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| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by Svoboda(m): 8:29am On Mar 31 |
Akpakomiza2:Thank God you said PROBABLY about Kwankwasos intention. Nobody knows for now, but he's defied your logic by defecting to adc. According to the news, he gave conditions and they were accepted by adc. My argument is that Tinubu has lost grounds in the north. Kwankwaso was a factor in favour of Tinubu. Now, he's no longer so. You don't have to think too far to realize that those who wouldnt vote Tinubu would vote for an Atiku. Ps. Most of apc Kano south senatorial zone are angry with the apc arrangement in Kano which is in favour of gov Abba Kabir Yusuf. |
| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by jamafa: 8:46am On Mar 31 |
yesloaded:You dont know what you are saying. Pdp couldn't achieve anything for 16 years as president. No legacy project, no ministry was working under PDP. At all, at all in Buhari era you can stalk of infrastructure. The current government is building new roads and rehabilitation of existing roads in 36 states at present |
| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by Akpakomiza2: 9:01am On Mar 31 |
Svoboda:He hasn't defied anything. Kwankwaso did not support tinubu in 2023 nor buhari in 2019 so he is discounted. If you look closer, Atiku has lost more grounds in the north than in 2023 and 2019 when he was at his strongest. Kwankwaso probable intentions is to contest with obi or someone else but let's discount him. Gawuna left APC while APC gained Abba Gida and Senator sumaila and 50% of kwankwasiyya elected officials. In kaduna, Atiku gained only El rufai but has lost southern kaduna that has always voted him, lost Makarfi, Senator Hunkuyi, Namadi Sambo, Danjuma laah and most of those who supported him. Kudan supported Atiku in 2023 and 2019 so no difference. In Adamawa, he has lost Governor Fintiri and most of the PDP supporters. Binani supported him in 2023 from APC so no gains. In Kebbi, Tinubu gained the mighty Adamu Aliero and his structures while Malami led the cabal to support Atiku 2023. Where are the gains? I can analyse all the northern states for you to see that Atiku has gone weaker if you want sir. No pathway for Atiku sir. Assuming he manages to win the north, he would be humiliated in every southern state while Tinubu will win many northern states. Even in death, buhari would still clear the north sir. No way for Atiku |
| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by Svoboda(m): 9:30am On Mar 31 |
Akpakomiza2:In 2023, apc had Ganduje and majority of the hoa members but still lost to Kwankwaso in both the presidential and governorship elections. Invariably, Abba Yusuf decamping with 50% of his govt makes no difference. Apc in Kano is divided. Doguwa and others are aggrieved. The old apc members in most states are angry and disenchanted. Atiku didn't win KD south in 2023, but he has Ashiru. But there's no bigger northern persuader, if I'm allowed to use that phrase, than el rufai. Tinubu didn't only lose him. He exposed his treachery to the north. No northern farmer would cast his vote for Tinubu. Right now, Tinubu has trust deficit. Not just that, his trust issues would be mounting now. Thank God the future is pregnant. But one thing I know is that a lot of states even in the south aren't certain for Tinubu. Forget about the noise. Can Tinubu get 25% in the se with obi on the ballot? That's a capital no for me. |
| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by WiseBizInvestor(f): 10:35am On Mar 31 |
😳😂So a'a It's obtainable in football and other sports, is this the winter or summer transfer window in the Nigerian political ecosystem? 🤔 yesloaded: |
| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by Akpakomiza2: 11:21am On Mar 31 |
