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Poll: Should a pastor publicly support a specific country involved in a war?
Yes, it is appropriate
49% (169 votes)
No, it is not appropriate
50% (171 votes)
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| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Coolgent(m): 6:48am On Mar 30 |
Attention seeker! |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by HenryWilliams(m): 7:46am On Mar 30 |
Tenses:And what do you think the CIA is? Better remove the cotton wool between your ears and think. The US has been the most war hungry, terrorist making and backing since time immemorial. Who funded the Sandistas in Nicaragua? Who created and funded the Mujahadeens in Afghanistan in the 70s to later become Al-Qaeda? Who stole Mexican land under false flag operation? Who funded civil unrest that toppled and killed Lumumba? Who supported the Apartheid state of South Africa? Can we include Korea, Vietnam, Similar into the mix? Who is the backer or ISIS? Who destroyed Libya and plunged Sub-saharan Africa into terrorism? This same Iran, who do you think toppled the democratic government of Mossadeq in the 50s Just to install a puppet Shah that did their bidding like a willing slave? The lot of you are just damn slow in the head |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by thrillionaire(m): 8:11am On Mar 30 |
Horus:Who asked you this? And so what by the way? So because Israelis are predominantly Jews, Christians should support terrorist Muslims over them? What did Jos people do to Muslims that made Islamists attack them after their unproductive fast? Imagine threatening to kii people after you're done fasting and still going ahead with that threat. Isn't it clear that your worship, fast and creed is useless? |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Mrexcell(m): 8:14am On Mar 30 |
SarcasticWords:Still doesn't change anything or makes God to disown the covenant he has with isreal thousands of years ago. |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Mrexcell(m): 8:16am On Mar 30 |
LordBiden:Very stale hamas that went into isreal and massacred over 1200 isrealis unprovoked who sponsored them? |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by thrillionaire(m): 8:17am On Mar 30 |
Leepeak:You be member of Christ Embassy but are disobedient to the Faith. Even if you can't rate pastor Chris, you know more than God eh? You know more than the word of God in the Bible - known as the wisdom of God? Lmao 🤣 |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Mrexcell(m): 8:24am On Mar 30 |
Kingosytex:You must be a joker if u think iran actually posed no threats to isreal a country that keeps threatening of wiping out isreal from the surface of the earth, sponsoring different terrorists groups and a nation like yemen to keep attacking and massacring isrealis at any slightest opportunity posed no threats? |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Mrexcell(m): 8:25am On Mar 30 |
Omoawoke:You mean one of his two girls? |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by whizzler: 8:42am On Mar 30 |
Choiceone1:Do u know why North Korea is respected by this same US or is the Ayatollah more erratic than Kim jong Un? |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Guninerma231: 9:14am On Mar 30 |
Sarcasm at its peak lol SarcasticWords: |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by LLMG: 9:33am On Mar 30 |
SarcasticWords:Just like arabs view you as not muslim enough and slaves. You people keep bringing up this issue instead of focusing on your short comings, you haven't won any point here, stop worrying about Jews and Christians, the Bible said this will happen so Christians are not taken unaware neither are they affected by it, go worry about your baggages. |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by LLMG: 9:36am On Mar 30 |
Horus:Your level of reasoning is pathetic. |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by NLandIsHypocrit: 9:55am On Mar 30 |
LordBiden:An average Islamic terrorist does not understand the language of Diplomacy. |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by kmaster007: 10:46am On Mar 30 |
That what you think... Have you now heard that Benjamin Netanyahu sponsor Hamas that carried on attack against Israel on that Oct. Tenses: |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Nche95(m): 11:11am On Mar 30 |
Kingosytex:see who I dey follow talk sef . |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by ScarletBrace(m): 11:16am On Mar 30 |
JAWBONE:Disuan head don knock |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Kushites: 11:36am On Mar 30 |
kmaster007:They are too ignorant to know this, bro. These guys are Brainwashed by CNN, Fox News etc. They don't even know it's Israel that created and funded Hamas. ![]() If Hamas didn't exist, they would have no 'justification' to genocide the Palestinians and steal their land. |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Nwaikpe: 11:49am On Mar 30 |
allthingsgood:Seriously? I never knew. Is it the one talked about with two hands on his right side? ![]() |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by KobolanderSegun: 12:15pm On Mar 30 |
nwirinedu: KobolanderSegun:The Bible Never Lies |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by KingOfAmebo(m): 2:03pm On Mar 30*. Modified: 2:25pm On Mar 30 |
