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Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by zegxy: 3:02pm On Apr 11
Empresa:
Iran is not a small country, Iran is supposed to be booming in economy if they weren't sponsoring Terrorists and shouting death to America since the inception of Ayatollah.

Iran were quick to enter negotiation because America was ready to sweep them clean and getting a hint from Parkistan the level of hell Trump was bringing, they quickly met the deadline.

Iran may boom in economy after a successful negotiation but world power NO. Iran will not be allowed to Toll the strait of Hormuz and US will want a joint patrol of the region so as to get a better view on what goes around at the strait Incase of next time.

How does that make Iran a world power. Terrorists just de jubilate at downing two war planes but an entire military that could make you world power has been whipped out.
You dey mind them

Their eyes go soon clear. Bahrain categorically said that Iran can't lay claim to the strait of Homuz as it belongs to the whole gulf states.
Your jubilation that Iran would control the strait of Homuz will soon be cut short. Just wait for the negotiations to be concluded
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by KobolanderSegun: 3:03pm On Apr 11
zegxy:
You dey mind them because their ears heard what they want to hear, they have swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

Lol your eyes go soon clear. Bahrain categorically said that Iran can't lay claim to the strait of Homuz as it belongs to the whole gulf states.
Your jubilation that Iran would control the strait of Homuz will soon be cut short. Just wait for the negotiations to be concluded
Iran never said it belong to them. What they are saying is any ship that pisses by their country had better pay money. The problem is people can bomb ships from Iran side so to stop that Iran had to be brought on board.
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by ElSudani: 3:03pm On Apr 11
zegxy:
Lol your eyes go soon clear. Bahrain categorically said that Iran can't lay claim to the strait of Homuz as it belongs to the whole gulf states.
Your jubilation that Iran would control the strait of Homuz will soon be cut short. Just wait for the negotiations to be concluded
Why did Bahrain not open the strait? Why did Trump basically surrendered and agreed to 10 points plan they initially rejected. They feel so embarrassed they couldn't openly tell Americans what they agreed to.
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by donleo92(m): 3:05pm On Apr 11
Sundaymessi:
This post requires strategic thinking to understand the message of the OP.This is not Biafra.
No be only strategic thinking na analytical composition grin

Dey play
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Neoteny(m): 3:08pm On Apr 11
US negotiated with the Taliban, now in (of all places) Islamabad negotiating with the IRGC.

USA: we do negotiate with terrorists!

😂
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Bede2u(m): 3:09pm On Apr 11
8
donleo92:
Make una dey deceive una self.... grin grin grin

Propaganda dey sweet, without it, you can't sell grin

Why is Vietnam not concerned a world power...... Because most people feel they won the war grin grin

And the Americans suffered heavier lost than what they have now undecided

So Iran is a world power, Because they shoot down two helicopter grin

but all their leaders been kpaied like chicken everyday, and their military infrastructure been destroyed is not a victory for America righthuh?

Make una dey mu mu

I shaa want the terrorist nation, not to accept the ceasefire cheesy grin

And let them try that stunt of using to defend their installation again
This type of comment is called junior opinion. The article clearly states that Iran's ability to effectively control traffic in the straits of Hormuz makes them an important power.
Does Vietnam have a strait of Hormuz or something similar to control? Junior opinion
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by 2RightHands1Coc(m): 3:16pm On Apr 11
Dreamers FC
CaseSensitive:
All thanks to Trump. Iran has never really flexed its strategic muscles until Trump FA and FO. Gone are the days where USA ruled the world with a strong military to back it up. That era is now disappearing in the eyes of the world - their financial control and military power can now be checkmate and that's what the world needs.

