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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Ezimuoh: 9:46pm On Apr 06
eghos12:
Even all these legit monikers coming to this thread is already a red flag. You don't need to stress your self since you are in Kwara, your state people will buy from you and you been active on this thread will make people know you.
Exactly, it makes the whole thing even more suspicious
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Opistorincos(m): 9:48pm On Apr 06
HawkTuahGirl:
Fouani has a website where we can buy directly, why buy from you. You spelt even fouani wrong and you work there. Good luck in scamming business, I doubt anyone here will fall for it.
Lol, people who want to buy won't mind my typo. Also, buying from me guarantees some discount that you wouldn't get if you're buying on the website.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Opistorincos(m): 9:50pm On Apr 06
Ezimuoh:
Exactly, it makes the whole thing even more suspicious
Nairaland works with vouches. I do not mind escrows at all. An admin here can hold the customer's money and release it to me once the customer gets his or her item.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Opistorincos(m): 9:54pm On Apr 06
eghos12:
Even all these legit monikers coming to this thread is already a red flag. You don't need to stress your self since you are in Kwara, your state people will buy from you and you been active on this thread will make people know you.
Nairaland works with vouches. The people who vouched for me are individuals I’ve done business with in the past. If I had scammed them in any way during our transactions, none of them would have vouched for me.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Fremlin: 10:23pm On Apr 06
I don't know if I'm wrong ohhh

My Xiaomi 90w follow come charger doesn't consume more than 15w, abi na only my charger

It's even at 10w most times
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Legit1000: 10:36pm On Apr 06
@HawkTuahGirl Opistorincos is very trusted oo
100%
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by AyobamiOluwole: 10:53pm On Apr 06
Unfaized:
Where una dey see 15w chargers? Everybody just dey drop opinions lol.

The average chargers in the market right now are at least 25w, with some going as high as 40-50w power draw.

Phone charging business requires alot of energy, especially if you're located in a busy place that can do up to 100 phones and powerbanks in a day.

It's easy to throw words around like 2kva lol, try am first, body go tell u 😂. Better go and get a 4.2kva inverter if you're sure of 100 phones and above. That way nothing concern you with future upgrades. Don't be pennywise pound foolish.
Whether he is gonna use a 15Watts charger or a 50Watts, he should apply the same logic. They are all rated for you to do the maths yourself.

Go back to that calculation logic I made and figure out what battery and amount of solar panels will take care of your loads. Chikina.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Opistorincos(m): 11:07pm On Apr 06
WhiteAngels001:
Okay no problem.
Thank you very much for your patience. I'm going for the standard set up, however, I'll consider the 2kva because of cost
Try to up your budget. Go for either Smk, SMS, sako, grovolt, firman or cworth 24v 4kw inverter. You should be able to get one of the aforementioned inverters for 350k. For battery, you can go with 24v 2.5kwh lifepo4 from either valto, mrreeds, cworth or Deriy. The battery should cost you about 470k. For panels, you can go with either Jinko, Yingli or Longi antishading panels. Go for 550w and above. Try to get at least 4 units of the panels. The more the panels, the faster the charging and the better the load support.

Summary
Inverter - 4kw for 350k
Battery 24v 2.5kwh for 470k (since it is not advisable for you to close late)
Panels - Jinko, Yingli or Longi. 4 units and above.

Since you said you're on a budget, I would have suggested a 12v setup but at the end of the day, it'll not be a good financial decision to choose a 12v setup over a 24v setup as the price difference between the 2 is slim.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by fruqy(m): 12:16am On Apr 07
eghos12:
Even all these legit monikers coming to this thread is already a red flag. You don't need to stress your self since you are in Kwara, your state people will buy from you and you been active on this thread will make people know you.
This is wrong to assume.

He is legit and people coming out to vouch for him speaks to that. What do you mean by "his state people will buy from him"? People sell and buy from different states and I know he has delivered to different states. He also mentioned he can help people get it cheaper maintaining the same level of quality and warranty.

People coming to vouch for him doesn't make things worse. It speaks to his character and I'm surprised people are having issues with that.