SarcasticWords: israelmao: Chibuzoc: SarcasticWords: insidelife22: Tenses: hamzeiy: Nwaikpe: Kingosytex: Omoawoke: Kobojunkie: JAWBONE: stanisbaratheon: atobs4real: Abimagicfine: israelmao: Nwaikpe: richkal: lightwind:Does this ignorant pastor knows the State of Israel of today is not the Israel of the Bible or was the Bible written after 1948? Abi him sef don collect offering from dem... ![]() You can foooool your already fooooolish congratulation not us.... ![]() The Jerry curled Pastor doesn't even know Iran and Israel don't even share border, he doesn't know Iran is over 2,000km away from Israel, how does he expect Iran to share land with Israel?... ...the werrey doesn't even understand geopolitics... When was last the time this werrey even checked the map?.... ![]() Instead of you to concentrate on collecting your fraudulent tithe from you gullible congratulation you are disgracing yourself on issues you have zero knowledge about... ![]() This werrey Pastor doesn't even know the Jews he supports doesn't recognize the Jesus he worships as their Lord and Savior... ![]()
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| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by budaatum: 2:27pm On Mar 30 |
Kobojunkie:USA and Israel going for Iran with an axe brandished against Iran's head Is rather abysmal, I must agree. Thankfully, their own axe brandishing is what would stop them in the end. Just watching the rest of the world not join Israel and USA to brandish axes is much hope for the human race. |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by femi4: 3:52pm On Mar 30 |
Lamba master |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Lookmun: 4:08pm On Mar 30 |
chronique:Persians were not originally Muslims. The current Mullah regime imposed themselves on the Persian populated state and has oppressed them for almost 50 years. If you are sympathetic to the Palestinian cause for statehood but you can’t get yourself to feel for the ordinary Persians or Iranians, then I wouldn’t trust your moral compass. But all that is by the way. You talk about the Palestian cause for statehood without mentioning the fact that they were calling for return of millions of people before they can accept Israel’s offer. Also, if Israel should allow Palestine to be a state as it is now, it would mean that the leadership of the state would be Hamas. Don’t tell me that the Palestinian authority (PA) will lead. The Hamas are the ones that have the arms and will forcefully displace the PA and they are publicly committed to the destruction of the Jewish state. So Israel is actually right in saying Hamas should give up their weapons and accept amnesty before they can allow for any statehood. Even if the Palestinian cause is totally just, you cannot take laws into your hand and sent proxies to be fighting another country. That’s against the law too. You send them to kill innocent people on Oct 7. Is that lawful? If you were Israel would you trust that an entity like Hamas would play ball and be committed to peaceful co-existence if they allow Hamas lead a state? On the issue of Greater Israel, I’d be honest, I don’t trust Netanyahu’s intentions on this. But an average Israeli would argue that countries that are attacking them are the ones they are currently attacking. They have some parts of Lebanon and all but they argue that they are there to prevent constant attacks. Egypt was a sworn enemy of Israel but since they committed to true peace (even though they hate Israel, they stay away from them), there have been no war between both entities in the past couple of decades. You can’t be fighting against them actively and cry when they occupy your land to repel those attacks. It’s wrong to suggest that Iran have never attacked. They are the largest sponsors of entities tagged as terrorist organization like the Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah that not only cause menace to Israel but also cause trouble in the region. If you think the reason for the endless war is that Benjamin Netanyahu wants to prolong his case endlessly, then Hamas should drop their weapons and take the amnesty deal. If they do and Israel still fights on, it would be clear that your point holds merit. |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Lookmun: 4:41pm On Mar 30 |
HenryWilliams:There are thousands of religions in the world today. If you say the US are behind these evil happenings, how come the Muslims are always willing tools? From Hamas to Houthis to Hezbollah to Al Qaeda to Boko Baram to ISWAP. Islamists have the most prominent terrorist groups in the world by far. Why are they always willing tools for the west to perpetuate their selfish agenda? Why don’t we have many Chinese or German or Greek terrorist groups causing mayhem to innocent civilians and the regions around them? The answer is found in the kind of radicalization that happens with young minds in the regions. They are taught by their book and tutors to be radical in ways similar to their most hallowed prophet. This is where the main issue lies. |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Lookmun: 4:48pm On Mar 30 |
