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Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Hemanwel(m): 7:44pm On Mar 28
Omor...wait! Does the OP expect me to read all these epistles? Even a Master's thesis isn't as many...
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by lawani(m): 7:51pm On Mar 28
It is only what you consume that you pay for when you have a prepaid meter.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by blackslayer: 7:53pm On Mar 28
Imagine that? Having different tiers for horrendous service?! Only in black Africa!
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by untoldtruth: 8:12pm On Mar 28
OredoPikin2:
So we that gets less than 2hours per day is under which band?
Well Band E is supposed to get 4hrs per day gan, this one must be Band F (I'm being fully serious here, no jokes)
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by OredoPikin2: 8:21pm On Mar 28
untoldtruth:
Well Band E is supposed to get 4hrs per day gan, this one must be Band F (I'm being fully serious here, no jokes)
During the time of Buhari, we get nothing less than 15hours light a day
Now we are paying times 2 of what we paid under Buhari and we can't even get 2hours full current light a day.
It's really frustrating
And it's the same Lagos they said tinubu built.

Our community is waiting for anyone that will come and say we should vote anything Tinubu
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by BabaO2: 9:25pm On Mar 28
dawnomike:
I am on Band A and we still sometimes have up to 18hrs of electricity in a day....

I think my area is part of the lucky few this period because, I can only imagime how much it would have been costing me to run on generator everyday
sometimes?
stop fake big boy posing.
Know the content of the contract. Band A is a Nigerian thing, just a cheap way of extorting money.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by ChristianMuslim: 9:54pm On Mar 28
TINUBU MUST GO
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Alcatel17: 12:02am On Mar 29
Dynamicboss:
I get 18hrs everyday as band A customer and I have reported the idiots to FCCPC and NERC. Two days ago, I got an apology call from IKEDC top manager but that’s not enough because they repeatedly breach our service rights they communicated to provide for us
Please What is d procedure for alerting these 2 agencies?
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Gerrard59(m): 1:24am On Mar 29
nairalanda1:
Well, what did you all expect.

1.Your government under GEJ privatises power in 2013, and then takes the power of setting their prices away from them and places it in government hands.

2. Government then promised to pay subsidies to cover the losses that would result, and then forgets to pay most of them

3. Since power companies cannot charge a cost reflective tarrif, as a result, they lose a lot of money, and the subsidy payments that do come cannot cover their losses completely. They are forced to borrow from the banks to survive.

4. Also, the discos engage in ripping off customers from estimated billing to bill inflation

When government is setting your prices, the result is scarcity, corruption and inefficency.

(As an example, in Poland, from 1945-1990, government set the prices of food below what it cost the farmers to produce it. The result was food scarcity, shortages, long queues at shops for things like bread and eggs and milk!..and so forth. But once the Solidarity government removed the prices set by the Communist party of poland, and allowed farmers set their prices, the result was that while prices shot up, there was an abundance of food in the shops and market. TOday, no queues in poland for food.)

5. Before you say it is all GEJ's fault, Buhari came in, and maintained the price controls. Tinubu too came in and maintained the price controls

6. Add the problems of massive power theft, and bypassing of meters (60% of metered consumers as at 2025), and the result is a power sector that is losing money, struggling to surive and cannot pay for gas

7.The result is for the nth time, the gas companies have totally refused to supply gas to the gencos. They want their money, all over 10 trillion naira worth of it, including 6-8 trillion owed by government in subsidy payments dating from 2014.

8. When the discos and gencos were NEPA, it was the same story.

9. So, since the gencos cannot pay for gas, and they cannot raise enough funds from the discos, the result is that Band A cannot get light because the gencos and discos are so broke that they can't even survive without ripping off consumers.


Lack of a cost reflective tarrif caused all this. Saying that it is tinubu or gej is basically saying that tinubu andGEJ have been ruling this country since 1978.


