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SeizeTheMemes:
If that leader actually worked to develop the country and build industry, yes. Also most "dictatorships" are not run by a single person. China is run by the CPC, Russia is run by the united Russia party, The USSR by the politburo. Likewise for the AES states. No leader can just snap their fingers and disappear people without approval from these institutions. They don't have supreme power.

Democracy isn't the reason why we have bad leadership. The reason is a structural problem that needs to be uprooted and it's unlikely a democracy can produce such without that movement being co opted or destroyed.

If a military "dictator" uproots the rot, then I'm fine with it.

I have never read such amount of nonsense in my life. Dictators don't have supreme powers? Wow 😳

The amount of self deciet you guys go through to lie is astonishing. Why did you not talk about African dictators. Can you list 10 dictators currently in Africa nd ask yourself how many of them fit the nonsense you wrote here.

Cameron
Central African Republic
Equatorial Guinea
Zimbabwe
Idi Amin of Uganda

Etc etc

Just look how dishonest you have to be to defend evil. Wow

njokuuche77:
As long as his people is fine with his leadership, it's ok
Nigeria is a good case study here. We’ve practiced democracy for years, but many citizens still struggle with poor governance, insecurity, and economic hardship. So it’s understandable why some people question whether democracy is truly working for them.

That said, the problem may not be democracy itself, but how it is practiced. Weak institutions, corruption, and lack of accountability often undermine its benefits.

If the people of Burkina Faso genuinely support Ibrahim Traoré’s approach, then that’s their reality. But history across Africa has shown that removing democratic structures entirely can create even bigger risks, especially around power abuse and lack of accountability.

What a good view of the problem affecting democracy. As long as he improves their lot, all is good

Realguyman1:
But in the case of Nigeria, the military regime was far more better than the civilian rule that we have now.

Either someone is has been lying to you or you are the one lying to yourself.

At least the military regime was able to curb insecurity to it barest minimum

There were no terrorists or bandits problems in Nigeria at the time. If the military should start ruling Nigeria today, they can't make terrorism and banditary disappear like a magic. And they're corrupt too.

and never imposed a sudden hardship on the people in the name of propaganda reforms or change that is not happening.

During Abacha regime, people were sleeping at the filling stations for weeks because, no petrol. People were using sawdust to cook because they couldn't afford kerosene. People were using cassava peels to make cassava flour.
How many parents could afford to send their kids to private schools like nowadays?

Akalia:
Democracy is abused in Africa. The system of governments that will thrive in Africa is monarchical and autocratic system.

This is the same system (autocracy) that thrives everywhere.

'DEMOCRACY' is a facade.

njokuuche77:
As long as his people is fine with his leadership, it's ok

erniok:
What a good view of the problem affecting democracy. As long as he improves their lot, all is good

How could his people be fine by sit tight syndrome, another despot in the making? There strangulation of free speech going on there at the moment and that's where it is usually starts, suppressing any opposing view.

maasoap:
Either someone is has been lying to you or you are the one lying to yourself.


There were no terrorists or bandits problems in Nigeria at the time. If the military should start ruling Nigeria today, they can't make terrorism and banditary disappear like a magic. And they're corrupt too.


During Abacha regime, people were sleeping at the filling stations for weeks because, no petrol. People were using sawdust to cook because they couldn't afford kerosene. People were using cassava peels to make cassava flour.
How many parents could afford to send their kids to private schools like nowadays?

don't mind them. Instead of voting for good leaders, they decided that dictators are better. Africa has no hope. Honestly. I can't believe people are praising dictators . Africa has zero hope. The problem is the mind of the black man. Something is seriously wrong with the black race

Ezmans:
Democracy is the worst system of government so expensive & corrupt that is the reason china & UK don't practice it, if this nation go back to British system of government we I'll excell

What are you saying? Are the British practicing an autocratic system of government??

What Africa needs is committed leaders and not democracy.

maasoap:
Either someone is has been lying to you or you are the one lying to yourself.


There were no terrorists or bandits problems in Nigeria at the time. If the military should start ruling Nigeria today, they can't make terrorism and banditary disappear like a magic. And they're corrupt too.


During Abacha regime, people were sleeping at the filling stations for weeks because, no petrol. People were using sawdust to cook because they couldn't afford kerosene. People were using cassava peels to make cassava flour.
How many parents could afford to send their kids to private schools like nowadays?

People were even scared of talking anyhow in public against the Abacha regime for fear of getting picked up by the SSS.

Today you can stand outside and abuse Tinubu from morning till night, no wahala.

