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The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 11:19pm On Apr 12

There is this narrative that the state of Israel is occupied by fake Jews who were brought into that region by Britain.

I will like to put some records straight.

First the reason why Britain was at the forefront of relocating the Jews back to their ancestral home in present day Palestine is because most of the influencal people in Britain that time were of Jewish (Israel) descent.

Take for instance a man like Benjamin Disraeli. He was born and raised a Jew (Israel). His father had disagreement with some persons at the synagogue and converted to Christianity along with his family.

Disraeli went ahead to marry an influential woman who helped him into the house of commons and subsequently climbed to become a prime minister.

Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 11:27pm On Apr 12

The Jews are called Israel. How did they became Israel?

A man name Abraham was called by God to leave his home land.

Guess the country?

Iraq.

Abraham is from Iraq. Israel is distance cousin to Iraq.

Abraham left Iraq and journeyed to the present day Israel which some people call Palestine.

The people who lived in that land when Abraham came there were Canan, Amorite, Philistines, Jordan, etc. There was not Palestine in that land then.

Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 11:32pm On Apr 12

Abraham gave birth to Ismael from his wife's maid. Ismael is the father of the Muslim world.

After 12 year Ismael was born. The wife of Abraham whose name was Sarah, gave birth to Isaac.

Isaac gave birth to Easu and Jacob. Jacob had his name changed to Israel by an Angel of God.

So the name Israel is from Jacob not Isaac nor Abraham. Israel started with Jacob not Abraham not Isaac.

Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 11:38pm On Apr 12

Jacob took his family which is the nation of Israel to Egypt in the time of drought. After his death, the children of Israel spent 400 years plus in Egypt.

After which, Moses led them to the present land of Israel which was Canan.

Some said, Israel doesn't look like the middle east. Israel doesn't look very much like their neighbours because their culture and tradition doesn't allow them to marry outside their nation.

An Israel will look more of an Iraq his distance cousin than Jordan his neighbour

Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 11:44pm On Apr 12

The culture and tradition of Israel make the different. This different because a problem to Israel.

Everyone far an near became their enemy. War became a consistent event to Israel. They won some, they lost some. But in all, they always have people living in the land.

Until Rome came. Rome destroyed the land of Israel. Took the people away. This was mainly to disproof the prophecies of the Jews as contained in their writings.

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Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 11:52pm On Apr 12

In the places the Israel were exiled to, they maintained their culture and tradition. A few changed and took up the culture and tradition of their host nations.

However, majority maintained their culture and tradition. As the people of Israel rose in ranks and influence in the nations they were taken to, they championed the return of Israel to their ancestral home.

When the call came to relocate the Jews back to their ancestral home. It was voluntary. Majority of the Jews who chose to return were the poor.

They were shocked to their bones when they got to today Israel. The land was a desert. The wealthy among the Jews who didn't return were sending food and other necessities to those who chose to return.

Re: The Fake Jews by Horus(m): 12:05am On Apr 13*

Beautifulday:
There is this narrative that the state of Israel is occupied by fake Jews who were brought into that region by Britain.

I will like to put some records straight.

First the reason why [b]Britain was at the forefront of relocating the Jews back to their ancestral home [/b]in present day Palestine is because most of the influencal people in Britain that time were of Jewish (Israel) descent.

Take for instance a man like Benjamin Disraeli. He was born and raised a Jew (Israel). His father had disagreement with some persons at the synagogue and converted to Christianity along with his family.

Disraeli went ahead to marry an influential woman who helped him into the house of commons and subsequently climbed to become a prime minister.

You are doing the same mistake that 99% of Africans are doing. The pale skinned people that you see today in The State of Israel are NOT the original people of that land because they are Israelis, but not Israelites. I hope that you see the difference between the two. The same go for The State of Israel and Israel.
Because the Zionist control the majority of te media in the West they will intentionally make you believe that the two are one and the same. so that you will not be aware that the pale skinned people that you see today in The State of Israel are impostors, (not the originals)

Key Differences

Israeli (Modern): A citizen or permanent resident of the modern State of Israel (established in 1948).
This is a nationality, not a religion.

Israelite (Ancient): A member of the ancient black skinned tribes descended from the biblical patriarch Jacob (who was renamed Israel).

This is an ethnic and religious identity.

The Land

State of Israel (established in 1948), populated by pale skinned invadors pretendindg to be the originals

Israel (Biblical Israel of ancient time), populated by black skinned tribes

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Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 12:32am On Apr 13

Horus:
You are doing the same mistake that 99% of Africans are doing. The pale skinned people that you see today in The State of Israel are NOT the original people of that land because they are Israelis, but not Israelites. I hope that you see the difference between the two. The same go for The State of Israel and Israel.
Because the Zionist control the majority of te media in the West they will intentionally make you believe that the two are one and the same. so that you will not be aware that the pale skinned people that you see today in The State of Israel are impostors, (not the originals)

Key Differences

Israeli (Modern): A citizen or permanent resident of the modern State of Israel (established in 1948).
This is a nationality, not a religion.

