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Mitsurugi:
But the match continued. Even with CAF officials there at the stadium. Abi even if the ref no sabi couldn't they have advised him? Morocco too should have pressed there and then. They waived their rights when they took that penalty. If Morocco had scored and went on to win would there have been talk of Article 84 or kini kan?

You know in law, the courts can only uphold your prayers. I'm sure what Morocco prayed for was for the trophy to be awarded to them.

I would have preferred maybe a ban on the Senegalese coach and not to take the trophy..but what Senegal did is only a begining, knowing we Africans next tournament, everyone go dey walk out. So we really need to send a signal and can't allow that to happen. No team on earth can claim not to have been favoured ateast once before.

Princedapace:
There is no room for staging a walkout in football. So, make all teams dey stage a walk out na when referee mess up? Imagine what will happen.
Article 82 defines the violation
Article 82 is the starting point. It explains the situations in which a team can be considered to have committed a serious breach of CAF competition rules.

These include withdrawing from the competition, failing to show up for a match, refusing to play, or leaving the pitch before the end of the game without the referee’s permission.

In simple terms, the article protects one basic principle: a team must take part in the match fully and under official authority until the referee blows the final whistle. Once that principle is broken, CAF can treat the team’s conduct as a major violation of its rules.

That is where and how Senegal’s conduct in Rabat on January 18 could only be interpreted as constituting a grave violation of CAF’s rules of engagement.

Indeed, according to CAF’s latest ruling, the Appeal Board determined that Senegal’s behavior during the final fell within one of the situations listed under Article 82. That gave CAF the legal ground to move to the next step.

Article 84 sets the appropriate punishment
If Article 82 defines the breach, Article 84 explains the consequence. It says that any team found in violation of Articles 82 or 83 is considered to have lost the game by forfeit.
The rule also allows the team to be excluded from the competition and leaves room for additional sanctions if the organizing body deems such actions necessary.

The standard forfeit score is 3-0. But if the opposing team had already been leading by more than 3-0 before the match was stopped, that bigger score would remain. In this case, CAF applied the standard forfeit score.

This is why the legal logic of the decision is straightforward. Once the board decided Senegal’s actions matched the type of violation described in Article 82, the punishment under Article 84 followed directly.

There is no emotion in law. This is the problem with most Nigerians, always sentimental, no wonder they just cant elect a good leader. Always electing rubbish. Imagine electing Buhari.

Your argument here doesn't hold water.
At what point should that article be applied?
For instance,the same article you quoted also talked about 'walk over'.
If a team fails to show up in a match on time while the opponent is already there in the field with the officials waiting.
When it's time,even if the team later arrives at the venue a minute late,the referee will implement the law there and then by blowing his whistle to end the match.
And the other team would be awarded 3 goals and 3 points or a cup as the case maybe without kicking a ball.

But it will be an act of stupidity for the referee to allow the team who arrived far beyond the time to still play the ball and the ball ended successfully with the late arriving team winning the ball.
After like 2 months the organizers of the competition then come out to say that the rules says if a team arrives late for a match,it should be walked over.
That the team that played the match and won has forfeited their winning to their opponent.
Walked over?
And you allowed them play?
That is like putting the cart before the horse.

The right way to have implemented the rules you quoted should have been for the referee to blow the final whistle at the point the Senegalese staged the walk out and declared Morocco winner.
In that way,all these furore wouldn't have been there.
But for Mu.mu Mosepe and Referee to have allowed them to come back to the field and the match proceeded to 120 mins stipulated time and the Referee blow his final whistle and the cup given to the Senegalese team as the winner means that you can no longer classified the match as an abandoned match.Therefore,the rule you quoted doesn't applied in that instance.
It can only apply when the 'walk out' lead to an abandonment of the match.
Is that what is too difficult for you and Mosepe to understand?

Topman7:
Surely it's better to be a 2 year old freeman than a 40 year old slave who feels inferior to white people?

Little do you know that even 2 year old princes are still out under slaves.

Little do you know!!!

But you have to talk, to look smart.

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frankson1:
You ended with not making any sense

It’s not my fault that you can’t comprehend.

stuffs2002:
Why are you generalising what is happening in your family.

Why are you feeling like it was targeted at thee?

😃😃😃

callthefred:
You know in law, the courts can only uphold your prayers. I'm sure what Morocco prayed for was for the trophy to be awarded to them.

I would have preferred maybe a ban on the Senegalese coach and not to take the trophy..but what Senegal did is only a begining, knowing we Africans next tournament, everyone go dey walk out. So we really need to send a signal and can't allow that to happen. No team on earth can claim not to have been favoured ateast once before.

Hope you know a Referee has full authority to declare MATCH ABANDONED & blow the Final Whistle & the game later awarded against the team that walked out.

That's enough signal & deterrent.

