₦airaland Forum

Daguccizgreat:
Tinubu has 32 Governors in his party yet he's dead scared of ADC. That's a clear evidence of total failure as president

Svoboda:
It's not about speaking. Even a mad man can speak. It's about conviction. Jonathan had people who could speak for him. We all know how it ended. The adc won't have been on people's lips if the govt had done average. People are naturally pivoting towards alternatives because they believe nothing can be worse than what we have now.

AMINDA:
Here's INEC's oath before the court of law affirming that they were present when the ADC NEC ratified Mark and Aregbe as leaders of the party and reminding the courts that no court has jurisdiction over the internal affairs of a party.

fergie001:
I have seen ADC's reply but hadn't seen INEC's. Thanks for this!

Saint99:
How are people willing to make themselves available to be used as a tool to sow discord because of money that would finish? Apapa made himself available to scatter the Labour Party, and Abure joined the bandwagon soon after. Now, in ADC, they have also located another willing tool that would soon be forgotten in the scheme of things when the chips are down.

fergie001:
I have seen ADC's reply but hadn't seen INEC's. Thanks for this!

9jatriot:
This is exactly what fraudulent politicians do. They will never tell you the full story, they will visit you, make sure you take pictures with them and then go and release a press release that you have endorsed them.

This man was already salivating on how he will be an executive in a party that has Atiku and other leaders only to be told that he will be a floor member without even following due process. I have said it before and I will say it again.

Let us even for a second assume that they resigned, does the former ADC chairman have the power to just give the position to anyone of theiir choice?

It is like an ex-coach of Real Madrid goes and meets the coach of Blackburn and tells him to resign and hand over to him just like that. NO resort to the board, no investor input, the Blackburn coach just decides on his own who to hand over. How does it even make sense?

If all the exco resign at the same time, it makes sense for an interim management from the old members to take over or the NEC takeover, not total strangers.

How does it even make sense that you join a party today, you become its leader that same day, just like that. If this Bala guy did not contest it, another member would have done so, because it does not make sense. Their best bet would have been to work with the present leaders, ensure they do their bidding not drive them away from their party and humiliate them.

In all of these Atiku and David Mark share the lion share of the blame.

seunmsg:
INEC is a party to the case and they simply defended their decision to recognize the David Mark faction. That they filed this position before the court does not mean they are right and it doesn’t mean the court must accept their position.


In this case, the court has given a preservative order for all parties to cease any action until the FHC decides the matter. So, all parties including INEC are supposed to head back to the FHC and make all their arguments. And what did you guys do? You stalled that process and took the case again to the Supreme Court. You even asked for a stay of execution of the preservative order. That’s, keep us illegally in office while we stall the process till it’s too late for the FHC to decide the case due to INEC timetable.


In law, that’s an abuse of court process. You can’t get away with such nonsense. David Mark will not be recognized until the FHC rules on the matter. No matter the media noise, propaganda and blackmailing, INEC will never disobey the court order. Go back to Justice Nwite and show cause why Bala Gombe should not be declared the National Chairman. Period.

9jatriot:
I have always said it, thinking logically is not really your turf.
How did any of the statements here make sense?

The question remains, how did strangers suddenly become the chairman of an existing party that has laid down rules for succession?

The APC you referenced, was there any of them that came from another party to come and hijack?

Daguccizgreat:
Tinubu has 32 Governors in his party yet he's dead scared of ADC. That's a clear evidence of total failure as president

ogascomax:
When you look at is tweets afterwards does it look like he was not part of the meeting.
If he wasn't preview to that meeting or agreed to the change in leadership then is tweet would have been different.

aswani:
Did we read the same thing? He was there to welcome Aregbe and Mark to ADC. Suddenly Nwosu resigned, after I guess seeing the alert, as did the then chairman.

They pulled the rug from right under his feet without sending him any alert and they don't want him to cry out, how is that fair? On top of that, they are now doing monitoring spirit on top of his matter.

If this ADC mistakenly gets to power ẹhn, we don enter one chance finish for dis country bí dat.

A member of the National Working Committee of the ruling All Progressives Congress has confirmed the resignation of Abdullahi Adamu as the National Chairman of the party.

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He noted that the [b]Deputy National Chairman, North, Abubakar Kyari, would take over as the acting national chairman [/b]in line with the constitution of the party.

Kukutente23:
They are strangers in your view not in the view of the party because if they were, they wouldn't have access to a NEC meeting except you mean strangers also attend APC NEC meeting

The bottomline is that APC has a Deputy Chairman when Adamu resigned and instead of him to take over, Ganduje appeared from nowhere. APC had a deputy National secretary when Omisore resigned but instead of him to take over the secretaryship, Basiru emerged out of the blue. Both men were never members of APC NWC before they suddenly took over the party affairs. So can you tell us how Ganduje and Basiru took over APC that had clear method of succession outlined in its constitution?
Let us see how much logic you have in the head you're carrying around

Thonakom:
Can you just hear yourself and what is coming out from your mouth?
Scared of who?
Have you ever seen PBAT any where talking about them. He is more focused than interfering on one structureless group called ADC

9jatriot:
NEC meeting? HOpe you are not mistaking Exco meeting with NEC meeting.

