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WhiteAngels001:
More like a charging station where people come to charge for a fee. From morning till 9pm

Dabss:
just to answer questions dey tire you but you want other people to keep using their money to buy batteries for capacity testing every 3 months. Lmao

cyif2003:
Where person wey dey run charge phone biz wan hang six panels?. Most likely a small kiosk or shop... Abeg so far it's morning till 8/9 . As for me 2kva inverter with 4kwh battery will do.

Penuelseun:
Get a 4.2kw inverter with at least 5kwh battery and around 6pcs 600w solar panels if you really mean business as you will be pulling upward of 1kw on a good day, also to cover future expansion, don't let someone that has no practical experience and only depends on chatgpt to mislead you. There are no shortcuts in solar, you get what you pay for

fuckboys:
580k will get you a 4.4kwh from Mr Reed.

And additional 150k will get you 8kwh from haisic or CDO.

Who with a functioning brain will buy a 3kwh battery for 650k?

WhiteAngels001:
Good evening my bosses
Please I need quotation of a complete solar system with 2kwh lithium battery, a growatt inverter and a jinko panel.
I heard it's a better setup than the trendy solar generators. I'd appreciate your view as well

bassdow:
Did you ask OP about His / Her budget ?

Did you ask to know if the roof is enough to contain 2pcs out of that 6pcs of 600w solar panels you suggested ?

Did you even ask to know if the load is more of DayTime or not ?

Security nko abi make person spend close over a million come install am in a shop/place not secure enough to house a 500,000 naira property.

About chatGPT, that's una headAche. Sometimes if english smooth too much (no be say the english sef smooth, only say e too smooth for una local ear), una go think say person copy grammar. na for this same thread people called me Yoruba simply because I mentioned something 150% done by most Igbos abi if my person thief, make I change the name of the act.

Unfaized:
I have someone running this business and he surpasses 120 phones and power banks in a day. So if your location is a busy one then be prepared.

The Cola Solar can't serve you if that's the case. You need a standard inverter at least 3.5kw or there about. Get a 4kwh battery, with enough solar panels you are good to go.

Penuelseun:
Get a 4.2kw inverter with at least 5kwh battery and around 6pcs 600w solar panels if you really mean business as you will be pulling upward of 1kw on a good day, also to cover future expansion, don't let someone that has no practical experience and only depends on chatgpt to mislead you. There are no shortcuts in solar, you get what you pay for

ksmart027:
I will suggest you get deriy 3.6kw battery with 2kva inverter and four 530w panels.

bassdow:
you didn't tell us your budget ?

Also what space you got available and if said place is secure enough OR in a main Market (which is often very secure) OR if the place is part of a main building or at least very close to it OR an ordinary Container Shop.

You also need tell us if you plan running the freezer 24-hours or only during the day.

To power a 200l freezer, and make space for charging 100 phones + 50 powerBanks; even though they all wouldn't be plugged in at same time AND to also give room for easy upGrades, and reduce chances of preMature upGrades, would suggest the below as minimum

Between 3.5kva to 5kva 24v (hybrid) inverter.

if buying a nonHybrid inverter, would need an MPPT Charge Controller: go for at least 60A or 80A

4pcs or 6pcs of 400w or 450w or 500w (depending on hybrid inverter / charge controller's limits) halfCut mono solar panels

At least a 24v 200AH battery BUT would really depend on if you plan running the freezer overNight or only during the day.

Your budget decides if you buy everything brand new or mix them.

As per powerStation, or whatEver fancy name they call it, leave am alone. Most things out there are meant to satisfy the SELLers, not the CUSTOMERs

WhiteAngels001:
Okay no problem.
Could you attach an estimated price for this set up?

tziz:
Please what's the ideal cable size to use from battery to Inverter for my 12v 1.5Kva Haisic Inverter?

WhiteAngels001:
So my budget is actually 1.5m
I only intend to run the freezer from morning till say 9pm, likewise the phone charging business.
And yes, the place is in a busy place, but very safe because it's a shop attached to a house

Which is better to buy between hybrid and non hybrid inverters, I really need something that will stand the test of time without worries

mctfopt:
35mm²

bassdow:
Did you ask OP about His / Her budget ?

