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Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy - Politics (2) - Nairaland

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Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by Eagleways: 4:45pm On Apr 01
nairalanda1:
The man is right, but the thing is, we should be planning for a crude oil reserve, not a petrol reserve.

Right, time to annoy gej supporters into calling me tinubu supporters.

1. If we want to subsidise oil to N200 as most people want it to be, we would have to spend 17.6 trillion naira this year.

2.Oil windfall will add some 9 trillion for budget funding. ie reduce dependence on borrowing for budget

3. So, at 60 million liters per day, a subsidy to N200 per liter, would mean that we would pay the above

4. Add smuggling and we would end up spending like 30 trillion

5. Budget is 55 trillion naira

6. That means we would take money from many sectors of the budget and use it to fund the subsidy. And borrow to replace the money to add to our debt.

7. That is why tinubu was WRONG TO OPPOSE SUBSIDY REMOVAL IN 2012...because the same argument applies here. And because of that...we had more and more debt...which forced tinubu to remove subsidy in 2023 (karma does deal with someone).


If after reading the above, you come and call me a tinubu supporter, then that means that there is something the matter with you, not with me

My eyes were opened in 2011. They can never be shut again.

8. Your tinubu and buhari failed by not diversifying the economy. This would have allowed NIgeria to by now have some cash for limited subsides at least.

We agree the government has failed, just have different ways of saying it.
Oga, the trillions they didn't spend because they were avoiding giving us oil at ₦200, WHERE IS IT?
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by Fujiyama:
geoworldedu:
Chai. That's why I laugh and spit on the heads of the gullibles who believed that if Tinubu should remove fuel subsidy and float the dollar, Nigeria will progress. Padding the dollar-naira rate and offering fuel subsidy were the only two SCHOLARSHIPS we were receiving from the government from time immemorial. We allowed our carelessness and gullibility to let them remove those two scholarships. . Now the people are learning in the hard way right now grin grin grin
^^^
Those subsidies had to go because they were distorting the economy - that's what the experts said. Ok.

But nothing on earth can justify an oil exporting OPEC member being in the position Nigeria is currently in. Nothing whatsoever.

I expected the 'honourable' minister of petroleum to give his countrymen regular updates on the progress of local refining capacity - because that's where the solution lies. Instead, he has said absolutely nothing. The latest news is that he has issued new fuel import licences (to a favoured few, no doubt) and their cargo vessels have already landed at Apapa. undecided

So a war in far away Iran is costing ordinary Nigerians big money at the petrol station pumphead - when this country has crude underneath her soil. undecided It makes no sense.

We were told the removal of subsidies would 'spur new investment', 'remove distortions', etc. But Nigerians have not been given any updates on this. Where is the progress update on local refining capacity?

The anti-subsidy people on this platform have gone eerily quiet. They passionately fought the subsidy war and won it - but the peace isn't looking like what they promised us. All they do now is speak vaguely about 'industrialization' and 'diversification' but the fire has gone out of their rhetoric. They are in the same position as those Libyan 'revolutionaries' who insisted that Ghaddafi had to go - without a clear plan for their country, post-Ghaddafi. Is Libya better off today? undecided

The devil is always in the details.

Nigeria is back to import licensing again. grin Over 40 years ago, Shagari was dragged through the mud (and rightly so) for the disaster that his import licensing regime brought upon this country. BAT has decided to take us back down that path again.

The more things change...the more they remain the same.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by nairalanda1(m): 4:48pm On Apr 01
Eagleways:
Oga, the trillions they didn't spend because they were avoiding giving us oil at ₦200, WHERE IS IT?
Went to your salaries and debt servicing

All.because your Tinubu hasn't diversified us away from.oil.

Vote out APC next year please
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by Eagleways: 4:49pm On Apr 01
Osidazz19:
The Us with the largest oil production and largest refineries cannot manage fuel prices. What a clown
The US produce more oil than any other country, the US has more refineries than any other country yet I just paid about 4 dollars for a gallon of low grade fuel for my car this morning.
High grade cost me about 6 dollars over the weekend.
dey for oshodi under bridge dey deceive yourself. Your eye go soon clear.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by nairalanda1(m): 4:49pm On Apr 01
themanderon:
I knew you would be here defending rubbish as usual.
I also know that you were backing Tinubu in 2011 against GEJ which is a part of why we are here
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by nairalanda1(m): 4:51pm On Apr 01
Tenses:
You hypocrite.

