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If 2015 wasn’t reserved for a Southerner when Jonathan sought re-election, why should 2027 be?


The sudden chorus of “it’s the turn of the South” sounds less like principle and more like political blackmail.

In 2015, when Goodluck Jonathan sought re-election, the APC didn’t feel bound by zoning. They fielded a Northern candidate and won. No outrage. No moral sermon about It's a particular region's turn.

So why should 2027 be different?

Today, zoning is being dressed up as fairness to pressure Nigerians into overlooking harsh socio economic realities under Bola Ahmed Tinubu, rising hardship, worsening insecurity, economic strain and electricity black out. But elections aren’t about geography; they’re about governance.

Let’s be honest: “it’s the turn of the South” is an APC talking point, not a national law. It’s their internal arrangement not a binding rule for other parties like the ADC or for voters.

Just as APC ignored zoning in 2015, others are free to do the same in 2027.

Nigeria isn’t a relay race. No region holds a baton. The only thing that should matter is competence, not convenience.

This appears as merely a prelude to Atiku’s future eventual emergence as the ADC flag bearer. After all the noise and fanfare, Pitobi may well end up as his running mate. And not that Atiku will even win the race.

There’s nothing like it’s the turn of the south. That’s APC party issues.

Anybody can become president as the constitution did not say its turn by turn.

I’m voting anyone but APC.

because at that point the south has already ruled for more than 12 years and the north less than 4 years, it's that simple.

Georgry:
because at that point the south has already ruled for more than 12 years and the north less than 4 years, it's that simple.

now the South has ruled for 17 years North less than 10 years

GEJ was on a borrowed mandate and the moral thing he should have done was to step down in 2015 and allowed the north have their turn back till 23 when it returns south.

This singular factor majorly contributed to gej's loss because the north saw him as treacherous....that was the major ground swell of the opposition against him.

Bobloco:
If 2015 wasn’t reserved for a Southerner when Jonathan sought re-election, why should 2027 be?


The sudden chorus of “it’s the turn of the South” sounds less like principle and more like political blackmail.

In 2015, when Goodluck Jonathan sought re-election, the APC didn’t feel bound by zoning. They fielded a Northern candidate and won. No outrage. No moral sermon about It's a particular region's turn.

So why should 2027 be different?

Today, zoning is being dressed up as fairness to pressure Nigerians into overlooking harsh socio economic realities under Bola Ahmed Tinubu, rising hardship, worsening insecurity, economic strain and electricity black out. But elections aren’t about geography; they’re about governance.

Let’s be honest: “it’s the turn of the South” is an APC talking point, not a national law. It’s their internal arrangement not a binding rule for other parties like the ADC or for voters.

Just as APC ignored zoning in 2015, others are free to do the same in 2027.

Nigeria isn’t a relay race. No region holds a baton. The only thing that should matter is competence, not convenience.

Do they ask other parties not to feed whoever sweet them.
Did ApC imposed their internal arrangement with other political parties.
Let opposition out their house in Order and do the right thing.simple

Please even if it is a goat, let it replace this current clueless government

an earthworm or snake or monkey will do better

this useless government is a burden on Nigeria no matter how they try to package it

Almost 4 years, economy is worse. security the worst

What have they achieved ?

Or when the speakership was zoned to the SW. Mulikat Akande Adeola was meant to be speaker and Tinubu blocked it from happening.

That simgular action didnt allow the SW to have anybody at the very top of courtsey of Tinubu omo olodo ide

Now they are shouting South. It would even have been a competent southerner. But iro ni. The worst president wè have ever had since 1960

Omoboricash:
Do they ask other parties not to feed whoever sweet them.
Did ApC imposed their internal arrangement with other political parties.
Let opposition out their house in Order and do the right thing.simple

It's obvious you didn't read the post but just jumped in like an antelope to spew trash

That’s why Tinubu will easily domesticate his opposition to his second time, EASILY!and why won’t he?? It’s obvious they just want him out as revenge not for any intrest of the country.

Bobloco:
If 2015 wasn’t reserved for a Southerner when Jonathan sought re-election, why should 2027 be?


The sudden chorus of “it’s the turn of the South” sounds less like principle and more like political blackmail.

In 2015, when Goodluck Jonathan sought re-election, the APC didn’t feel bound by zoning. They fielded a Northern candidate and won. No outrage. No moral sermon about It's a particular region's turn.