Did you ask to know if the roof is enough to contain 2pcs out of that 6pcs of 600w solar panels you suggested ?

Did you even ask to know if the load is more of DayTime or not ?

Security nko abi make person spend close over a million come install am in a shop/place not secure enough to house a 500,000 naira property.

About chatGPT, that's una headAche. Sometimes if english smooth too much (no be say the english sef smooth, only say e too smooth for una local ear), una go think say person copy grammar. na for this same thread people called me Yoruba simply because I mentioned something 150% done by most Igbos abi if my person thief, make I change the name of the act.

fuckboys:
well, all of you suggesting to this guy to install a full solar setup worth millions in a store for charging of phones? Hmmm

To me, I think he should install a solar system that’s a little bit mobile than a full solar setup, make person no come cry for here say him shop has been burgled.


My suggestion, 3.4kwh colar solar generator and install 2 620w panels on your roof and manage your load. There’s also the plus version of the cola 3.4kwh with 2000w output.

If you close for the day, carry you solar generator dey go your house, you fit risk leaving panels for them.

Unfaized:
Take Penuelseun suggestion above, as his advice is more practical if you want total dependence on solar. But in that case 1.5m won't be enough.

Go for a hybrid inverter 24v 4.2kva 330k

Get best Lithium battery deal from Mrreed 580k for 4.4kwh 24v

Get about 6 pieces of 550 or 600watts at least 700k (Panels are really big and heavy o so make sure you got roof space for it)

Budget better funds for installation and materials.

My reason for suggestion?

On load;
Assuming the average power of each charging brick is 25w, at full usage you're pulling over 2.5kw upwards that's why a 4.2kva inverter is suggested (Some chargers pull more)

Panels;
Your panels at full yield should be giving about 3.6kw, this means you will be able to fully utilize sunlight for daytime charging while getting your 4.4kwh battery filled by night time.

Battery size;
Assuming less loads in the evening, a 4.4kwh battery should carry you till 9pm with some juice left to begin the next day. Anything less won't give you optimal service and you may still need to use alternative source of electricity.

Note: A deep freezer's load isn't really significant as consumption is very low generally.

I want to appeal to all of us to try and be respectful to others here. You may not like someone's opinion, but definitely there's something to learn from it. To people that have questions, most of these questions have been answered in a few posts back, don't be lazy, try read up make we no dey litter thread.

@ bassdow permit me to use your method of long posts for once 😁

fuckboys:
well, all of you suggesting to this guy to install a full solar setup worth millions in a store for charging of phones? Hmmm

To me, I think he should install a solar system that’s a little bit mobile than a full solar setup, make person no come cry for here say him shop has been burgled.


My suggestion, 3.4kwh colar solar generator and install 2 620w panels on your roof and manage your load. There’s also the plus version of the cola 3.4kwh with 2000w output.

If you close for the day, carry you solar generator dey go your house, you fit risk leaving panels for them.

brightk:
My advice to anyone who wants to setup a charging station on a low budget. Pls n pls stay away from power banks. If u must collect dem.. pls pick a few and not d so called big ones....even ur 4.5kwh would b dealt with

bassdow:
TlDr
- 4.2kva haisic inverter= 350,000 naira. A used one would be CHEAPer. Also 2kva would also work and is CHEAPer + less Solar Panels
- 24v 4.4kwh Lithium battery= 550,000 naira or 2pcs leadAcid battery (USEd)= 300,000 naira
- 6pcs 550w halfCut Mono Solar panels (NEW or USEd)= About 120,000 naira each (NEW) or 95,000 naira each (USEd)
- Solar cable= going by your budget, na NEPA wire of at least 35mm go work for you. A bundle should be enough.
- Skip mounting rails due to budget constraints; Binding wire or Concrete nails in the right hands would do a good job.
- You can't skip breakers (at least 2pcs) and surge protector
- Battery cable (A lot of batteries don't come with one hence budget for one)





If you got here, means Above wasn't enough for you, enjoy the ePistle below;

Since you intend running mostly day time, you need more of Solar panels than battery + still need give enough headRoom for days with dull weather

As per which is better between Hybrid vs non Hybrid inverters, would say that's a personal decision though most people prefer Hybrid inverters because they get to skip purchasing an externnal charge controller which could be pricey when quality is considered.
Another is, it lets them run more solar panels at high voltage.