Opistorincos is legit and you can get good deals from him. Simple.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Fremlin: 2:04am On Apr 07
Lols .... Who open door for all these ones
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by aterejr(m):
eghos12:
Even all these legit monikers coming to this thread is already a red flag. You don't need to stress your self since you are in Kwara, your state people will buy from you and you been active on this thread will make people know you.
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by aterejr(m):
HawkTuahGirl:
Fouani has a website where we can buy directly, why buy from you. You spelt even fouani wrong and you work there. Good luck in scamming business, I doubt anyone here will fall for it.
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by eghos12(m): 4:23am On Apr 07
fruqy:
This is wrong to assume.

He is legit and people coming out to vouch for him speaks to that. What do you mean by "his state people will buy from him"? People sell and buy from different states and I know he has delivered to different states. He also mentioned he can help people get it cheaper maintaining the same level of quality and warranty.

People coming to vouch for him doesn't make things worse. It speaks to his character and I'm surprised people are having issues with that.

Opistorincos is legit and you can get good deals from him. Simple.
Bro reputations does not build by you coming to a thread over 8 years old and gate crashing the existing protocol. You slowly build trust by offering your service over time. Many people here in this thread are solar installers, enthusiast, and users with vast knowledge in solar technology.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by eghos12(m): 4:28am On Apr 07
aterejr:
Very weird take but you're entitled to your opinion. Doesn't change the fact that he's one of the few people trying to make business easier and simpler without worrying about who you've sent your funds to. Distance has never been an issue in business for those who know.

I'd rather buy from or pay for a service to a legit person extremely far from me than to a questionable fellow that lives next door. He's as he said he is - no doubt
Me even been quoted and metion is already showing red flag. As vato,mrreed big reach dem nor go get this kind referals lipsrsealed lipsrsealed shocked shocked
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 6:59am On Apr 07
Unfaized:
Where una dey see 15w chargers? Everybody just dey drop opinions lol.

The average chargers in the market right now are at least 25w, with some going as high as 40-50w power draw.

Phone charging business requires alot of energy, especially if you're located in a busy place that can do up to 100 phones and powerbanks in a day.

It's easy to throw words around like 2kva lol, try am first, body go tell u 😂. Better go and get a 4.2kva inverter if you're sure of 100 phones and above. That way nothing concern you with future upgrades. Don't be pennywise pound foolish.
I use oraimo 6 watts fast chargers for my phone charging
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 7:05am On Apr 07
eghos12:
Me even been quoted and metion is already showing red flag. As vato,mrreed big reach dem nor go get this kind referals lipsrsealed lipsrsealed shocked shocked
You don't have problem,I have known the guy from domain thread on business section and he has been doing business on nairaland for long.He is legit and popular.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by SourYoghurt: 7:32am On Apr 07
HIGHESTPOPORI:
You don't have problem,I have known the guy from domain thread on business section and he has been doing business on nairaland for long.He is legit and popular.
I bought my first Redmi note 4 phone him in 2017 which I am sure he'll not remember me, but from my dealing with him he's a genuine person and I remember him in the domain flipping thread then, e dun tey man for hustling grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Unfaized: 8:26am On Apr 07
HIGHESTPOPORI:
I use oraimo 6 watts fast chargers for my phone charging
6 watts fast charger? Sure it's not a typo?

Fast charge starts from 18w, 22.5w PD and above( This will still take about 1hr 40 minutes to fully charge the average phone from 1%)

Even the cheapest power banks don't come with 6 watts.

The image below is the iPhone 5watts charger from so many years ago. These days they're only suitable for low power gadgets.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by AyobamiOluwole: 9:25am On Apr 07
Unfaized:
6 watts fast charger? Sure it's not a typo?

Fast charge starts from 18w, 22.5w PD and above( This will still take about 1hr 40 minutes to fully charge the average phone from 1%)
Now let’s do this maths you talked about a 22.5W charger charging for 1hour 40mins:

1hour 40minutes =1.67hours
Charging at 22.5Watts for 1.67hours =37.58Wh

Tell me which phone you’ve ever seen that has a capacity of 37.58Wh? If there is, it’s probably a gaming phone that is known only to gamers. Also, if a charger that is rated 22.5Watts will consume 37.58Wh (some energy are lost, I understand) to charge an 18.5Wh phone to about 95% to 100%, it means its efficiency is around 50%.

Most phones comes with Li-ion batteries of 5,000mah (5Ah just like these batteries Valto and Co sells 50Ah, 100Ah etc.) or 4,000mah (4Ah) with a nominal voltage of 3.7V. Meaning that for a big bank battery phone, it’s total capacity is :

5Ah by 3.7V = 18.5Wh
4Ah by 3.7V = 14.8 Wh

At the end, only 18.5Wh is the total consumption for big battery bank phone. So a 5000mah phone is 18.5Wh.

