israel did

It divided into kingdom of Judea and kingdom of southern Israel

Southern Israel was morphed into neighbouring territories and Judea

Judea morphed into Palestine

What is so hard to understand

Israel as a country consisting the 13 tribes of Israel is no more, what exactly are you guys arguing about
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Arrowhead71: 6:12pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Hopefully The bot won't ban this.

Israel is different from the state of Israel
Iseeal ceased to exist after the reign of king Solomon according to the Bible.
After the Death of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jerusalem was laid desolate as he prophesied.

2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area

Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks,

This is not rocket science, you can't keep on taking what belongs to me andexpect me to accept it in silence.
Mr story teller from falaxy book from Mars...continue in your confusion
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Onewazobia(m): 6:15pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Hopefully The bot won't ban this.

Israel is different from the state of Israel
Iseeal ceased to exist after the reign of king Solomon according to the Bible.
After the Death of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jerusalem was laid desolate as he prophesied.

2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area

Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks,

This is not rocket science, you can't keep on taking what belongs to me andexpect me to accept it in silence.
You are guru in taqiyya, wow! But I thought this period should have hold you back from taqiyya.
Anyway baraka da Ramadan
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Arrowhead71: 6:17pm On Mar 16
89green:
Israel should leave Lebanon in return for peace,

Is there even anything like Israel?? Was it not a country that was created to oppress others? Their cup go soon full grin
Wetin your own country created to do .....suffer?....as in what it is right now
And there was Israel before Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries you have today
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Arrowhead71: 6:18pm On Mar 16
CaseSensitive:
Maybe if Israel abandon the idea of Greater Israel. Maybe if they stop encroaching on other people's land. Just maybe.
All were originally Israeli heritage...but stolen away
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by safarifarms(m): 6:46pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
If Israel goes back to their original designated portion, we can talk

You just can't bring people because they said that is their ancestral land over 2000 years ago and displace the current occupants

Migration is constant
That your community in Nigeria
If they can prove it's zulus that lived there four thousand years ago
Will you be comfortable being displaced
I'm not personally attached to my ancestral land. I don't mind taking a replacement place (if it is not a place that I particularly dislike). However,
I'm not in support of displacing the Palestinians. But if they'd accepted the initial partitioning of the land that was done aimed at peace, I'm not sure we'll be having these crisis today. Today most of them now say they should return to that original partitioning which Israel doesn't want to listen to. The sad thing is that they didn't reject it because they really felt it was too unfair, it was because their Arab friends said they shouldn't accept it and probably promised to fight and retrieve all for them which they tried and failed. The other Arab friends have relaxed and don't want to fight again, but one (Iran) has determined to use their last breath to ensure Israel doesn't exist and has kept sponsoring attacks upon attacks and that is where we are today. And Israel has decided that the only way to have relative calm is to eliminate the sponsors of the attacks which they are trying hard to see if they can achieve that. In the end it's endless bloodshed upon bloodshed.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Peacecore: 6:48pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
Hopefully The bot won't ban this.

Israel is different from the state of Israel
Iseeal ceased to exist after the reign of king Solomon according to the Bible.
After the Death of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jerusalem was laid desolate as he prophesied.

2000 years later a group of administrators felt they could try to create a fantasy called State of Israel, with intimidation and without consultation to the current occupyers of the land.
Since then peace has eluded that area

Until all parties are equally represented and State of Israel goes to its original approved area, there will forever be kickbacks,

This is not rocket science, you can't keep on taking what belongs to me andexpect me to accept it in silence.
That you displaced someone out of his ancestoral land doesn't mean he won't come back.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by CaseSensitive(m): 6:49pm On Mar 16
Arrowhead71:
All were originally Israeli heritage...but stolen away
Says who? Ben Gurion?
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Peacecore: 6:54pm On Mar 16
89green:
Israel should leave Lebanon in return for peace,

Is there even anything like Israel?? Was it not a country that was created to oppress others? Their cup go soon full grin
I don't know how you guys feel supporting terrorism sad smh
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by 89green: 7:08pm On Mar 16
Peacecore:
I don't know how you guys feel supporting terrorism sad smh
Tell me the terror event pls
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by Proudlyngwa(m): 7:15pm On Mar 16
safarifarms:
I'm not personally attached to my ancestral land. I don't mind taking a replacement place (if it is not a place that I particularly dislike). However,
I'm not in support of displacing the Palestinians. But if they'd accepted the initial partitioning of the land that was done aimed at peace, I'm not sure we'll be having these crisis today. Today most of them now say they should return to that original partitioning which Israel doesn't want to listen to. The sad thing is that they didn't reject it because they really felt it was too unfair, it was because their Arab friends said they shouldn't accept it and probably promised to fight and retrieve all for them which they tried and failed. The other Arab friends have relaxed and don't want to fight again, but one (Iran) has determined to use their last breath to ensure Israel doesn't exist and has kept sponsoring attacks upon attacks and that is where we are today. And Israel has decided that the only way to have relative calm is to eliminate the sponsors of the attacks which they are trying hard to see if they can achieve that. In the end it's endless bloodshed upon bloodshed.
You didn't answer my question, If where you are currently, you are displaced and relocated because someone said it is the home of the zulus , four thousand years ago.

Will you just accept it like that.

There is no such thing as Arab as Jews.
Arabic is more of a Language and similar culture.

Moreover Iranians are not Arabs.
Palestine welcomed Jews back.
But Zionism and expansionism are the issues.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by bizzibodi(m): 7:18pm On Mar 16
Proudlyngwa:
If Israel goes back to their original designated portion, we can talk

You just can't bring people because they said that is their ancestral land over 2000 years ago and displace the current occupants

Migration is constant
That your community in Nigeria
If they can prove it's zulus that lived there four thousand years ago
Will you be comfortable being displaced
But government displace people whose ancestors has been living on land for years saying it is government land.
Re: Macron: Lebanon Should Recognise Israel In Return For Peace by bizzibodi(m): 7:20pm On Mar 16
If Lebanon cannot keep the refugee(Hezbollah) in check,then Israel should occupy & govern Lebanon till they receive sense.
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