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Janosky:
In the "Enjoy Life book, the point of emphasis "Some of these......"
Nah you go decide which one to accept or reject.
The book did not discuss ALL procedures.


The watchtower June 15,1978 article repeats the same counsel in the update #2... " It's your personal decision".

Your dancing round and round won't work. The earlier you admit it is a complete REVERSAL the better for you. More embarrassing situations ahead based on Lösch statement below..........

Neither does the bible say anything about medical use of blood, whether it is a person's blood, animal blood or blood from another person

After this expect watchtower article tell you that in context and content, Acts 15:29 has nothing to do with medical use of blood. By then shame will be embarrassed about you.

The enjoy life stated book stated.....

There are medical procedures that make use of a patient’s own blood. Some of these—such as a person donating blood or having his own blood stored in advance of surgery—are not acceptable for Christians.—Deuteronomy 15:23

I detect manipulations here....

Some of these......"

You dey fear to quote am? Some of what?

According to MaxInDHouse

Ọmọ JWs are never ever hurt because of betrayal

I wonder what pictures like the below portray 😂😂😂😂

correctguy101:
Come now.
Those aren't matters I'll say here. I could tell you in person though. But, I personally do not think it'll help you in anyway as I feel you might find it hard to believe. But if you check my posts on here properly, old posts mostly. You might have a clue.

Highlighted is what makes Jehovah's Witnesses different from all other people because we are always eager to pass lifesaving information to all those in our neighborhood even though such info may sound unreasonable to them.
This is what Jehovah our God said:

“Son of man, I have appointed you as a watchman to the house of Israel; and when you hear a word from my mouth, you must warn them from me." When I say to someone wicked, ‘You will surely die,’ but you do not warn him, and you fail to speak in order to warn the wicked one to turn from his wicked course so that he may stay alive, he will die for his error because he is wicked, but I will ask his blood back from you.  But if you warn someone wicked and he does not turn back from his wickedness and from his wicked course, he will die for his error, but you will certainly save your own life. But when someone righteous abandons his righteousness and does what is wrong, I will put a stumbling block before him and he will die. If you did not warn him, he will die for his sin and his righteous acts will not be remembered, but I will ask his blood back from you. But if you have warned the righteous one not to sin, and he does not sin, he will surely keep alive because he was warned, and you will have saved your own life.

Based on my own personal experience with blood transfusion i can never ever think of accepting it even at the point of death but just as you said you only save such info for those who needs it.🙂

Janosky:
Matthew 15:13 & 1 Timothy 5:24, Jehovah will have His way & do His will at the appropriate time.

These people have turned their backs on Jehovah completely so even though you show them scriptures that's saying exactly what they need to hear their eyes has been blinded and their ears stopped. Isaiah 6:9-10
Jesus said in the Bible book of Matthew 13:25:
"While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left."

Abeg who is the enemy and who are the weeds?

Jesus answered:

"As for the fine seed, these are the sons of the Kingdom, but the weeds are the sons of the wicked one" Matthew 13:38

Based on Jesus' illustration what do we say about God's holy spirit?
Will the sons of the wicked be hindered from becoming elders and ministerial servants?

So if they don't believe what happened to first century disciples of Christ when Satan's children became many among them as John said in the Bible {1John 2:18} how can they believe modern day servants of the true God? Luke 16:31

Ọmọ it's only those having insight (sheep) that can understand all these things the rebellious ones (goats) will never ever have a rethink meanwhile many of them don't believe the Bible again they are just arguing aimlessly as it makes them feel a relief from their spiritual torment! Luke 16:24🙂

achorladey:
I wonder what pictures like the below portray 😂😂😂😂

Are these pictures about betrayal or a child someone spent years to raise is living the house for uncertainty which the parents knew will lead to the child's destruction?
Ọmọ i'm talking about you who is in no way related to me just because you are studying the Bible and got baptized but suddenly choose to turn against all the things you learned and attack JWs.
How can that hurt me?
Aren't you a stranger to me from day one?
These are pictures of children leaving home or husband leaving his family not strangers who came and later decides to do what they were sent to come and do nah!🙂

Janosky:
In the "Enjoy Life book, the point of emphasis "Some of these......"
Nah you go decide which one to accept or reject.
[B] The book did not discuss ALL procedures. [/b]


The watchtower June 15,1978 article repeats the same counsel in the update #2... " It's your personal decision".

