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Namaster:
IMPRESSIVE!

But it's IMPORTANT to understand that defending a position that was STRATEGICALLY selected is DIFFERENT from invading a position that was STRATEGICALLY selected.

In a FULL-SCALE ground invasion, the positions of the Iranian Military and the US would be REVERSED.

Baxilexi:
Jets flew low for over a day. The IRGC could not mobilize troops to the region fast enough.

Firing missiles is easy but ground operation is another. American infantry have real time satellite imagery of the battle field. Basically they can fight without physically visualizing the enemy, pair that with thermal scopes etc.

The IRGC should remember this is a pride issue. If Ayatollah was indeed a servant of God and not a murderer they should be rest assured of his eternity.
Don’t build your own nuclear weapon, you can sign security treaties with Russia, China and North Korea. You’ve said in the past that you had no plans of building one so it should be easy to agree on.

Do not build long range missile, your neighbors don’t have this, they only have interceptors. Again you can choose to ask the US never to attack Iran again in the presence of Russia and China.

The list is doable… make a deal!

Namaster:
Your post sounds REASONABLE.
This is a DEPARTURE from what US/ILLsraeli fanboys sound like.

First of all, the rescue operation was a BIG WIN for the US/ILLsrael.
But they still LOST 2 C-130s plus MULTIPLE BlackHawks were reportedly DAMAGED.

Secondly, the INABILITY of the Iranian Military Forces to mobilise on the enemy's position is a BIG BLOW to them.
But it's UNDERSTANDABLE given that there were OVER 50 fighter jets laying down SUPPRESSIVE fire.

This would be DIFFERENT if it were the enemies trying to ROOT out Iranian Forces from a FORTIFIED position.

Iran has a TERRAIN that is ideal for DEFENSIVE Military Fortifications.
It's ONE of the reasons the ARMIES of the enemies have been CAUTIOUS about launching a ground attack on the Iranian Military Position GUARDING the Strait of Hormuz.

Also, real-time satellite image of the BATTLEFIELD is NOT a revolutionary Military Technology.
Iran also have ACCESS to the same thing, thanks to Russia.

Baxilexi:
Jets flew low for over a day. The IRGC could not mobilize troops to the region fast enough.

Firing missiles is easy but ground operation is another. American infantry have real time satellite imagery of the battle field. Basically they can fight without physically visualizing the enemy, pair that with thermal scopes etc.

The IRGC should remember this is a pride issue. If Ayatollah was indeed a servant of God and not a murderer they should be rest assured of his eternity.
Don’t build your own nuclear weapon, you can sign security treaties with Russia, China and North Korea. You’ve said in the past that you had no plans of building one so it should be easy to agree on.

Do not build long range missile, your neighbors don’t have this, they only have interceptors. Again you can choose to ask the US never to attack Iran again in the presence of Russia and China.

The list is doable… make a deal!

proxillin:
Having satellite access without machines to mobilise is like playing video games. You are not actually hurting anyone. You are just fiddling with 3d objects.

Baxilexi:
The IRGC should remember this is a pride issue. If Ayatollah was indeed a servant of God and not a murderer they should be rest assured of his eternity.
Don’t build your own nuclear weapon, you can sign security treaties with Russia, China and North Korea. You’ve said in the past that you had no plans of building one so it should be easy to agree on.

Do not build long range missile, your neighbors don’t have this, they only have interceptors. Again you can choose to ask the US never to attack Iran again in the presence of Russia and China.

The list is doable… make a deal!

Namaster:
Baxilexi, another thing about Iran's neighbours.

You likely said that because of Iran Missile attacks on places like Saudi, UAE, Bahrain, Oman, etc.

Most of those attacks, especially in the early days of the war, were on US Military Bases in those countries.

The Bases would have been used to LAUNCH attacks on Iran.
And to INTERCEPT attempts by Iran to retaliate against the people ATTACKING them.

COMPROMISED Western Media just made it sound like Iran is CALLOUSLY and WRECKLESSLY attacking civilians in those countries.

Check the Civilian Casualty Counts in those countries to see that the REALITY is different.

Despite the FACT that Iran has been PUMMELING Prince Sultan Airbase in Saudi Arabia for some time now, ONLY 2 civilians have died in the World of Saudi Arabia because of the war.