Svoboda:Is ADC not divided? Are there not also having numerous court cases? This divide in APC has always been there even from after 2015 victory. So many of those disgruntled members will still prefer Tinubu who treats politicians better than Atiku who discards his allies. Imagine Fintiri and okowa dumping atiku, what is more humiliating? You can't use that to gauge sir. El rufai lost kaduna so where is the persuasion? Atiku didn't win Southern kaduna but he beat Tinubu there. If obi hadn't contest, he would have won. A lot in the north don't really trust or like Tinubu same as they don't like Atiku so it is even. In the absence of Buhari, kwankwaso is the king of the north. Tinubu was never going to win Kano with kwankwaso contesting but Atiku as a northerner should have gotten 25% but he failed woefully, the only state he failed in the entire core north. Why can't you see the brutal truth? In sokoto, Abubakar Gada has dumped Atiku. Tambuwal used incumbency to narrowly deliver the state, that's now gone. APC is intact. In zamfara, Governor Lawal is gone alongside most of those who supported Atiku. In Katsina, Lado Dan marke, Dahiru mangal , Ibrahim shema have dumped Atiku. The emir of Daura publicly endorsed Tinubu, this is massive and unprecedented. In Jigawa, Lamido has abandoned Atiku. The emir of Hadejia endorsed Tinubu. I can go on and on. Atiku camp is bleeding more sir... An average northern peasant or farmer would vote a simple minded, incorrupt, mass oriented, Islamic radicals candidate. Kwankwaso is the closest to that. Atiku doesn't represent that so nothing for Atiku sir. The northern voters have always been influenced by their clerics, emirs and politicians and most are with Tinubu. Atiku can only manage a narrow victory... Except obi is pairing with Atiku which is unlikely , Tinubu will massacre Atiku everywhere down south and even north central. It will be like 2011 polls. You saw how the fct polls and other bye elections went. The nation still love APC sir |
| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by Svoboda(m): 11:52am On Mar 31 |
Akpakomiza2:Fintiri was never atikus man. With or without him, Atiku will sweep what he wants. Sokoto apc is divided. They held a parallel congress. Senator Lamido is defecting. Badarus one foot is out of apc in jigawa. Tinubu didn't win KD, but Elrufai helped him over the line with almost 400k votes. What even makes you think all the northern apc govs will work for Tinubu? The only factor that worked against Atiku in 2023 was buharis last minute endorsement of Atiku. This time, there's no Buhari to help him. Even down south, delta apc is divided. I told you something before. Let's see how many northern candidates will campaign with Tinubus poster or wear his chain insignia cap for their campaign. |
| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by Akpakomiza2: 12:59pm On Mar 31 |
Svoboda:Lol, a last minute endorsement that was missed by millions of bubarists? If delta APC is divided, does ADC even exist in delta? Delta APC has been divided from 2019 between the Emerhor/ Keyamo/ Agege faction which forced ogboru to defect. Tinubu lost there so it doesn't matter but this time he will at least get 25%, Atiku nothing. Sokoto APC is not divided, it is completely in the hands of Wamakko/ Aliyu. Senator Lamido is nobody, he was made by Wamakko and will be buried. It is even ADC that is divided... Badaru for now is in APC, if he goes, Lamido and saminu turaki are coming. Governor Umar Namadi is in total contro. Atiku lost here which is very basl. In 2023, how many northern candidates campaign with Tinubu pix? Did it make any difference? Look at the recent ADC membership registration, the highest numbers are from Adamawa, kaduna, Bauchi and Gombe and these states gave Atiku his highest votes in 2023. No new changes for Atiku.his support base is stagnant.Membership in the south is abysmal.. Obidients have shown multiple times that 95% of them will only vote for Obi. If obi is not on the ticket as president, sorry for Atiku. Even if obi is on as running mate, at least 50% won't vote which means some states like Ebonyi, imo and Enugu may tilt to Tinubu and worse in the south south. By now you know south south is controlled by political gladiators and all are in APC and eyeing 2031 as running mates. No hope for ADC. Even in the north, many radical voters who would have voted Atiku would be disgusted by obi pairing. Kwankwaso statement in 2022 was very apt.. There has been several bye elections since 2023 and ADC couldn't even win one. Even in Adamawa, ADC lost to APC. When buhari was president, APC nevee won any staggered election in Adamawa or Taraba. You want to joke with Tinubu? Everyone will hustle for votes to impress him.. Fintiri being Atiku man or not means nothing as far as they where in same party and he helped Atiku one way or the other. El rufai was never Tinubu man and he didn't hide it but are you not the one preaching about his efforts? Most of those who helped buhari in 2015 including Tinubu never liked him, I am surprised you are raising