That a charger is rated 22.5Watts doesn’t mean it gives that continuous power rating, while some follow-come chargers are highly efficient to keep supplying the same rated power for some time (take a look at Samsung S23 below). Also, some phones don’t support fast charging, meaning that even if you buy all those inflated 😂 chargers, e no concern your phone. It will only take what it needs jejely.

Any phone charging business owner will do well to work with lower rated and efficient chargers that are designed to charge most phones without loosing so much power to losses.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 11:58am On Apr 07
eghos12:
Me even been quoted and metion is already showing red flag. As vato,mrreed big reach dem nor go get this kind referals lipsrsealed lipsrsealed shocked shocked
sorry bro, though scammers abound, but he is 100% legit and nothing to fear cheesy
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by eghos12(m): 12:12pm On Apr 07
Valto:
sorry bro, though scammers abound, but he is 100% legit and nothing to fear cheesy
Afa your jiji page nor dey load again.huh
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Unfaized: 12:23pm On Apr 07
AyobamiOluwole:
Now let’s do this maths you talked about a 22.5W charger charging for 1hour 40mins:

1hour 40minutes =1.67hours
Charging at 22.5Watts for 1.67hours =37.58Wh

Tell me which phone you’ve ever seen that has a capacity of 37.58Wh? If there is, it’s probably a gaming phone that is known only to gamers. Also, if a charger that is rated 22.5Watts will consume 37.58Wh (some energy are lost, I understand) to charge an 18.5Wh phone to about 95% to 100%, it means its efficiency is around 50%.

Most phones comes with Li-ion batteries of 5,000mah (5Ah just like these batteries Valto and Co sells 50Ah, 100Ah etc.) or 4,000mah (4Ah) with a nominal voltage of 3.7V. Meaning that for a big bank battery phone, it’s total capacity is :

5Ah by 3.7V = 18.5Wh
4Ah by 3.7V = 14.8 Wh

At the end, only 18.5Wh is the total consumption for big battery bank phone. So a 5000mah phone is 18.5Wh.

That a charger is rated 22.5Watts doesn’t mean it gives that continuous power rating, while some follow-come chargers are highly efficient to keep supplying the same rated power for some time (take a look at Samsung S23 below). Also, some phones don’t support fast charging, meaning that even if you buy all those inflated 😂 chargers, e no concern your phone. It will only take what it needs jejely.

Any phone charging business owner will do well to work with lower rated and efficient chargers that are designed to charge most phones without loosing so much power to losses.
You don't get the point bro.

2kva = 1.6kw because majority of inverters available have a power factor of 0.8

If the average rating of chargers is at 25w (x),(My powerbank charger is 150w), and number of phones & powerbanks (n), whenever n=100, x=2.5kw(+ or -) minus other loads. This will happen many times during the day.

With 4.2kva you're safe coz it's basically 3.5kw, which means you have more than enough room. Anything smaller, you must need to upgrade in a very short time coz your inverter will continue to shutdown many times due to overload.

As for total energy draw, that's a different case entirely dependent on solar yield and battery bank. Some chargers are smart and only pulls max rating between 1-80% & will continuously adjust based on temperature and other factors.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Litewriter: 1:05pm On Apr 07
Well, it all depends on the guy's financial capacity.....
But, I can assure you that out of 100 power banks and phones plugged, only 40% will be pulling the stated 25w, maybe 50% max, if you're in a student area where they use better phones and "better charger" cus you can have a device that supports fast charger, if you're using wrong cable or adaptor, max you'll be pulling is 10w.

If it's that 2kw inverter the guy can afford, let him go for it...I believe theres always a way to manage situations.
Unfaized:
You don't get the point bro.

2kva = 1.6kw because majority of inverters available have a power factor of 0.8

If the average rating of chargers is at 25w (x),(My powerbank charger is 150w), and number of phones & powerbanks (n), whenever n=100, x=2.5kw(+ or -) minus other loads. This will happen many times during the day.

With 4.2kva you're safe coz it's basically 3.5kw, which means you have more than enough room. Anything smaller, you must need to upgrade in a very short time coz your inverter will continue to shutdown many times due to overload.