Yet there are those who prefer nonHybrid inverters mostly because they're more durable and someWhat forgiving when stressed.

Another is, between a hybrid and nonHybrid inverter, chances of successfully repairing a non Hybrid inverter is mostly (always) much Higher than a hybrid inverter. At certain stage, even with a hybrid inverter, you might have to eventually use an external charge controller.

At end of the day, decission remains yours to make.

That being said, since you got the space + security and someWhat the budget, would suggest the below which ain't any diferent from what I suggested earlier

For batteries : you have options of either leadAcid or Lithium based batteries.
If going Lithium, and don't know reliable lithium battery sellers or how to identify quality ones, would suggest you buy from those who sell in here like Valto and mrReed so should the battery mess up, the group could drag them. 24v 4.5kwh is about 700,000 naira or 24v 8.5kwh which is 1.1 million naira last we bought from Valto. There's also mrReed who's much cheaper for 24v 8.5kwh of around 820,000 naira. You still could go for mrReed 24v 4.4kwh which is about 550,000 naira.
The batteries could be more cheaper depending if coming with wooden or meatlic box.

BUT if going for used Tubular or Dry cell batteries that's still in good condition, 300,000 naira should get you about 4.8kwh (that's 24v 200AH) which when coupled with enough solar panels, should really really serve you even in fairly poor weather.


Inverter : a 3.5kva to 5kva hybrid inverter from any average brand should do e.g Haisic 4.2kw. Reason I'm suggesting Hybrid inverter here is that most have direct Solar priority feature hence so long the load ain't bigger than what's coming from the Solar panels, they work your battery less. Non Hybrid inverters work somewhat similarly BUT not in same manner. And a haisic 4.2kw inverter can handle more than 6pcs of 600w solar panels

Solar Panels : Here you need at least 6pcs of 550w solar panels OR 8pcs of 450w or 400w solar panels. Ensure it ain't the old versions.

Solar cables : Copper is always the best BUT then, it's price could make one look for alternatives and yes, Aluminium would work BUT you need a thicker one to do same work as Copper. You need 10mm Copper cable or minimum of 35mm Aluminium cable (NEPA wire) which is much CHEAPer than 10mm Copper cable.

Don't forget, you still need breakers and other accessories to protect your investment. For mounting accessories, going by your budget, you could skip those so the big Small budget could better focus on more important things.

A small note on Surge protectors: Don't spend money buying surge protector if it wouldn't be connected to ground. Have seen those which weren't, Wonder what they're expected to do.

Unfaized:
Take Penuelseun suggestion above, as his advice is more practical if you want total dependence on solar. But in that case 1.5m won't be enough.

Go for a hybrid inverter 24v 4.2kva 330k

Get best Lithium battery deal from Mrreed 580k for 4.4kwh 24v

Get about 6 pieces of 550 or 600watts at least 700k (Panels are really big and heavy o so make sure you got roof space for it)

Budget better funds for installation and materials.

My reason for suggestion?

On load;
Assuming the average power of each charging brick is 25w, at full usage you're pulling over 2.5kw upwards that's why a 4.2kva inverter is suggested (Some chargers pull more)

Panels;
Your panels at full yield should be giving about 3.6kw, this means you will be able to fully utilize sunlight for daytime charging while getting your 4.4kwh battery filled by night time.

Battery size;
Assuming less loads in the evening, a 4.4kwh battery should carry you till 9pm with some juice left to begin the next day. Anything less won't give you optimal service and you may still need to use alternative source of electricity.

Note: A deep freezer's load isn't really significant as consumption is very low generally.

I want to appeal to all of us to try and be respectful to others here. You may not like someone's opinion, but definitely there's something to learn from it. To people that have questions, most of these questions have been answered in a few posts back, don't be lazy, try read up make we no dey litter thread.

@ bassdow permit me to use your method of long posts for once 😁