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Poll: Should a pastor publicly support a specific country involved in a war?

Yes, it is appropriate 49% (169 votes)
No, it is not appropriate 50% (171 votes)
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Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Coolgent(m): 6:48am On Mar 30
Attention seeker!
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by HenryWilliams(m): 7:46am On Mar 30
Tenses:
Who in his right senses would support iran?

Iran is a major financier of all terrorists organisations in the world and beyond.

Iran is not a country but a terrorist organisation.
And what do you think the CIA is?
Better remove the cotton wool between your ears and think.
The US has been the most war hungry, terrorist making and backing since time immemorial.
Who funded the Sandistas in Nicaragua?
Who created and funded the Mujahadeens in Afghanistan in the 70s to later become Al-Qaeda?
Who stole Mexican land under false flag operation?
Who funded civil unrest that toppled and killed Lumumba?
Who supported the Apartheid state of South Africa?
Can we include Korea, Vietnam, Similar into the mix?
Who is the backer or ISIS?
Who destroyed Libya and plunged Sub-saharan Africa into terrorism?
This same Iran, who do you think toppled the democratic government of Mossadeq in the 50s Just to install a puppet Shah that did their bidding like a willing slave?

The lot of you are just damn slow in the head
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by thrillionaire(m): 8:11am On Mar 30
Horus:
The majority of Israelis are not Christians. In Israel Christians are only between 1 and 2% of the population
Who asked you this? And so what by the way?

So because Israelis are predominantly Jews, Christians should support terrorist Muslims over them?

What did Jos people do to Muslims that made Islamists attack them after their unproductive fast? Imagine threatening to kii people after you're done fasting and still going ahead with that threat.

Isn't it clear that your worship, fast and creed is useless?
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Mrexcell(m): 8:14am On Mar 30
SarcasticWords:
You are right Pastor Chris. In fact, the apostles and first century christians should have fought and killed The Pharisees, Sadducees and romans that persecuted them.

They should have fought for their existence. I wonder why they didnt. 🤔

But anyway, as a man of God that you are, you have said exactly what Jesus would say.

By the way, Pastor Chris, are you aware that in israel (the country you are deeply in support of) the so called ''jews'' there spit on christians like you, and urinate on the walls of churches because they view christians like you as idolatrous pagans?

That alone is a very good reason why Christians today should fully support Israel.
Still doesn't change anything or makes God to disown the covenant he has with isreal thousands of years ago.
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Mrexcell(m): 8:16am On Mar 30
LordBiden:
No sir diplomacy is still the best way to go about it,war doesn't benefits anyone.

By the way the Iranians have never been the aggressor,each time Iran and the US is making progress with the nuclear talks is when Israel always strikes.
Very stale hamas that went into isreal and massacred over 1200 isrealis unprovoked who sponsored them?
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by thrillionaire(m): 8:17am On Mar 30
Leepeak:
See am a member of Christ embassy but omo isreal fvck up for this matter oo pastor, isreal fvck up oo big time,
The so called isreal na gay full there oo and lesbian o
Isreal supposed collect wetin nor good
From Iran,
Make I go rewatch the video again I dey come back
You be member of Christ Embassy but are disobedient to the Faith.
Even if you can't rate pastor Chris, you know more than God eh? You know more than the word of God in the Bible - known as the wisdom of God?

Lmao 🤣
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Mrexcell(m): 8:24am On Mar 30
Kingosytex:
I don't agree with you on this one sir.
The US and Israel shouldn't have attacked Iran because Iran posed no threat to them.
You don't attack someone simply because you think the person wants to attack you.


The lives and properties destroyed were uncalled for. Lives wasted for a needless war of ego.
You must be a joker if u think iran actually posed no threats to isreal a country that keeps threatening of wiping out isreal from the surface of the earth, sponsoring different terrorists groups and a nation like yemen to keep attacking and massacring isrealis at any slightest opportunity posed no threats?
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Mrexcell(m): 8:25am On Mar 30
Omoawoke:
This yahoo man don chop belleful

As long as there are sheeples, there must be food

Baba don train his pikin to takeover family business.. man must chop, sheeples must pay
You mean one of his two girls?
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by whizzler: 8:42am On Mar 30
Choiceone1:
U must not allow country like that to build such weapon they can wake up and destroy the world
Do u know why North Korea is respected by this same US or is the Ayatollah more erratic than Kim jong Un?
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Guninerma231: 9:14am On Mar 30
Sarcasm at its peak lol

SarcasticWords:
You are right Pastor Chris. In fact, the apostles and first century christians should have fought and killed The Pharisees, Sadducees and romans that persecuted them.

They should have fought for their existence. I wonder why they didnt. 🤔

But anyway, as a man of God that you are, you have said exactly what Jesus would say.

By the way, Pastor Chris, are you aware that in israel (the country you are deeply in support of) the so called ''jews'' there spit on christians like you, and urinate on the walls of churches because they view christians like you as idolatrous pagans?