Now to the APC matter, see how you shoot yourself in the foot. When Adamu resigned, he did not handover power to his friends or strangers from another party, instead Kari, the then deputy national chairman took over, that is how it is done in any organized society.

seunmsg:
INEC is a party to the case and they simply defended their decision to recognize the David Mark faction. That they filed this position before the court does not mean they are right and it doesn’t mean the court must accept their position.


In this case, the court has given a preservative order for all parties to cease any action until the FHC decides the matter. So, all parties including INEC are supposed to head back to the FHC and make all their arguments. And what did you guys do? You stalled that process and took the case again to the Supreme Court. You even asked for a stay of execution of the preservative order. That’s, keep us illegally in office while we stall the process till it’s too late for the FHC to decide the case due to INEC timetable.


In law, that’s an abuse of court process. You can’t get away with such nonsense. David Mark will not be recognized until the FHC rules on the matter. No matter the media noise, propaganda and blackmailing, INEC will never disobey the court order. Go back to Justice Nwite and show cause why Bala Gombe should not be declared the National Chairman. Period.

Kukutente23:
Lol. Why are you APC folks like this?
You were talking about logic just a few moments ago!!

Kindly tell us how Ganduje became chairman when Kyari still remained Deputy chair. Tell us how Yilwatda became chair after Ganduje and Kyari is still deputy chair!! How come Kyari is not your acting chairman since 2023 when Adamu resigned? How come he's still deputy chairman till today? Dem forbid chairman for am?
APC members want to be debating based on logic

Kukutente23:
You and reality are never best of friends. It seems there's always an alternate universe where your head is peacefully tucked and where your imagination alone holds as absolute reality
If you were anywhere close to the facts on ground about this issue, you'll know that Ralph Nwosu who was the same "then chairman" announced his resignation on the 2nd July, a clear full month before he officially resigned and handed over to Mark on the 29th July. Now juxtapose this hard reality with your delusions above. Or are you just trolling? Poor attempt I must say

Akpakomiza2:
Most of those pivoting are those who where always against Tinubu. Looking at the bigwigs for instance, apart from El rufai who dislikes Tinubu, I challenge you to mention someone who moved from tinubu camp.( Gawuna is for Guber, Aregbe didn't support Tinubu 2023).
The momentum or media drive happening now is what happened in 2019 and 2023. A month to the poll, the opposition lost steam. The government made moves which confused the opposition camp. It is not a new thing. Even in 2015, Gej could have turned the tide if he had more time. That 6 weeks postponement enabled him to close the gap. Until ADC replicate what happened in 2015, no chance.
By the way tinubu son is running for house of reps under APC. Atiku has lost Katsina

aswani:
Are you getting your information from the stuff that was culled from Nafui Bala's Facebook or elsewhere?

Kukutente23:
You mean you are still at Nafiu's fb? No wonder you're misfiring... The video of Nwosu's resignation is everywhere. Use google an get properly informed. It is bemusing to see an adult clothe himself with so much ignorance

Eleph:
The Judas of ADC progress is speaking out to justify his betrayal.

Saint99:
How are people willing to make themselves available to be used as a tool to sow discord because of money that would finish? Apapa made himself available to scatter the Labour Party, and Abure joined the bandwagon soon after. Now, in ADC, they have also located another willing tool that would soon be forgotten in the scheme of things when the chips are down.

9jatriot:
If this is your definition of logic then wahala de.

APC: Chairman resigns, hands over to the next in line, who is the deputy national chairman. Then later proper procedure is followed to elect a substantive chairman.

ADC: They claim chairman resigns, then he hands over to total stranger who at the time he was resigning were not yet members of the party or at best had joined that same day.

How do those 2 situations sound similar abeg?

seunmsg:
How can attendance at a meeting mean concurrence to whatever some people pre-planed?

Whatever is even the case, why is ADC refusing to go and defend their decision at the FHC as ordered by the Appeal Court? If the court did not give any order that affected the legitimacy of the David Mark leadership, why did they appeal the judgement to the Supreme Court? Why did they file a motion for stay of execution?

As at today, they have refused to go back to the FHC where the judge is waiting to give them an accelerated hearing. Instead, they are fooling around with daily propaganda on social media thinking they can blackmail INEC into disobeying a valid court order.

Penguin2:
INEC chairman said they obeyed court order of status quo ante bellum; and they said it’s going back to as things were before the ‘war’.

But before the war, ADC had leadership.

How come after the war ADC no longer has leadership?

Lamidi Apapa did more than this. Where is he told?

Nafiu Gombe will pass away too.

AMINDA:
That is their prerogative but be rest assured that they will. How would the ADC have become this popular if they had rushed to do so? They needed to show Nigerians and the world, the level of Tinubu's antidemocratic tendencies and desperation. It's an open and shut case. Tell Tinubu to prepare for elections. The document above puts an end to all your shenanigans.

Svoboda:
https://www.nairaland.com/8649263/how-tinubu-won-lost-north#139020460

Kukutente23:
What proper procedure was followed in electing Ganduje over the deputy chairman? Can you itemise the procedure and how it differs from that of the ADC. Let us see your logic
In the case of ADC, the chairman and the NWC resigned prompting their replacement in a NEC meeting
For APC, only the chairman and secretary resigned and instead of the most senior NWC member to take over, he was discarded like used pad and a total stranger to the NWC climbed over all the NWC to become chairman.
Show us the logic in that