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QuinQ:
We,are NOT discussing Jesus. We are discussing the BENEFITS OF WAR. You are the one who asked what they are in capitals. You are also the one who said there are none - without mentioning Jesus

Because i believe in Jesus who taught his disciples that nothing good comes out of war!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
If you already think there is nothing good in what Jesus has to say on the subject why did you quote me in the first place?
You've always said evil things about me for sticking to whatever Jesus taught and i'm ok with that after all Jesus said you people will do exactly what people like you did to him to his disciples. Matthew 10:24-25
What really baffles me is that it's a Pope whose religion has been known for wars in the past that outrightly condemned war yet you want to accuse me for holding onto that opinion!🤔

You made no reference to Jesus whatsoever when you were asking the BENEFITS OF WAR. Now that you've lost the argument you're all about Jesus! Wehdone

MaxInDHouse:
Because i believe in Jesus who taught his disciples that nothing good comes out of war!🙂

So next time say "Jesus taught his disciples...". Don't independently and arrogantly state there are no benefits to war, when the benefits are right there, starring you in the face!

QuinQ:
You made no reference to Jesus whatsoever when you were asking the BENEFITS OF WAR. Now that you've lost the argument you're all about Jesus! Wehdone

Do you believe in Jesus?
Well that's the king who commanded his own disciples never to resort to war so if you see any group telling you they don't believe in war you should think of Jesus who laid down the rule for his own disciples that is if you do consider him before making decisions!🙂

If you believe there are real benefits in war are you saying Jesus doesn't know what he is saying?🙂

QuinQ:
So next time say "Jesus taught his disciples...". Don't independently and arrogantly state there are no benefits to war, when the benefits are right there, starring you in the face!

Kobojunkie:
The Bible God made it definitively clear He is God of Israel. Stop mistaking him for something else. 🥱🥱🥱

So, he is not God of Nigeria?

MaxInDHouse:
If you believe there are real benefits in war are you saying Jesus doesn't know what he is saying?🙂

There's a difference between saying authoritatively, "If someone rapes a daughter of yours you should also give him the other daughter to rape" and saying "Jesus implied that if someone rapes a daughter of yours you should also give him the other daughter to rape"
Likewise:
"A rich man will never go to heaven" and "Jesus implied a rich man will never go to heaven"

Same God directed many leaders to wage war. Pope miss this one.

Denalarian:
See jab.. let wait for trump's reply

Trump would do that with utmost respect

Go and teach whoever listens to you, as for wars Jesus taught his friends never to raise weapons against anyone be it friend or foe! Matthew 5:43-48

QuinQ:
There's a difference between saying authoritatively, "If someone rapes a daughter of yours you should also give him the other daughter to rape" and saying "Jesus implied that if someone rapes a daughter of yours you should also give him the other daughter to rape"
Likewise:
"A rich man will never go to heaven" and "Jesus implied a rich man will never go to heaven"

MaxInDHouse:
Go and teach whoever listens to you as for wars Jesus taught his friends never to raise weapons against anyone be it friend or foe! Matthew 5:43-48

My friend you can't be dishonestly selective and deceptive about the words of Lord Jesus. It is really annoying!
Jesus said "Love your enemies; do good to those who want to harm you" yet you shun innocent people to suicide and promptly call police if a hostile crowd surrounds your KH - instead of coming out and "doing good" to them! Your hypocrisy stinks to high heavens

Jesus said we should shun rebellious people not our enemies but since you don't know the difference then i will help you.

Rebellious people are those who have learned what we teach, openly declared it as the best but later chose to turn against the same teachings.

Our enemies are people who don't even know what they are doing!🙂

QuinQ:
My friend you can't be dishonestly selective and deceptive about the words of Lord Jesus. It is really annoying!
Jesus said "Love your enemies; do good to those who want to harm you" yet you shun innocent people to suicide and promptly call police if a hostile crowd surrounds your KH - instead of coming out and "doing good" to them! Your hypocrisy stinks to high heavens

He should just refer to Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said we should shun rebellious people not our enemies but since you don't know the difference then i will help you.

Rebellious people are those who have learned what we teach, openly declared it as the best but later chose to turn against the same teachings.

Our enemies are people who don't even know what they are doing!🙂

I'm not sure u read all my post u quoted. Here it is again, without the shunning (so u won'tbe distracted(. Respond to it.:

My friend you can't be dishonestly selective and deceptive about the words of Lord Jesus. It is really annoying!
Jesus said "Love your enemies; do good to those who want to harm you" yet you promptly call police if a hostile crowd surrounds your KH - instead of coming out and "doing good" to them! Your hypocrisy stinks to high heavens

And since you're a total purist about words of Christ, also tell us what you'll do if someone rapes one of your two daughters (what's implied by "turn the other cheek for him to also slap" in that scenario)

So US +ISRAEL can't defeat small IRAN

QuinQ:
I'm not sure u read all my post u quoted. Here it is again, without the shunning (so u won'tbe distracted(. Respond to it.:
My friend you can't be dishonestly selective and deceptive about the words of Lord Jesus. It is really annoying!
Jesus said "Love your enemies; do good to those who want to harm you" yet you promptly call police if a hostile crowd surrounds your KH - instead of coming out and "doing good" to them! Your hypocrisy stinks to high heavens