I am not here to convince you to support tinubu, I am here to show you why the situation is bad. Please for god's sake vote out tinubu, but don't expect your new leader to bring back light unless Nigerians rich and poor pay a cost reflective tarrif. ALL OF THEM, Not just band A.
Thank you for the detailed breakdown. Now, I see where the problem comes from - government setting prices, which shouldn't be the case.

Mr IbeOkehie is correct: the problem of Nigerians is their socialist nature. An ethnic heterogeneous socialist country cannot be prosperous.

Mr IbeOkehie, take your flowers. It's well deserved!
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by GravityDefier: 3:26am On Mar 29
A topic like this is supposed to be under the crime section. Why should this be under politics section. Please the mods should take note.

Now, over to the topic, it's not today Nigeria has been selling darkness to her Citizens 😔. Giant of Africa darkness
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Dynamicboss: 7:14am On Mar 29
Alcatel17:
Please What is d procedure for alerting these 2 agencies?
Visit their website and lodge your complaint at the complaint session. Also, back it up with follow up mail to them and copy ikedc
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Adonispco: 7:19am On Mar 29
udeh3:
Here in Dawaki Abuja, we pay N225/kWh and for sometime now, power have been epileptic in nature
Band A N225 for Abuja while we in Aba pays N235 but Aba power na Oga for this country.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Paragon311(m): 7:48am On Mar 29
OredoPikin2:
So we that gets less than 2hours per day is under which band?
You're a Bandit under power supply
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by persius555(m): 8:11am On Mar 29
LeeSmart:
Only in Nigeria will people be segregated just to have electricity. How is this even different from the racist whites?
This is president tinubu's leadership legacy. This is the same way he ruled as Lagos governor. He is someone who believes strongly in extreme classism.

In a nutshell, he believes 150million sacrificing their economic wellness for a few millions is only fair to humanity. He's not the type that can lead Nigeria out of economic doldrum.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by calabaman(m): 10:14am On Mar 29
Band A... Aba Road

Works well in ikot ekpene, akwaibom state.

Funny enough house rent along band A routes is super expensive.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Bukola94(m): 12:19pm On Mar 29
fineboynl:
Band A is nothing but a scam. Band A people are waiting for the election.

Despite paying higher. The agreement of the deal which was forced on them by the government. The government refused to keep it agreement of the bargain.

By now every band a should have been cancelled until the fix themselves and their grid.
LOL , at band A people waiting for election. If Nigerians should vote based on that, it is only 15 to 20percentage that will vote for them, those living in urban areas, industrial area and maybe some universities campus
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Bukola94(m): 12:25pm On Mar 29
Lovit:
Tell me one reason Lagos state is still on the national grid?

if Abia could do it, why is the almighty Lagos still in darkness?
The funny thing is, Tinubu want to do it then, OBJ no agree, during their power tussle and rivalry, OBJ delayed or maybe seized Lagos allocation back then. Tinubu don't have good advisors or maybe they advise him, he no dey agreed. If Sanwolu is smart and bold, he should tell the reps and senators from is side to table the issue to Mr President and heard is response
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by udeh3(m): 3:39pm On Mar 29
Adonispco:
Band A N225 for Abuja while we in Aba pays N235 but Aba power na Oga for this country.
Power is very constant here in Dawaki, except for few days now... At least, before now, you're very sure of 18hrs, but, not any more for about few days now

For Aba, I'm super happy to the good people of Abia State
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by WiseBizInvestor(f): 6:31pm On Mar 29
🤔
LeeSmart:
Only in Nigeria will people be segregated just to have electricity. How is this even different from the racist whites?
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Love800(m): 7:45pm On Mar 29
What is the meaning of 33 if I may ask?
I use to hear the word all the time.

For example, someone will just say he/she is on 33. What does it mean?
Jakarta:
It happens in certain areas, in my current area we average around 18 - 20 hours daily on band A, except there is a grid collapse. Although we performed the duties of DisCos ourselves. Like buying transformers, electric poles, wires, and post paid meters, we are still responsible for maintenance. But we won't be paying our light bills for a very long time until our expenses are refunded by discos. I use both band A and E and band E haven't witness even 2 hours of power supply for over 7 months now.