Did you say Peter Obi is right when he made the same accusation to the federal government.

When PO said lack of strategic planning by the tinubu led government is the reason for the hike in pump price. Did you agree with him?

Because a white man said the same thing PO said earlier on you are nodding your head in agreement like an exhausted agama lizard.

I have told you that PO is way way ahead of you lots. That includes your tinubu.
Where have I ever said such about Obi?

And haven't I shown you by my comment why APC is a mess?

It is because you want cheap fuel that you think anyone who says subsidy must go is a Tinubu supporter. Even when I tell ya that I wasn't in 2011 or now.

No party, either the one in government or the one out of it knows what to do..

Even then, vote out APC. If the new people don't perform , vote them out
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by nairalanda1(m): 4:52pm On Apr 01
Badb0y4lyf:
Nairaland1 the oil cabal Bot” if you doubt me create a topic relating to oil, petroleum or subsidy he would miraculously show up quoting Jargons as to why the regime policy on oil and subsidy is the best thing after slice bread.
So you backed Tinubu in 2011 when he called for subsidy to remain.

Also, how is your husband doing?.I hope he is fine.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by themanderon: 4:53pm On Apr 01
The government has so deceived the citizens and made them believe we are a poor country forgetting that the little resources we get is being lavished by the few crooks in power.
It might interest you to know that Nigeria is making a kill from crude sales because of the war, yet the same government is still borrowing to do God knows what.
What has been the impact of all those billions borrowed by Buhari and Tinubu? Where has the money gone to? Is it power generation? Road construction? Or to service themselves? Where?
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by Bizibi(m): 4:56pm On Apr 01
givedemwotowoto:
Since you know exactly what you're talking about and not just echoing some government propaganda, explain this:

- Oil companies pay for almost all of the drilling cost and take about 40% - 50% of the oil as compensation. Nigeria takes at least 50% of the oil.

- Before Nigeria had a refinery, it will export the oil abroad to be refined at the prevailing oil price, then import the refined petrol. To sell it cheaper to Nigerians, it will pay for the difference in price.

- Today, Nigeria has the capacity to refine all the oil that Nigerians consume locally, so no need to export crude and import petrol.

So without speaking too much grammar, explain very clearly in simple terms, where the N17.6 trillion naira subsidy payment will come from. There has to be some secret we're missing that you know about.
abeg leave that one......as long as Nigeria does not invest in owning assets it will be the same bs result. A nation borrows money to fund budget but can't invest in building infrastructures in the oil industry will always face problems.

The money is there but greed is one big problem.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by keemsleek(m): 4:56pm On Apr 01
Tenses:
Trash as usual from extremely deception tinubu laptop boy.
Lol has usual. Staying for the truth means everyone is what ever u call it but first verify what I said. School is not a scam. Have a lovely day
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by zoedew: 4:57pm On Apr 01
givedemwotowoto:
Tibor Nagy was former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs under President Trump (2018–2021)



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You can say that again! Bunch of inept and corrupt fellows!!
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by LabStores: 5:01pm On Apr 01
God bless you sir for this tweet.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by geoworldedu: 5:02pm On Apr 01
Fujiyama:
^^^
Those subsidies had to go because they were distorting the economy - that's what the experts said. Ok.

But nothing on earth can justify an oil exporting OPEC member being in the position Nigeria is currently in. Nothing whatsoever.

I expected the 'honourable' minister of petroleum to give his countrymen regular updates on the progress of local refining capacity - because that's where the solution lies. Instead, he has said absolutely nothing. The latest news is that he has issued new fuel import licences to a favoured few, no doubt - and their vessels have already landed at Apapa with their cargo. undecided

So a war in far away Iran is costing ordinary Nigerians big money at the petrol station pumphead - when this country has its own oil underneath her soil. undecided It makes no sense.

We were told the removal of subsidies would 'spur new investment', 'remove distortions', etc. But Nigerians have not been given any updates on this. Where is the progress update on local refining capacity?