So why should 2027 be different?

Today, zoning is being dressed up as fairness to pressure Nigerians into overlooking harsh socio economic realities under Bola Ahmed Tinubu, rising hardship, worsening insecurity, economic strain and electricity black out. But elections aren’t about geography; they’re about governance.

Let’s be honest: “it’s the turn of the South” is an APC talking point, not a national law. It’s their internal arrangement not a binding rule for other parties like the ADC or for voters.

Just as APC ignored zoning in 2015, others are free to do the same in 2027.

Nigeria isn’t a relay race. No region holds a baton. The only thing that should matter is competence, not convenience.

Even if Tinubu loses the presidency in 2027, it would be on record that he was the president of Nigeria. He also played smarter than GEJ who spend his time appeasing the North, building almajiri schools and doing things he thought could pave way for his second term, without doing major projects in his region. In the end, the North voted him out.

Tinubu, while strategizing for second term, is still ensuring massive projects are carried out in Lagos. He's constructing the Lagos-Calabar highway, approved a billion dollar light rail in Lagos, billion dollar modernization of Lagos ports, almost a billion dollar upgrade of the Lagos airport and so on. As a strategist, I think he knew that the North might gang up with some Southerner to vote him out.

Why did I state all the above? If Tinubu does not win next year, he would have achieved most of his goals. He would forever be referred to as a former president. Would the same be said of Peter Obi?

When we talk of Southern turn, it is bigger than Tinubu. Is Obi not a Southerner? If you think you want to even the score of 2015 with the SW through Tinubu, good luck to you. A part of me even want it to happen so people like you can enjoy the feeling of revenge.

Just know, the chicken will come home to roost. The Northerners have the history of ganging up with some disaffected Southerners to take over power from the South. They did it in 2015, they are doing it now. Obasanjo, a Southerner, is the only president who was said to have knelt down to his deputy (a Northerner) just to do a second term. They wanted to gang up against him then as well. It is a pattern and it is not going to end soon.

If Obi and his followers gang up with the North to take power to the North, the alliance will not last one term. Another Northerner will gang up with the Yorubas or Ijaw , make a Yoruba/Ijaw man the VP (a useless position) and keep the power in the North. Last last, the South will get sense maybe after 100 years.

Mind you, I prefer Obi, Ameachi or any other Southerner to rule till 2031 than have a Northerner take over next year. The yoke must be broken.

Bobloco:
It's obvious you didn't read the post but just jumped in like an antelope to spew trash

May be you can help me summarize the passage. May be my comprehension is poor. Thank you.

Omoboricash:
May be you can help me summarize the passage. May be my comprehension is poor. Thank you.

Obviously, your compression is very poor and shameful

DoTheNeedful:
Even if Tinubu loses the presidency in 2027, it would be on record that he was the president of Nigeria. He also played smarter than GEJ who spend his time appeasing the North, building almajiri schools and doing things he thought could pave way for his second term, without doing major projects in his region. In the end, the North voted him out.

Tinubu, while strategizing for second term, is still ensuring massive projects are carried out in Lagos. He's constructing the Lagos-Calabar highway, approved a billion dollar light rail in Lagos, billion dollar modernization of Lagos ports, almost a billion dollar upgrade of the Lagos airport and so on. As a strategist, I think he knew that the North might gang up with some Southerner to vote him out.

Why did I state all the above? If Tinubu does not win next year, he would have achieved most of his goals. He would forever be referred to as a former president. Would the same be said of Peter Obi?

When we talk of Southern turn, it is bigger than Tinubu. Is Obi not a Southerner? If you think you want to even the score of 2015 with the SW through Tinubu, good luck to you. A part of me even want it to happen so people like you can enjoy the feeling of revenge.

Just know, the chicken will come home to roost. The Northerners have the history of ganging up with some disaffected Southerners to take over power from the South. They did it in 2015, they are doing it now. Obasanjo, a Southerner, is the only president who was said to have knelt down to his deputy (a Northerner) just to do a second term. They wanted to gang up against him then as well. It is a pattern and it is not going to end soon.

If Obi and his followers gang up with the North to take power to the North, the alliance will not last one term. Another Northerner will gang up with the Yorubas or Ijaw , make a Yoruba/Ijaw man the VP (a useless position) and keep the power in the North. Last last, the South will get sense maybe after 100 years.