And those Civilians died from DEBRIS that resulted from the INTERCEPTION of Iranian Missiles/Drones meant for US Military targets.

Same is APPLICABLE in Kuwait.
They TOOK out 6 US soldiers and warplanes and ONLY one civilian have died.
Just ONE.
And it's also because of INTERCEPTION.

The US/Western Media is trying to make Iran into the BAD GUYS but the reality is DIFFERENT.

Adexvivacity:
Only a coward will agree to make such deal. Your mate is telling you to sign that you will never make it up to his stage of achievement and you said you would sign it... COWARD!!

proxillin:
Iran are so good people that they attack water plant, refinery, food storage of UaE, saudi e.t.c.

very good guys

Namaster:
Baxilexi, another thing about Iran's neighbours.

You likely said that because of Iran Missile attacks on places like Saudi, UAE, Bahrain, Oman, etc.

Most of those attacks, especially in the early days of the war, were on US Military Bases in those countries.

The Bases would have been used to LAUNCH attacks on Iran.
And to INTERCEPT attempts by Iran to retaliate against the people ATTACKING them.

COMPROMISED Western Media just made it sound like Iran is CALLOUSLY and WRECKLESSLY attacking civilians in those countries.

Check the Civilian Casualty Counts in those countries to see that the REALITY is different.

Despite the FACT that Iran has been PUMMELING Prince Sultan Airbase in Saudi Arabia for some time now, ONLY 2 civilians have died in the World of Saudi Arabia because of the war.

And those Civilians died from DEBRIS that resulted from the INTERCEPTION of Iranian Missiles/Drones meant for US Military targets.

Same is APPLICABLE in Kuwait.
They TOOK out 6 US soldiers and warplanes and ONLY one civilian have died.
Just ONE.
And it's also because of INTERCEPTION.

The US/Western Media is trying to make Iran into the BAD GUYS but the reality is DIFFERENT.

proxillin:
Having satellite access without machines to mobilise is like playing video games. You are not actually hurting anyone. You are just fiddling with 3d objects.

Baxilexi:
The first step is to determine what type of base it was. Some bases are strictly for logistics or training. No runway for fighter jets.

If you read about the planes bombed at the Saudi Airport, the reason the planes were there in the first place was because no other airport in the region could house those planes.

So the IRGC just wanted to kill.

If the bases were capable of being used for attacks then they wouldn’t have sent in an aircraft carrier.

The US has a base in Nigeria but it’s just for reconnaissance. It cannot support heavy military operations.

Namaster:
On the DEAL part, the list is RIDICULOUS!
It's NOT doable.

I ENCOURAGE you take a good faith and UNBIASED look at the history of the DEALS.

Here's a summary of what you'll find:

Obama made a deal with Iran.
They AGREED to NEVER develop Nuclear Weapons.
They gave UNRESTRICTED access to officials from IAEA.
The officials would INSPECT their Nuclear Enrichment programmes and ENSURE it conforms to the term of the deal.
(Israel does NOT allow the IAEA to do that in their country).

The PDFile tore up the deal.
Imposed STIFFER sanctions to the MOST SANCTIONED country in the world.
ASSASSINATED their General Solemani.
ASSASSINATED a Professor of Nuclear Physics.
BOMBED their Nuclear sites.

And then EXPECTED Iran to confirm to the terms of a NON-EXISTENT deal.

The issue of MISSILES were NEVER an issue until they ATTACKED Iran in June 2025.
When ILLsrael ASSASSINATED more of their Leaders.

Iran hit back with FEROCIOUS Missiles that SHOCKED the US and ILLsrael.
That is when they started to INSIST that Iran MUST not have Missiles.

As for your claims that Iran does NOT deserve Long-range missiles because their neighbours do NOT have them, that is NOT true.

First of all, ILLsrael has it.
Secondly, Iran has NEVER attacked any of its neighbours.
In fact, there is ZERO indication of enmity between Iran and their neighbours apart from MAYBE Saudi Arabia.

It's the US Military Bases in those countries which is a DIRECT threat to Iranian National Security that Iran have problems with.

Plus, ILLsrael has access to F-35 Fighter Jets.
The F-35 is the CULMINATION of the Engineering and Financial Prowess of MULTIPLE first-world countries including US, UK, Germany, Canada, Australia, Norway, Denmark, etc.