With Europe totally on the sidelines and no where to be found, power is shifting from West to East. Don't let the new world order catch you unprepared, start stacking gold if you can.
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by udemzyudex(m): 3:17pm On Apr 11
Who are this clowns for godsake and who is this mod pushing every nonsense about Iran to FP?
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by mhmsadyq(m): 3:17pm On Apr 11
UrVillageChief:
A major world power whose topmost leaders were killed like chickens on the very first days of their first-ever major war grin
A major world power who can't boast of killing even a single fly from its adversaries' sides. A major power that boasts only about hitting buildings and stationary aircrafts grin grin
Please tell us more jokes Dr
Even if they have killed everyone in the country.

America has been humbled to negotiation with its tail between it legs, mediated by a third party that is more of an ally to Iran than America.

This is very significant to the image of Iran.

Israel cannot go close to the Pakistan because Israel has been an enemy of Pakistan since since since.
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by gammarays(m): 3:17pm On Apr 11
A world power whose economy and currency is in shambles
A world power that can't protect her leaders, top officials and facilities 😂😂😂

A world power forcing civilians to form human shield

A thread for terrorists sympathizers
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Ndenomy: 3:22pm On Apr 11
donleo92:
Make una dey deceive una self.... grin grin grin

Propaganda dey sweet, without it, you can't sell grin

Why is Vietnam not concerned a world power...... Because most people feel they won the war grin grin

And the Americans suffered heavier lost than what they have now undecided

So Iran is a world power, Because they shoot down two helicopter grin

but all their leaders been kpaied like chicken everyday, and their military infrastructure been destroyed is not a victory for America righthuh?

Make una dey mu mu

I shaa want the terrorist nation, not to accept the ceasefire cheesy grin

And let them try that stunt of using to defend their installation again
Because they responded and defended themselves against the bully, USA which a lot of you are angry about.

They bombed Isreal- the choosen feefle indeed

Them bomb the gulf states whr host usa missles

Them bomb usa interests all in the middle east

Them block strait of hormuz which has effected the dollar but we’ll soon start seeing the effects on the long run.

The usa only took out the old, lenient Ayatolah and replaced him with a more angrier one. Is it by the top military, leaders and scientists usa killed? No!! Its by achieveming your aim. Even the enriched Uranium the USA never see

Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by donleo92(m): 3:22pm On Apr 11
Bede2u:
8 This type of comment is called junior opinion. The article clearly states that Iran's ability to effectively control traffic in the straits of Hormuz makes them an important power.
Does Vietnam have a strait of Hormuz or something similar to control? Junior opinion
Shut up your d*ir*ty m00uth grin

Senior Iranian terro**rist anal***yst grin
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Bendeco02: 3:22pm On Apr 11
If any Muslim country will ever be among world power in this Earth, it will be Saudi Arabia.

Iran is not a world power material.

You can't be world power by terrorist act.

There's difference between being a strong man and a trouble maker.
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Bwanasaraw: 3:25pm On Apr 11
Iran is gradually becoming a failed State like Syria, Yemen and Lebanon
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Oakenshield: 3:27pm On Apr 11
donleo92:
Make una dey deceive una self.... grin grin grin

Propaganda dey sweet, without it, you can't sell grin

Why is Vietnam not concerned a world power...... Because most people feel they won the war grin grin

And the Americans suffered heavier lost than what they have now undecided

So Iran is a world power, Because they shoot down two helicopter grin

but all their leaders been kpaied like chicken everyday, and their military infrastructure been destroyed is not a victory for America righthuh?

Make una dey mu mu

I shaa want the terrorist nation, not to accept the ceasefire cheesy grin

And let them try that stunt of using to defend their installation again
no mond them yes Iran control a critical aspect of the trade doesn't make them a super power. Saudi,Qata,Bahrain still have scores to settle with Iran and surely the regime can't even make anything close to enrichment of uranium
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Nextjs: 3:29pm On Apr 11
ElSudani:
Like a broken record...terrorists, terrorists. The people who carry out assassinations and kill children and civilians everyday are not terrorists.
You don't know who arms hezbollah in labenon?
You don't know who armed Hamas.

don't pretend you don't know when all this started?

Hamas killed hundreds of isreali and kidnapped them took them to gaza in October 7 attack.