Shunning comes from Jesus' teaching.
He commanded that if a dispute arises between two believers (both are Christians) one who feels offended should approach the offender and table the matter, if the offender admit his wrong then the offended has gained back his brother in faith {Matthew 18:15} but if the offender is adamant claiming he is right then the offended should take another believer with him so they can convince him to apologize but if he still disagree then the matter will be taken to the elders (representing Christ) whatever makes the offender disagree with the body of elders then he should be shunned just as Jews do to tax collectors among them! Matthew 18:16-17
That is how shunning or disfellowship was established by Christ himself and from that time disciples of Christ were shunning unrepentant wrongdoers! Romans 16:17; Titus 3:7; 2John 1:10-11

But the enemies of faith aren't our own enemies for real.
Why?
The animosity they have against us isn't about us in person rather it's against the faith (our beliefs) so we should love them by doing everything manly possible to help them know the reason for our strong faith! Matthew 5:43-48 compare to 24:9

QuinQ:
And since you're a total purist about words of Christ, also tell us what you'll do if someone rapes one of your two daughters (what's implied by "turn the other cheek for him to also slap" in that scenario)

It's not WORD but UNDERSTANDING.

When Jesus talked about a slap he was referring to disrespect or ridicule we all know that a slap is not meant to hurt but to humiliate so as Christians we will shock the haughty one by proving to be the most lowly after all he that is down already need fear no fall.

So my guy humble yourself and learn if you want to but if not there is no need giving yourself any stress nobody is forcing faith on you!🙂

Kobojunkie:
Wow ... Is the Pope here suggesting the the Catholic gods did not support the Crusade wars despite the Catholic Popes promising all those who volunteered to push back the Islamic invaders from Catholic nations entry into the Catholic paradise? 🥱🥱🥱

Bultwo:
So, he is not God of Nigeria?

Most deities, including those worshipped by your very ancestors, were localized in that they seem focused on particular bloodlines or peoples. The God of Israel is recorded to be the same. 🥱🥱

I can bet you that even the gods you worship are the same. 🥱🥱

Pay attention...i did not say Crusade Wars...I said Crusaders. They did not just fight Christian vs Muslim. The church's sanctioned army removed Christian kings. I am not here to keep arguing back and forth. The Catholic Church sanctioned killings and blood...That is the POINT and don't try to deviate from it.

Kobojunkie:
The Crusade Wars refer specifically to the wwrs fought against colonialism by the Catholic church. Go read up your history. 🥱🥱

MasterTeeUSA:
Pay attention...i did not say Crusade Wars...I said Crusaders. They did not just fight Christian vs Muslim. The church's sanctioned army removed Christian kings. I am not here to keep arguing back and forth. The Catholic Church sanctioned killings and blood...That is the POINT and don't try to deviate from it.

My particular response to you centered around the Crusade.... the wars... not the groups or lives who fought the wars and what happened after the fact. 🤔

erniok:
Solomon didn't have to fight. King David had subdued the other nations.

Read your Bible again

Alikoooooooooo:
Read your Bible again

Since you claimed he went to war, mention the nations he fought against when he had not gone astray.

Alikoooooooooo:
➜That is why David did not build the Temple...... His hands were full of blood. Solomon built it and Solomon was so wise that he never fought any wars. Amazing how people forget Solomon's leadership style of signing treaties with his enemies and there was peace

He signed peace treaties and those magically kept the land of Israel from being ravaged by many of his enemies? Are you folks for real? 🤔🤔

Solomon, by way of his many treaties, ended up with 300 wives and 700 concubines, who eventually led him away from the worship of the YHWH of Israel towards the worship of Idols costing him his part in the covenant of salt promised by YHWH of Israel to his father, David. In addition to that, Solomon's actions led to the fracturing of the original nation of Israel into two different nations shortly after his death. 🤔🤔

Solomon was not necessarily a better king that his father, even with his immense wisdom. That is what is actually recorded in the book which many of you refuse to read for your own selves. 🤔🤔

Kobojunkie:
He signed peace treaties and those magically kept the land of Israel from being ravaged by many of his enemies? Are you folks for real? 🤔🤔

Solomon, by way of his many treaties, ended up with 300 wives and 700 concubines, who eventually led him away from the worship of the YHWH of Israel towards the worship of Idols costing him his part in the covenant of salt promised by YHWH of Israel to his father, David. In addition to that, Solomon's actions led to the fracturing of the original nation of Israel into two different nations shortly after his death. 🤔🤔

Solomon was not necessarily a better king that his father, even with his immense wisdom. That is what is actually recorded in the book which many of you refuse to read for your own selves. 🤔🤔

Read the Bible first about Solomon and come back and talk

Alikoooooooooo:
➜Read the Bible first about Solomon and come back and talk

You are clearly the one who never read up about Solomon from the Bible but from the many pasty stories from you by your gods of men, aka pastors and imams. 🤔

Kobojunkie:
You are clearly the one who never read up about Solomon from the Bible but from the many pasty stories from you by your gods of men, aka pastors and imams. 🤔

I'm laughing.......I'm really laughing......... I'm laughing hard.....