99% of Air DEFENCE SYSTEMS in the world are POWERLESS against F-35s.

ILLsrael has NEARLY 50 of those.
Meanwhile, Iran has Aircrafts that FOUGHT in World War 2.


That is why ILLsrael has been ASSASSINATING their Leaders with IMPUNITY.

Iran's ONLY recourse is to HIT BACK with LOCALLY-DEVELOPED Long-range Missiles.
These are the SAME missiles that ILLsrael and US want Iran to give up.

Understand:

Iran has NEVER used their Missiles to ATTACK ILLsrael or any of their neighbours.
It's ONLY been used in RETALIATION for attacks on Iran (aka Self Defense).

Many people say ILLsrael has a RIGHT to defend itself.
Well, Iran is ENTITLED to the same rights.

How does giving them up sound like a DOABLE deal to you?

The goal of the DEAL is to render ALL countries in the Middle East HELPLESS in the face of Israeli ONSLAUGHT.

And we all KNOW ILLsrael has NO self control when they are dealing with POWERLESS people.
See Gaza and Southern Lebanon for reference.

Baxilexi:
The first step is to determine what type of base it was. Some bases are strictly for logistics or training. No runway for fighter jets.

If you read about the planes bombed at the Saudi Airport, the reason the planes were there in the first place was because no other airport in the region could house those planes.

So the IRGC just wanted to kill.

If the bases were capable of being used for attacks then they wouldn’t have sent in an aircraft carrier.

The US has a base in Nigeria but it’s just for reconnaissance. It cannot support heavy military operations.

Watcharena:
that is in response to attack on their own facilities

proxillin:
Now that the second US pilot has been rescued, and the US destroyed their damaged helicopters in order not to let them fall into the hands of the IRGC,

the major takeaway the world is noticing is not just the daring operation or the heroism of the rescue team and the pilots.

It is the operation itself. The US Army set up a rescue staging point inside Iran for about 8 hours, conducting contact and scanning operations for the pilot until he was able to navigate to the extraction point.

This represents a significant military lapse on the side of the IRGC. The major narrative over the past two weeks has been that the US could not put boots on the ground. However, this operation has demonstrated otherwise. The IRGC was unable to effectively approach the US staging site for several hours.

When it got to around 6 hours, the IRGC began mobilising police and civilian volunteers to move toward the scene, but they still could not gain access before the US forces had exited.

Credit to the IRGC, they were able to deploy FPV drones remotely, which struck the helicopters. However, this did not jeopardise the success of the mission.

This serves as a litmus test for a potential US ground invasion. It is likely that US military strategies will now be further refined based on insights from this operation.

Baxilexi:
About Isreal having long range weapons, an evaluation of the Gaza situation was done. Isreal used 200000 bombs but allegedly killed 67,000 enemies and collaterals combined. So if they wanted genocide the count should’ve been 200,000 over assuming they decided to kill one person with 500-1000kg bombs.

Namaster:
NEVER engage a fanboy.
It's POINTLESS.

Iran is fighting 2 countries who claim to be DOMINATING them Militarily.

One of those countries is a SUPERPOWER and the other has the MOST POWERFUL and MODERN Airforce in the Middle East.

They CLAIM to have DESTROYED ALL Iranian Nuclear Materials.
90% of their MISSILES.
85% of their DRONES.
70% of their LAUNCHERS.

In short, they claim that ALL their Military OBJECTIVES have been met (including Regime change).

Yet they have resorted to attacking Hospitals, Bridges, Universities, Research Labs, Museums, etc.

They have also started doing something UNBELIEVABLY EVIL called Double Tapping.

That's when they attack a Civilian infrastructure like the bridge, then wait for 30 minutes to 1 hour for First Responders (Firefighters and Medics) to arrive at the scene for rescue operations then ATTACK it a SECOND TIME.

It's EVIL and a WAR CRIME.

Yet US/ILLsrael has done it MULTIPLE times.

Namaster:
This is where you are WRONG.

First thing you have to understand is that WARFARE has ALWAYS been about Logistics and SUPPORT like the reconnaissance you mentioned.

In fact, those BASES were set up SPECIFICALLY for their abilities to provide LOGISTICS and SUPPORT to the US Military.