Isreal responded with force..

The case of Iran was also tied to this October 7.
Go n search for iran leader speech. The one that was killed... He said "isreal don't have right to exist"
That the day they get nuclear weapon they will wipe them off.

You expect isreal to fold their arms n watch like ur Nigerian government?

They had to get US support to wipe out the scientist, wipe out the generals, the leadership etc destroy the site.


Hoping the dead leader will come to terms but didn't instead he continued rebuilding and he was taken out.

Let everyone leave in peace but note that isreal won't fold their arms in middle East. They will trouble those countries that are hostile to them.
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Helinuss: 3:30pm On Apr 11
By throwing missile indiscriminately?

Your supreme leader killed
Your leaders were killed
Your generals were precisely eliminated

Your airspace was occupied by israel for 1 week carrying out strikes last year

Please what sort of world power is that? This yeye Muslim sef
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Abrahills:
So true! To be a world power the country has to always lose most of its leaders in the first wave of any war just as Iran often does. Funny people!
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by ElSudani: 3:34pm On Apr 11
Nextjs:
You don't know who arms hezbollah in labenon?
You don't know who armed Hamas.

don't pretend you don't know when all this started?

Hamas killed hundreds of isreali and kidnapped them took them to gaza in October 7 attack.

Isreal responded with force..

The case of Iran was also tied to this October 7.
Go n search for iran leader speech. The one that was killed... He said "isreal don't have right to exist"
That the day they get nuclear weapon they will wipe them off.

You expect isreal to fold their arms n watch like ur Nigerian government?

They had to get US support to wipe out the scientist, wipe out the generals, the leadership etc destroy the site.


Hoping the dead leader will come to terms but didn't instead he continued rebuilding and he was taken out.

Let everyone leave in peace but note that isreal won't fold their arms in middle East. They will trouble those countries that are hostile to them.
I know when it started. In 1947 when Israel was created in Palestine and the systematic attempt by Israel to create an apartheid state and kill anyone who says otherwise.
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by higgs: 3:35pm On Apr 11
This professor is professing rubbish. Losing your head of state and top military command easily, completely losing your air space to foreign powers etc,these are not the characteristics of a world power.The Iranians are quite formidable and resilient because they don't fear death,which is quite common with people who have a religious ideology.The Americans are negotiating because they don't want American casualties which they will definitely have if they do a ground invasion.
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Safyqueen: 3:40pm On Apr 11
Gotocourt:
Iran will be crushed again over Strait of Hormuz.

It's a natural passage not a artificially created canal📌💯
But why the cry for resource control in Nigeria? Is oil in Niger delta artificially created? Na question I just ask oooo.
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by ElSudani: 3:41pm On Apr 11
higgs:
This professor is professing rubbish. Losing your head of state and top military command easily, completely losing your air space to foreign powers etc,these are not the characteristics of a world power.The Iranians are quite formidable and resilient because they don't fear death,which is quite common with people who have a religious ideology.The Americans are negotiating because they don't want American casualties which they will definitely have if they do a ground invasion.
What you are saying is that military superiority alone is sometimes not enough, right? That is exactly what the prof is saying.
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Minjim: 3:42pm On Apr 11
Iran is just making a lot of noise by playing on sympathizers intelligence .

Most people like underdogs -even i do but, not a terrorist one .
If not for the passage theyre blocking , they wont hqve any leverage.
Morever, thtat passage doesnt belong to only iran . Thats how you know iran his a bully in the middle east.
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Leonardo4(m): 3:43pm On Apr 11
God1000:
Arab countries will have to face the new reality, they are spineless hypocrites
All you open thread only you started discussing with yourself on the thread. Delusion grandeur
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Geebabs: 3:45pm On Apr 11
God1000:
By Robert A. Pape

Dr. Pape is a professor of political science at the University of Chicago who studies military strategy and international security


In recent years, the conventional geopolitical wisdom has been that the world order was moving toward three centers of power: the United States, China and Russia. That view assumed that power derived primarily from economic scale and military capability.