That aside, I think these Discos, and Gencos are exploiting customers and government officials are aware of it. Corruption has eaten deep into our power industry.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Jakarta: 8:39pm On Mar 29
Love800:
What is the meaning of 33 if I may ask?
I use to hear the word all the time.

For example, someone will just say he/she is on 33. What does it mean?
Line 33kv lines are those power lines that are on high towers below those gigantic tower lines. They are used to transmit power over long distance. A popular company in Sapele back then named Enternit used these lines to transfer power from ughelli to their company feeders in Sapele Delta state. People are mistaking Band A for this same 33kv lines. Sometimes they will say they are on line 11, which are lines that transfer power to our transformers. In Sapele, Warri, Ughelli, Oghara, Mosogar all in Delta state people call it line 33/11 industrial line but they are all on band A not 33.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by nairalanda1(m): 6:23am On Mar 30
LeeSmart:
Only in Nigeria will people be segregated just to have electricity. How is this even different from the racist whites?
It's because most of you don't want to pay cost reflective tarrifs at all.

All of you pay cost reflective tarrifs for GSM and thus as a result there is no segregation at all by band there.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by LeeSmart: 7:41am On Mar 30
nairalanda1:
It's because most of you don't want to pay cost reflective tarrifs at all.

All of you pay cost reflective tarrifs for GSM and thus as a result there is no segregation at all by band there.
Owkay official APC spokesperson
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by nairalanda1(m): 8:46am On Mar 30
LeeSmart:
Owkay official APC spokesperson
grin

The minute someone says something you guys do not like, you start calling them APC supporter.

You should not marry that girl...APC supporter
You should not register for that course...APC supporter
You should find something better to do with your time...APC supporter.

It's like you don't want to even engage with fresh ideas or things that are different from what you have.

You should learn that in life people are never going to agree with you about most things.

Good morning. I hope this comment enables you to mature more

FYI...I don't support APC or PDP, and my views on cost reflective tarrifs date back from 2013, thanks to my reading about power privatization under GEJ, and how much it would really cost to fix power, which helped me understand why he was privatising power then. Back then, a tinubu supporter would have said what you are saying...that I am a PDP supporter.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by lionshare: 12:57pm On Mar 30
Fujiyama:
^^^
Perhaps you need to explain what you mean by 'most'. Do you have access to the entire customer database of all the DISCOs?

I will speak for myself. I was placed on band A several months ago and the last time the DISCO met the 20 hour minimum for 3 straight days was the middle of last year. undecided My community is up in arms about this matter at the moment and the DISCO is still giving excuses.



^^^
Fair enough.

While we are at it, I think we should also privatize 'national security' and allow private military contractors (duly vetted and registered of course) to do army (and police) work. After all, the same management problems that afflicted NNPC in the oil sector and the old NEPA in the power sector (price controls, subsidies) are very much present in the armed forces, the NPF etc. But strangely, there are no takers for this suggestion.
Yes, I do—and you can too.
From my experience, communities without enough supply fear downgrading. If your Band A supply isn’t up to par, what’s the guarantee for Band B? Many have learned this the hard way. So, while you’re pushing for a downgrade, others push back—it’s better to have guaranteed prepaid supply on Band A than nothing on lower bands.
I’m very pragmatic: If we can prove privatizing national security eliminates insecurity, especially terrorism, then let’s do it.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Love800(m): 1:00pm On Mar 30
Thanks so much.

So 33 is different from band A?