this. Fintiri controls a large amount of indigenous Christian voters in Adamawa in case you don't know esp in madagali/ michika, toungo, guyuk, lamurde, Song ,hong axis which will hurt Atiku. Abdulazeez Nyarko who is popular in Adamawa central and Mayo belwa has joined APC... In 2023, most northern governors where not seeking reelection and could afford to betray Tinubu but they didn't. Now that most are seeking reelection, they are stuck with Tinubu. In 2023, Atiku had up to 10 govs yet he failed. How much more now. We know people like Buni, Sule, Inuwa yahaya might have sabotaged Tinubu bought it doesn't matter. Sometimes I even feel El rufai worked against Tinubu last minute |
| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by Svoboda(m): 1:22pm On Mar 31 |
Akpakomiza2:Fingers crossed. |
| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by yesloaded: 1:59pm On Mar 31 |
jamafa:You think I will argue with you? Try harder 😂 |
| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by Akpakomiza2: 2:18pm On Mar 31 |
Svoboda:Not yet. I am not done. No ticket can defeat Tinubu though the best combo will be Atiku/Obi... In Yobe, all the gladiators are in APC. But there are suspecting Buni so Senator Geidam is there to neutralize him. The Machina/ Lawan feud is settled. In Borno, same thing. The Kanuris are totally with Tinubu unless shettima is dropped. In Bauchi, Dogara who supported Atiku is back with Tinubu. Bala has left atiku. Mohammed Sadiq supported Atiku while in APC so his move means nothing . In Gombe, Goje may join ADC but it is obvious he was against Tinubu. He is a long time atiku boy. The people of Gombe central including the Emirs of Yamaltu deba and Akko have called for the retirement Goje. The popular Isiaka Gwamna and Abubakar Barde are with Tinubu. Pantami who worked with the cabal has pledged loyalty to Tinubu. In Taraba, all the juggernauts are with Tinubu. Even T. Y Danjuma seems to move towards Tinubu which means Atiku has lost Taraba for the first time. We have said enough about Adamawa... Tinubu is a politician's delight, an average politician will prefer to work with Tinubu than Atiku who plays mercantilist politics. He uses his followers during elections and abandons them. He believes everything is transactional, no loyalty. Tinubu on the other hand has cultivated long time loyalty. Even so many critics admit Tinubu assisted them in the past... Most of the Apc chapters having issues are over local matters, they are united for Tinubu. Infact Tinubu is so good at fence mending that he gets different opponents even in opposition to work for him. Look at Suswam in pdp who worked for Atiku aligning with Tinubu, Muazu Aliyu also. Atiku is divisive, cannot resolve party issues. Tinubu isn't perfect but is far better than Atiku |
| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by Svoboda(m): 7:01pm On Mar 31 |
Akpakomiza2:Eulogies for Tinubu? Time will tell. Even an APC chieftain said today that many of his appointees and governors aren't loyal to him. All I know is that Tinubu has lost more than he had in the north in 23. |
| Re: Amaechi Arrives Kano Ahead Of Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC (photos) by Akpakomiza2: 7:20pm On Mar 31 |
Svoboda:A disgruntled APC member? There are even more betrayers around Atiku. You are assuming without clear facts sir. Finally in the NC, Saraki is no more with Atiku. Lai Mohammed is begging to come back. ADC is empty in kwara. For Niger, Atiku's supporters Muazu Aliyu and Zainab kure have endorsed Tinubu. The senator representing Niger south Peter Jiya just joined APC rather than ADC. In Kogi, the Wadas are shifting towards Tinubu. Ofcourse here is a no go area for Atiku. In plateau, all the who is who defected with Muftwang to APC. ADC is empty here. With the recent massacre by suspected herdsmen, Atiku is bad news. In nasarawa, the popular senator Wadada has pledged loyalty to Tinubu alongside Hon Gaza. Sen Adamu and Gov Sule where suspected of sabotaging Tinubu 2023 so no issue. In Benue, they are all struggling to impress tinubu. Suswam that was with Atiku has dumped him alongside senator morro. Even David Mark daughter isn't stimulating. Mark is in his own. Anyway you already admitted that Atiku has no chance in north Central. Just today, 14 reps mostly from the north joined APC. 8 joined Adc. Nigerians still prefer APC to any other new evil. |
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