That alone is a very good reason why Christians today should fully support Israel.
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by LLMG: 9:33am On Mar 30
SarcasticWords:
You are right Pastor Chris. In fact, the apostles and first century christians should have fought and killed The Pharisees, Sadducees and romans that persecuted them.

They should have fought for their existence. I wonder why they didnt. 🤔

But anyway, as a man of God that you are, you have said exactly what Jesus would say.

By the way, Pastor Chris, are you aware that in israel (the country you are deeply in support of) the so called ''jews'' there spit on christians like you, and urinate on the walls of churches because they view christians like you as idolatrous pagans?

That alone is a very good reason why Christians today should fully support Israel.
Just like arabs view you as not muslim enough and slaves.

You people keep bringing up this issue instead of focusing on your short comings, you haven't won any point here, stop worrying about Jews and Christians, the Bible said this will happen so Christians are not taken unaware neither are they affected by it, go worry about your baggages.
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by LLMG: 9:36am On Mar 30
Horus:
The majority of Israelis are not Christians. In Israel Christians are only between 1 and 2% of the population
Your level of reasoning is pathetic.
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by NLandIsHypocrit: 9:55am On Mar 30
LordBiden:
No sir diplomacy is still the best way to go about it, war doesn't benefits anyone.

By the way the Iranians have never been the aggressor,each time Iran and the US is making progress with the nuclear talks is when Israel always strikes.
An average Islamic terrorist does not understand the language of Diplomacy.
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by kmaster007: 10:46am On Mar 30
That what you think... Have you now heard that Benjamin Netanyahu sponsor Hamas that carried on attack against Israel on that Oct.
Tenses:
Who in his right senses would support iran?

Iran is a major financier of all terrorists organisations in the world and beyond.

Iran is not a country but a terrorist organisation.
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Nche95(m): 11:11am On Mar 30
Kingosytex:
You are actually the dumb fellow since you can't pass your message across without resorting to subtle insults.

What stopped Israel from arming their own proxies too?
see who I dey follow talk sef .
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by ScarletBrace(m): 11:16am On Mar 30
JAWBONE:
CIA Pastor don drop him own.

Iran has been threatening but has never attacked.

Whoever attacked first is the aggressor. Simple

Let me edit this post for those mentioning.

There is a good reason why Iran has been threatening Israel and the US.
The US together with Britain is responsible for the crisis that brought about the Islamic Regime. Read up about the CIA operations in the early 50s in Iran.

Israel on the other hand was built on violence and has continued to export violence and terrorize the countries surrounded it. Hamas and Hezbollah are a a response to Israeli aggressions.

To this very day, Israelis occupy lands that are not theirs and even in this current conflict, they have already taken huge parts of Southern Lebanon.

Now as for Islamic extremism, you can claim that is what Israel and America is fighting but when you educate yourself on the issue, you will found out there's more to what meets the eye.

This does not in anyway discount the problem of Islamic terrorism but it is certainly not what the interest of the US or Israel is in this conflict.

For the dumb and brainwashed Nigerian Christians, Trump just said this :
Disuan head don knock
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Kushites: 11:36am On Mar 30
kmaster007:
That what you think... Have you not heard that Benjamin Netanyahu sponsored Hamas that carried on attack against Israel on that Oct.
They are too ignorant to know this, bro.

These guys are Brainwashed by CNN, Fox News etc.

They don't even know it's Israel that created and funded Hamas. cool

If Hamas didn't exist, they would have no 'justification' to genocide the Palestinians and steal their land.
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Nwaikpe: 11:49am On Mar 30
allthingsgood:
Israel worships baphomet and spits on Christians. The count on your ignorance
Seriously? I never knew.
Is it the one talked about with two hands on his right side?

grin grin grin grin
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by KobolanderSegun: 12:15pm On Mar 30
nwirinedu:
Israel that just banned all forms if evangelism in the country. Misinformed greasy
haired pastor.
KobolanderSegun:
How King Solomon Brought About Peace with His Enemies: Biblical Perspective

According to the Bible, King Solomon established and maintained peace with his enemies through several divinely guided strategies. Here are the key methods, supported by Scripture:

1. God's Promise of Peace Fulfilled

Before Solomon even reigned, God promised David that his son would be "a man of rest" and that God would "give him rest from all his enemies round about" (1 Chronicles 22:9). This divine promise set the foundation for Solomon's peaceful reign.

2. Diplomatic Alliances Through Marriage

"Solomon made a marriage alliance with Pharaoh king of Egypt. He took Pharaoh's daughter and brought her into the city of David..." (1 Kings 3:1, ESV)

Solomon secured peace with Egypt—a major regional power—through a strategic marriage alliance. This diplomatic move neutralized a potential threat and opened trade routes.

3. Treaties with Neighboring Kingdoms

"Now Hiram king of Tyre sent his servants to Solomon... for Hiram had always been a friend of David." (1 Kings 5:1, ESV)

"The Lord gave Solomon wisdom, just as he had promised him. There were peaceful relations between Hiram and Solomon, and the two of them made a treaty." (1 Kings 5:12, NIV)

Solomon honored his father David's friendship with Hiram of Tyre and formalized it into a binding treaty. This alliance provided materials for the Temple and secured Israel's northern border.