Great100000:
Source: https://guardian.ng/sport/football/senegal-coach-takes-afcon-trophy-to-military-base/

Let CAF go and collect it there...

McLizbae:
Na mumu go actually make Senegal release that trophy. CAF must fabricate another trophy for Morocco, since they wish to have two winners of the tournament.

The verdict from that case should be a sanction of the players that attempted the walkout or, in the worst verdict, cancelation/replay of the final match!

Common sense cannot just fathom the sanity in taking the trophy from the team that won on the pitch and match-day, and giving it to the loser, even when the match was actually played till the final whistle of the official last minute of the game.

The mistake was done on the day of the match. Walking out of a match is tantamount to your opponent gifting the said match with 3pts and 3 goals and in the case of this match the cup. But CAF fail to do so on that day just bcus they don't want an African showpiece to be an embarrassment.
Since they didn't give that decision on that day, they should have let it be.
And talking about the trophy, if they like they should hold on to it as long as they won't, but it must be released before the next tournament

decatalyst:
Make CAF go with their "ground troupe" and retrieve the trophy nau.


I talk am say with all the de-camping happening with APC, CAF mistakenly de-camped to APC.

Nah why they came up with that Jega-INEC-like ruling.

Whether Senegal likes it or not, they must release the trophy before the next tournament. The only thing we don't know is if the replica will be given to them or not

McLizbae:
Na mumu go actually make Senegal release that trophy. CAF must fabricate another trophy for Morocco, since they wish to have two winners of the tournament.

The verdict from that case should be a sanction of the players that attempted the walkout or, in the worst verdict, cancelation/replay of the final match!

Common sense cannot just fathom the sanity in taking the trophy from the team that won on the pitch and match-day, and giving it to the loser, even when the match was actually played till the final whistle of the official last minute of the game.

But if it was not a cup final, 3 points would have been deducted from them anyway meaning that they would have automatically lost the match. Think about it.

McLizbae:
Na mumu go actually make Senegal release that trophy. CAF must fabricate another trophy for Morocco, since they wish to have two winners of the tournament.

The verdict from that case should be a sanction of the players that attempted the walkout or, in the worst verdict, cancelation/replay of the final match!

Common sense cannot just fathom the sanity in taking the trophy from the team that won on the pitch and match-day, and giving it to the loser, even when the match was actually played till the final whistle of the official last minute of the game.

why were morroco not penalised for all the towel grabbing that they did ?

GanagiBitrus:
Hope you know a Referee has full authority to declare MATCH ABANDONED & blow the Final Whistle & the game later awarded against the team that walked out.

That's enough signal & deterrent.

They should hand over the trophy and create another better one for themselves and call themselves Kings of African Football with that trophy there is nothing CAF or FIFA can do if you crown yourself kings of football.

In Africa, football is now played
90 minutes + two months 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Alikoooooooooo:
They should hand over the trophy and create another better one for themselves and call themselves Kings of African Football with that trophy there is nothing CAF or FIFA can do if you crown yourself kings of football.

What is at stake is beyond handing over trophy. It borders on the integrity & organisation of football.

Anyway, I believe CAS with right-thinking people on board will overrule CAFs award of the Trophy to Morocco.
Senegal will duly be fined/sanctioned.

Helinuse:
Why are you feeling like it was targeted at thee?

😃😃😃

I am not a member of his family and knows nothing about his family issues. It seems your own family also have mental development issues hence why you are feeling I was talking to you

SixSeven:
CAF opened a can of worms and everyone is asking for retroactive justice and guess who is going to be affected? Morocco again. So if they win this one, it is as good as losing the one they 'won' in 1976.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c0tzJATnE0

Nigeria/Ghana 2000. The final should also be reviewed.
Ikpeba scored a penalty against Cameron that the referee ignored.
Cameron also benefited from the illegal disallowed Henry Nwosu goal in the 1988 Final.
CAF is a joker

floss:
I’ve never seen sore losers like Morocco , so they couldn’t accept defeat … CAF JUST DISGRACED HERSELF BEING THE CHIEF PIONEER OF THIS SCANDAL

This means CAF worked against Nigeria in the semi-finls

GanagiBitrus:
You speak out of ignorance. Let me help you.

In such a walk-out situation;
The Referee has FULL POWERS to..
#1. Declare MATCH ABANDONED, blows the Final whistle & ends the game.
CAF awards the match & Trophy to Morocco & Sanctions Senegal.

#2. Allow some time for the players to return. Possibly issue Cards, restore order & continue officiating the match to the end.
The Result stands & CAF sanctions Senegal.

These are all ON-FIELD Decisions by the Referee & are considered FINAL.

Look, CAF's ruling was biased & possibly influenced by Morocco.
I bet you, CAS will overrule the award of the Trophy to Morocco. &Senegal will rightly be Fined/Sanctioned.