The anti-subsidy people on this platform have gone eerily quiet. They passionately fought the subsidy war and won it - but the peace isn't looking like what they promised. All they do now is speak vaguely about 'industrialization' and 'diversification' but the fire has gone out of them. They are in the same position as those revolutionaries who insisted that Ghaddafi had to go - without a clear plan for the country post Ghaddafi. Is Libya better off today?

The devil is always in the details.

Nigeria is back to import licensing again. grin Over 40 years ago, Shagari was dragged through the mud (and rightly so) for the disaster that his import licensing regime brought upon this country. BAT has decided to take us back down that path again.

The more things change...the more they remain the same.
Now that the subsidies are gone, how has it bettered the lives of the citizens? grin grin

Scholarship is called scholarship for a reason. It benefits the receiver and doesn't benefit the giver. Now the receiver with or without giving out the scholarship has a lot of cash available to do good, but the scholarship not available will wreck and is wrecking the citizens who don't have it anymore. It's a pity.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by Jayhome24: 5:03pm On Apr 01
So US that used to buy a galon for $1+ and now buying it $4+ going to $5 can't manage anything ba?

Mr man you are stew-pid. Why not bring your unai out to come and manage Nigeria for us or is your paleh nor be Nigerian?
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by aywagze(m): 5:12pm On Apr 01
This is honestly a far cry ! ..🤔
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by Kukutente23: 5:15pm On Apr 01
Osidazz19:
The Us with the largest oil production and largest refineries cannot manage fuel prices. What a clown
The US produce more oil than any other country, the US has more refineries than any other country yet I just paid about 4 dollars for a gallon of low grade fuel for my car this morning.
High grade cost me about 6 dollars over the weekend.
You even hv options. Lucky you
Clown
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by Kukutente23: 5:18pm On Apr 01
CaseSensitive:
Nigerian government can't manage anything because Nigeria is not a truly sovereign nation - it has never been.

Food? - Imported (Nigeria has arable land that’s more than enough for self sustainability)

Energy? - Imported (Nigeria has crude oil and gas, enough for self sustainability)

Religion? - Imported (Different ethnicity in Nigeria has their belief system until foreign religion took hold and now a major cause of instability)

Language? - Imported (Any Nigerian language spoken in Nigerian schools is vernacular)

Names? - Imported (Athena, Nathan, Chantelle sounds a lot more trendier and woke than Tolulade, Chukwuemeka or Oghenetega)

Steel and machineries? - Imported (Ajaokuta steel plant is still on its knees)

Governmental style? - Imported (Democracy hasn’t done much for the progress of Nigeria)

Until Nigeria reduces reliance on the outside world and revisit the foundation of certain elements, we will keep going round and round in circles.
Even casesensitive as a moniker is imported
Practice what you preach!!
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by boxypane: 5:18pm On Apr 01
I weep for my country. Corruption by our useless leaders is so deep. Rather than waste that money on the useless NNPC refineries, why not build reservoirs?
Clueless, corrupt, selfish and self centered leaders. Both the ones in power and the ones outside trying to grab. They are all diseases.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by Misterone: 5:22pm On Apr 01
Oga has collected lobby money from IPOB. Even with the increment, PMS in Nigeria is still the cheapest in West Africa. Why is this so?
Other countries were paying more than necessary before. Now that there's a global issue, those countries just maintained their prices because the increment was not up to what they were paying before.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by SonOfWords(m): 5:38pm On Apr 01
Badb0y4lyf:
Nairaland1 the oil cabal Bot” if you doubt me create a topic relating to oil, petroleum or subsidy he would miraculously show up quoting Jargons as to why the regime policy on oil and subsidy is the best thing after slice bread.
I no dey answer am again.

He v*mits consistent r*bbish whenever the discourse shifts to petrol, as if he's more economically informed and market aware than every user on nairaland.

He's so cocooned to his own focal point of understanding as regards that matter that he's become intolerably shut off from new knowledge.