https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/06/opinion/iran-war-strait-hormuz.html
Supreme leader killed on first day of war. They were defeated from day 1
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Arrowhead71: 3:56pm On Apr 11
donleo92:
Make una dey deceive una self.... grin grin grin

Propaganda dey sweet, without it, you can't sell grin

Why is Vietnam not concerned a world power...... Because most people feel they won the war grin grin

And the Americans suffered heavier lost than what they have now undecided

So Iran is a world power, Because they shoot down two helicopter grin

but all their leaders been kpaied like chicken everyday, and their military infrastructure been destroyed is not a victory for America righthuh?

Waytin una understand as world power selfhuh?? grin

Shaa Make una dey mu mu

I shaa want the terrorist nation, not to accept the ceasefire cheesy grin

And let them try that stunt of using to civilians to defend their installation again


Them go blow them and their civilians to hell grin grin
Bros just laugh them...
Because china transferred cluster bombs to Iran regime and they lunch missiles..that make them stupid power ....
But Isreal that know all your movements including when you are top of your wife is underestimated
Even Russia and China knows Israelis are dangerous specie
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by falopey: 3:57pm On Apr 11
Truthissupreme:
Yes o, they have brought America to negotiating table and still bossing them with red lines

Trump is boxed, he can't return to the war and he would have to concede big cos this arrangement is going to be later ratified by the UN as Iran demanded

Trump has no cards again except empty threat but the world knows America still has no balls to defend homuz

The upper hand of Iran has the yam and knife
. In the latest news, Iran is unable to open the strait because they don’t have the capability and infrastructure to remove all the land mine planted in the sea. They plant the mines but can’t find them. That’s why the strait is closed. This is how Iran has shut themselves in the foot because now America will take over the strait since America has ocean mine sweeper. Iran can’t open it because they don’t know how to remove the mines . They just gave America the legitimacy to take it
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Arrowhead71: 3:58pm On Apr 11
CaseSensitive:
All thanks to Trump. Iran has never really flexed its strategic muscles until Trump FA and FO. Gone are the days where USA ruled the world with a strong military to back it up. That era is now disappearing in the eyes of the world - their financial control and military power can now be checkmate and that's what the world needs.

With Europe totally on the sidelines and no where to be found, power is shifting from West to East.
Power shift to who in your East
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Johncarlo07: 4:02pm On Apr 11
Jakarta:
Major world power that couldn't even protect the most protected person in the country, and are using humans as shield. Maybe the statement "major world power" has a new meaning.
But ur world power (USA) ran out of deir bases in d middle East, nd started living in hotels due to Iran missiles nd drones attack on deir bases😂😂.

Wat are dey doing? Using humans nd civilian habitation as shields.
Soo much for a world power.

Iran don humble una😄😄
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Arrowhead71: 4:03pm On Apr 11
fineboynl:
Iran into world power is an overstatement.

Regional power years that what it is.

But saying world power is blowing things out from popution. The hate for Donald Trump and in coming election will cause this type of statement we are seeing to undermine trump efforts

You could as way say Ukraine is now a world power. Because Russia couldn’t defeat it for over 4 years.

If not for Hormuz iran have no leverage. All theirs leaders are gone. What type of war js that. When enemy control the airspace. This time of statement is why Israel want to see the end.
Thank you...
Ukraine is now super power because she is still standing after 4 years war with Russia....and blow up 40 Russia bombers in a day ....politician political logics
All Iran leaders dying every day with ease...what sort of super power is that
Re: The War Is Turning Iran Into A Major World Power - Dr. Robert A. Pape by Ojuntana: 4:10pm On Apr 11
ElSudani:
Why did Bahrain not open the strait? Why did Trump basically surrendered and agreed to 10 points plan they initially rejected. They feel so embarrassed they couldn't openly tell Americans what they agreed to.
Lol
When did US agree to anything other than a ceasefire?
You guys and delulu
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