But its people who are in 33 that usually have light the most times just like band A.
So what is the difference?
Jakarta:
Line 33kv lines are those power lines that are on high towers below those gigantic tower lines. They are used to transmit power over long distance. A popular company in Sapele back then named Enternit used these lines to transfer power from ughelli to their company feeders in Sapele Delta state. People are mistaking Band A for this same 33kv lines. Sometimes they will say they are on line 11, which are lines that transfer power to our transformers. In Sapele, Warri, Ughelli, Oghara, Mosogar all in Delta state people call it line 33/11 industrial line but they are all on band A not 33.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Fujiyama: 1:45pm On Mar 30
lionshare:
From my experience, communities without enough supply fear downgrading. If your Band A supply isn’t up to par, what’s the guarantee for Band B? Many have learned this the hard way. So, while you’re pushing for a downgrade, others push back—it’s better to have guaranteed prepaid supply on Band A than nothing on lower bands.
^^^
I (and some others in the same boat) wasn't even pushing for a downgrade - or at least, not yet.

We simply provided the hard evidence to the regulator that the DISCO hasn't delivered on its guaranteed 20 hour minimum (daily) supply - since last year. The DISCO's immediate reaction was to get defensive, before putting the blame on inadequate gas supply, inadequate rainfall, inadequate sunshine, harmattan, 'Kainji Dam is empty', 'Yankari Game Reserve is underfunded' etc. undecided We are still dragging the matter.

Delivering the goods to band A customers would have been the perfect way to demonstrate the effectiveness of a market based solution to customers on the other bands. But BAT's tambourine shaking, trumpet blasting, federal minister of power couldn't get even that done. Talk about a wasted opportunity. undecided

lionshare:
I’m very pragmatic: If we can prove privatizing national security eliminates insecurity, especially terrorism, then let’s do it.
^^^
At least you are even willing to consider the idea. A lot of those who favour privatization in other parts of the economy are (strangely) not ready to consider the idea of doing the same for defence or national security - both notoriously inefficient cost centres.

Some countries already have private prisons. Some countries rely heavily on private military contractors to prosecute their wars. If telecoms, power, petroleum etc. in Nigeria can all be privatized/commercialised/deregulated, then why not defence/national security? Disband this standing army and get rid of all the costs that come with it - and engage private military contractors on a 'need to' basis.

But of course, this idea won't get any traction and we all know why.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Jakarta: 5:44pm On Mar 30
Love800:
Thanks so much.

So 33 is different from band A?

But its people who are in 33 that usually have light the most times just like band A.
So what is the difference?
33 is different from band A, 33 (33kv) is meant for distribution of electricity. Although people on 33kv lines tend to have more stable electricity, but that is determined on the band you are, you can be on 33 and still not have constant electricity if you are on band D or E.
33 is the road a very good road at that, your band is the VIP access to the goodies that the road has to offer.

33 + band A = very stable, high voltage, and reliable electricity and nothing like up NEPA because there is always light.

33 - band A = very frequent up NEPA moments, Junior Oya plug the rechargeable fan, power bank, and my phone fast before NEPA carry light.

11 + band A = Reliable light, but constant abeg John 33 user una get light? John responds yes, me we no get oh, maybe this wire don burn again oh or our pole don break fall again.

11 - band A = Junior Dem never bring light since morning? Junior response no Dem only Flash AM but e no pass 20 mins Dem seize am again.
Re: Band A Customers Pay More For Darkness by Love800(m): 7:46pm On Mar 30
I really appreciate.

But atleast its still better for one to be on 33, whether band A or Z.
Jakarta:
33 is different from band A, 33 (33kv) is meant for distribution of electricity. Although people on 33kv lines tend to have more stable electricity, but that is determined on the band you are, you can be on 33 and still not have constant electricity if you are on band D or E.
33 is the road a very good road at that, your band is the VIP access to the goodies that the road has to offer.

33 + band A = very stable, high voltage, and reliable electricity and nothing like up NEPA because there is always light.

33 - band A = very frequent up NEPA moments, Junior Oya plug the rechargeable fan, power bank, and my phone fast before NEPA carry light.

11 + band A = Reliable light, but constant abeg John 33 user una get light? John responds yes, me we no get oh, maybe this wire don burn again oh or our pole don break fall again.

11 - band A = Junior Dem never bring light since morning? Junior response no Dem only Flash AM but e no pass 20 mins Dem seize am again.
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