I'm talking about the ones it discuss.

Now listen again

"There are medical procedures that make use of a patient’s own blood. Some of these​— such as a person donating blood or having his own blood STORED ( emphasis mine) in advance of surgery—​are not acceptable for Christians. ​—Deuteronomy 15:23.

It said concerning the area of transfusions, Storing your blood in advance of surgery is not acceptable for Christians, Yes or no?

Janosky:
Matthew 15:13 & 1 Timothy 5:24, Jehovah will have His way & do His will at the appropriate time.

Matthew 15:13 states: "But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up"
The bolded,
Are you admitting those Appointment of Agents and Secret spies has Elders were not planted by God's holy spirit ?

Janosky:
[b] Take note of John 6:44, "no one comes to me unless my Father draws them".
Who drew the ones in Rev 2:14-15 & Rev 3:9 into the congregation promoting false teachings & immorality?
Most of them held positions of authority & their bad influence were pervasive.
Then in John's day and now.

However, Overseers are often appointed under the guidance of holy spirit.
It doesn't mean we can't lose guard ,like Samuel . 2 Sam 6:6-7.
Like most of the 7 congregations lose guard

when the scripture says no one comes to me except the Father draws them, it was proving the point that those who were drawn into the first century congregations were honest persons AT FIRST.

In fact here is a text from Act 13:48

The people who were not Jews were pleased with what they heard and praised the Lord's word. Everyone who had been prepared for everlasting life believed

This automatically Strike out the comparison you re making with the seven congregation!!!! , The Agents were never drawn by the Father, it was a Mission organized to imprison and Jail. Their appointment if anything proved the Appointment in the religion has nothing to do with holy spirit.

Now back to you admitting appointment in the JW can be lose guard on some appointments, I take it to mean you admitting There are many Elders among you who are not chosen by holy spirit.

And GB members are chosen from this pool of Elders. There is a serious problem!!! And low key it explain why so many policies cause harm to you members.

1 Timothy 5:24
"Some people’s sins are obvious, preceding them to judgment, but the sins of others surface later".

People with ulterior motives may attempt to sneak into positions of authority.
Jehovah who sees the heart would always expose such & flush them out in unexpected ways and means [/b].

Jehovah will do that only if the religion is his own and he appoint their leaders. In JW land, that's not the case. To use your words , a haven of "loseguard " appointments.

A set of GB members ban beard and trousers for many years, people were mistreated, ostracized over this . Hairy people suffered under this administrations, but this set of GB live their lives to the very end. Despite Making a WRONG UNSCRIPTURAL POLiCY, nothing happened to them.

Disfellowship persons were mistreated for years in the kingdom hall, sitting at the back, ignored, yet some set of GB members make that policy, they all live to the end of their life, until others came and said You can greet them now

Some members reject Education and scholarship that could have better their lives, now struggling financially, the people who cause this Hardship Were not weeded out, they lived as GB to the very end of their life. Enjoying travelling and attention


New set came and overturn the decision. The overturn proved it's a group of men becoming Elders and making their way to GB , to control millions of life's.

MaxInDHouse:
You are the most pitiable among these people because you don't know what is happening and instead of you to listen carefully to both side before judging you just decided to take side.
Well the only ground for disfellowship among us is outright rebellion not just error!😟

Not according to your own publications, adding to the pile of evidence that your religion is man made , aside appointing False spies proving no holy spirit in appointment.

How could so called men appointed by holy spirit do the error here ? Can u admit elders decision not guided by holy spirit ?