Most of u Nigerian are just angry cos Morocco knocked super eagles out... thats y u all support Senegal. ...

In as much as the ref is in charge...he doesn't have absolute powers ...that allowing Senegal to play when they got back was illegal... imagine if a team is playing with 12 players which is against the rules and somehow the ref allows it... and the game ends with the 12 players winning...u expect the opposition to accept because the ref allowed it ... There are rules and if any team feels that their opponents have violated the rules...they have the right to petition.....

82 explains the crime, 84 states the punishment... its clear like abc .... CAF have the hands tied ...no matter who judges the matter, Morocco will win...

Example... D explains what murder is ... F states the punishment is death... a person commits murder ...he's arrested and then released ...the victims relative petitions and the court delibrates on the matter and a year later the murder suspect is sentenced to death.... the convicts relatives will say its not acceptable cos the police released him after he was arrested... thats why u guys are trying to defend here

wirinet:
And who declared the game illegal, and when? Its definitely not the referee, not the two linesmen, and not the forth official. Even the whole of CAF and FIFA president on the stand watching the match live did not declare the match illegal. Then boom, two month later, the same march officials declared the match illegal. Maybe we should revisit Argentina winning of the 1982 World Cup and declared match between Argentina and England illegal, because Maradona scored an illegal goal with his hand, and the referee allowed the goal. In fact we should review every illegal/controversial goals in previous world cups, African Cup of nations and even Premiership matches, and reverse the results.

Scoring with a hand like Maradona did has its own rules..and according to the rules, the player will be fined and suspended .... walking out has its own rule and the judgement is forfeit...3.0

AMI3:
I asked assuming it was Morocco that won the match, what could have happened?
What judgement will they have passed?

Still they would have been champions...they wudnt have petitioned if they won ...

Change4dbeta:
Give an example of where this kind of decision has been taken in other confederations.

It's unprecedented....i have never seen it happen in my 32 years of watching football...Senegal really messed up ...

Lol nowhere is as safe as Army headquarters.

cr7lomo:
Most of u Nigerian are just angry cos Morocco knocked super eagles out... thats y u all support Senegal. ...

In as much as the ref is in charge...he doesn't have absolute powers ...that allowing Senegal to play when they got back was illegal... imagine if a team is playing with 12 players which is against the rules and somehow the ref allows it... and the game ends with the 12 players winning...u expect the opposition to accept because the ref allowed it ... There are rules and if any team feels that their opponents have violated the rules...they have the right to petition.....

82 explains the crime, 84 states the punishment... its clear like abc .... CAF have the hands tied ...no matter who judges the matter, Morocco will win...

Example... D explains what murder is ... F states the punishment is death... a person commits murder ...he's arrested and then released ...the victims relative petitions and the court delibrates on the matter and a year later the murder suspect is sentenced to death.... the convicts relatives will say its not acceptable cos the police released him after he was arrested... thats why u guys are trying to defend here

Take note of the following facts...

#1. In a walkout situation, a Referee has FULL POWERS to either end the game or restore order & continue officiating.

Are you aware that in 1976, Morocco staged a walkout in their 1st AFCON title?

#2. Why didn't the referee & match officials end the match when Senegal walked off?

Reason is because the officials had not judged Senegal's actions as a WALK-OFF but rather as a PROTEST. Sadio Mane was still in the pitch urging his players to return & they eventually did.
That's the referee's decision & it's Final.
So articles 82/84 have not actually come to play.

#3. Your 12-man example is similar to fielding an ineligible player. So YES the result can be overturned.
It's actually not an on-field decision because it was not Refs decision that they should be 12.

#4. CAS is like football's Supreme Court & has powers to overturn CAF's decision.
Bookmark this post; CAF's decision will be overturned.

#5. Never in football history has a result been overturned on account of an on-field decision by the referee.
Referee's ON-FIELD DECISIONS are FINAL

Consider...

cr7lomo:
It's unprecedented....i have never seen it happen in my 32 years of watching football...Senegal really messed up ...

No sir. CAF messed up big time.

Sonnobax15:

Good one.

CAF is a joke and they had just proven why the rest of the world has always kept seeing us, Africans as a backward continent.

Every type of madness has its own cure.

So long CAF can't stop asssslicking Morocco,let everybody kukuma mad the madness together .

Na so Africa Union(AU) dey Jones up and down wey make dem no get relevance in world affairs.Tell me one thing AU have achieved in Africa as a whole since inception.Absolutely noting honestly

Zidac:
But if it was not a cup final, 3 points would have been deducted from them anyway meaning that they would have automatically lost the match. Think about it.

Then if Morocco loses a match and did not qualify for the finals, then the winner of the finals would be stripped, and the tournament be awarded to Morocco, or declared inconclusive (apologies to INEC)

7upnigeria:
Grow up

Tell your dad to grow up first, slowpoke.

