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Giigglee:
The fears of Europe is once they took Ukraine they will start taking up other territories of the old USSR and maybe start challenging other European countries Putin handled the whole thing too much in a rush. Fine NATO could have used Ukraine to get to him but other countries near him like Poland are in NATO so that is not still justified. It the same reason why NATO doesn't want to help out with America nobody is interested in expansion politics especially after they wanted to take Greenland.

JuanDeDios:
You're grasping at straws - Poland, Finland and Sweden are not insignificant countries. Each of them of is far more "dangerous" to Russia than Poland (I put dangerous in quotes because, outside of you people's imagination, nobody wants to attack Russia. No Nato, Not USA. Not Ukraine.)

You're lying. There is no formal application to join Nato made by Zelensky and there is no document or record of a meeting in which Nato agreed to admit Ukraine. Again, your imagination is playing tricks on you.

muyico:
Congratulations to great Russia 🪆

WorkTheTalk:
[b] How can you say you are a world power, but you can't take over a small neighboring country ruled by the so-called comedian Volodymyr Zelenskyy in 4 years,

whereas the real world powers are feasting in Venezuela, Iran, and many other countries who are your allies?

maasoap:
Ukraine is not fighting alone, weapons and mercenaries from all around the world. Left alone, Ukraine would have fallen long time ago
Iran is alone. And Trump and Netanyahu just found out that they have messed with the wrong country

WriteerNg:

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Trump boasted to take over Iran in 2 days. Like Maduro.

He said it'll be swift and decisive victory and Iran would surrender.

How's that going?

Also, I dare you to show us where Putin said he'll take over Ukraine in 2 weeks.

Mattswaggz:
Lol....Finland and Sweden more dangerous than Poland.....I am done arguing with you...like WTF man. .

WorkTheTalk:
Give it up to the real world powers, Trump/Netanyahu

JuanDeDios:
Point out where I said or implied that Finland and Sweden and more dangerous than Poland. Seems all Putin bots struggle with basic comprehension.

Pacesetter123:
Did I hear you say nobody is interested in expansion politics?
The way you guys analyze Int'l politics do amaze me atimes.
What do you called 'expansion politics'?
In 1991,USSR was balkanized into 15 countries due to external pressure from Europe and America.
The NATO that was formed for that purpose was made to sign an agreement at Warsaw with Russia that they will not expand to any of the new countries splinted from Russia.
Today, NATO you said are not interested in expansion politics has expanded to almost all the countries formally of Russia in defiance to the earlier agreement they signed with Russia.
Then among the 15 countries splitted from Russia, Ukraine is the only one that is a part of them as majority of the Ukrainians are Russians.
So, Russia pleaded with NATO that they should not attempt to expand further to Ukraine which is Russia itself.That they have already taken every other former Russian territories without Russia fighting with them.
That they should leave Ukraine which is Russia alone.But they refused.
In 2014,they sponsored internal insurrection in Ukraine that ousted an elected president,Victor Yanukovic for being Pro-Russia and installed a Pro-NATO Zelensky.
Zelensky then sponsor a bill in Parliament to obliterate Russian language in schools,and kickstart the process of joining NATO and EU.
Putin warned him.He didn't listen.
And Putin,in an attempt to prevent NATO/EU from surrounding his country and finally attacking them went to war with Ukraine/NATO.

And out of sentiment,you are here saying he acted in a rush.
What rush?
So,to you,he should have waited until his enemy surrounds him before he act, right?

Secondly,NATO taking over former Russian territories against Warsaw Pact and Budapest treaty is not expansion politics to you, right?

NATO, building their military Bases all over the middle east that is not their territory is not an expansion politics to you also?

America attempting to annex Greenland, Mexico and Canada is not an expansion politics , according to you.
Since nobody is interested in expansion politics again.
You try well ..oo!!!

WriteerNg:

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Not deaths.

About 10 million Ukrainians fled to neighboring countries. About 2 million are dead or wounded, while the remaining 8 million are in Russian occupied regions in Ukraine.

Since these Ukranian territories are now basically Russian, the inhabitants would no longer be counted as Ukranians.

By the way, 3 million Ukrainians fled to Russian mainland in the early months of the war.

The problem with immigration is that it'll be hard for those that left to return, majority of them are women. They've started whole new lives in their various countries and might never return to an unstable and unsafe country.

All it'll take is a single generation for those Ukranians to fully convert to the nationality of their host countries. Ukraine has lost them forever.

WriteerNg:

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In 4 years 20 million gone.

Would you like to see another 20 million gone in another 4 years?

And FYI, if you believe Ukranian men are the ones still holding ground, I have a bridge to sell you.

Ukraine recruits from every part of the world. There are dozens of websites where any random person can apply and join. Easy.

WorkTheTalk:
So Putin promised to capture Volodymyr Zelenskyy dead or alive, and take over Ukraine in 2 weeks. Yet after 4 years of throw drones into residencial areas in Ukraine like Iran, he lies to himself that Ukraine's population is now reduced by half.

Even the Russia fanboy, the OP, believes the propaganda that 20 millions Ukraine are gone. You folks are all comedians. Common sense should have let you know that Ukraine isn't stopping its citizens from taken shelters in other European countries until the war is over. In your feeble mind, 20 millions Ukrainians are dead.

How can you say you are a world power, but you can't take over a small neighboring country ruled by the so-called comedian Volodymyr Zelenskyy in 4 years, whereas the real world powers are feasting in Venezuela, Iran, and many other countries who are your allies?

Mrexcell:
Those 20m were not killed in the war i don't even think up to 2m Ukrainians has been killed in this ongoing war. Those 20m includes those living in the regions that russia captured and Ukrainians that has fled Ukraine.

Natbrowny:
See I understand you perfectly. Someone pointed that too. I said i get wetin he dey try talk.

My problem with the whole thing is that the stats is coming from a BRITISH Personnel.

We both know what British represents here.