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Same winner that donated ventilator and ambulance during the COVID pandemic will not have oxygen Nigerians and celebrating fake news

GabrielYulaw:
Check Twitter, brotherly. Accounts there are consistent in the guy being brought in alive to the clinic and not able to breathe, and there being no oxygen to treat him. So they started praying for him till he kpai.
He's not even the only one to kpai like that in the last few years. And this being Nigeria, where consequences for bad behaviour are almost non-existent, this exact situation will happen again and you will show up here to ask me how I know the university adminstratin were lying.

babzo:
My man. I am not in Nigeria. This is what is practiced in the United States. Its what I have seen with my own eyes. And here is a screenshot from Google.

If you see someone at an accident scene or injured or distress and is non responsive, not breathing, no pulse; you attempt to give CPR.

You are saying a different thing. I said that someone is dead when they are not conscious, not breathing and have no pulse. The opposite are the 3 major conditions that keep us alive.

Applying CPR on someone who doesn't have the 3 is like going to a mortuary and applying CPR on corpses. Anyone who does that is either foolish or trying their luck.

SmartPolician:
You are saying a different thing. I said that someone is dead when they are not conscious, not breathing and have no pulse. The opposite are the 3 major conditions that keep us alive.

Applying CPR on someone who doesn't have the 3 is like going to a mortuary and applying CPR on corpses. Anyone who does that is either foolish or trying their luck.

CPR is applied on someone whose heart has stopped beating and isn't breathing...to reverse the situation. It's kind of the point.

Cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) is an emergency treatment that's done when someone's breathing or heartbeat has stopped. For example, when someone has sudden cardiac arrest or nearly drowns. CPR can help save a life

SAUCE

What may appear as death to you is a reversible thing to us doctors.

When should CPR Not be done

CPR should not be performed in cases of irreversible death, such as when there are unmistakable signs like rigor mortis, decapitation, or dependent lividity. A valid do-not-resuscitate order or advance directive indicating the patient's wish to forgo resuscitation is also a clear contraindication.

In addition, CPR may be deemed nonbeneficial in patients with terminal illnesses or in situations where meaningful recovery is highly unlikely. In such cases, the Society of Critical Care Medicine recommends using clinical judgment alongside institutional policies to guide decisions

SAUCE 2

Note that rigor mortis sets in some 2-6 hours after the episode of death. As the patient was brought into the hospital almost immediately he collapsed, the contraindication does not apply

Dependent lividity sets in some 20 minutes to 3 hours after. The guy was at the hospital, from what is implied, within 20 minutes.

(I think we can rule the other tings out).

Also, it is safe to assume that the doctors did not notice any signs of rigor mortis or dependent lividity in the patient, hence the decision to commence CPR.

broIZ:
Why wasn't he rushed to Chapel for healing?

It is not too late.

They can still bring his body to your house, so you can lay your miracle working legs on him

GabrielYulaw:
Check Twitter, brotherly. Accounts there are consistent in the guy being brought in alive to the clinic and not able to breathe, and there being no oxygen to treat him. So they started praying for him till he kpai.
He's not even the only one to kpai like that in the last few years. And this being Nigeria, where consequences for bad behaviour are almost non-existent, this exact situation will happen again and you will show up here to ask me how I know the university adminstratin were lying.

did medical examiner ask they to make room for him to breathe.

nairalanda1:
CPR is applied on someone whose heart has stopped beating and isn't breathing...to reverse the situation. It's kind of the point.



SAUCE

What may appear as death to you is a reversible thing to us doctors.

When should CPR Not be done



SAUCE 2

Note that rigor mortis sets in some 2-6 hours after the episode of death. As the patient was brought into the hospital almost immediately he collapsed, the contraindication does not apply

Dependent lividity sets in some 20 minutes to 3 hours after. The guy was at the hospital, from what is implied, within 20 minutes.

(I think we can rule the other tings out).

Also, it is safe to assume that the doctors did not notice any signs of rigor mortis or dependent lividity in the patient, hence the decision to commence CPR.

Leave rigor mortis alone. You are well known to sprinkle malicious argument with technical jargons as a bullying strategy.

Ishilove:
Every parent's worst nightmare.

May we not receive a call that our child is dead. I gave you my child hale and hearty and you are now calling me to come and pick his corpse??

Chukwu aju ife ojo!!!