GanagiBitrus:
Take note of the following facts...

#1. In a walkout situation, a Referee has FULL POWERS to either end the game or restore order & continue officiating.

Are you aware that in 1976, Morocco staged a walkout in their 1st AFCON title?

#2. Why didn't the referee & match officials end the match when Senegal walked off?

Reason is because the officials had not judged Senegal's actions as a WALK-OFF but rather as a PROTEST. Sadio Mane was still in the pitch urging his players to return & they eventually did.
That's the referee's decision & it's Final.
So articles 82/84 have not actually come to play.

#3. Your 12-man example is similar to fielding an ineligible player. So YES the result can be overturned.
It's actually not an on-field decision because it was not Refs decision that they should be 12.

#4. CAS is like football's Supreme Court & has powers to overturn CAF's decision.
Bookmark this post; CAF's decision will be overturned.

#5. Never in football history has a result been overturned on account of an on-field decision by the referee.
Referee's ON-FIELD DECISIONS are FINAL

Consider...

Juventus we're relegated and their 2 league titles handed over to inter milan because the refs decisions favoured juve in winning those 2 league titles...

U all think refs decisions are always final...ita not in all cases ...

Even if mane was in the pitch... in football the rule stated that if 5 players from one team are all given red cards , the match should be forfeited and the opposing team awarded 3.0 , despite 6 players still on the pitch...so mane being on the pitch isn't enough....

Any protest that leads to a walk out is definitely a forfeited game ... there is no way on earth Senegal will win this... I said in that night it happened and I still stand by it.. I said the only way they can keep the cup is if Morocco decides to let it go... but they dint

cr7lomo:
Juventus we're relegated and their 2 league titles handed over to inter milan because the refs decisions favoured juve in winning those 2 league titles...

U all think refs decisions are always final...ita not in all cases ...

Even if mane was in the pitch... in football the rule stated that if 5 players from one team are all given red cards , the match should be forfeited and the opposing team awarded 3.0 , despite 6 players still on the pitch...so mane being on the pitch isn't enough....

Any protest that leads to a walk out is definitely a forfeited game ... there is no way on earth Senegal will win this... I said in that night it happened and I still stand by it.. I said the only way they can keep the cup is if Morocco decides to let it go... but they dint

ON-FIELD DECISIONS are final.
This has do with situations that arise in the course of a match that a Referee must take a decision on.

Juventus case was Match fixing & conspiracy with Referees to influence matches. So it's not on-field Decisions.

Back to the matter on ground...

The Referee is the one that decides at what point to declare a WALK-OUT.
It is not automatic.

Sadio Mane stayed back urging his players to return, so the Referee decided that their PROTEST did not get to the point to declare a WALK-OUT.
That's his decision & it is supposed to be final.

If he had declared a WALK-OUT, & the match awarded to Morocco, it would have ruined the competition. So I don't even blame him.

It's just because Morocco eventually lost the match that they are causing wahala.
There would have been no issues if they had scored & won in extra time.

So CAF awarding the Cup to Morocco was wrong.
What they should have done is to sanction the Referee if they believe he erred in not declaring a WALK-OUT.
&Also fine/sanction Senegal for leaving the pitch.

I rest my case.
If you are still in disagreement, then we wait for CAS ruling on the matter. 👋

GanagiBitrus:
ON-FIELD DECISIONS are final.
This has do with situations that arise in the course of a match that a Referee must take a decision on.

Juventus case was Match fixing & conspiracy with Referees to influence matches. So it's not on-field Decisions.

Back to the matter on ground...

The Referee is the one that decides at what point to declare a WALK-OUT.
It is not automatic.

Sadio Mane stayed back urging his players to return, so the Referee decided that their PROTEST did not get to the point to declare a WALK-OUT.
That's his decision & it is supposed to be final.

If he had declared a WALK-OUT, & the match awarded to Morocco, it would have ruined the competition. So I don't even blame him.

It's just because Morocco eventually lost the match that they are causing wahala.
There would have been no issues if they had scored & won in extra time.

So CAF awarding the Cup to Morocco was wrong.
What they should have done is to sanction the Referee if they believe he erred in not declaring a WALK-OUT.
&Also fine/sanction Senegal for leaving the pitch.

I rest my case.
If you are still in disagreement, then we wait for CAS ruling on the matter. 👋

Don't mind him crying more than the bereaved. Hakimi and the Moroccan players themselves have rejected the trophy. They are professional players who understand the rules of the game and don't want anything to stain their name and career. The guy is just making logical somersaults to justify an obvious illegality by CAF.

Helinuse:
There’s a reason why you are triggered.

I am only telling you that not everyone is interested in listening to your family problems