4. God-Given Wisdom in Governance

Solomon famously asked God for wisdom to govern justly (1 Kings 3:9). God granted this request, and Solomon's wise decisions prevented conflicts and earned respect from surrounding nations:

"Men of all nations came to listen to Solomon's wisdom, sent by all the kings of the earth, who had heard of his wisdom." (1 Kings 4:34, NIV)

5. The Result: Comprehensive Peace

"For he ruled over all the kingdoms west of the Euphrates River, from Tiphsah to Gaza, and had peace on all sides." (1 Kings 4:24, NIV)

"During Solomon's lifetime Judah and Israel, from Dan to Beersheba, lived in safety, everyone under their own vine and under their own fig tree." (1 Kings 4:25, NIV)

6. A Spiritual Principle: Righteous Living Brings Peace

While not exclusive to Solomon, this proverb reflects the principle behind his success:

"When a man's ways please the LORD, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him." (Proverbs 16:7, NKJV)

Solomon's early reign demonstrated that when a leader walks in obedience to God, even former adversaries can become peaceful neighbors.

While Solomon enjoyed peace for most of his reign, the Bible also records that later in life, "the LORD raised up adversaries against Solomon" due to his disobedience in marrying foreign wives and worshipping their gods (1 Kings 11:1-14).

This serves as a sobering reminder that peace with enemies is maintained through continued faithfulness to God, not merely political strategy.

Solomon's peace was not achieved through military conquest alone, but through a combination of divine favor, wisdom, diplomatic alliances, and righteous leadership—all rooted in his early devotion to God.

BACK TO REALITY. Snapping my fingers.

I'm not saying you should marry wives like Solomon did and I seriously doubt God told Solomon to marry wives.

The key to achieving peace is find out what your enemy loves and supply him with that by doing that the hatred he has for you will reduce.

In the case of Iran the sanctions should only have been around Nuclear Weapons. Iran should have gotten internet and technology also, Things like AID, Community Development should have been given to them, Gifts and presents should have flowed,

Crushing Sanctions do not work. You sanction in one area and you over compensate in other areas.

You must never look like an Enemy

Wars Start when people think they are Enemies. So don't be an Enemy.

In the case of Active Terrorism like the one in Africa you have to teach the region UAE , Saudi Arabia Religion that has Peace and Development at its core. For Violent Pro active terrorism there has to be fighting because those terrorists are hyper fanatical and only think about fighting

Finally Never Ever start a War. Be like Iran Wait for War.
The Bible Never Lies
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by KingOfAmebo(m):
SarcasticWords:
Source: https://dailypost.ng/2026/03/29/your-hatred-is-satanic-pastor-oyakhilome-declares-stance-on-us-israel-war-on-iran/
israelmao:
Israel remains a nation no matter the hate.They that are with Israel are more than they that are with them.The Jews have been escaping holocaust and extinction since Bible days starting with Haman's wicked plan against Mordecai and his people.
Chibuzoc:
For 47 years, the Islamic republic has been chanting death to America death to Israel, the Islamic regime deserves no support
SarcasticWords:
You are right Pastor Chris. In fact, the apostles and first century christians should have fought and killed The Pharisees, Sadducees and romans that persecuted them.

They should have fought for their existence. I wonder why they didnt. 🤔

But anyway, as a man of God that you are, you have said exactly what Jesus would say.

By the way, Pastor Chris, are you aware that in israel (the country you are deeply in support of) the so called ''jews'' there spit on christians like you, and urinate on the walls of churches because they view christians like you as idolatrous pagans?

That alone is a very good reason why Christians today should fully support Israel.
insidelife22:
I don't want to see a terrorist without virgins after this war.

In other words:a living terrorist
Tenses:
Who in his right senses would support iran?

Iran is a major financier of all terrorists organisations in the world and beyond.

Iran is not a country but a terrorist organisation.
hamzeiy:
This is not news coming from you a pastor and your types...
I would have been news if your stance was otherwise.

Who is supposed here.
Smh
Nwaikpe:
It's clear.
Everyone knows that.

The hand of 3vil is not hard to spot.
When it comes upon a man, whether a member of the clergy, it takes the man.

In Germany, even Priests wore the Reich Uniform.
In Russia and Italy, clergies handed over the Jews to the government.

Is it these ones that don't profess that name of God, but literally serve the source of evil, that will not be overcome?
Kingosytex:
I don't agree with you on this one sir.
The US and Israel shouldn't have attacked Iran because Iran posed no threat to them.
You don't attack someone simply because you think the person wants to attack you.