kmaster007:I’m no fan of Benjamin Netanyahu but he would argue that he thought Hamas would reform to a responsible government and so tried to encourage it to. While I don’t even buy this excuse from him, does that excuse Hamas from killing innocent civilians on October 7th? If Israel allowed money to be channeled to them via Qatar and they used to money to develop secret terrorist weaponry, why blame Israel but excuse Qatar and the actual perpetrators - Iran? |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by chronique(m): 5:02pm On Mar 30 |
Lookmun:Hezbolah is not a terrorist group. Hezbolah was founded in 1982 as a result of Israeli occupation of Lebanon and the group fought to push out Israel from its occupied territories. The western media narrative is what tends to portray hezbolah as terrorists. Hezbolah is a political party in Lebanon and has representatives in the Lebanese parliament. Hezbolah doesn't operate outside the shores of Lebanon. Israel has invaded Lebanon at least 6 times since 1978. Hamas is a resistant movement that was founded in 1987 against the Israeli occupation of Palestine. Before Hamas, there was also the PLO(Palestine liberation organization) which also fought against Israeli occupation of Palestine. At some point, Israel started funding Hamas secretly against the PLO(divide and rule tactic) so as to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. By funding Hamas, they successfully created different factions of militia in Palestine and in the 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections, Hamas won majority of the seats. At the end of the day, both the Hamas, Fattah group, hezbolah, PLO and other groups, were founded in response to Israeli occupation of the lands of Lebanon and Palestine. A lot of people talk about October 7th without realizing the events that led to that attack. Isreal had been randomly arresting Palestinians, killing and raping the prisoners. The female prisoners were subjected to sexual abuses and even kids were detained/shot dead by Israeli soldiers. Israeli occupation forces also encouraged their citizens to take over Palestinian lands, farms and houses. They were supported with military backing to carry out all these atrocities. While all of these happened, the whole world watched and did nothing. The result of that, was the October 7th attack on Israel. The politics of that region has seen both actors(Israelis and Palestinians) engage in activities that would qualify as terrorists acts in a bid to fight against the other. None of them are completely innocent but the fact is that Israel has been the major cause of the problem. Before October 7th, international efforts were made to allow Jerusalem be owned by both Palestinians and Israelis but the Israelis didn't want that. Israel wanted the whole of Jerusalem as their undivided capital while the Palestinians were OK with having east Jerusalem as the capital of the future Palestine state. Both sides lay claim to this city and this disagreement, affected international efforts to resolve this conflict. The Yemeni Houthis too is a resistant militia group in Yemen with similar operations like hezbolah. Iran's support for these groups as proxies initially was to help them fight and stand alone for the liberation of their territories but eventually turned out to proxies used in fighting Israel as the conflict between Israel and Iran deepened. As for the current Islamic regime, they never imposed themselves on the Persians/Iranians. After the Islamic revolution of 1979 during which the shah who was hated by his people, ran away on exile and never came back, the new leadership conducted an election to create the Islamic republic of Iran and majority of the citizens overwhelmingly voted for the new Iran. Whenever we are discussing issues like this in public, it is important that we have the facts of the matter at hand so we don't misinform others. Islam was not forced on Iranians. They voted for the new republic and chose their fate. This is something that you can research yourself on the internet. On the issue of Hamas leading Palestine over the Palestinian authority, this is my take. If there is a genuine international effort to mandate Israel to abide by whatever settlement that is just and negotiated by the international community, Hamas would have no option other than to relinquish the control of Gaza. Remember that Hamas only came into existence in a bid to fight for their lands. They were not initially created to rule over territories. Who would you choose between Iran that only supports Hamas/hezbolah and Houthis(resistant groups fighting for their lands) , and the US & Israel that supports Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Boko haram, HTS, and Co(terrorists groups carrying out terrorists acts globally across borders)? I hope you know the current president of Syria was once an Al-Qaeda/HTS terrorist that the US put a 50m dollar bounty on initially, but eventually used him to topple Assad(former Syrian president) and is no longer called a terrorist. |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Kobojunkie: 5:46pm On Mar 30 |
KingOfAmebo:I don't give a flying Bleep about what the pastor knows of does not know, neither do I really care what he thinks. I do know that every nation -- not to be confused with regime here -- has a right to defend itself and it's people from foreign invaders, same as Nigeria has every right to do same, even though the people in power refuse still to do just that. 🥱🥱 |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by kmaster007: 6:33pm On Mar 30 |
