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Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by Fujiyama: 12:35pm On Mar 29
Heffalump:
The problem is, why so much emphasis on the walkout without considering the ill mannered behavior of the referee? There's what is called "cause and effect" in science. Something happens and it triggers a reaction. Don't overlook the cause and concentrate only on the reaction. Else, you will be biased in judgement.
^^^
Unfortunately, the rules for players are different from the rules for referees.

If a referee makes bad decisions during a game, the team that has been wronged may lodge an appeal...but more often than not, that will not change the match results. There may be some internal investigation and some vague 'disciplinary' action may be taken, but that's about it.

For players on the other hand, the rules are different. If a player elbows an opponent and the offence isn't caught by officials until after the game, he will still be suspended and fined. If the number of players engaged in 'misconduct' is large enough, then the match results can be changed (as we have seen in this Morocco vs Senegal case). If an entire squad walks off during a match, there will be consequences after the match (as Senegal has found out).

This whole mess certainly isn't a good look for football and even the Moroccans have said they don't want any boardroom victory. But the governing bodies want to discourage walkouts in future so they will send a strong message.

Let's wait for the arbitration guys to rule...although I suspect they will uphold the ruling...or order a re-match (possible, but highly unlikely).
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by Fujiyama: 12:37pm On Mar 29
Druss:
It should have been enforced that day. They waited 2 months. That decision has made a mockery of the tournament.
^^^
You do have a point.

That delay has proved very, very costly.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by GanagiBitrus: 12:41pm On Mar 29
Lifestone:
That his decision was emotional. Withdrawal from tournament should be a National decision. Imagine Chelle pulling Nigeria out of the final of a tournament without consultation. He bleeped up
Football elicits a lot of emotions from fans.
Even here in Nigeria Chelsea & Arsenal fans who don't have any direct stake in the clubs fight & injure themselves over mere arguments.

The Coach deserved to be sanctioned, nothing more. He remains a hero in Senegal, & rightly so.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by Fujiyama: 12:42pm On Mar 29
Fiscus105:
Since they walked out, they weren't supposed to let them walking in to continue the game.

But the same Caf allowed them to finish the game, after Senegal won on the pitch, and the cup and handed over to them, in present of Caf and FIFA presidents, you now come after 2 months to cancel it.

Nonsense at the peak.
^^^
You do have a point.

The decision should have been made there and then. The delay has now proved very costly and there are no winners as things stand. Senegal is defiantly holding on and if they are stripped off the cup, they will always be seen as having been cheated by CAF. Morocco on its part, doesn't want any part of a tainted boardroom victory - as some of their key players have said publicly.

Its a pity.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by Lifestone(m): 12:43pm On Mar 29
GanagiBitrus:
Football elicits a lot of emotions from fans.
Even here in Nigeria Chelsea & Arsenal fans who don't have any direct stake in the clubs fight & injure themselves over mere arguments.

The Referee deserved to be sanctioned, nothing more. He remains a hero in Senegal, & rightly so.
Yinmu. Emotion is a grave enemy of rational decisions
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by obaidan: 12:44pm On Mar 29
I like as dem use that silly organization CAF to catch cruise
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by GanagiBitrus:
Lifestone:
Yinmu. Emotion is a grave enemy of rational decisions
Why is an entire Country thrown into wild jubilations when a Trophy is won? Even when 1kobo may not enter your pocket?
Is there anything rational about that?

Football would be dead without emotions; you can't seperate the two.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by mctech(m): 1:28pm On Mar 29
esnbrutality:
If its NIGERIA you hear nonsense like we are big brother. See countries passionately defending themselves.
If it were Nigeria, someone would have approached Morocco for bribe to help them steal the trophy.

Nigerians are loyal only to themselves.