Going by this screenshot, how many such person were disfellowship in errors?

See below

*In the first century was the spirit of God working with Jesus when he chose Judas Iscariot to serve as an apostle?

*Was the spirit of God working with the disciples who performed many miracles only to turn their backs on Jesus whose name they used to perform miracles?

*Was the spirit of God working with the Elders when many brothers they taught and baptized turned out to be AntiChrists?

Jehovah's Witnesses aren't different from their first century counterpart so it's you who is expecting what is not possible:

PERFECTION!🙂

Floww23:
Not according to your own publications, adding to the pile of evidence that your religion is man made , aside appointing False spies proving no holy spirit in appointment.
How could so called men appointed by holy spirit do the error here ? Can u admit elders decision not guided by holy spirit ?
Going by this screenshot, how many such person were disfellowship in errors? See below

Ọmọ ṣee epistle simply to justify your rebellious attitude towards God's chosen men!🤔

I told you the reason why we BELIEVE in them:

The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are FULFILLING WHAT OUR GOD promised in the Bible regarding His anointed servants in our time.

So since they are not perfect surely they will make mistakes but that doesn't stop us from working with them as long as they are producing the FRUIT expected of God's chosen men! Matthew 7:15-20

Your crying and wailing won't change that!🙂

Floww23:
when the scripture says no one comes to me except the Father draws them, it was proving the point that those who were drawn into the first century congregations were honest persons AT FIRST.
In fact here is a text from Act 13:48
The people who were not Jews were pleased with what they heard and praised the Lord's word. Everyone who had been prepared for everlasting life believed
This automatically Strike out the comparison you re making with the seven congregation!!!! , The Agents were never drawn by the Father, it was a Mission organized to imprison and Jail. Their appointment if anything proved the Appointment in the religion has nothing to do with holy spirit.
Now back to you admitting appointment in the JW can be lose guard on some appointments, I take it to mean you admitting There are many Elders among you who are not chosen by holy spirit.
And GB members are chosen from this pool of Elders. There is a serious problem!!! And low key it explain why so many policies cause harm to you members.
Jehovah will do that only if the religion is his own and he appoint their leaders. In JW land, that's not the case. To use your words , a haven of "loseguard " appointments.
A set of GB members ban beard and trousers for many years, people were mistreated, ostracized over this . Hairy people suffered under this administrations, but this set of GB live their lives to the very end. Despite Making a WRONG UNSCRIPTURAL POLiCY, nothing happened to them.
Disfellowship persons were mistreated for years in the kingdom hall, sitting at the back, ignored, yet some set of GB members make that policy, they all live to the end of their life, until others came and said You can greet them now
Some members reject Education and scholarship that could have better their lives, now struggling financially, the people who cause this Hardship Were not weeded out, they lived as GB to the very end of their life. Enjoying travelling and attention
New set came and overturn the decision. The overturn proved it's a group of men becoming Elders and making their way to GB , to control millions of life's.

In the first century was Jesus' ministry without any complaints?

The answer is NO because most Jews weren't focusing on what the Apostles concentrated on which is prophesies that Jesus was fulfilling.

If anyone lived in the first century there is no way such a person can become a disciple of Christ if you are expecting PERFECTION without any loopholes the Apostles saw all the loopholes other Jews also noticed but they focused more on the prophecies that Jesus was fulfilling.

So today if anyone is concentrating on the loopholes regarding the works of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses we know where you belong and we know those that belong to our camp such ones will focus not on the loopholes but on prophecies fulfilled by this men!🙂

Floww23:
I'm talking about the ones it discuss.

Now listen again

"There are medical procedures that make use of a patient’s own blood. Some of these​— such as a person donating blood or having his own blood STORED ( emphasis mine) in advance of surgery—​are not acceptable for Christians. ​—Deuteronomy 15:23.

It said concerning the area of transfusions, Storing your blood in advance of surgery is not acceptable for Christians, Yes or no?