The lives and properties destroyed were uncalled for. Lives wasted for a needless war of ego.
Omoawoke:
This yahoo man don chop belleful

As long as there are sheeples, there must be food

Baba don train his pikin to takeover family business.. man must chop, sheeples must pay
Kobojunkie:
Not holding brief for the other but diplomacy only works when the one you are engaging values it as much as you do. It does not work at all if that is not the case. If your opponent keeps coming at you with an axe brandished against your head, you would be a literal fool to think diplomacy a reasonable path to a solution, especially if it has not stopped your opponent from aiming that axe at your head numerous times before. 🥱🥱

Diplomacy is not in itself a solution, nor is it a one-size-fits-all. 🥱
JAWBONE:
CIA Pastor don drop him own.

Iran has been threatening but has never attacked.

Whoever attacked first is the aggressor. Simple

Let me edit this post for those mentioning.

There is a good reason why Iran has been threatening Israel and the US.
The US together with Britain is responsible for the crisis that brought about the Islamic Regime. Read up about the CIA operations in the early 50s in Iran.

Israel on the other hand was built on violence and has continued to export violence and terrorize the countries surrounded it. Hamas and Hezbollah are a a response to Israeli aggressions.

To this very day, Israelis occupy lands that are not theirs and even in this current conflict, they have already taken huge parts of Southern Lebanon.

Now as for Islamic extremism, you can claim that is what Israel and America is fighting but when you educate yourself on the issue, you will found out there's more to what meets the eye.

This does not in anyway discount the problem of Islamic terrorism but it is certainly not what the interest of the US or Israel is in this conflict.

For the dumb and brainwashed Nigerian Christians, Trump just said this :
stanisbaratheon:
Of all the countries in the world, I can bet anyone that it is only Nigeria that will be threatened to be wiped out by its neighbours without doing anything about it. Why because we have stupid and tribalistic people leading this country.

Pastor Chris is just saying what everyone already knows. You don't seat and allow yourself to be annihilated without doing something to stop it.
atobs4real:
Am with you sir. U are very correct. Iran stands for terror
Abimagicfine:
You can go and defend Israel in Tel Aviv mumu pastor,
israelmao:
Israel remains a nation no matter the hate.They that are with Israel are more than they that are with them.The Jews have been escaping holocaust and extinction since Bible days starting with Haman's wicked plan against Mordecai and his people.
Nwaikpe:
You simply wait to be attacked before you attack, right?
richkal:
Goyim Pastor has spoken.

The purpose of gentile is to fight and die for Israel.
lightwind:
God bless you Pastor Chris on this one you said the truth

Israel is defending her existence, she is fighting to survive.

If another person is planning, threatening to annihilate me i will fight him with all my strength and power until he becomes powerless to do so
Does this ignorant pastor knows the State of Israel of today is not the Israel of the Bible or was the Bible written after 1948? Abi him sef don collect offering from dem...grin grin grin

You can foooool your already fooooolish congratulation not us....grin grin grin

The Jerry curled Pastor doesn't even know Iran and Israel don't even share border, he doesn't know Iran is over 2,000km away from Israel, how does he expect Iran to share land with Israel?...grin grin grin...the werrey doesn't even understand geopolitics...grin grin grin

When was last the time this werrey even checked the map?....grin grin grin

Instead of you to concentrate on collecting your fraudulent tithe from you gullible congratulation you are disgracing yourself on issues you have zero knowledge about...grin grin grin

This werrey Pastor doesn't even know the Jews he supports doesn't recognize the Jesus he worships as their Lord and Savior...grin grin grin

Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by budaatum: 2:27pm On Mar 30
Kobojunkie:
Not holding brief for the other but diplomacy only works when the one you are engaging values it as much as you do. It does not work at all if that is not the case. If your opponent keeps coming at you with an axe brandished against your head, you would be a literal fool to think diplomacy a reasonable path to a solution, especially if it has not stopped your opponent from aiming that axe at your head numerous times before. 🥱🥱

Diplomacy is not in itself a solution, nor is it a one-size-fits-all. 🥱
USA and Israel going for Iran with an axe brandished against Iran's head Is rather abysmal, I must agree. Thankfully, their own axe brandishing is what would stop them in the end.

Just watching the rest of the world not join Israel and USA to brandish axes is much hope for the human race.
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by femi4: 3:52pm On Mar 30
Lamba master
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Lookmun: 4:08pm On Mar 30
chronique:
When I say a lot of Nigerian pastors are ignorant, people think I just want to insult them. For those who don't know, the Persians(Iran) were the first set of people to deliver the jews(Israel) from babylonian captivity. The Palestinian cause, is the main reason Iran has problems with Israel. The second reason is Israel's greater Isreal plan where they intend to annex several middle Eastern countries to form a larger Jewish nation. As we speak, Israel is occupying parts of Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, and intend to go all the way to other countries. Israel has clearly been the one pushing for America to attack Iran for 40 years now(Benjamin Netanyahu himself said that). Iran who they claim are terrorists, have never attacked or invaded any of their neighbors and that is something you can easily verify on the internet. Israel on the other hand has bombed and attacked virtually every country around them. This current war has a lot of ropes to it. Netanyahu is facing criminal charges in his country that would see him go to jail and the only way to avoid it, is to continously wage war so he doesn't have to answer for his corruption case waiting for him. Nigerian pastors are actually very ignorant in geopolitics
Persians were not originally Muslims. The current Mullah regime imposed themselves on the Persian populated state and has oppressed them for almost 50 years. If you are sympathetic to the Palestinian cause for statehood but you can’t get yourself to feel for the ordinary Persians or Iranians, then I wouldn’t trust your moral compass. But all that is by the way.