Mind you, I prefer Obi, Ameachi or any other Southern to rule till 2031 than have a Northerner take over next year. The yoke must be broken.

It is all politics and any group can gang up with any group. Look for people to gang up with you. Southern Nigeria was never one at any time. Yoruba are the number one by population in the South and number 2 in the North. Any kind of gang up should not be discouraged. It is all part of politics

DoTheNeedful:
Even if Tinubu loses the presidency in 2027, it would be on record that he was the president of Nigeria. He also played smarter than GEJ who spend his time appeasing the North, building almajiri schools and doing things he thought could pave way for his second term, without doing major projects in his region. In the end, the North voted him out.

Tinubu, while strategizing for second term, is still ensuring massive projects are carried out in Lagos. He's constructing the Lagos-Calabar highway, approved a billion dollar light rail in Lagos, billion dollar modernization of Lagos ports, almost a billion dollar upgrade of the Lagos airport and so on. As a strategist, I think he knew that the North might gang up with some Southerner to vote him out.

Why did I state all the above? If Tinubu does not win next year, he would have achieved most of his goals. He would forever be referred to as a former president. Would the same be said of Peter Obi?

When we talk of Southern turn, it is bigger than Tinubu. Is Obi not a Southerner? If you think you want to even the score of 2015 with the SW through Tinubu, good luck to you. A part of me even want it to happen so people like you can enjoy the feeling of revenge.

Just know, the chicken will come home to roost. The Northerners have the history of ganging up with some disaffected Southerners to take over power from the South. They did it in 2015, they are doing it now. Obasanjo, a Southerner, is the only president who was said to have knelt down to his deputy (a Northerner) just to do a second term. They wanted to gang up against him then as well. It is a pattern and it is not going to end soon.

If Obi and his followers gang up with the North to take power to the North, the alliance will not last one term. Another Northerner will gang up with the Yorubas or Ijaw , make a Yoruba/Ijaw man the VP (a useless position) and keep the power in the North. Last last, the South will get sense maybe after 100 years.

Mind you, I prefer Obi, Ameachi or any other Southern to rule till 2031 than have a Northerner take over next year. The yoke must be broken.

All these gibberish won’t still change our mind to gang up with the north to boot out incompetent Tinubu.

There’s no southern unity. There never was.

Bobloco:
If 2015 wasn’t reserved for a Southerner when Jonathan sought re-election, why should 2027 be?


The sudden chorus of “it’s the turn of the South” sounds less like principle and more like political blackmail.

In 2015, when Goodluck Jonathan sought re-election, the APC didn’t feel bound by zoning. They fielded a Northern candidate and won. No outrage. No moral sermon about It's a particular region's turn.

So why should 2027 be different?

Today, zoning is being dressed up as fairness to pressure Nigerians into overlooking harsh socio economic realities under Bola Ahmed Tinubu, rising hardship, worsening insecurity, economic strain and electricity black out. But elections aren’t about geography; they’re about governance.

Let’s be honest: “it’s the turn of the South” is an APC talking point, not a national law. It’s their internal arrangement not a binding rule for other parties like the ADC or for voters.

Just as APC ignored zoning in 2015, others are free to do the same in 2027.

Nigeria isn’t a relay race. No region holds a baton. The only thing that should matter is competence, not convenience.

Lithiumite:
GEJ was on a borrowed mandate and the moral thing he should have done was to step down in 2015 and allowed the north have their turn back till 23 when it returns south.

This singular factor majorly contributed to gej's loss because the north saw him as treacherous....that was the major ground swell of the opposition against him.

So, why don't you people support a motion to enshrine rotational presidency in the constitution then?

You obviously want it.

nairalanda1:
So, why don't you people support a motion to enshrine rotational presidency in the constitution then?

You obviously want it.

In human interrelations there are some phenomenon called conventions which are customary social norms which are unwritten rules that guides mutual co existence....is it stated anywhere in the constitution that the man should be the head if the family or that children should respect elders?

Sheuns:
All these gibberish won’t still change our mind to gang up with the north to boot out incompetent Tinubu.

There’s no southern unity. There never was.

Good! With your gang up, Tinubu still remains the candidate to beat in the next election. The fact is that the political equation of Nigeria still favours the SW more than any region in the South. I hope folks like you don't complain in the future about how the SW in coordination with the Fulanis monopolize power.