Military Bases ALWAYS serve Military Purpose.

The REASON the US Military is so DEADLY is because of their Military Bases that they have ACROSS the world ready to provide LOGISTICAL and INTELLIGENCE support at a moment's notice.

The US has over 800 Military Bases.
Russia has about 21.
China has maybe 1.


Those US BASES will supply intelligence and repairs and other equipment to an INVADING Force.

They are NOT just for show.
War is NOT just about KABOOM-KABOOM.
It's about the Logistical and Supply Chains you have in place to keep it going.

For instance, the planes that were DESTROYED in the Saudi Airbase were TANKERS (Logistical support) and Surveillance planes (Intelligence Support).

Both are CRUCIAL to combat operations.

Another CLAIM that is NOT true is that "IRGC just wanted to KILL".

Before the war began, Iran stated CLEARLY and PLAINLY that ALL US Military Bases in the region would become VIABLE targets.

Because of that, the US EVACUATED most of their bases.
The people who died were SKELETON crew left as a kind of standing force.

In the second day of the war, Iran attacked about 15 US Bases and DESTROYED multiple THAADS.

And only the Kuwaiti base reported casualties.

The GOAL was to destroy the ability of the US to use those bases for LOGISTICAL supports.
Plus, the AIR DEFENCE systems in those bases were going to be deployed to INTERCEPT attacks meant for ILLsrael.

That was the purpose of those ATTACKS.
NOT wanting attempts to MURDER.

As for the need for AIRCRAFT CARRIERS despite the presence of those bases, here's a simple explanation:

The US Military is all about hitting the enemy with OVERWHELMING FORCE.

One Aircraft carrier can convey more than 70 aircrafts.
The BIGGEST ONE like USS Gerald Ford can convey up to 90.

That's more planes on ONE carrier than some COUNTRIES have in their ENTIRE Military.



And for SERIOUS combat operations like the one in Iran, majority of those planes would be F-35s.

Parking those PERMANENTLY inside a foreign Military base is UNTENABLE.

Spies could STEAL those techs.
They could be hit in a SUCKER-PUNCH attack.
Plus, the host country would be very UNEASY.

In contrast, every aircraft carrier is a FLOATING FORTRESS with its own top-of-the-line AIR DEFENCE SYSTEMS.

These are the things to CONSIDER.

Namaster:
After reading this, this will be my FINAL response to you.

Hamas TERRORIST attack on October 7 killed about 1,200 ILLsraelis including soldiers and it was UNIVERSALLY condemned as a HEINOUS TERRORIST ATTACK.

But here you are EXCUSING the deaths of NEARLY 70,000 people.

TERRORISM is TERRORISM regardless of the PERPETRATORS.

It's INSANE that many people, including you, seem to think ONLY Muslims are terrorists.

On the UN article you posted, it was published in June 2025.

Years AFTER the PDFile destroyed the Obama deal in 2018.

The CREDIBILITY issue reported in those article were tracked to nuclear activities in the early 2000s. That is, years BEFORE the Obama deal.

These are COMMONSENSE issues.

Plus, EVERYBODY knows that ILLsrael has NUKES.
But EVERYBODY pretends not to.

Namaster:
This is where you are WRONG.

First thing you have to understand is that WARFARE has ALWAYS been about Logistics and SUPPORT like the reconnaissance you mentioned.

In fact, those BASES were set up SPECIFICALLY for their abilities to provide LOGISTICS and SUPPORT to the US Military.

Military Bases ALWAYS serve Military Purpose.

The REASON the US Military is so DEADLY is because of their Military Bases that they have ACROSS the world ready to provide LOGISTICAL and INTELLIGENCE support at a moment's notice.

The US has over 800 Military Bases.
Russia has about 21.
China has maybe 1.


Those US BASES will supply intelligence and repairs and other equipment to an INVADING Force.

They are NOT just for show.
War is NOT just about KABOOM-KABOOM.
It's about the Logistical and Supply Chains you have in place to keep it going.

For instance, the planes that were DESTROYED in the Saudi Airbase were TANKERS (Logistical support) and Surveillance planes (Intelligence Support).

Both are CRUCIAL to combat operations.

Another CLAIM that is NOT true is that "IRGC just wanted to KILL".