You talk about the Palestian cause for statehood without mentioning the fact that they were calling for return of millions of people before they can accept Israel’s offer. Also, if Israel should allow Palestine to be a state as it is now, it would mean that the leadership of the state would be Hamas. Don’t tell me that the Palestinian authority (PA) will lead. The Hamas are the ones that have the arms and will forcefully displace the PA and they are publicly committed to the destruction of the Jewish state. So Israel is actually right in saying Hamas should give up their weapons and accept amnesty before they can allow for any statehood.

Even if the Palestinian cause is totally just, you cannot take laws into your hand and sent proxies to be fighting another country. That’s against the law too. You send them to kill innocent people on Oct 7. Is that lawful? If you were Israel would you trust that an entity like Hamas would play ball and be committed to peaceful co-existence if they allow Hamas lead a state?

On the issue of Greater Israel, I’d be honest, I don’t trust Netanyahu’s intentions on this. But an average Israeli would argue that countries that are attacking them are the ones they are currently attacking. They have some parts of Lebanon and all but they argue that they are there to prevent constant attacks. Egypt was a sworn enemy of Israel but since they committed to true peace (even though they hate Israel, they stay away from them), there have been no war between both entities in the past couple of decades. You can’t be fighting against them actively and cry when they occupy your land to repel those attacks.

It’s wrong to suggest that Iran have never attacked. They are the largest sponsors of entities tagged as terrorist organization like the Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah that not only cause menace to Israel but also cause trouble in the region.

If you think the reason for the endless war is that Benjamin Netanyahu wants to prolong his case endlessly, then Hamas should drop their weapons and take the amnesty deal. If they do and Israel still fights on, it would be clear that your point holds merit.
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Lookmun: 4:41pm On Mar 30
HenryWilliams:
And what do you think the CIA is?
Better remove the cotton wool between your ears and think.
The US has been the most war hungry, terrorist making and backing since time immemorial.
Who funded the Sandistas in Nicaragua?
Who created and funded the Mujahadeens in Afghanistan in the 70s to later become Al-Qaeda?
Who stole Mexican land under false flag operation?
Who funded civil unrest that toppled and killed Lumumba?
Who supported the Apartheid state of South Africa?
Can we include Korea, Vietnam, Similar into the mix?
Who is the backer or ISIS?
Who destroyed Libya and plunged Sub-saharan Africa into terrorism?
This same Iran, who do you think toppled the democratic government of Mossadeq in the 50s Just to install a puppet Shah that did their bidding like a willing slave?

The lot of you are just damn slow in the head
There are thousands of religions in the world today. If you say the US are behind these evil happenings, how come the Muslims are always willing tools? From Hamas to Houthis to Hezbollah to Al Qaeda to Boko Baram to ISWAP. Islamists have the most prominent terrorist groups in the world by far. Why are they always willing tools for the west to perpetuate their selfish agenda? Why don’t we have many Chinese or German or Greek terrorist groups causing mayhem to innocent civilians and the regions around them?

The answer is found in the kind of radicalization that happens with young minds in the regions. They are taught by their book and tutors to be radical in ways similar to their most hallowed prophet. This is where the main issue lies.
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Lookmun: 4:48pm On Mar 30
kmaster007:
That what you think... Have you now heard that Benjamin Netanyahu sponsor Hamas that carried on attack against Israel on that Oct.
I’m no fan of Benjamin Netanyahu but he would argue that he thought Hamas would reform to a responsible government and so tried to encourage it to. While I don’t even buy this excuse from him, does that excuse Hamas from killing innocent civilians on October 7th?

If Israel allowed money to be channeled to them via Qatar and they used to money to develop secret terrorist weaponry, why blame Israel but excuse Qatar and the actual perpetrators - Iran?
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by chronique(m): 5:02pm On Mar 30
Lookmun:
Persians were not originally Muslims. The current Mullah regime imposed themselves on the Persian populated state and has oppressed them for almost 50 years. If you are sympathetic to the Palestinian cause for statehood but you can’t get yourself to feel for the ordinary Persians or Iranians, then I wouldn’t trust your moral compass. But all that is by the way.

You talk about the Palestian cause for statehood without mentioning the fact that they were calling for return of millions of people before they can accept Israel’s offer. Also, if Israel should allow Palestine to be a state as it is now, it would mean that the leadership of the state would be Hamas. Don’t tell me that the Palestinian authority (PA) will lead. The Hamas are the ones that have the arms and will forcefully displace the PA and they are publicly committed to the destruction of the Jewish state. So Israel is actually right in saying Hamas should give up their weapons and accept amnesty before they can allow for any statehood.