DoTheNeedful:
Good! With your gang up, Tinubu still remains the candidate to beat in the next election. The fact is that the political equation of Nigeria still favours the SW more than any region in the South. I hope folks like you don't complain in the future about how the SW in coordination with the Fulanis monopolize power.

The same Fulanis and Hausa you all insult daily? Or the ones you brag how Tinubu is dealing with them? After you destroy all the bridges, we’ll see how you’ll cross back.

Tinubu and his gangs have created a bad precedence for the region. It’s only a matter of time. He won’t be in power forever.

Lithiumite:
In human interrelations there are some phenomenon called conventions which are customary social norms which are unwritten rules that guides mutual co existence....is it stated anywhere in the constitution that the man should be the head if the family or that children should respect elders?

You and that guy can then ask for rotational presidency. Nothing more, nothing less.

nairalanda1:
You and that guy can then ask for rotational presidency. Nothing more, nothing less.

Those who thought it wise to do so were the pdp and the apc followed......if we don't adhere to the principle of rotation,the south will be heavily disadvantaged due to numerical inferiority and more manifest ethnic diversity.......the north will always have an edge,a single household can be upto 30 members as against the south with an average of 4 or 5.

Lithiumite:
Those who thought it wise to do so were the pdp and the apc followed......if we don't adhere to the principle of rotation,the south will be heavily disadvantaged due to numerical inferiority and more manifest ethnic diversity.......the north will always have an edge,a single household can be upto 30 members as against the south with an average of 4 or 5.

North can be beaten. Obasanjo showed that in the 2003 election. ...and even in the 2007 election, GEJ built on that to win in 2011. Even 2015, had GEJ won in Benue , he could have snatched victory narrowly..but the Benue election that year was a referendum on PDP governorship, not national leadership.

North is not always one monolith. Even now, NE and NW can massively disagree, the middle belt is its own patchwork of contradictions...and so forth.

Even now, at one point Northern minorites can start asking why one of them can't be the NOrthern candidate, muslim and christian.

Bobloco:
If 2015 wasn’t reserved for a Southerner when Jonathan sought re-election, why should 2027 be?


The sudden chorus of “it’s the turn of the South” sounds less like principle and more like political blackmail.

In 2015, when Goodluck Jonathan sought re-election, the APC didn’t feel bound by zoning. They fielded a Northern candidate and won. No outrage. No moral sermon about It's a particular region's turn.

So why should 2027 be different?

Today, zoning is being dressed up as fairness to pressure Nigerians into overlooking harsh socio economic realities under Bola Ahmed Tinubu, rising hardship, worsening insecurity, economic strain and electricity black out. But elections aren’t about geography; they’re about governance.

Let’s be honest: “it’s the turn of the South” is an APC talking point, not a national law. It’s their internal arrangement not a binding rule for other parties like the ADC or for voters.

Just as APC ignored zoning in 2015, others are free to do the same in 2027.

Nigeria isn’t a relay race. No region holds a baton. The only thing that should matter is competence, not convenience.

....APC didn't ignore zoning in 2015,it adhered to it. That was the reason why GEJ lost.

nairalanda1:
North can be beaten. Obasanjo showed that in the 2003 election. ...and even in the 2007 election, GEJ built on that to win in 2011. Even 2015, had GEJ won in Benue , he could have snatched victory narrowly..but the Benue election that year was a referendum on PDP governorship, not national leadership.

North is not always one monolith. Even now, NE and NW can massively disagree, the middle belt is its own patchwork of contradictions...and so forth.

Even now, at one point Northern minorites can start asking why one of them can't be the NOrthern candidate, muslim and christian.

Obj and gej were and tinubu were able to do it because of elite concensus that power should go south......if the morthern elites didn't care,atiku could have ran against obj even in 03......wasn't wike"s major angst against atiku mainly because of the disregard by him of the convention that power should move south after Buhari’s 8 years evn the apc has already made it clear power will go north in 31......its standard.

Lithiumite:
Obj and gej were and tinubu were able to do it because of elite concensus that power should go south......if the morthern elites didn't care,atiku could have ran against obj even in 03......wasn't wike"s major angst against atiku mainly because of the disregard by him of the convention that power should move south after Buhari’s 8 years evn the apc has already made it clear power will go north in 31......its standard.

So if no elite consensus, only the Hausa Fulani will continue ruling when they are less than thirty percent of the population?. Remember democracy is a game of numbers o and there is no ethnic group with absolute majority in Nigeria .