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MorataFC:
Am I the only one who thinks Camavinga is overrated?
I honestly don’t see anything particularly special in his game. His level, to me, team like Burnley, Fulham, or Wolves. Playing in a star studded team helps his carreer.

Eduardo Camavinga??

raumdeuter:
I am thinking they see signals that Pep will be leaving soon and he figured that the City project is over for him and he has done as much as he can

But in Madrid he has Tchouameni and Camavinga to contend with

Come on a fit rodri is levels above Camavinga and Tchoumani. He is exactly the kind of player Madrid midfield is crying out for.

I don't think it's about Pep leaving, am hoping he sees out his contract and leave with a league title. It's just a Spanish player who wants to return home after achieving all he could in England. If he wants to leave he should say it now so we can sell him and plan ahead on who to get.

larride:
Olise starting ahead of Cherki should not be a debate

Cherki can play as 10 so he doesn't need to bench olise. The problem is Deschamps prefers a 3 man midfield.

MorataFC:
Am I the only one who thinks Camavinga is overrated?
I honestly don’t see anything particularly special in his game. His level, to me, team like Burnley, Fulham, or Wolves. Playing in a star studded team helps his carreer.

Same here too.

There has never been any wow factor to his game.

Ebukacute:
Eduardo Camavinga??

Yes

Stats won't tell you how he refused to make the pass to saka but has a complete pass back to Gyokeres.

The game is bleeped and the quality is reducing with each passing year.

It’s on your left foot!!

I kept screaming!! Pass it to Sak!!!

They created an overload. All you needed to do was switch it!!! pic.twitter.com/JhaTR7xZCO

— GravityGooner✨ (@Gravitygunner14) March 24, 2026

Godx:
Come on a fit rodri is levels above Camavinga and Tchoumani. He is exactly the kind of player Madrid midfield is crying out for.

I don't think it's about Pep leaving, am hoping he sees out his contract and leave with a league title. It's just a Spanish player who wants to return home after achieving all he could in England. If he wants to leave he should say it now so we can sell him and plan ahead on who to get.

When will you see a fit Rodri again. That version of 2023 is it ever coming back? He has tried and still not at that level plus he is getting older

Godx:
Cherki can play as 10 so he doesn't need to bench olise. The problem is Deschamps prefers a 3 man midfield.

That 3 man midfield gives them more solidity than using Cherki as 10

Dembele might be the preferred RW, Mbappe LW and a fodder like Thuram for 9. I think that is their best formation

popizaino:
First and foremost our kind of food and cooking methods,makes open kitchen plan alien to us.

Our weather condition,makes the concept a foreign one too.

Then our power issues.

How do you take heats off those kitchen without the electricity to power your heat extractor?

Nigerians going with open kitchen plans are just doing it for trending sake and probably aesthetic. No common sense it.

Aesthetics is also one legit reason people might follow a trend

Football is cruel

This is the best bayern Munich side ever but they never won the ucl.

Bavarians ⚪️🔴
Who remembered this match against ATM!🫠 pic.twitter.com/LmO4EyzTyt

— SHEGE (@_Shege001) March 25, 2026

raumdeuter:
But in Madrid he has Tchouameni and Camavinga to contend with

Person wey small academy boy Pitarch don dey bench. Half fit Rodri benches both easily lol.

raumdeuter:
When will you see a fit Rodri again. That version of 2023 is it ever coming back? He has tried and still not at that level plus he is getting older

Rodri is already getting to his peak form. By next season he should be at least 90% there.

MorataFC:
Am I the only one who thinks Camavinga is overrated?
I honestly don’t see anything particularly special in his game. His level, to me, team like Burnley, Fulham, or Wolves. Playing in a star studded team helps his carreer.

How now? How you get a regular shirt in a star studded teams no be beans

You know how many don go Madrid and failed

popizaino:
Same here too.

There has never been any wow factor to his game.

