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Re: USA F-35 Fighter Jet Shot By Iranian Missile - CNN by Penguin2: 5:52pm On Mar 20
samfrancis1:
and we see what level of correction. Or sanity they’ve brought to those countries now.. now that the countries are on shambles.. they’re no threat.: the terrorist is no longer there na.. how many of those countries are however in the levels United state met them.. they’ve become the shadow of themself self.. they’ve become real terrorist dem.. slave trade quarters. I guess that’s what peace loving country United state want to achieve for you all…
Yeah. But at least it has deterred others from becoming like them.

Now, no leader would want to be like Gadaffi, Maduro, Saddam Hussein or Ali Khamenei.

It’s called deterrence.

If bad guys get no consequence for their actions then evil will become attractive.

Look at Nigeria for instance. We kept handling terrorists with kid gloves and ‘diplomacy’, now look at where that brought us.

Most bad guys only understand the use of force and it is absolutely justified when force is unleashed on them.
Re: USA F-35 Fighter Jet Shot By Iranian Missile - CNN by richeeyo(m): 6:27pm On Mar 20
Feldie:
they are not operating inside Iran. They strike from neighboring countries that's why Kuwaiti pilot mistakenly downed 3 F-15s because he saw them inside Kuwait
Nope you wrong sir
They operate inside
Guided by f35
Re: USA F-35 Fighter Jet Shot By Iranian Missile - CNN by Feldie: 7:01pm On Mar 20
richeeyo:
Nope you wrong sir
They operate inside
Guided by f35
proof? They operate MQ reaper drones inside Iran and have lost more 10. Other strikes from Kuwait and UAE
Re: USA F-35 Fighter Jet Shot By Iranian Missile - CNN by hollowpot15684(m): 8:06pm On Mar 20
Baxilexi:
Yes I am pro-US/Isreal because the word human rights wouldn’t have existed without the US. Slave trade would’ve never ended, social contracts and certain liberties would’ve been a fiction of our collective imaginations without their effort in the realms of human rights. I align with interest I wonder what common interest you share with Iran.

Repeating unsubstantiated rhetorics doesn’t make them true it only unveils cognitive laziness.
America uses its carriers to launch attack on Iran not their bases in the country- fact check it. The only privilege given is an open airspace.

Friend you’re new to international politics, I believe. MBS has time and again asked Iran what it wants, and the answer is not trade, commerce, technology sharing, it’s jihad, a vague ummah alliance. The GCC have various existential threats and in the world we live in science and money is what makes the difference. The UAE can make rain artificially, they have farmlands overseas they have inserted themselves in the global value chain, how come the US isn’t hampering their progress.

You should look up what a ‘theocracy’ is, it has no municipal laws, everything is, the will of God.
Read the Iranian constitution. There’s no peace in the future. What do you think Saudi or the GCCs want from Iran that they can’t get elsewhere?

As for Venezuela, Trump never lied about not being about oil and drugs. But the truth lies in the nuance;
1) America was being owed expropriation after nationalization,
2) America is paying for every single drop of oil taken from Venezuela.

As for Libya, is America running the Libyan government? Or Vietnamese? Or Iraqi? What happened there is what happens in an unstructured environment, if Trump sleeps today America will function like nothing happened the next day the problem is the system and not America and you should get your facts right, Libya isn’t suffering at the moment, they’re building non-authoritarian structures.

I guess the CIA is sponsoring the rebels in Sudan, Congo, Boko haram and my question is to what end? Somehow you refuse to see the other actors in the room. There is no where the US has been that Russia wasn’t, are you aware Russia founded North Korea? Are you aware of the Middle Africa illegal gold trades funded by Russia? Are you aware that Russia has massive influence in east Africa especially Central African Republic? Are you aware that Russia has influence in South America? Or was it not Russia that kept Assad in power.
Quite interesting... You are pro-Us/Israel because they ended the slave trade. If this is the case, then you have absolute zero undersranding of the Neo-colonia games that is currently being played by the Judaism Hebrew (Jews) using the America has a proxy. You basically don't understand the Greater Israel project under the theological principle of "The choosen one" - a theology saying that the rest of the world is a slave to the jews, and in order to achieve that, the GCC need to be destroyed, giving room for Israel to become the dominant power in the middle east... Currently, the only countey stopping the greater israel from coming into fruition is "Iran".