Kushites:
This is the same system (autocracy) that thrives everywhere.

'DEMOCRACY' is a facade.

so dictatorahip is better abi? Wow. This thread has really shown me how the brain of the black race works

HardMirror:
don't mind them. Instead of voting for good leaders, they decided that dictators are better. Africa has no hope. Honestly. I can't believe people are praising dictators . Africa has zero hope. The problem is the mind of the black man. Something is seriously wrong with the black race

YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS NAIVE.

WORSHIPPING THE WEST.

Does China practice western democracy?

WHY CAN'T YOU DEVISE YOUR OWN SYSTEM?

Rubbish.

okoloto:
What Africa needs is committed leaders and not democracy.

list the good dictators we have had in Africa. Then list all the dictators we have had. How many were good?

HardMirror:
so dictatorahip is better abi? Wow. This thread has really shown me how the brain of the black race works

SAID WHILE EVERYTHING IN YOUR HOUSE AND ON YOUR BODY IS MADE IN CHINA.

Kushites:
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS NAIVE.

WORSHIPPING THE WEST.

Does China practice western democracy?

WHY CAN'T YOU DEVISE YOUR OWN SYSTEM?

Rubbish.

why are you talking of China. Are you not in Africa? Are you ashamed of your African dictators? List all the African dictators we ever had and tell me how many were good. I am sure you will say kim Jong Un of North Korea is caring for his people too. Most of you are just anti west because you think it makes you special. Not because you are making any sense.

Kushites:
SAID WHILE EVERYTHING IN YOUR HOUSE AND ON YOUR BODY IS MADE IN CHINA.

so how many things has Cameroon made or central African Republic. At least they have dictators too.
Since to you having dictators equal to progress.

How many products of North Korea are you using?

HardMirror:
list the good dictators we have had in Africa. Then list all the dictators we have had. How many were good?

Good dictators?

Murtala Ramat Muhammed?

Thomas Sankara?

Ibrahim Traore?

Jerry Rawlings?

Muhammad Ghadaffi?

Kushites:
Good dictators?

Murtala Ramat Muhammed, Thomas Sankara, Jerry Rawlings, Muhammad Ghadaffi....?

list all the dictators and tell me the products from their countries that benefit humanity.

Kushites:
Good dictators?

Murtala Ramat Muhammed?

Thomas Sankara?

Ibrahim Traore?

Jerry Rawlings?

Muhammad Ghadaffi?

minus Sankara. The rest are all useless and evil leaders. And corrupt too.

fredoooooo:
Democracy is not for Africans.. its a way the west use to control African Ressources

Military rule is worse. They can't perform better. And on top of it, they will take away your freedom and rights

maasoap:
How could his people be fine by sit tight syndrome, another despot in the making? There strangulation of free speech going on there at the moment and that's where it is usually starts, suppressing any opposing view.

Being a despot is not a problem as long as the economic indices improves drastically.

I'd rather live in a country that is ruled by a despot with improved living conditions than live in a democracy setting with extreme poverty conditions.

HardMirror:
I have never read such amount of nonsense in my life. Dictators don't have supreme powers? Wow 😳

The amount of self deciet you guys go through to lie is astonishing. Why did you not talk about African dictators. Can you list 10 dictators currently in Africa nd ask yourself how many of them fit the nonsense you wrote here.

Cameron
Central African Republic
Equatorial Guinea
Zimbabwe
Idi Amin of Uganda

Etc etc

Just look how dishonest you have to be to defend evil. Wow

Dictators don't have supreme power. They have a base of power that also has rules. An individual person can't just do something without the support from the majority of that base, Do you think Idi Amin can wake up one day and ask for a random person to be killed and his party will just say ok boss without asking questions? If the majority of his power base doesn't support it they will stop him and if he does it too much they will get rid of him.

BlackViper:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly0zp1xgz3o

Power don sweet for him mouth! Typical!! They can live with it!! Sebi they were hailing him as their messiah.

HardMirror:
list all the dictators and tell me the products from their countries that benefit humanity.

Products?

Are you a child?

The primary task that usually confronts leaders from Developing Countries is emancipation of their people from inherited imperialist policies that confine them to poverty and dependence.

THAT'S THE FIRST STEP FOR ANY COUNTRY - ECONOMIC INDEPENDENCE.

Without that, you're going nowhere.

Trouble is, the African 'dictators' who try to do this usually get assassinated/deposed/sabotaged by western powers desperate to keep Africa dependent and subservient to them.

But the tide is turning against the west....