Even if the Palestinian cause is totally just, you cannot take laws into your hand and sent proxies to be fighting another country. That’s against the law too. You send them to kill innocent people on Oct 7. Is that lawful? If you were Israel would you trust that an entity like Hamas would play ball and be committed to peaceful co-existence if they allow Hamas lead a state?

On the issue of Greater Israel, I’d be honest, I don’t trust Netanyahu’s intentions on this. But an average Israeli would argue that countries that are attacking them are the ones they are currently attacking. They have some parts of Lebanon and all but they argue that they are there to prevent constant attacks. Egypt was a sworn enemy of Israel but since they committed to true peace (even though they hate Israel, they stay away from them), there have been no war between both entities in the past couple of decades. You can’t be fighting against them actively and cry when they occupy your land to repel those attacks.

It’s wrong to suggest that Iran have never attacked. They are the largest sponsors of entities tagged as terrorist organization like the Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah that not only cause menace to Israel but also cause trouble in the region.

If you think the reason for the endless war is that Benjamin Netanyahu wants to prolong his case endlessly, then Hamas should drop their weapons and take the amnesty deal. If they do and Israel still fights on, it would be clear that your point holds merit.
Hezbolah is not a terrorist group. Hezbolah was founded in 1982 as a result of Israeli occupation of Lebanon and the group fought to push out Israel from its occupied territories. The western media narrative is what tends to portray hezbolah as terrorists. Hezbolah is a political party in Lebanon and has representatives in the Lebanese parliament. Hezbolah doesn't operate outside the shores of Lebanon. Israel has invaded Lebanon at least 6 times since 1978.

Hamas is a resistant movement that was founded in 1987 against the Israeli occupation of Palestine. Before Hamas, there was also the PLO(Palestine liberation organization) which also fought against Israeli occupation of Palestine. At some point, Israel started funding Hamas secretly against the PLO(divide and rule tactic) so as to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. By funding Hamas, they successfully created different factions of militia in Palestine and in the 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections, Hamas won majority of the seats. At the end of the day, both the Hamas, Fattah group, hezbolah, PLO and other groups, were founded in response to Israeli occupation of the lands of Lebanon and Palestine. A lot of people talk about October 7th without realizing the events that led to that attack. Isreal had been randomly arresting Palestinians, killing and raping the prisoners. The female prisoners were subjected to sexual abuses and even kids were detained/shot dead by Israeli soldiers. Israeli occupation forces also encouraged their citizens to take over Palestinian lands, farms and houses. They were supported with military backing to carry out all these atrocities. While all of these happened, the whole world watched and did nothing. The result of that, was the October 7th attack on Israel. The politics of that region has seen both actors(Israelis and Palestinians) engage in activities that would qualify as terrorists acts in a bid to fight against the other. None of them are completely innocent but the fact is that Israel has been the major cause of the problem. Before October 7th, international efforts were made to allow Jerusalem be owned by both Palestinians and Israelis but the Israelis didn't want that. Israel wanted the whole of Jerusalem as their undivided capital while the Palestinians were OK with having east Jerusalem as the capital of the future Palestine state. Both sides lay claim to this city and this disagreement, affected international efforts to resolve this conflict.

The Yemeni Houthis too is a resistant militia group in Yemen with similar operations like hezbolah. Iran's support for these groups as proxies initially was to help them fight and stand alone for the liberation of their territories but eventually turned out to proxies used in fighting Israel as the conflict between Israel and Iran deepened.

As for the current Islamic regime, they never imposed themselves on the Persians/Iranians. After the Islamic revolution of 1979 during which the shah who was hated by his people, ran away on exile and never came back, the new leadership conducted an election to create the Islamic republic of Iran and majority of the citizens overwhelmingly voted for the new Iran. Whenever we are discussing issues like this in public, it is important that we have the facts of the matter at hand so we don't misinform others. Islam was not forced on Iranians. They voted for the new republic and chose their fate. This is something that you can research yourself on the internet.

On the issue of Hamas leading Palestine over the Palestinian authority, this is my take. If there is a genuine international effort to mandate Israel to abide by whatever settlement that is just and negotiated by the international community, Hamas would have no option other than to relinquish the control of Gaza. Remember that Hamas only came into existence in a bid to fight for their lands. They were not initially created to rule over territories.