One is almost forced to agree it's not a human behind that keypad.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by givedemwotowoto(op): 5:42pm On Apr 01
Osidazz19:
The Us with the largest oil production and largest refineries cannot manage fuel prices. What a clown
The US produce more oil than any other country, the US has more refineries than any other country yet I just paid about 4 dollars for a gallon of low grade fuel for my car this morning.
High grade cost me about 6 dollars over the weekend.
Most US refineries were built to refine heavy crude which mainly comes from countries like Canada, Mexico and Venezuela, so U.S still imports crude oil to meet refinery requirements. Because the imported crude is bought at prevailing global prices, price fluctuations will affect local prices at the gas stations

On the contrary, Nigeria’s crude is mostly light crude and Nigeria has the capacity to refine 100% of its local crude oil to meet local consumption needs.

You’re living in the US and defending the corruption and greed that you escaped from in your home country. Pathetic!
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by CaseSensitive(m): 6:02pm On Apr 01
Kukutente23:
Even casesensitive as a moniker is imported
Practice what you preach!!

Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by Kukutente23: 6:05pm On Apr 01
Misterone:
Oga has collected lobby money from IPOB. Even with the increment, PMS in Nigeria is still the cheapest in West Africa. Why is this so?
Other countries were paying more than necessary before. Now that there's a global issue, those countries just maintained their prices because the increment was not up to what they were paying before.
Where did you get this funny idea from? So all other countries in Africa were overpaying for fuel except Nigeria? Wonderful
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by udemzyudex(m): 6:25pm On Apr 01
Osidazz19:
Obi that can't even improve his own life and that of his people his going to do magic and improve Nigeria.we might as well allow portable to be President then. They are both clowns and can promise you heaven and Earth.
Data boy, are you better than Obi? What have you achieved in your life compared to what Obi have achieved?

Data boy.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by Putinofrussia: 6:34pm On Apr 01
givedemwotowoto:
Tibor Nagy was former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs under President Trump (2018–2021)



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Please sir,what about America that produces almost 10x what Nigeria produces and also has numerous refineries,gas has gone up to $4 from $2 plus.
Nigeria still has one of the lowest price of oil in Africa but the govt should find a way of easing the pain for masses truly.
USA-Israel Iran,stop this war and let the world breath.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by givedemwotowoto(op):
Putinofrussia:
Please sir,what about America that produces almost 10x what Nigeria produces and also has numerous refineries,gas has gone up to $4 from $2 plus.
Nigeria still has one of the lowest price of oil in Africa but the govt should find a way of easing the pain for masses truly.
USA-Israel Iran,stop this war and let the world breath.
Izuchukwu70:
I live in America and the Gas price is the highest in North America. He should look in the mirror.
Most US refineries were built to refine heavy crude which mainly comes from countries like Canada, Mexico and Venezuela, so U.S still imports crude oil to meet refinery requirements. Because the imported crude is bought at prevailing global prices, price fluctuations will affect local prices at the gas stations

On the contrary, Nigeria’s crude is mostly light crude and Nigeria has the capacity to refine 100% of its local crude oil to meet local consumption needs.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by Tenses: 6:56pm On Apr 01
nairalanda1:
Where have I ever said such about Obi?

And haven't I shown you by my comment why APC is a mess?

It is because you want cheap fuel that you think anyone who says subsidy must go is a Tinubu supporter. Even when I tell ya that I wasn't in 2011 or now.

No party, either the one in government or the one out of it knows what to do..

Even then, vote out APC. If the new people don't perform , vote them out
You and PO has the same idealogy to some extent about nation building except from taxation. PO believes taxing the already suffering people is not an ideal method for government to generate revenue but you think otherwise.

Apart from that, you share same ideology with PO.

You: Economy diversification
PO: From consumption to production

My grudge with you is that you bracket PO with other failed politicians.

PO is extraordinary. He has what it takes to transform this country.
Re: Rising Oil Prices: "Nigeria Govt Can’t Manage Anything. Pathetic!" — Tibor Nagy by InvertedHammer: 7:01pm On Apr 01
givedemwotowoto:
Tibor Nagy was former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs under President Trump (2018–2021)



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Lies from the pit of hell!

Nigerian government can manage their pathetic losers well....not when a bag of rice is involved with prepackaged lies and soundbites
from microphones. Throw in N5k and many will swear with their lives that Tinubu's mandate is divine.

Nigerians sure like the way the country is structured. Everyone is waiting for his/her turn to join the looting. Stopping now is too late.
Connection or Corruption? It is a matter of semantics.

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