The boy went there and wasnt given to the school.

The talk should be about what the medical centre did. How professional were they? Was oxygen truly lacking as being reported in SM?

Those are the points that should dominate discuss.

The boy's family have released their statement. Saw that on LIB.

CodeTemplar:
The boy went there and wasnt given to the school.

The talk should be about what the medical centre did. How professional were they? Was oxygen truly lacking as being reported in SM?

Those are the points that should dominate discuss.

The boy was in their custody, sir. As long as he in their custody, he was given to them and should be returned back to his parents the same way they gave them or in an even better condition. Not for someone to come with stories about how he 'died' between the sports field and the medical center. God forbid.

Ishilove:
The boy was in their custody, sir. As long as he in their custody, he was given to them and should be returned back to his parents the same way they gave them or in an even better condition. Not for someone to come with stories about how he 'died' between the sports field and the medical center. God forbid.

The loss is painful but reasoning shouldn't go on sabbatical because emotions are high. The weighty allegation of neglect and poor equipments should take front burner here.

CodeTemplar:
Leave rigor mortis alone. You are well known to sprinkle malicious argument with technical jargons as a bullying strategy.

Good morning , son. Have a good day with your wife, and may God bless you richly...and I hope all well with you too.

Wonder what's wrong with that lad called CodeTemplar?

He gets hurt too easily.

nairalanda1:
Good morning , son. Have a good day with your wife, and may God bless you richly...and I hope all well with you too.

i christen you naijabully1 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

wetin pesin no go see for social media in general and nairaland in particular?

this is what it has devolved to - coherent arguments are now technobullying 😿

CodeTemplar:
The loss is painful but reasoning shouldn't go on sabbatical because emotions are high. The weighty allegation of neglect and poor equipments should take front burner here.

I agree, I am not disputing that. However, my comment is an aside from a place of horror.

Harddiskng:
It is not too late.

They can still bring his body to your house, so you can lay your miracle working legs on him

SmartPolician:
You are saying a different thing. I said that someone is dead when they are not conscious, not breathing and have no pulse. The opposite are the 3 major conditions that keep us alive.

Applying CPR on someone who doesn't have the 3 is like going to a mortuary and applying CPR on corpses. Anyone who does that is eit[b][/b]her foolish or trying their luck.

No thats not how first aid works.

The very fact that someone is non responsive ( unconscious, not breathing, no pulse) is EXACTLY Why you apply CPR in the hopes that you revive them. Thats why its called REVIVE THEM.

Quick question: Have you ever been in such a situation? If you haven't, you seriously should ask those who have been. I suggest you also visit the websites of the Red Cross. American Medical Association or even Mayo Clinic

thrillionaire:
whether government or the church uni, we need hard facts before we cast stones.

Don't allow your prejudice lead you. That's all I'm saying.

Omo cast the stone. Church business na runs.

Ishilove:
So the God who gave man medical knowledge doesn't know what He is doing, abi?

so the winners church doesn't know what it's doing by believing in Divine healing and Miracles?

Harddiskng:
It is not too late.

They can still bring his body to your house, so you can lay your miracle working legs on him

I said Chapel, not my house.

yomi531:
Winners Chapel don't do mumu things like that. When someone is sick, his/she is advised to go the hospital for proper care. Church members will visit u in church and pray for u for speedy recovery. They don't also do all those mumu vision thingy in winners. If u carry that kind mumu talk come, u will be walked out ASAP..

Having faith in God to heal the boy isn't mumu thing in Winners. It's one of their main tenets. Unless it's all talk and no 'do'

yomi531:
Winners Chapel don't do mumu things like that. When someone is sick, his/she is advised to go the hospital for proper care. Church members will visit u in church and pray for u for speedy recovery. They don't also do all those mumu vision thingy in winners. If u carry that kind mumu talk come, u will be walked out ASAP..

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SageTravels:
If they do, you will still question why they did not go to hospital.

maybe, but if the boy had gotten healing and lived, why would I still question ?

broIZ:
Having faith in God to heal the boy isn't mumu thing in Winners. It's one of their main tenets. Unless it's all talk and no 'do'

True. U will also be advised to seek medical attention. That's what I'm trying to say. Not that someone will have a terminal disease and , he or she will just go to a prayer house without proper medication. That's stupidity 💯.