Who would you choose between Iran that only supports Hamas/hezbolah and Houthis(resistant groups fighting for their lands) , and the US & Israel that supports Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Boko haram, HTS, and Co(terrorists groups carrying out terrorists acts globally across borders)? I hope you know the current president of Syria was once an Al-Qaeda/HTS terrorist that the US put a 50m dollar bounty on initially, but eventually used him to topple Assad(former Syrian president) and is no longer called a terrorist.
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Kobojunkie: 5:46pm On Mar 30
KingOfAmebo:
Does this ignorant pastor knows the State of Israel of today is not the Israel of the Bible or was the Bible written after 1948? Abi him sef don collect offering from dem...grin grin grin
You can foooool your already fooooolish congratulation not us....grin grin grin
The Jerry curled Pastor doesn't even know Iran and Israel don't even share border, he doesn't know Iran is over 2,000km away from Israel, how does he expect Iran to share land with Israel?...grin grin grin...the werrey doesn't even understand geopolitics...grin grin grin
When was last the time this werrey even checked the map?....grin grin grin
Instead of you to concentrate on collecting your fraudulent tithe from you gullible congratulation you are disgracing yourself on issues you have zero knowledge about...grin grin grin
This werrey Pastor doesn't even know the Jews he supports doesn't recognize the Jesus he worships as their Lord and Savior...grin grin grin
I don't give a flying Bleep about what the pastor knows of does not know, neither do I really care what he thinks. I do know that every nation -- not to be confused with regime here -- has a right to defend itself and it's people from foreign invaders, same as Nigeria has every right to do same, even though the people in power refuse still to do just that. 🥱🥱
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by kmaster007: 6:33pm On Mar 30
They no what dey are doing. Best no to them
Lookmun:
I’m no fan of Benjamin Netanyahu but he would argue that he thought Hamas would reform to a responsible government and so tried to encourage it to. While I don’t even buy this excuse from him, does that excuse Hamas from killing innocent civilians on October 7th?

If Israel allowed money to be channeled to them via Qatar and they used to money to develop secret terrorist weaponry, why blame Israel but excuse Qatar and the actual perpetrators - Iran?
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Lookmun: 6:44pm On Mar 30
chronique:
Hezbolah is not a terrorist group. Hezbolah was founded in 1982 as a result of Israeli occupation of Lebanon and the group fought to push out Israel from its occupied territories. The western media narrative is what tends to portray hezbolah as terrorists. Hezbolah is a political party in Lebanon and has representatives in the Lebanese parliament. Hezbolah doesn't operate outside the shores of Lebanon. Israel has invaded Lebanon at least 6 times since 1978.

Hamas is a resistant movement that was founded in 1987 against the Israeli occupation of Palestine. Before Hamas, there was also the PLO(Palestine liberation organization) which also fought against Israeli occupation of Palestine. At some point, Israel started funding Hamas secretly against the PLO(divide and rule tactic) so as to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. By funding Hamas, they successfully created different factions of militia in Palestine and in the 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections, Hamas won majority of the seats. At the end of the day, both the Hamas, Fattah group, hezbolah, PLO and other groups, were founded in response to Israeli occupation of the lands of Lebanon and Palestine. A lot of people talk about October 7th without realizing the events that led to that attack. Isreal had been randomly arresting Palestinians, killing and raping the prisoners. The female prisoners were subjected to sexual abuses and even kids were detained/shot dead by Israeli soldiers. Israeli occupation forces also encouraged their citizens to take over Palestinian lands, farms and houses. They were supported with military backing to carry out all these atrocities. While all of these happened, the whole world watched and did nothing. The result of that, was the October 7th attack on Israel. The politics of that region has seen both actors(Israelis and Palestinians) engage in activities that would qualify as terrorists acts in a bid to fight against the other. None of them are completely innocent but the fact is that Israel has been the major cause of the problem. Before October 7th, international efforts were made to allow Jerusalem be owned by both Palestinians and Israelis but the Israelis didn't want that. Israel wanted the whole of Jerusalem as their undivided capital while the Palestinians were OK with having east Jerusalem as the capital of the future Palestine state. Both sides lay claim to this city and this disagreement, affected international efforts to resolve this conflict.

The Yemeni Houthis too is a resistant militia group in Yemen with similar operations like hezbolah. Iran's support for these groups as proxies initially was to help them fight and stand alone for the liberation of their territories but eventually turned out to proxies used in fighting Israel as the conflict between Israel and Iran deepened.

As for the current Islamic regime, they never imposed themselves on the Persians/Iranians. After the Islamic revolution of 1979 during which the shah who was hated by his people, ran away on exile and never came back, the new leadership conducted an election to create the Islamic republic of Iran and majority of the citizens overwhelmingly voted for the new Iran. Whenever we are discussing issues like this in public, it is important that we have the facts of the matter at hand so we don't misinform others. Islam was not forced on Iranians. They voted for the new republic and chose their fate. This is something that you can research yourself on the internet.

On the issue of Hamas leading Palestine over the Palestinian authority, this is my take. If there is a genuine international effort to mandate Israel to abide by whatever settlement that is just and negotiated by the international community, Hamas would have no option other than to relinquish the control of Gaza. Remember that Hamas only came into existence in a bid to fight for their lands. They were not initially created to rule over territories.

