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hoover420:
He has already answered some questions on WhatsApp but it’s not to my satisfaction which is why I came to ask again in the thread. Infact I was skeptical about making payments to him because he doesn’t accept payment on delivery but fortunately I searched for his profile on TikTok and I saw him conducting one live session while testing some batteries. And he even have a store at Alaba

hoover420:
Thanks, I think I’ll message you for the complete list of what I need so our local installers here won’t use me shine teeth. And another thing again, those installers might get inferior components just to save cost which is why I am making enquiries. Atleast na for this thread I know say lithium better pass Tubular and I had a lot of people recommending tubular for me till I stumbled across this thread.

Dam5reey:
😂, we are actively installing too, I guess I responded sha.
One unit of 535w will work but may not charge fast.
Start with one and share your experience no guess work again since the journey already started!

Thanks for your patronage. Man is now very busy sha!

We sell everything you need to install but we do advice you go with installers recommendations too, so they are happy doing your job well

Message us again we will send you complete list of what you need.

hoover420:
Guys, I have eventually gotten Deriy 3.6kwh Battery and Haisic 1.5kva from the ever reliable Dam5reey1 to begin my solar journey. My question is can I get a jinko 535 watt for a start and what other components do I need aside from the Battery & Inverter? PS My load is just 55 inch TV, 110 watt freezer & 2 fans. Also, is it advisable to use 5k stabilizer to charge the inverter since the electricity in my area is kinda low.

Darey00:
1. Yes you can but charging will be very slow. I use the same battery and have 2 585w panels. Takes about 6 hours to charge at 600w constant power. So do the math.
2. Solar cable from panel to inverter, wire from battery to inverter, voltage protection box, solar and NEPA breakers.
3. I don't use stabilizer for mine since the inverter trips (not Haisic) but I imagine you can

Unfaized:
Why are your 2 585w panels producing just 600w constant power to charge? Have you tried increasing the charging current?

Darey00:
Adjusted for real-life conditions.

I get > 800w but no be everytime

Unfaized:
Why are your 2 585w panels producing just 600w constant power to charge? Have you tried increasing the charging current?

bassdow:
You need understand something. If you don't have expereicne, we must chop you one way or the other. Just pray to fall into hand of person wey go get your interest at heart.

See eh, when you enter omo Ibo shop, He knows you're inExperienced hence would do to you, what you were trying to avoid. How far depends on how greedy He/She is.

For few of us, our fee is enough. Should we see extra change while buying things, no wahala BUT our focus is ensuring we do a good job so you enjoy it enough to refer us to others.

BUT issue is, a lot of us go chop you so tey the work go suffer. Now customer decides to buy things dem selves and ends up being CHEATed by the seller.

I know one wey wan mad because e buy 30m copper cable only for me to tell am say e no reach 26 meters. e argue so tey I find tape measure am come get almost 25 meters. Madam wan mad pass Oga wey spend money. She was like despite how honest the Man seemed. For my mind I was like what were you expecting ? make e look and sound disHonest.

Now that doesn't mean all Sellers are that way BUT most are. Even we wey sabi, we still need shine eyes well.

Another issue is, Customers sometimes share the blame; you want to pay peanut as workManship despite having many heavy solar panels with sendDownTheRain roof on a 2 or 3 storey building. You don't mind spending premium on things BUT when e reach workManship, you wan pay the person like say na You dey do am Favour or na you teach am work. Most in other not to loose you, agrees, then compensate / supplement the rest from what they buy.

As for Lithium vs leadAcid batteries; Lithium is only better if you got quality ones. Without that, you better of buying quality leadAcid batteries from reputable brands which are easier to find. There's other reason Lithium batteries are promoted more in here BUT ...

Darey00:
1. Yes you can but charging will be very slow. I use the same battery and have 2 585w panels. Takes about 6 hours to charge at 600w constant power. So do the math.
2. Solar cable from panel to inverter, wire from battery to inverter, voltage protection box, solar and NEPA breakers.
3. I don't use stabilizer for mine since the inverter trips (not Haisic) but I imagine you can

Compliant:
I got my 8.5kwh from valto too and have been serving me wela.

hoover420:
Okay thanks. Quick question, do you use Nepa light to charge your inverter and how many hours does it take to full using it? Also, can washing machine be used with the inverter with no issues?

AyobamiOluwole:
Ok. Cool.

The guy is a great guy. I’ve watched almost all his videos. He is probably more knowledgeable in solar than 99% of the people here.

So it shouldn’t be surprising to you that someone finds it weird that you could not ask him those questions you asked here. But I understand you now. Congrats on your new venture.

hoover420:
I asked few questions now but he’s just a seller, he doesn’t know it all. I just wanted different opinions and learn from the experience of others since a lot of people here have been in this solar journey for a long time.

Trippledots:
Solarissurge, just a seller?

Olololoooo... 😂

lungwun:
Hey buddy.