Before the war began, Iran stated CLEARLY and PLAINLY that ALL US Military Bases in the region would become VIABLE targets.

Because of that, the US EVACUATED most of their bases.
The people who died were SKELETON crew left as a kind of standing force.

In the second day of the war, Iran attacked about 15 US Bases and DESTROYED multiple THAADS.

And only the Kuwaiti base reported casualties.

The GOAL was to destroy the ability of the US to use those bases for LOGISTICAL supports.
Plus, the AIR DEFENCE systems in those bases were going to be deployed to INTERCEPT attacks meant for ILLsrael.

That was the purpose of those ATTACKS.
NOT wanting attempts to MURDER.

As for the need for AIRCRAFT CARRIERS despite the presence of those bases, here's a simple explanation:

The US Military is all about hitting the enemy with OVERWHELMING FORCE.

One Aircraft carrier can convey more than 70 aircrafts.
The BIGGEST ONE like USS Gerald Ford can convey up to 90.

That's more planes on ONE carrier than some COUNTRIES have in their ENTIRE Military.



And for SERIOUS combat operations like the one in Iran, majority of those planes would be F-35s.

Parking those PERMANENTLY inside a foreign Military base is UNTENABLE.

Spies could STEAL those techs.
They could be hit in a SUCKER-PUNCH attack.
Plus, the host country would be very UNEASY.

In contrast, every aircraft carrier is a FLOATING FORTRESS with its own top-of-the-line AIR DEFENCE SYSTEMS.

These are the things to CONSIDER.

Adexvivacity:
Only a coward will agree to make such deal. Your mate is telling you to sign that you will never make it up to his stage of achievement and you said you would sign it... COWARD!!

Namaster:
This is where you are WRONG.

First thing you have to understand is that WARFARE has ALWAYS been about Logistics and SUPPORT like the reconnaissance you mentioned.

In fact, those BASES were set up SPECIFICALLY for their abilities to provide LOGISTICS and SUPPORT to the US Military.

Military Bases ALWAYS serve Military Purpose.

The REASON the US Military is so DEADLY is because of their Military Bases that they have ACROSS the world ready to provide LOGISTICAL and INTELLIGENCE support at a moment's notice.

The US has over 800 Military Bases.
Russia has about 21.
China has maybe 1.


Those US BASES will supply intelligence and repairs and other equipment to an INVADING Force.

They are NOT just for show.
War is NOT just about KABOOM-KABOOM.
It's about the Logistical and Supply Chains you have in place to keep it going.

For instance, the planes that were DESTROYED in the Saudi Airbase were TANKERS (Logistical support) and Surveillance planes (Intelligence Support).

Both are CRUCIAL to combat operations.

Another CLAIM that is NOT true is that "IRGC just wanted to KILL".

Before the war began, Iran stated CLEARLY and PLAINLY that ALL US Military Bases in the region would become VIABLE targets.

Because of that, the US EVACUATED most of their bases.
The people who died were SKELETON crew left as a kind of standing force.

In the second day of the war, Iran attacked about 15 US Bases and DESTROYED multiple THAADS.

And only the Kuwaiti base reported casualties.

The GOAL was to destroy the ability of the US to use those bases for LOGISTICAL supports.
Plus, the AIR DEFENCE systems in those bases were going to be deployed to INTERCEPT attacks meant for ILLsrael.

That was the purpose of those ATTACKS.
NOT wanting attempts to MURDER.

As for the need for AIRCRAFT CARRIERS despite the presence of those bases, here's a simple explanation:

The US Military is all about hitting the enemy with OVERWHELMING FORCE.

One Aircraft carrier can convey more than 70 aircrafts.
The BIGGEST ONE like USS Gerald Ford can convey up to 90.

That's more planes on ONE carrier than some COUNTRIES have in their ENTIRE Military.



And for SERIOUS combat operations like the one in Iran, majority of those planes would be F-35s.

Parking those PERMANENTLY inside a foreign Military base is UNTENABLE.

Spies could STEAL those techs.
They could be hit in a SUCKER-PUNCH attack.
Plus, the host country would be very UNEASY.

In contrast, every aircraft carrier is a FLOATING FORTRESS with its own top-of-the-line AIR DEFENCE SYSTEMS.

These are the things to CONSIDER.