Who would you choose between Iran that only supports Hamas/hezbolah and Houthis(resistant groups fighting for their lands) , and the US & Israel that supports Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Boko haram, HTS, and Co(terrorists groups carrying out terrorists acts globally across borders)? I hope you know the current president of Syria was once an Al-Qaeda/HTS terrorist that the US put a 50m dollar bounty on initially, but eventually used him to topple Assad(former Syrian president) and is no longer called a terrorist.
Hezbollah is considered a terrorist group by no less than 65 countries. Though some of these countries distinguish between their military arm and their government arm but their leadership arm will never dissociate themselves from the dastardly acts not only against the west but also against counties within the region like Kuwait assassination plot, support for Shiite military groups that cause destabilization in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain, weapons smuggling and training of insurgents, aggression towards Sunni led governments in the gulf region.

Israel would argue that the PLO, based in southern Lebanon, was launching rocket and guerrilla attacks into northern Israel, threatening civilian populations as they reason for their occupation. That say that the invasion was aimed at pushing PLO forces away from the Israeli border and establishing a “security zone” in southern Lebanon, etc.

I agree with you that Israel’s funding of Hamas was aimed at ensuring that the region is divided. This along with the activities going on in the West Bank and the sexual atrocities committed by the Israeli army against Palestinian prisoners are the areas that I come hard against Israel. But Hamas should also be called out for their atrocities too. In other words, everything is not all about Israel-Palestine. Hamas’s activities in Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula and cooperation with extremists groups have led to attacks on Egyptian soldiers and civilians. Their actions have been partly responsible for the destabilization in Sudan and Syria too. Need I say more about the Houthis and their atrocities in Yemen and beyond, including indiscriminate shelling of civilians, arbitrary detention, torture, enforced disappearances, recruitment of child soldiers, and cross-border attacks on Saudi Arabia and Red Sea shipping?

Your point that Israel didn’t want a divided capital a reason for the prolonged conflict is not accurate. Ehud Barak wanted this but his offers got rejected.

I wouldn’t agree that Israel is the main barrier to peace because if you say that Israel is fighting against lots of countries in the region they’ll say that they are fighting because they are being fought. Thousands of missiles launched against them and what not. They are not fighting against counties that are committed to true peace with them (like Egypt whom they disagree with ideologically but mutually respect). If you bring about the Nakba, they’ll tell you that that event was within the context of war. The Arab states were fully against the establishment of a Jewish state. they claim that the land was theirs and that Jews had been wiped out of the land thousands of years ago but that’s not correct. Jews never left the land, they were only in the minority and legitimately sought to be re-united in parts of their traditional home land. Did they deserve a land of their own? Yes they did but this never sat well with the Arabs who initiated attacks and then cried foul when attacked back.

After the Shah fell, Ayatollah Khomeini and the clerical establishment sidelined or repressed non-Islamist factions, consolidating control under a theocratic model. Secular parties, leftist groups, and women’s rights activists were banned, imprisoned, or executed in the early 1980s. The media was crushed to powder. Even though elections exist, real competition is tightly controlled, reinforcing the sense that clerics imposed themselves rather than allowing pluralism.

Again I say that you want to blame US for support of Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Boko haram, HTS? That’s hypocritical. These organizations publicly declare loyalty to Muslim causes and oppose western causes. US and Israel’s actions or inactions may have directly or indirectly encouraged their spread but fundamentally, these organizations have a mindset of undoing western civilizations in favour of Muslim ones. They do not shout “Jesus is Lord” or “Hail Buddha” but “Alahu Akbar.” It’s convenient to blame the west but what about the clerics that teach them to be violent? What about the creed of some of these organizations that spell out clearly that they are not only in this because of hatred for the Jews but they are in it because they are against the non-believers in general? Or is it America that teaches them suicide bombing?

The moderate Muslims are quick to claim that the fundamentalists are not acting in line with the true creed but they do not call out these fundamentalists when they do their dastardly acts the way they express rage when their prophet or holy book is disparaged. It’s an intellectual dishonesty in my and many people’s opinion.
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Choiceone1: 8:03pm On Mar 30
whizzler:
Do u know why North Korea is respected by this same US or is the Ayatollah more erratic than Kim jong Un?
They have accepted that one as a mistake
Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by lightwind(m): 10:56pm On Mar 30
KingOfAmebo:
Does it matter when Iran is sponsoring, equipping and financing Hamas very close to Israel to destroy Israel. Financing Hezbollah from Lebanon, Financing Houthis from Yemen and so many more.

Even a kindergarten will understand better than you.




































Does this ignorant pastor knows the State of Israel of today is not the Israel of the Bible or was the Bible written after 1948? Abi him sef don collect offering from dem...grin grin grin

You can foooool your already fooooolish congratulation not us....grin grin grin

The Jerry curled Pastor doesn't even know Iran and Israel don't even share border, he doesn't know Iran is over 2,000km away from Israel, how does he expect Iran to share land with Israel?...grin grin grin...the werrey doesn't even understand geopolitics...grin grin grin

When was last the time this werrey even checked the map?....grin grin grin

Instead of you to concentrate on collecting your fraudulent tithe from you gullible congratulation you are disgracing yourself on issues you have zero knowledge about...grin grin grin

This werrey Pastor doesn't even know the Jews he supports doesn't recognize the Jesus he worships as their Lord and Savior...grin grin grin
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