They no what dey are doing. Best no to them Lookmun: |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Lookmun: 6:44pm On Mar 30 |
chronique:Hezbollah is considered a terrorist group by no less than 65 countries. Though some of these countries distinguish between their military arm and their government arm but their leadership arm will never dissociate themselves from the dastardly acts not only against the west but also against counties within the region like Kuwait assassination plot, support for Shiite military groups that cause destabilization in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain, weapons smuggling and training of insurgents, aggression towards Sunni led governments in the gulf region. Israel would argue that the PLO, based in southern Lebanon, was launching rocket and guerrilla attacks into northern Israel, threatening civilian populations as they reason for their occupation. That say that the invasion was aimed at pushing PLO forces away from the Israeli border and establishing a “security zone” in southern Lebanon, etc. I agree with you that Israel’s funding of Hamas was aimed at ensuring that the region is divided. This along with the activities going on in the West Bank and the sexual atrocities committed by the Israeli army against Palestinian prisoners are the areas that I come hard against Israel. But Hamas should also be called out for their atrocities too. In other words, everything is not all about Israel-Palestine. Hamas’s activities in Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula and cooperation with extremists groups have led to attacks on Egyptian soldiers and civilians. Their actions have been partly responsible for the destabilization in Sudan and Syria too. Need I say more about the Houthis and their atrocities in Yemen and beyond, including indiscriminate shelling of civilians, arbitrary detention, torture, enforced disappearances, recruitment of child soldiers, and cross-border attacks on Saudi Arabia and Red Sea shipping? Your point that Israel didn’t want a divided capital a reason for the prolonged conflict is not accurate. Ehud Barak wanted this but his offers got rejected. I wouldn’t agree that Israel is the main barrier to peace because if you say that Israel is fighting against lots of countries in the region they’ll say that they are fighting because they are being fought. Thousands of missiles launched against them and what not. They are not fighting against counties that are committed to true peace with them (like Egypt whom they disagree with ideologically but mutually respect). If you bring about the Nakba, they’ll tell you that that event was within the context of war. The Arab states were fully against the establishment of a Jewish state. they claim that the land was theirs and that Jews had been wiped out of the land thousands of years ago but that’s not correct. Jews never left the land, they were only in the minority and legitimately sought to be re-united in parts of their traditional home land. Did they deserve a land of their own? Yes they did but this never sat well with the Arabs who initiated attacks and then cried foul when attacked back. After the Shah fell, Ayatollah Khomeini and the clerical establishment sidelined or repressed non-Islamist factions, consolidating control under a theocratic model. Secular parties, leftist groups, and women’s rights activists were banned, imprisoned, or executed in the early 1980s. The media was crushed to powder. Even though elections exist, real competition is tightly controlled, reinforcing the sense that clerics imposed themselves rather than allowing pluralism. Again I say that you want to blame US for support of Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Boko haram, HTS? That’s hypocritical. These organizations publicly declare loyalty to Muslim causes and oppose western causes. US and Israel’s actions or inactions may have directly or indirectly encouraged their spread but fundamentally, these organizations have a mindset of undoing western civilizations in favour of Muslim ones. They do not shout “Jesus is Lord” or “Hail Buddha” but “Alahu Akbar.” It’s convenient to blame the west but what about the clerics that teach them to be violent? What about the creed of some of these organizations that spell out clearly that they are not only in this because of hatred for the Jews but they are in it because they are against the non-believers in general? Or is it America that teaches them suicide bombing? The moderate Muslims are quick to claim that the fundamentalists are not acting in line with the true creed but they do not call out these fundamentalists when they do their dastardly acts the way they express rage when their prophet or holy book is disparaged. It’s an intellectual dishonesty in my and many people’s opinion. |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by Choiceone1: 8:03pm On Mar 30 |
whizzler:They have accepted that one as a mistake |
| Re: Chris Oyakhilome Declares Stance On US-Israel vs Iran by lightwind(m): 10:56pm On Mar 30 |
KingOfAmebo: |
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