He purposely cut it short. He knows what comes after those words. He is in a nowhere to run and hide situation.

MaxInDHouse:
Are these pictures about betrayal or a child someone spent years to raise is living the house for uncertainty which the parents knew will lead to the child's destruction?
Ọmọ i'm talking about you who is in no way related to me just because you are studying the Bible and got baptized but suddenly choose to turn against all the things you learned and attack JWs.
How can that hurt me?
Aren't you a stranger to me from day one?
These are pictures of children leaving home or husband leaving his family not strangers who came and later decides to do what they were sent to come and do nah!🙂

Loooooool!

That una useless question when caught is laughable. When you go back to where those pictures are taken that your empty chest beating of

Ọmọ JWs are never ever hurt because of betrayal

Empty boasting.

Ọmọ i'm talking about you who is in no way related to me just because you are studying the Bible and got baptized but suddenly choose to turn against all the things you learned and attack JWs. How can that hurt me?

Nairaland na archives of your pains and lamentations regarding that.

Aren't you a stranger to me from day one?
These are pictures of children leaving home or husband leaving his family not strangers who came and later decides to do what they were sent to come and do nah

Elder that don't know where those pictures are sourced from.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ ṣee epistle simply to justify your rebellious attitude towards God's chosen men!🤔

I told you the reason why we BELIEVE in them:

The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are FULFILLING WHAT OUR GOD promised in the Bible regarding His anointed servants in our time.

So since they are not perfect surely they will make mistakes but that doesn't stop us from working with them as long as they are producing the FRUIT expected of God's chosen men! Matthew 7:15-20

Your crying and wailing won't change that!🙂

He is not using your airtime both the one subscribed to the phone and the one offered him by nairaland. When you come with your epistles we look at the epistles not your pains and lamentations over airtime

achorladey:
According to MaxInDHouse
I wonder what pictures like the below portray 😂😂😂😂

You're still taking that one serious?

Floww23:
when the scripture says no one comes to me except the Father draws them, it was proving the point that those who were drawn into the first century congregations were honest persons AT FIRST.

In fact here is a text from Act 13:48

The people who were not Jews were pleased with what they heard and praised the Lord's word. Everyone who had been prepared for everlasting life believed

This automatically Strike out the comparison you re making with the seven congregation!!!! , The Agents were never drawn by the Father, it was a Mission organized to imprison and Jail. Their appointment if anything proved the Appointment in the religion has nothing to do with holy spirit.

Now back to you admitting appointment in the JW can be lose guard on some appointments, I take it to mean you admitting There are many Elders among you who are not chosen by holy spirit.

And GB members are chosen from this pool of Elders. There is a serious problem!!! And low key it explain why so many policies cause harm to you members.



Jehovah will do that only if the religion is his own and he appoint their leaders. In JW land, that's not the case. To use your words , a haven of "loseguard " appointments.

A set of GB members ban beard and trousers for many years, people were mistreated, ostracized over this . Hairy people suffered under this administrations, but this set of GB live their lives to the very end. Despite Making a WRONG UNSCRIPTURAL POLiCY, nothing happened to them.

Disfellowship persons were mistreated for years in the kingdom hall, sitting at the back, ignored, yet some set of GB members make that policy, they all live to the end of their life, until others came and said You can greet them now

Some members reject Education and scholarship that could have better their lives, now struggling financially, the people who cause this Hardship Were not weeded out, they lived as GB to the very end of their life. Enjoying travelling and attention


New set came and overturn the decision. The overturn proved it's a group of men becoming Elders and making their way to GB , to control millions of life's.

You have done enough justice to this issue but as usual they'll keep jumping from one scripture to another to further their confusion.

Just wait when they bring Jesus Himself into this discussion.