Israelite (Ancient): A member of the ancient black skinned tribes descended from the biblical patriarch Jacob (who was renamed Israel).

This is an ethnic and religious identity.

The Land

State of Israel (established in 1948), populated by pale skinned invadors pretendindg to be the originals

Israel (Biblical Israel of ancient time), populated by black skinned tribes

Israel was never black skinned.

Where did the original Israel came from?

You said I am making the same mistake Africans are doing.

However, you are spreading the same propaganda Muslims are spreading.

Can you tell us which part of Africa the original Israel came from. From where the go your imaginary black skin?

Re: The Fake Jews by Horus(m): 3:15am On Apr 13

Beautifulday:
Israel was never black skinned.

Where did the original Israel came from?

You said I am making the same mistake Africans are doing.

However, you are spreading the same propaganda Muslims are spreading.

Can you tell us which part of Africa the original Israel came from. From where the go your imaginary black skin?

I am not a Muslim and I am not a Christian. I am not religious and I deal only with Facts, not beliefs. You just don't get it but it is not your fault. You deal with religious brainwashing instead of dealing with scientific and archeological facts. Scientists all agree that the whole planet was populated by blacks since millions of years. It was a black planet. Pale skinned people are on this planet since 6000 Years only. So do your own research to find out who was in that land previous to 6000 years ago?

Re: The Fake Jews by fineboynl(m): 4:26am On Apr 13

Beautifulday:
Abraham gave birth to Ismael from his wife's maid. Ismael is the father of the Muslim world.

After 12 year Ismael was born. The wife of Abraham whose name was Sarah, gave birth to Isaac.

Isaac gave birth to Easu and Jacob. Jacob had his name changed to Israel by an Angel of God.

So the name Israel is from Jacob not Isaac nor Abraham. Israel started with Jacob not Abraham not Isaac.

you re talking rubbish. There is no evidence that ismeal defendant is Muslim that is a fake story.

No evidence to back that up. You claim abraham ks from iraq that means he is arab. Than you went further to say ismeal is arab and Muslim. You are sick

Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 9:02am On Apr 14

fineboynl:
you re talking rubbish. There is no evidence that ismeal defendant is Muslim that is a fake story.

No evidence to back that up. You claim abraham ks from iraq that means he is arab. Than you went further to say ismeal is arab and Muslim. You are sick

Iraq wasn't Arab. Iraq, Iran were Persian. The Arab world came from Ismail the son of Abraham.

Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 9:05am On Apr 14

Horus:
I am not a Muslim and I am not a Christian. I am not religious and I deal only with Facts, not beliefs. You just don't get it but it is not your fault. You deal with religious brainwashing instead of dealing with scientific and archeological facts. Scientists all agree that the whole planet was populated by blacks since millions of years. It was a black planet. Pale skinned people are on this planet since 6000 Years only. So do your own research to find out who was in that land previous to 6000 years ago?

As religion brainwash people, that is how science brainwash people.

Except you were among the scientist that conducted an experiment, you are brainwashed by their opinion.

That said, fair people existed. It is recorded in the bible that Abraham was afraid that the people will kill him because of his fair beautiful wife when he left Iraq to Egypt.

Re: The Fake Jews by masterfactor(m): 9:08am On Apr 14

@ChristCee we need your input on this because you are finding it hard to trace your root, are you a jew whose ancestors migrated to Nigeria??

Re: The Fake Jews by Horus(m): 11:33am On Apr 14

Beautifulday:
As religion brainwash people, that is how science brainwash people.

Except you were among the scientist that conducted an experiment, you are brainwashed by their opinion.

That said, fair people existed. It is recorded in the bible that Abraham was afraid that the people will kill him because of his fair beautiful wife when he left Iraq to Egypt.