Poverty has conditioned the minds of Nigerians.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by Kalulu44: 1:42pm On Mar 29
I'm not in support of CAF o, but the truth is Senegal must return the trophy whether they like it or not before the next Afcon.
And if by then CAS hasn't done with their investigation. I want to see how CAF will give them the replica which is the normal procedure
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by ZaddyJ: 2:19pm On Mar 29
esnbrutality:
If its NIGERIA you hear nonsense like we are big brother. See countries passionately defending themselves.
Trust na only northerners get this courage and will to defend their right but u see the other region na who wan die for Nigeria go be their fear.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by ALLNIGERIANSMAD(m): 2:23pm On Mar 29
esnbrutality:
If its NIGERIA you hear nonsense like we are big brother. See countries passionately defending themselves.
They endup making Senegal more popular
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by ALLNIGERIANSMAD(m): 2:23pm On Mar 29
esnbrutality:
If its NIGERIA you hear nonsense like we are big brother. See countries passionately defending themselves.
They endup making Senegal more popular.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by ALLNIGERIANSMAD(m): 2:25pm On Mar 29
Fujiyama:
^^^
You do have a point.

That delay has proved very, very costly.
you both don't have a point, you mean fraud should have been enforced?
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by TommyAnthem(m): 3:01pm On Mar 29
If CAF decides to sanction Senegal, they should just pull out and look for other African countries to join and form a parallel FA. Many will be willing to join, enough of this north African countries pushing CAF up and down like wheelbarrow.
If not for the uproar, Morocco would have gladly accepted it.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by femi4: 3:04pm On Mar 29
esnbrutality:
If its NIGERIA you hear nonsense like we are big brother. See countries passionately defending themselves.
Yinmu
Nigeria withrew from afcon 96, ignored CAF threat of afcon ban after they failed to defend their Afcon title in 96
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by EndBuhariNow(m): 3:27pm On Mar 29
You lose woefully on the pitch and want to win off pitch are you normal.. this Moroccans are not reasoning properly... Shame no dey their face walihi
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by GanagiBitrus: 3:29pm On Mar 29
Princedapace:
People dont understand walk out was bad. So, make all teams dey walk out if they feel the referee didnt officiate well.
You speak out of ignorance. Let me help you.

The punishment for a WALK-OUT is loss of the match +Sanctions, but the Referee must 1st declare a WALK-OUT. It's a Referee's on-field decision & there are conditions for it.

Sadio Mane stayed back urging his players to return, so the Referee obviously decided that their PROTEST did not get to the point to declare a WALK-OUT.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by GanagiBitrus: 3:33pm On Mar 29
Fujiyama:
^^^
grin



^^^
But it seems there is a law prohibiting walkouts.

The final decision rests with the arbitration guys but if there's a law forbidding it (and CAF decides to enforce), there isn't much that can be done, is there?
Some of you speak out of ignorance.

The punishment for a WALK-OUT is loss of the match +Sanctions, but the Referee must 1st declare a WALK-OUT. It's a Referee's on-field decision & there are conditions for it.

Sadio Mane stayed back urging his players to return, so the Referee obviously decided that their PROTEST did not get to the point to declare a WALK-OUT.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by Princedapace(m): 3:42pm On Mar 29
GanagiBitrus:
You speak out of ignorance. Let me help you.

The punishment for a WALK-OUT is loss of the match +Sanctions, but the Referee must 1st declare a WALK-OUT. It's a Referee's on-field decision & there are conditions for it.

Sadio Mane stayed back urging his players to return, so the Referee obviously decided that their PROTEST did not get to the point to declare a WALK-OUT.
Go and read the article law that the board referenced. There must be purnishment for this else, every country will be doing same. Football normally is full of human errors. There have been countless of them in EPL, champions league, World cup. Players should never disgrace the competition with such protest else every other country will try same. That was why the punishement was melted at them.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by GanagiBitrus: 3:51pm On Mar 29
Princedapace:
Go and read the article law that the board referenced. There must be purnishment for this else, every country will be doing same. Football normally is full of human errors. There have been countless of them in EPL, champions league, World cup. Players should never disgrace the competition with such protest else every other country will try same. That was why the punishement was melted at them.
There is punishment for a WALK-OUT - Loss of match (+Sanctions), but the Referee MUST FIRST DECLARE A WALK-OUT, before such punishment is effected.

It is purely a Referee's on-field decision, &not one to be decided in a boardroom, after the match.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by victorazyvictor(m): 4:00pm On Mar 29
CodeTemplar:
link?
I don't think your current.

Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by Princedapace(m): 4:23pm On Mar 29
GanagiBitrus:
There is punishment for a WALK-OUT - Loss of match (+Sanctions), but the Referee MUST FIRST DECLARE A WALK-OUT, before such punishment is effected.

It is purely a Referee's on-field decision, &not one to be decided in a boardroom, after the match.
Sorry, the CAF article didn't say that. Such decision is left with the board that made it.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by CodeTemplar: 4:59pm On Mar 29
victorazyvictor:
I don't think your current.
stop acting senile. Hakimi is not Morocco.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by victorazyvictor(m): 5:13pm On Mar 29
CodeTemplar:
stop acting senile. Hakimi is not Morocco.
This Ogbomosho boy again grin
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by Negro1986(m): 6:59pm On Mar 29
That is how it is supposed to be , Senegal are the rightful winners and owners of that trophy regardless of what the CAF clowns 🤡 do, actually it is becoming comedic like the kind of things you see in Amakom Tv YouTube 🤡🤩😂
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by IbileIfe: 9:21pm On Mar 29
jmoore:
CAF was bribed by Morroco.
CAF is a corrupt Mafia.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by JobAndVacancies: 10:36pm On Mar 29
DeclanR:
You're not current bro.
Morroco rejected the trophy already
only Achraf Hakimi rejected
StPete:
Morocco did not. It was Hakimi that rejected it not the entire Moroccan team
exactly
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by Pacesetter123(m): 8:45am On Mar 30
Lifestone:
Walahi, I have been wondering where the Coach derived such power to single handedly take such a crucial decision on behalf of his country.
He didn't consider so many things beyond on pitch football. The impact on diplomacy and sportsmanship.
Which kind impact on diplomacy and sportsmanship are you talking about?

The man did the right thing at that moment and that action was what helped them win the cup.
The coach supposed to be given a National Honour for his bravery in the face of organized oppression.
So I don't know what you are talking about.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by Pacesetter123(m): 8:52am On Mar 30
Lifestone:
Following the rule is part of sportsmanship!
Senegal should have played according to the rules, because the rules are part of the game, you can't separate it
The Senegalese actually exhibited sportsmanship by following the rules of the game by playing the match to the end.
Is 120 minutes football action on the pitch a joke to you?
Do you have a different personal rules for them to follow other than the ones CAF, through her referee implemented in that final match?
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by Pacesetter123(m): 9:01am On Mar 30
Mrexcell:
All these are unesessary they should first wait for the CAS decision before all these.
No,it is rather very necessary.
They have already said when CAS gives its verdict ordering them to return the cup that they will obey.
So, for the mean time, the cup is theirs and they have every right to enjoy it while it last.
After all,they suffered for it for full 120 minutes in the pitch.
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by Pacesetter123(m): 9:12am On Mar 30
Lifestone:
I think you should go and read the rule books. There are decisions that is outside the prerogative of the referees. Once Senegal walked out, they lost the match.
So you know the rules more than the CAF president that was there that day sanctioning the decision of the referee not awarding the cup to Morocco on the ground of technicality?
Or you know football rules more than the FIFA president that was there that day that also helped in the presentation of the medals to the Senegalese national team as the authentic winner of the tournament based on referee's decision?
Re: Defiant Senegal Display Afcon Trophy Before Beating Peru In Friendly by RillJ(m): 10:13am On Mar 30
MOROCCO CALL CAF SHARPALY

MORO: Hello sir!
CAF: Hello! Who is on the line please?
MORO: Oga na me nah!
b]CAF[/b]: Who please?
MORO: Ah! Oga you don delete my number?
b]CAF[/b]: Please identify yourself, otherwise I need to attend to more important things.
MORO: Oga, na your boy nah, Morocco.
b]CAF[/b]: Okay. What can I do for you?
MORO Come see Senegal just dey display the AFCON wey you suppose give us. They even dey boast say nothing dey happen! Abeg
send your enforcement Team make dem come collect the CUP from Senegal hand before them go hide am again
b]CAF[/b]: Hello! Hello!.................
MORO I can hear you very well. I say make you come collect the CUP from Senegal hand as you promise
b]CAF[/b]: Hello! Hello!.................! the network is vey bad. cuts the call
MORO angry angry angry shocked shocked shocked
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