₦airaland Forum

jchioma:
according to residents, the Police were nowhere to be found as they all ran away.

VOsimhen144:
Bandits na their papa mate?

na only for yahoo boys dem dey show their power

elpochas:
Na Normal Normal na,Who wan die na.If them die na who go feed there Family na.

Thundafireseun:
And some people are advocating for state policing

Reference:
The police have no stake in that community that's why. I keep on telling you guys. Security is local, domesticated at the point of the crime.

If the policemen were from that town, that community and they were living down the streets and everyone knew them by name, knew which markets their wives shopped and where their children schooled and which place of worship the family attended they will certainly not run. Run to where as stakeholders and defenders of their communities indeed.

Look folks. There is NO substitute for local government and state police. It is clear to the blind and audible to the deaf that this system we practice is just not fit for purpose. It expired the day we declared our independence from Britain.

The system we practice was enough to run the colonial administration and keep the people in line under central authority. The years of escalating poverty induced criminality saturating the land and growing extremism popping up in every corner has exposed the system as grossly inadequate.

richiemcgold:
Your point is of no relevance to my opinion. You are off point. Sorry to say. Bye.

Mrtaye:
we don't need state police because politicians will easily manipulate them

lawani:
I wanted to tell him the same thing

Lagos does not need more than 50k police to start with and total salary can't exceed 200 billion naira per annum. 50k assault rifles is less than 50 billion and you can't use ammo of 50 billion naira a year. Total 300 billion naira. Other expenses are not much. Even if you need armoured cars, you won't need much

MadamVanessa:
A reminder that President Ahmed Bola Tinubu is yet to address the nation or condole with people of plateau state, and you want me to to believe that such a clown is a leader.

Let President Trump just cough now on the matter, that's when you'll see the frogish eyes clown writing epistles upon epistles on twitter and sitting down like someone suffering from down syndrome sickness speaking incoherently In the name of addressing the nation.


I don't know why president Trump just completely gone mute on Nigerian Christian genocide. I really don't know why. There's no Nigerian leader that will speak for poor Nigerian Christians.

sulaak:
If the federal police is a failure, why shouldn't they advocate for state police? The people will be responsible for the local security architecture

nairalanda1:
A state police to work well as you would want it to would cost far far more than that, young man.

Far far more.

You got to pay for good police stations, good police cars...not a hilux, a proper police car, you got to pay for better weapons, not just assault weapons, and you got to pay for a host of other things...like good detention facilities, and good enough forensic and training facilites.

It all adds up. A lot

You also need to fund a marine wing, find money for drones and helicopters, and so forth.

State police costs money. A lot of money.

CodeTemplar:
hear yourself. They are paid to die and should die trying as professionals.

lawani:
How old are you that you are calling me a young man? I am 46.
I am talking mainly about operations cost and not establishment cost which is a one off. One year operations cost will be more than enough as establishment cost. Lagos state police will never need more than 500 billion naira a year if up to that and the majority of expenses will be salaries. How much is even the budget of the NPF and the army with their high number of personnel?

Start with how much is the budget of even the Nigerian army and divide it by twenty

nairalanda1:
Because in your responses to me you are being patronising.

And you also talked about me with a put downish mentality behind my back

For someone your age that's sad

lawani:
Put downish? Sorry about that. I never meant that. I however mentioned you here and not behind your back. I don't know your name or anything to talk about about you behind your back. I can see that you are actually the younger man. Only a young man can be quoting such ridiculously high figures as being required to run a police department of a small state.

nairalanda1:
Well, I know I am right when I believe that it would cost states to pay for state police a lot of money. I deal in realism, and most Nigerians are not very realistic.

They believe that a state police can be funded from securitry votes. It cannot, and it would not work very well.

(I'm also not younger than you, darling )

lawani:
You can't run a police department with security vote of course because with a police department you are substantially increasing the size of your civil service as a state. It can be as much as ten percent more and your expenses will increase accordingly. That is all there is to it

greatermax77:
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You must be very foolish to say this, are they soldiers? How much is the government paying them to die for the nation. Swear, if you are in their shoes, you won't run away?
They are seeing the kind of suffering, the retired officers are passing through and you want them to come and die for this kind country?
We are not yet ready

Thundafireseun:
A governor in charge of state policing with immunity from prosecution… what do you think will happen?

Federal Police will be in charge of training the state police… where the federal police ran away, do you honestly believe that the state police will stand there ??

discusant:
Lesson for those in the south of Nigeria who don't understand that at the appointed period, these Islamists will come in a blitzkreig. A few armed terrorists can conquer the whole of Southern Nigeria in a few days.

nairalanda1:
Because all states cannot afford the kind of state police that would take care of bandits and regular armed robbery.

To police Jos alone, an indigenous state police of plateau would need a budget that surpasses the state's total budget.

State police is not formed by spending from security vote..infact the security vote won't be enough. self. For an effective force for plateau, the state would need upwards of 6 or more trillion naira, if not more. That would go into buying drones, tactical gear, training facilites, detention facilites, police cars, communications equipment, arms(sensible arms, not AK 47 that looks like it was made in 1847), armoured vehicles, helicopters..yes helicopters...and we haven't even talked about the things like forensic labs, digital records, prision facilites, even training more judges, and so forth that the state needs to do. Even things like street lights, and CCTV cameras are necessary, and so forth.

A lot of you that shout for state police, just know that na politics people dey play, especially APC. Unless you want a state police that would be knocked away by bandits wielding SMG's and RPG's on the backs of technicals or one that is just Nigeria police part 2...just know that no state can even afford any police force.

We can afford it, if everyone pays taxes. Taxes that you Nigerians don't like paying. Taxes that would make you to shout that the person proposing it is an oppressor. Yet, the government, before any looting commences, has a limited budget of less than 3 trillion naira to police 230 million people. It is just that there aren't too many bandits, and then there is the army, otherwise bandits would have long since been running the country from Aso Villa alongside Boko haram and millitants.

Make we dey face reality. Unless all of you are ready to pay the kind of taxes that they pay in saner climes, nothing for effective state police.

sulaak:
Nigeria is at war with jihadist from the North, the state policie is are potetial security agency that would be trainined to protectn us from Jihadist

nairalanda1:
Yes but it's going to cost a lot of money to get them to that level

Note that I am not saying no to.state police. I'm saying no to a state police that would be wiped out by well armed jihadi fighters because the budget for the state police is severely malnourished

nairalanda1:
Yes but it's going to cost a lot of money to get them to that level

Note that I am not saying no to.state police. I'm saying no to a state police that would be wiped out by well armed jihadi fighters because the budget for the state police is severely malnourished

sulaak:
State police will mean that we will hold the state governor and local politicians accountable.