If you want to refer to a Bible, why do you refer to the European Bible?. If you really want to stick to scriptures you should then refer only to the most older version of that book that exist on the planet. I am taking about The Ethiopian Bible, often called the "most complete" because it contains 81 to 88 books, compared to the 66 books found in the standard European Bible. Many Books have been intentionally excluded from the Western/European Bible because they revealed too many Facts about the same subject that we are talking about in this thread that you opened on Nairaland. The Ethiopian Bible is several centuries older than the Europeanised version. In the European whitewashed version they changed the names and faces of the people to remove everything that they don't want you to know. You will then realize that the pale skinned people that you see today in the modern State of Israel are NOT the original people and owners of that land. They are invaders pretending to be the originals. This is what Zionism is all about, fooling people to take control. This is why many Africans are confused, not realizing that these invaders are not even christians. Only 2% of the population of their country are christians. Please try to do more effort in your search to avoid being fooled by these Zionist manipulators

Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 11:43am On Apr 14

Horus:
If you want to refer to a Bible, why do you refer to the European Bible?. If you really want to stick to scriptures you should then refer only to the most older version of that book that exist on the planet. I am taking about The Ethiopian Bible, often called the "most complete" because it contains 81 to 88 books, compared to the 66 books found in the standard European Bible. Many Books have been intentionally excluded from the Western/European Bible because they revealed too many Facts about the same subject that we are talking about in this thread that you opened on Nairaland. The Ethiopian Bible is several centuries older than the Europeanised version. In the European whitewashed version they changed the names and faces of the people to remove everything that they don't want you to know. You will then realize that the pale skinned people that you see today in the modern State of Israel are NOT the original people and owners of that land. They are invaders pretending to be the originals. This is what Zionism is about. Many Africans are confused, not realizing that these invaders are not even christians. Only 2% of the population of their country are christians. Please try to do more effort in your search to avoid to be fooled by these Zionist manipulators

Israel as a nation has never been Christian and they can never be Christians. The day the become Christians, they cease to be Israel. So stop being emotional and gaslighting people.

You said Ethiopia has the oldest Bible?

They don't have the oldest history book of Ethiopia but it's the history book of Israel they have.

When a brainwashed wannabe intellectual suddenly looses his mind.

The bible is the history book of the Israel nation. It is not a research book. Anyone who claim to have it who is not a Jew is a liar.

What is history by the way?

A story of events told over years documented together.

Everyone has written Israel history. Everyone want to write Israel history but their own.

The big question is

WHY?

There is nothing like modern Israel. This is like saying modern Yoruba or Igbo or Fulani. Does that make sense to you?

What make Israel or any ethnic group what they are is the culture and tradition.

Israel is an ethnic group that has a nation of it's own.

Just imagine that the Igbos or the Yoruba has their own nation and stick to their culture and tradition completely. That is what it is.

Re: The Fake Jews by Elusive001: 4:14pm On Apr 14

Horus:
You are doing the same mistake that 99% of Africans are doing. The pale skinned people that you see today in The State of Israel are NOT the original people of that land because they are Israelis, but not Israelites. I hope that you see the difference between the two. The same go for The State of Israel and Israel.
Because the Zionist control the majority of te media in the West they will intentionally make you believe that the two are one and the same. so that you will not be aware that the pale skinned people that you see today in The State of Israel are impostors, (not the originals)

Key Differences

Israeli (Modern): A citizen or permanent resident of the modern State of Israel (established in 1948).
This is a nationality, not a religion.

Israelite (Ancient): A member of the ancient black skinned tribes descended from the biblical patriarch Jacob (who was renamed Israel).

This is an ethnic and religious identity.

The Land

State of Israel (established in 1948), populated by pale skinned invadors pretendindg to be the originals

Israel (Biblical Israel of ancient time), populated by black skinned tribes

So what happened to your so-called original Jews or israel? Where are they now?

Re: The Fake Jews by Elusive001: 4:16pm On Apr 14

Beautifulday:
Israel as a nation has never been Christian and they can never be Christians. The day the become Christians, they cease to be Israel. So stop being emotional and gaslighting people.

You said Ethiopia has the oldest Bible?

They don't have the oldest history book of Ethiopia but it's the history book of Israel they have.

When a brainwashed wannabe intellectual suddenly looses his mind.

The bible is the history book of the Israel nation. It is not a research book. Anyone who claim to have it who is not a Jew is a liar.

What is history by the way?

A story of events told over years documented together.

Everyone has written Israel history. Everyone want to write Israel history but their own.

The big question is

WHY?

There is nothing like modern Israel. This is like saying modern Yoruba or Igbo or Fulani. Does that make sense to you?

What make Israel or any ethnic group what they are is the culture and tradition.

Israel is an ethnic group that has a nation of it's own.

Just imagine that the Igbos or the Yoruba has their own nation and stick to their culture and tradition completely. That is what it is.

He is referencing his so-called Ethiopian Bible, but discard the Torah, the Holy Bible, and other Jewish history books

Re: The Fake Jews by Elusive001: 4:24pm On Apr 14

Beautifulday:
Abraham gave birth to Ismael from his wife's maid. Ismael is the father of the Muslim world.

After 12 year Ismael was born. The wife of Abraham whose name was Sarah, gave birth to Isaac.

Isaac gave birth to Easu and Jacob. Jacob had his name changed to Israel by an Angel of God.