Floww23:
Read up Australian Royal commission inquiries about Child abuse into the Jehovah's witnesses religion, a Big Case around 2016 that led to your organisation admitting in a watchtower study that child abusers are in the congregation

Many of you act like you are still living in 1990

I don't blame you, they only show you what they want you to see

When they lose in Norway, they didn't post anything on the website, when they won the appeal after lying and editing thier policies on disfellowship people , even deleting the Famous video Loyally uphold Jehovah's judgement - shun unrepentant wrongdoers. From their website, they quickly post the sham victory

Now that Norway went to Supreme court, they won't post if they end up losing. They are playing with your head

I am not a witness but whenever I start seeing Nigerians criticize a particular person or sect I become more inquisitive?
Why are u so bitter about witnesses and why haven't u spoken about churches looting offerings while members including u go to bed hungry.what it so special about witnesses that make everyone tries to see a tint on their shirt.

If u want to tackle religion let it be fair and everyone know that u are not partial because Nigerians criticize those they hate and cover the monsters and oppressors they love.

PaNnamdi:
I am not a witness but whenever I start seeing Nigerians criticize a particular person or sect I become more inquisitive?
Why are u so bitter about witnesses and why haven't u spoken about churches looting offerings while members including u go to bed hungry.what it so special about witnesses that make everyone tries to see a tint on their shirt.

If u want to tackle religion let it be fair and everyone know that u are not partial

because Nigerians criticize those they hate and cover the monsters and oppressors they love.

Get this well....

I am not a witness but whenever I start seeing Nigerians criticize a particular person or sect I become more inquisitive?

Which is a good thing to do. Criticism can be positive and negative right?

Why are u so bitter about witnesses

It means you see a person being criticised or an organisation being criticised as bitterness on the part of those criticising them. That's what you see, what we see is far different from bitterness. Our eye lens is different from yours.

and why haven't u spoken about churches looting offerings while members including u go to bed hungry

Na same mode of operation all of them dey use including that of Jehovah's witnesses, minor differences here and there. One member of Jehovah's witness here will tell you giving alms no dey part of their agenda paapaa. Abeg ooooo

what it so special about witnesses that make everyone tries to see a tint on their shirt.

Based on their own words, they said they are the only channel God is using to disseminate TRUTH in the world today. Since Christians are to examine the Scriptures well with what they say. When you see lies and manipulations of the scriptures you don't keep shut because they say God is using them. You confront them and hold them responsible as warning to those who will be deceived.

If u want to tackle religion let it be fair and everyone know that u are not partial because Nigerians criticize those they hate and cover the monsters and oppressors they love.

You see partiality where there is none. I can easily tell you Jehovah's witnesses criticise every other Christians in the world today giving them all sorts of names while they love the monsters called their religious leaders.

MaxInDHouse:
Are these pictures about betrayal or a child someone spent years to raise is living the house for uncertainty which the parents knew will lead to the child's destruction?
Ọmọ i'm talking about you who is in no way related to me just because you are studying the Bible and got baptized but suddenly choose to turn against all the things you learned and attack JWs.
How can that hurt me?
Aren't you a stranger to me from day one?
These are pictures of children leaving home or husband leaving his family not strangers who came and later decides to do what they were sent to come and do nah!🙂

Spiritual loss

Jehovah's discipline e.t.c.

Eyes you get, use am see 😂😂😂😂

They are fulfilling what is written in the scriptures! Matthew 5:11-12; 10:22

PaNnamdi:
I am not a witness but whenever I start seeing Nigerians criticize a particular person or sect I become more inquisitive?
Why are u so bitter about witnesses and why haven't u spoken about churches looting offerings while members including u go to bed hungry.what it so special about witnesses that make everyone tries to see a tint on their shirt.
If u want to tackle religion let it be fair and everyone know that u are not partial because Nigerians criticize those they hate and cover the monsters and oppressors they love.

MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted is what makes Jehovah's Witnesses different from all other people because we are always eager to pass lifesaving information to all those in our neighborhood even though such info may sound unreasonable to them.
This is what Jehovah our God said:

“Son of man, I have appointed you as a watchman to the house of Israel; and when you hear a word from my mouth, you must warn them from me." When I say to someone wicked, ‘You will surely die,’ but you do not warn him, and you fail to speak in order to warn the wicked one to turn from his wicked course so that he may stay alive, he will die for his error because he is wicked, but I will ask his blood back from you.  But if you warn someone wicked and he does not turn back from his wickedness and from his wicked course, he will die for his error, but you will certainly save your own life. But when someone righteous abandons his righteousness and does what is wrong, I will put a stumbling block before him and he will die. If you did not warn him, he will die for his sin and his righteous acts will not be remembered, but I will ask his blood back from you. But if you have warned the righteous one not to sin, and he does not sin, he will surely keep alive because he was warned, and you will have saved your own life.

Based on my own personal experience with blood transfusion i can never ever think of accepting it even at the point of death but just as you said you only save such info for those who needs it.🙂

Lols
You this man... I hear you. Lifesaving indeed..


SMH

Janosky:
You go wail tire , the children born of Jw parents will NEVER drop out of school or viable vocational training.

😁😁

Na una go wail tire because very soon, you will no longer recognize your organization, the light gets brighter. 😁

Today is Saturday, make sure you and MaxInDHouse go out for field service and make sure you tell your Bible students that they can now store blood.

Tell them the truth that those American leaders of yours in Warwick get things wrong from time to time and some JW members have died for nothing as a result of wrong doctrines on blood.

Be honest and straightforward. Don't hide anything or lie to them.

correctguy101:
Lols. You this man... I hear you. Lifesaving indeed..SMH

We are all humans and as humans we love to pass information to others in many cases we feel those listening to should welcome what we are saying.
I've known you in this forum for years and i know you do discuss with people so are you just chatting for fun or trying to pass good information?

MaxInDHouse:
We are all humans and as humans we love to pass information to others in many cases we feel those listening to should welcome what we are saying.
I've known you in this forum for years and i know you do discuss with people so are you just chatting for fun or trying to pass good information?

Oh...

What do you think? 😉

correctguy101:
Oh... What do you think? 😉

Well if i'm to judge by how i reason all commentators are trying to pass good information.

Am i right about you?🤔

MaxInDHouse:
Well if i'm to judge by how i reason all commentators are trying to pass good information.

Am i right about you?🤔

You could be... Lols

correctguy101:
You could be... Lols

Are you trying to say that some people just want to talk whether it's beneficial or not?

achorladey:
Your dancing round and round won't work. The earlier you admit it is a complete REVERSAL the better for you. More embarrassing situations ahead based on Lösch statement below..........



After this expect watchtower article tell you that in context and content, Acts 15:29 has nothing to do with medical use of blood. By then shame will be embarrassed about you.

The enjoy life stated book stated.....

There are medical procedures that make use of a patient’s own blood. Some of these—such as a person donating blood or having his own blood stored in advance of surgery—are not acceptable for Christians.—Deuteronomy 15:23

I detect manipulations here....





You dey fear to quote am? Some of what?

Don't mind these JWs. They are pretending that part of their Watchtower is not there. They are seeing that it is indeed a change. But because the embarrassment is too much and they are trying to make sense of it, they will come here to lie that this is not a change because they truly don't like their changes. It is very embarrassing.

MaxInDHouse:
Are you trying to say that some people just want to talk whether it's beneficial or not?

Like you don't know that already.


But take note that whatever is beneficial to anyone is mostly decided by the one receiving it.

correctguy101:
Like you don't know that already.
But take note that whatever is beneficial to anyone is mostly decided by the one receiving it.

Of course that is an indisputable fact yet the one giving must believe he is doing what is good otherwise he won't take it seriously?🤔

Floww23:
Explain this from Enjoy life forever book page 255

Suddenly, Deu 15:23 has disappeared from NWT. Reason why the theory of personal CHOICE has to be revealed again in 2026