So saying you're pro-US/Israel because US abolishes slave trade is just being myopic.

Also, it is suprising you claim America didnt use their bases in the GCC to attack Iran. Nonetheless, let me remind you that Irans only objective is to decapitate Americas economy so that the war reaches either a stalemate or back to negotiation table.

Finally, were you not aware of Epstein file or the leak related to USAID? cos how do you claim youre not aware that humanitarian funds from US are pumped into terrorism in Africa. What about the UAE sponsoribg terrorism in Sudan? Were you not informed?

Let me reiterate this, I have no common interest with Iran, and neither do i have for US or Israel. My interest is in Nigeria and how our economy can maneuver in this uncertain period.
Re: USA F-35 Fighter Jet Shot By Iranian Missile - CNN by Baxilexi(m): 11:37pm On Mar 20
hollowpot15684:
Quite interesting... You are pro-Us/Israel because they ended the slave trade. If this is the case, then you have absolute zero undersranding of the Neo-colonia games that is currently being played by the Judaism Hebrew (Jews) using the America has a proxy. You basically don't understand the Greater Israel project under the theological principle of "The choosen one" - a theology saying that the rest of the world is a slave to the jews, and in order to achieve that, the GCC need to be destroyed, giving room for Israel to become the dominant power in the middle east... Currently, the only countey stopping the greater israel from coming into fruition is "Iran".

So saying you're pro-US/Israel because US abolishes slave trade is just being myopic.

Also, it is suprising you claim America didnt use their bases in the GCC to attack Iran. Nonetheless, let me remind you that Irans only objective is to decapitate Americas economy so that the war reaches either a stalemate or back to negotiation table.

Finally, were you not aware of Epstein file or the leak related to USAID? cos how do you claim youre not aware that humanitarian funds from US are pumped into terrorism in Africa. What about the UAE sponsoribg terrorism in Sudan? Were you not informed?

Let me reiterate this, I have no common interest with Iran, and neither do i have for US or Israel. My interest is in Nigeria and how our economy can maneuver in this uncertain period.
Borrowing an excerpt from Niccolo Machiavelli’s book the prince, it’s is much easier to topple a parliamentary government than a monarchy.

Isreal doesn’t have the man power to hold the Middle East under its control; ask Julius Caesar, same reason the Roman Empire failed, more territories less control.

And that’s what gave strength to the Arab-Islamic caliphates. Incessant wars between the Byzantine and Sassanids paved the way for them. And what did they do not to repeat the Roman mistake, they did a complete erasure of the history and identity of all countries they conquered, unlike the Roman’s that still preserved the heritage of their colonies.

Greater Isreal is an impossible task, look back into history.

As for the Epstein situation, if this government doesn’t prosecute another will. It’s America, nothing gets swept under the rug. The world should chill.

And who brought it to light that the USAID funds were not being used for the purpose intended? Let me help you here, Trump.
Who released the Epstein files? Trump.

Nigeria cannot reinvent the wheel of governance. When it’s ready it will adopt a tried and tested template of governance and from what I’ve come to understand the Scandinavian model is the best.
In Norway, everyone’s salary is public information- true transparency.

Re: USA F-35 Fighter Jet Shot By Iranian Missile - CNN by hollowpot15684(m): 12:26am On Mar 21
Baxilexi:
Borrowing an excerpt from Niccolo Machiavelli’s book the prince, it’s is much easier to topple a parliamentary government than a monarchy.

Isreal doesn’t have the man power to hold the Middle East under its control; ask Julius Caesar, same reason the Roman Empire failed, more territories less control.

And that’s what gave strength to the Arab-Islamic caliphates. Incessant wars between the Byzantine and Sassanids paved the way for them. And what did they do not to repeat the Roman mistake, they did a complete erasure of the history and identity of all countries they conquered, unlike the Roman’s that still preserved the heritage of their colonies.

Greater Isreal is an impossible task, look back into history.

As for the Epstein situation, if this government doesn’t prosecute another will. It’s America, nothing gets swept under the rug. The world should chill.

And who brought it to light that the USAID funds were not being used for the purpose intended? Let me help you here, Trump.
Who released the Epstein files? Trump.