As for total energy draw, that's a different case entirely dependent on solar yield and battery bank. Some chargers are smart and only pulls max rating between 1-80% & will continuously adjust based on temperature and other factors.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Unfaized: 1:16pm On Apr 07
Litewriter:
Well, it all depends on the guy's financial capacity.....
But, I can assure you that out of 100 power banks and phones plugged, only 40% will be pulling the stated 25w, maybe 50% max, if you're in a student area where they use better phones and "better charger" cus you can have a device that supports fast charger, if you're using wrong cable or adaptor, max you'll be pulling is 10w.

If it's that 2kw inverter the guy can afford, let him go for it...I believe theres always a way to manage situations.
We're just giving suggestions based on experience, projections & what to expect. Of course the final decision is with him. He already stated a budget of 1.5m
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 1:39pm On Apr 07
eghos12:
Afa your jiji page nor dey load again.huh
https://jiji. ng/sellerpage-4581356
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow:
You guys are funny. I always suggest you get into Business with the lowest possible viable budget and upGrade as time goes. No need buying a 10kva inverter ad end up barely recovering the shop rent for first year.

Once again, a 3.5 to 4.2 or 5kva inverter is more than enough for a start and except the business ballons over Night which is kinda rare in present day except you're located in a place with not just abundant foot traffic BUT you the only person with powerSupply in entire community and chances of anyOne duplicating your trade is next to nothing. You and I knows that might be TRUE several years ago BUT hardly nowAdays.

Nairaland, Yahoo, Jumia, OLX, 2Go, etc easily became popular withOut much competition becauuse at their time, they were mostly the only One. And when competition came, majority of them fizzled away.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by WhiteAngels001(m): 4:41pm On Apr 07
bassdow:
Please first ensure the price difference between 2kva and 3kva isn't much. if close enough, then makes more sense going for 3kva or 3.5kva or go straight to 4.2kva or 5kva for a start AND upGrade when you get there.

GoodLuck
No problem.
I'll give you feedback when I entirely get them.

Thank you once again
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Obnoxious2001(m): 5:32pm On Apr 07
E get some new moniker(they are not regular) whey dey guarantee OP.

Make me self post my own panels for sell grin grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by brightk(m): 5:55pm On Apr 07
Obnoxious2001:
E get some new moniker(they are not regular) whey dey guarantee OP.

Make me self post my own panels for sell grin grin
grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bassdow: 6:28pm On Apr 07
Obnoxious2001:
E get some new moniker(they are not regular) whey dey guarantee OP.

Make me self post my own panels for sell grin grin
HaHaHa. You don dey talk like Me.

AnyWay sha, even if e legit, still doesn't proof OP is affiliated to Fouani BUT me no too wan stress matter.

Make I give you scope: Open Shop wey dey sell Solar related items, or dey do MiddleMan, then come tell use Fouani sales rep. Don't worry, people wey go buy go Buy even if identity sell market. So long you dey deliver, e go tey before people go suspect you
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 7:02pm On Apr 07
oweniwe:
I took this very wasteful route before.

Tell him to buy QC 3.0 DC charging modules. If he have patience, order from temu or AliExpress.... But if patience no dey, buy from jiji and have it waybilled to your location

To power it, take it to electrician to soldier live/Neutral wire directly in the back where the pin indicates because the thing gets quite hot with power pin and power pins spoil easily...

So take the charging modules to electrician to soldier live/neutral wire to the back ... Now connect all the wires by polarity to the charge controller or battery and boom ... No need for expensive chargers again

If a charging module burn (very rare) just take it to electrician to repair it.

Don't mind my haphazard method... I connected all the live together and put the neutral I to the socket so I can just pull out the neutral wire to turn off a particular charger.

You can buy wall light switch and call electrician to wire it for you so you can be turning a particular charger on/off by just pressing the switch
😊....you just let out a powerful secret.. I have done my studies well, and DC charging is the most efficient for USB chargers. You could be saving up to 30% energy that would have been wasted if you used an AC source.

I once asked a guy here that said he sells power if we could link up, but na air he air me....I just smiled.

Knowledge no de finish for this life.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by IRAPADA(m): 7:35pm On Apr 07
good evening one,I came home this evening and my children told me around 1pm or 2pm my inverter was piping and when dey off it,it started smoking though still working and when I open it to see what is wrong inside I found out some capacitor are burnt . though the instill working.what is the function of those capacitor and how can I fix the problem. 3.5kva yohako inverter

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