This latest Trump madness in Iran, with the growing humiliation of the US as a paper tiger, is another sign of western decline, as 12 of the 20 fastest growing economies on Earth are in fast-rising Africa.

We can disagree with him.. Yes..

But the truth is, based on historical facts... no western world was built by true democracy...

Let me rephrase it... Non of these western countries that are touting democracy rose to prominence by true democracy...

Where do we start?

U.S.A?
Slave trade, disenfranchise minorities... even before that, didn't they take out the native Americans by introducing diseases to kill them off and take their lands by force??

Etc..etc..

Belgium?

Own one of the biggest diamond business in the world but theres no diamond mine in Belgium. Drained 🇨🇩 Congo's resources to build up Belgium, genocide in Congo and Rwanda?

France?
.what happened to sankara?? ( I dont know, just asking a question).. look at all the francophone countries in Africa and how France have leeched on them for years..

And the story goes on and on...

China is surviving because of communism.. have China relied on true democracy, I dont think they would be this great as they are today...

HardMirror:
minus Sankara. The rest are all useless and evil leaders. And corrupt too.

ACCORDING TO WHO?

YOU?

WHO AND WHAT ARE YOU?

JUST SHUT UP, SMALL KID.

erniok:
Being a despot is not a problem as long as the economic indices improves drastically.

I'd rather live in a country that is ruled by a despot with improved living conditions than live in a democracy setting with extreme poverty conditions.

You don't seem to get it. You can't be doing something right and still need to suppress your people which includes jailing them without fair trial just because they criticise you. I don't know how we should explain this thing to you guys

maasoap:
You don't seem to get it. You can't be doing something right and still need to suppress your people which includes jailing them without fair trial just because they criticise you. I don't know how we should explain this thing to you guys

YOU ARE WRONG.

Many indigenes who pose as innocent critics are backed by western powers and NGOs to sabotage progressive governments.

It's actually why the west pushes so hard for Western style "democracy" in Africa.

It makes African countries more vulnerable to their manipulation.

CHINA DOES NOT TOLERATE WESTERN DEMOCRACY NONSENSE.

They are a single party state, and it works for them.

Their jails are filled with political prisoners who fought to have western democracy in China.

maasoap:
Either someone is has been lying to you or you are the one lying to yourself.


There were no terrorists or bandits problems in Nigeria at the time. If the military should start ruling Nigeria today, they can't make terrorism and banditary disappear like a magic. And they're corrupt too.


During Abacha regime, people were sleeping at the filling stations for weeks because, no petrol. People were using sawdust to cook because they couldn't afford kerosene. People were using cassava peels to make cassava flour.
How many parents could afford to send their kids to private schools like nowadays?

Firstly, explain to me how someone has been lying to me or me lying to myself?

Secondly, the people who started terrorism and banditry in Nigeria wouldn't have dear it if the military guys of those days were still in power. The people who started terrorism and banditry in Nigeria saw the unseriousness in the so called civilian government and took the advantage to create their selfish and villainy ideology in which they themselves know they wouldn't have dear with the military leaders of those days.

Yes, even if the military guys of this days takes over power, nothing will still change because the politicians has succeeded in compromising them and the people. Most of the top military commanders are as worst/even worse than the politicians and I don't see them doing anything different from the so called politicians.

Thirdly, the Abacha regime has so many difficulties compared to other military regimes because he wasn't dependent to foreign aid or borrowing recklessly like the civilian government we have today, and there were no much private schools those days like it is littered everywhere in Nigeria today, the few private schools then were big schools that not everyone could afford even till date. Beside, if the government schools were ok there wouldn't be any need for a lot of people (especially the commoners) going through difficulties in other to put their children in private schools.

maasoap:
You don't seem to get it. You can't be doing something right and still need to suppress your people which includes jailing them without fair trial just because they criticise you. I don't know how we should explain this thing to you guys

It's rare to see despots improv8ng the economy of their people. Africa needs either to break up into smaller national tribes for lack of better term or an iron hand pragmatic leader. Democracy just won't work well.

Nigeria is a classical example of where democracy is not working. As far Burkina Faso citizens are enjoying during military rule, let them forget about democracy.

The UK get's a new PM every 1.5 years these days. The U.S. is saddled with a mad man.
Russian and Chinese ppl are not complaining at all. No comment on Cameroon or Uganda.

erniok:
Being a despot is not a problem as long as the economic indices improves drastically.

I'd rather live in a country that is ruled by a despot with improved living conditions than live in a democracy setting with extreme poverty conditions.

And if things don't get better, what are you going to do about it? I hope you know you'll most probably go missing if you become a problem to any military leader?