Please what inverters work best with Valto’s batteries?

Which one are you using?

bassdow:
what if the Customer is to be blamed ?

Except they are widely known to be unreliable, this shouldn't be an advice abeg. No spoil market for people unnecessarily.

Darey00:
1. Nepa at 60A is around 1100w and takes like 3 hours
2. Yes it can, depending on the type. I use hisense twin tub

cj1080:
I moved into an area that had light problems in Lagos Called Ijegun

This started my journey into inverter and then solar upgrades

As I moved in here in 2023 and saw the state of the phcn here, I needed something that I and my family could use at night, as against running generators through out the night.

having bought 2 batteries (1 55am lithium ion in 2023 and a 100am Lithium ion in 2024)

The 55am battery came with a 1000watt modified sine wave inverter,

It kept 2 DC rechargable fans running for 4 hours when fully charged, with the inverter making noise so loud.

When the 105am battery came with a 2000watt modified sine wave inverters and each came with lithium ion battery charger.

I felt that would at least carry the TV as extra, still increase the fan use by about 2 extra hours.


Then in February 2025 our transform which only provided low light blew(how that happened I do not know), phcn came to inspect then later came to carry it.

It's March 2026, still no hope for it yet, and through out the time I ran a 6kva generator to charge my batteries every evening, that became too expensive, so i got a tiger Gen and modified it to be able to charge one battery at a time for 3 hours a day(if you have ever had to run generators during the night 9pm-12pm everyday for 10months, you will understand the expense and maintainance cost, which far out weighed the cost of getting a fully solar option)

Which is what I decided to do in December, took an upfront reached out

Got someone who decided it's best to save cost by using my batteries and just getting an new sine wave inverter (euronet 1.25kv) and panel(went with 6 200wat tiny panels)

Since installation, I have literally abandoned my my street discussions about the transform, as if it does come, it's ok, if it comes it's ok.

My wife gets to finally use the fridge for 12 hours a day, with watch the TV . For me the big one was I could finally get to use the washing machine during the day(although I technically have to wait for sun to be at its peak and switch off every other thing in the house).

This been 3 months, and I have more than 22 hours of light (switch off the inverter for 3 hours a day during the evening)

Now I am looking to upgrade the inverter and add another battery.

Any recommendations would be appreciated

My setup


Are your batteries lithium?

Trippledots:
Solarissurge, just a seller?

Olololoooo... 😂

hoover420:
My apologies, I’m new to this thread

osayuwamwen:
I just try it again now with no pv input and it still carry the pump and it pulling 1.9kw too, I think the issue was with the pump at first, reason it was pulling 4.1kw

isentropic:
Guys,
I just installed 12KVA felicity inverter with 15Kwh felicity battery.12 X 440W jinko panels connected in series to PV1 and 10 X 590W jinko panels connected in parallel (5-5 in Parallel) to PV2. The inverter has an inbuilt mppt so no need for external charge controller.Anything to be worried of.Just seeking opinions incase I missed something

seepanel:
between Haustrom or euronet or Welion inverter, which is better

bassdow:
Just so you know; I buy and use Lithium based batteries for most clients. Have even bought directly (myself) and inDirectly (pointing the client) from the likes of @valto and @mrReed though they hardly would know because me no dey introduce. BUT persoanlly, still uses both Tubular and SLA batteries for various reasons.

BUT it's bad blindly doing something without knowing why you following such route. My major issue with Lithium based batteries is, it's easier to deceive the customer.

Marketers keep advertising and telling you Lithium batteries has 90% to 95% Dept of Discharge hence is better than Tubular batteries which is 50% Dept of Discharge BUT what they fail to inform you of is, running your Lithium based batteries to such length wouldn't allow it last that many Cycles and years they promised you.

Compare 3 lithium batteries of same brand, same load, same quality charger, same user BUT 1st is ran at 50% DOD, the 2nd at 70% DOD, and the 3rd at 90% DOD. You need not be told the one at 90% DOD would fail first, followed by the one at 70% DOD, and lastly the one at 50% DOD.

That's if your Lithium battery is of a quality brand to begin with.

They mostly tell you what you wanna hear.

I would say, Lithium is better BUT only if DONE right else you just wasting money. Have read of tubular and leadAcid batteries lasting as much as 8 to 10 years and personally, have clients who have used theirs for over 5-years and counting.

Another thing wey dey kill battery na team 24v 5kva inverters; and those who buy 200AH battery when they actually needed 400AH.

Hybrid inverters which prioritize Solar panels as source would actually save battery more than those that doesn't. Funny enough, not all hybrid inverters have such feature. Most go for Hybrid to avoid paying for Charge Controller, not for said feature.

Good Morning

adimx:
What was the surge wattage when you powered the pump?

Dabss:
Anywhere I see pictures of a fresh tubular battery installation, your name is what pops up in my mind.

osayuwamwen:
Am only seeing constant 1.9kw on the inverter