Nigeria cannot reinvent the wheel of governance. When it’s ready it will adopt a tried and tested template of governance and from what I’ve come to understand the Scandinavian model is the best.
In Norway, everyone’s salary is public information- true transparency.
It appears you are the only one who got the memo that Greater Israel is an impossible project. As far as Nethanyahu is concerned, GCC can burn, Beruit can go down, Saudi and Qatar can be use for false flag operation, thousands of children can goto h£ll in Gaza and the West bank. As far as they are concerned, the course is vivid and achievable.

And regarding inability to assert control because of inadequate manpower, I'm a little bit lost on that, its 21st century man, Artificial Intelligence is not here for the fun of it, to control territory is much easier with Ai and Nuke. In this age you dont need to stretch your army when you have an intercontinental ballistic missiles, and a SAT watching over the airspace of your enemy. The world is now a global village, and its now easier for the King to see the market square without stepping its feet out of the palace.

As for transparency and Nigeria, I'd have to agree with you on that.
Re: USA F-35 Fighter Jet Shot By Iranian Missile - CNN by oakenfold: 3:35am On Mar 21
hollowpot15684:
You are pro-America/Isreali !
I don't have time to take sides, i only speak to hypocricy, and weave down the butterfly in your stomach that is making you promote something you know nothing about, except for the ones American media has told you.

As per diplomacy, there is nothing like "it's gone", there is always diplomacy on the table, even at the height of a genocide. And the reason diplomacy is always on the table is because of common interest. Its not about moderate person gets into power, its about do you have what we need? can you give us? What do you want in return? As long as the two sides are willing to deal with eachother, diplomacy will always be on the table wether the person there is moderate or not... And if you still dont agree, then explain how America still deals with Syrias headchopper who has executed hundreds of person.

Then you saying that Iran blow up Qatar source of oil is ridiculous... Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Oman, UAE all made themself Americas proxy. America using them to attack Iran key infrastructure, including its gas plant which happened 2days back, amd what do you expect Iran to do in return? To fold its arms and be smilling with the GCC? This is why i say that youre hypocritical on this. The game is simple and straight forward... Since you made yourself proxy of the US, then your infrastructure would suffer it too... Moreover, the American economy is built on the PetrolDollar, about half of the strenght of the Dollar comes from the middle-east, so if you were Iran in this War, wont you do everything within your capacity to cripple the American dollar?

In summary, Iran will always be open to diplomacy, however, it has stated that it will fight the war to a concrete conclusion, and that is because it can no longer afford a world where Isreal and US will continue to bully them.

Also, The GCC (Saudi, Oman, UAE, Qatar) has never been friend with Iran, they have been a big pretender and worshipers of wealth over regional peace and stability. And how on earth do you separate IRGC from Iran, its like separating NAF from Nigeria or Marine from United state.

America said Venezuela is exporting drug, but after Maduro was capturedu we see clearly its about the oil, America wants Cuba, they want Greenland, they want to take Canada... They destroyed Libya, Iraq... They want Iran gone by saying they are developing Neclear warhead, and that they sponsor terrorism... When we know quite well that the CIA and mossad are the biggest sponsor of terrorism in Africa and around the world... Its all about Oil, and power control... and if you dont know that by now despite the chunk of information out there pointing to that fact, then i wont blame you.
You are arguing with someone who was saying Iran and Somalia are similar. The fellow is completely clueless about any of the history or dynamics of Iran, it's embarrassing. He is just here to kiss up to Trump and the USA, no matter the situation, not learn anything.
Re: USA F-35 Fighter Jet Shot By Iranian Missile - CNN by hollowpot15684(m): 4:01am On Mar 21
oakenfold:
You are arguing with someone who was saying Iran and Somalia are similar. The fellow is completely clueless about any of the history or dynamics of Iran, it's embarrassing. He is just here to kiss up to Trump and the USA, no matter the situation, not learn anything.
I never knew.
Re: USA F-35 Fighter Jet Shot By Iranian Missile - CNN by richeeyo(m): 11:21am On Mar 21
Feldie:
proof? They operate MQ reaper drones inside Iran and have lost more 10. Other strikes from Kuwait and UAE
For every Reaper short down
They were able to locate the system that finished it off
Re: USA F-35 Fighter Jet Shot By Iranian Missile - CNN by Feldie: 12:53pm On Mar 21
richeeyo:
For every Reaper short down
They were able to locate the system that finished it off
that's not the point
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