You dont have to be wow to be an effective DM, I will say the more boring you are the better

popizaino:
Football is cruel

This is the best bayern Munich side ever but they never won the ucl.
66362

Simeone said that was the hardest game he ever played

larride:
Olise starting ahead of Cherki should not be a debate

Cherki is more of an AM. Olise is a winger. And yeah, Olise starts.

Godx:
Rodri is already getting to his peak form. By next season he should be at least 90% there.

What period does this stat cover?

popizaino:
Football is cruel

This is the best bayern Munich side ever but they never won the ucl.

Best Bayern side ever ke? Pep's Bayern were dominant but they were not as decisive as some of the other Bayern teams we have seen. Just like his Barcelona side, they had problems navigating knockout ties away from home. Crashing out to three different Spanish teams thrice in a row when we were eliminating the same sides just before he took over was very disappointing.

raumdeuter:
You dont have to be wow to be an effective DM, I will say the more boring you are the better

Makelele was never boring

Sergio Busquet was also not boring

Just saying!

MorataFC:
Am I the only one who thinks Camavinga is overrated?
I honestly don’t see anything particularly special in his game. His level, to me, team like Burnley, Fulham, or Wolves. Playing in a star studded team helps his carreer.

Ah! Cama sabi oh. Injuries might have stifled his development a bit but he is an elite talent. Have you forgotten his impact in Madrid's 2022 UCL run? That boy na baller. I like the verticality and fearlessness in his play. He just needs to cut out the rashness in his tackling.

pkasso:
Ah! Cama sabi oh. Injuries might have stifled his development a bit but he is an elite talent. Have you forgotten his impact in Madrid's 2022 UCL run? That boy na baller. I like the verticality and fearlessness in his play. He just needs to cut out the rashness in his tackling.

What of the 2022 world cup final.

Singapore1:
my only worry is their middle

There’s a reason Kante is back.

raumdeuter:
That 3 man midfield gives them more solidity than using Cherki as 10

Dembele might be the preferred RW, Mbappe LW and a fodder like Thuram for 9. I think that is their best formation

I’ll rather go:

Kante, Tchouameni and Camavinga in midfield. Then Olise at RW, Dembele ST, Mbappe LW.

On current form, Thuram has no right to start ahead of Olise in a front three.

raumdeuter:
What of the 2022 world cup final.

That one sef dey. I was shocked seeing MorataFC doubt Camavinga's quality. Someone that was delivering in high-pressure matches at age 20. Wetin that boy eye don see, some veterans never smell am.

pkasso:
Best Bayern side ever ke? Pep's Bayern were dominant but they were not as decisive as some of the other Bayern teams we have seen. Just like his Barcelona side, they had problems navigating knockout ties away from home. Crashing out to three different Spanish teams thrice in a row when we were eliminating the same sides just before he took over was very disappointing.

Yes, the best bayern Munich side ever was the team that pep guardiola assembled in 2015/2016 season.

I did not say bayern Munich under pep guardiola but the particular team that lost to Atletico Madrid.

I don't even know how to describe that team.

It is one of the greatest assemble of individual talents i have ever come across. The team had no weakness coupled with the fact that they were coached by a brilliant manager in pep.

They were completely dominant.

I remember watching the semi-final second leg at a viewing center in Ogbomoso and towards the last minutes, the Manchester united and real madrid who came to hate watch pep then were already warning us to raise down the roof should bayern score a later winner.

Until the final whistle,no one thought they won't be qualifying. That's how legendary the team was.

Griffon:
I’ll rather go:

Kante, Tchouameni and Camavinga in midfield. Then Olise at RW, Dembele ST, Mbappe LW.

On current form, Thuram has no right to start ahead of Olise in a front three.

PSG is an attacking side and possession side, French NT is a counter attacking side Deschamps will not become an attacking coach now.

For a counter attacking side, you lump a lot of balls forward for your big man to hold up and lay off to your runners, Dembele cannot handle that, He is a False 9, Possession teams benefit more from False 9s than counter attacking team. Counter attacking favors their best player who is Mbappe
For the French IMO, its either Olise or Dembele, As much as I love Olise, I would bench him for Dembele who is quicker
France has a setup that already worked for them in the last 5 tournaments under Deschamps that got them to the semis in almost all

In football its not all the time you put all your best players on the same field, Sometimes you have to drop some attacking stars so it doesnt create an imbalance

Remember Brazil in 2006 who tried to cramp R9, Dinho Kaka, Adriano Juninho into a starting 11 and it didnt work out.
The same Brazil won in 2002 but they had to drop Romario and Edmundo to be more balanced

It also happened to the Madrid early 2000 Galacticos

ibime what do you think is the best French setup

popizaino:
Yes, the best bayern Munich side ever was the team that pep guardiola assembled in 2015/2016 season.

I did not say bayern Munich under pep guardiola but the particular team that lost to Atletico Madrid.

I don't even know how to describe that team.

It is one of the greatest assemble of individual talents i have ever come across. The team had no weakness coupled with the fact that they were coached by a brilliant manager in pep.

They were completely dominant.

I remember watching the semi-final second leg at a viewing center in Ogbomoso and towards the last minutes, the Manchester united and real madrid who came to hate watch pep then were already warning us to raise down the roof should bayern score a later winner.

Until the final whistle,no one thought they won't be qualifying. That's how legendary the team was.

That game was Bayern's best showing under Pep and that team was the best version of Pep's Bayern. But best Bayern team ever? Nah, I don't think so. If we are talking single season, then it's probably Flick's 19-20 Bayern.

popizaino:
Yes, the best bayern Munich side ever was the team that pep guardiola assembled in 2015/2016 season.
I did not say bayern Munich under pep guardiola but the particular team that lost to Atletico Madrid.
I don't even know how to describe that team.
It is one of the greatest assemble of individual talents i have ever come across. The team had no weakness coupled with the fact that they were coached by a brilliant manager in pep.
They were completely dominant.
I remember watching the semi-final second leg at a viewing center in Ogbomoso and towards the last minutes, the Manchester united and real madrid who came to hate watch pep then were already warning us to raise down the roof should bayern score a later winner.
Until the final whistle,no one thought they won't be qualifying. That's how legendary the team was.

I do not agree that side was the best.

1. I didn't like Thiago in midfield, he is too soft, too stylish, more concerned about his flick and waist turning to make a no look 5meter pass. Summarily he was a luxury player carry along, who was mediocre in attack/chance creation, below average in defence, barely fit and cannot hold possession in midfield, There was a reason Spanish NT never used him reliably

In the first leg it was him who escorted Saul Niguez for over 20 meters without putting in a tackle for Saul to score the lone goal in Spain. I would have preferred if we had a Fit Javi Martinez, a younger Arturo Vidal in middle. By the time we got Vidal he was too old na rough tackle remain for him body

2. Pep was always dulling in away games, He lost to Porto and Atletico. and no be everytime you will be able to overturn an away deficit

I remember that game too, I was wearing a red shirt, I left work at lunch time to enter a pub to go watch the game, I had high hopes that we would win especially after Atletico missed a penalty but it wasn't just to be. Very painful

Griffon:
I’ll rather go:

Kante, Tchouameni and Camavinga in midfield. Then Olise at RW, Dembele ST, Mbappe LW.

On current form, Thuram has no right to start ahead of Olise in a front three.

When has Dembele ever performed for France for all of you to be treating him as a guaranteed starter.

Griffon:
I’ll rather go:

Kante, Tchouameni and Camavinga in midfield. Then Olise at RW, Dembele ST, Mbappe LW.

On current form, Thuram has no right to start ahead of Olise in a front three.

This ship has sailed for most coaches.

Mbape has been playing as a striker for club(2021-present) and country(2023-present) Even if you put a striker like Endrick, Garcia, Ekitike, Thurman or whoever in their lineup, that striker is going straight to the wing. Like Henry, Mbape is allowed to drift to the LW position but he's never stationed there.

This Brazilian team is not good enough.

Kimbeast:
When has Dembele ever performed for France for all of you to be treating him as a guaranteed starter.

Right now he's a guaranteed starter for France and that's based on data not opinion. He even started the world cup final when he wasn't even this good.