So the name Israel is from Jacob not Isaac nor Abraham. Israel started with Jacob not Abraham not Isaac.

Ishmael is not the father of muslims. That's what they claim, but it is not true. Do more research on this. Arabs were first mentioned in Genesis 10.

Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 4:49pm On Apr 14

Elusive001:
He is referencing his so-called Ethiopian Bible, but discard the Torah, the Holy Bible, and other Jewish history books

Just imagine that. He doesn't know that the bible is the history book of the Jews. Nah Ethiopia dey write Jewish history.

The Jews don suffer for people hand. Everyone claim to know their history more than themselves.

Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 4:51pm On Apr 14

Elusive001:
Ishmael is not the father of muslims. That's what they claim, but it is not true. Do more research on this. Arabs were first mentioned in Genesis 10.

Arabs aren't in the bible. Do you even know that the mother of Ismail is Egypt?

Re: The Fake Jews by Elusive001: 5:44pm On Apr 14*

Beautifulday:
Arabs aren't in the bible. Do you even know that the mother of Ismail is Egypt?

Ethnically, Egyptians are not Arabs. If you say that Hagar was an Egyptian and an Arab, it shows that he was not their father.

Re: The Fake Jews by Elusive001: 5:46pm On Apr 14

Beautifulday:
Just imagine that. He doesn't know that the bible is the history book of the Jews. Nah Ethiopia dey write Jewish history.

The Jews don suffer for people hand. Everyone claim to know their history more than themselves.

Brod abeg leave that Islamic terrorists supporter. He and his brethren will say anything and everything to paint Israel black and deny Israel's "Jewishness".

We no dey reason them

Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 5:47pm On Apr 14

Elusive001:
Ethnically, Egyptians are not Arabs. If you say that Hagai was an Egyptian and an Arab, it shows that he was not their father.

Do lineage go with male or female? Na wa for you ooh.

Isaac is the father of Israel vis a vis Jews
Ismail is the father of Arab vis a vis Islam

Both are children of Abraham

Abraham is from Iraq.

Re: The Fake Jews by Elusive001: 5:51pm On Apr 14*

Beautifulday:
Do lineage go with male or female? Na wa for you ooh.

Isaac is the father of Israel vis a vis Jews
Ismail is the father of Arab vis a vis Islam

Both are children of Abraham

Abraham is from Iraq.

Lineage is traced to father. I said that to knock you out of any claims of Arabs from Hagar

Nothing concerns Ishmaep with islam

Who was Joseph sold to?

Re: The Fake Jews by Beautifulday(op): 6:48pm On Apr 14

Elusive001:
Lineage is traced to father. I said that to knock you out of any claims of Arabs from Hagai

Nothing concerns Ishmaep with islam

Who was Joseph sold to?

Joseph was sold to the Ismaelites. Ismael is the father of islam. Hagai is the mother of Ismael. Ismael had a thriving community before Isaac even gave birth to Easu and Jacob

Re: The Fake Jews by Elusive001: 7:20pm On Apr 14

Beautifulday:
Joseph was sold to the Ismaelites. Ismael is the father of islam. Hagai is the mother of Ismael. Ismael had a thriving community before Isaac even gave birth to Easu and Jacob

What's the proof of this bros? Ishmael could not have had a thriving community by then. By how many years was Ishamel older than Isaac? How long does it take to have a community?

Jacob was never sold to the descendants of Ishmael, the son of Abraham.

Genesis 37:26-28 NKJV
[26] So Judah said to his brothers, “What profit is there if we kill our brother and conceal his blood? [27] Come and let us sell him to the Ishmaelites, and let not our hand be upon him, for he is our brother and our flesh.” And his brothers listened. [28] Then Midianite traders passed by; so the brothers pulled Joseph up and lifted him out of the pit, and sold him to the Ishmaelites for twenty shekels of silver. And they took Joseph to Egypt.

The words Ishmaelites and Midianites are used interchangeably in the verses above. So are Ishmaelites then Midianites?

Re: The Fake Jews by Elusive001: 7:25pm On Apr 14

Beautifulday:
Joseph was sold to the Ismaelites. Ismael is the father of islam. Hagai is the mother of Ismael. Ismael had a thriving community before Isaac even gave birth to Easu and Jacob

https://www.meforum.org/ishmael-father-arabs

Re: The Fake Jews by Horus(m): 12:28am On Apr 15*

Beautifulday:
Israel as a nation has never been Christian and they can never be Christians. The day the become Christians, they cease to be Israel. So stop being emotional and gaslighting people.

You said Ethiopia has the oldest Bible?

They don't have the oldest history book of Ethiopia but it's the history book of Israel they have.

When a brainwashed wannabe intellectual suddenly looses his mind.

The bible is the history book of the Israel nation. It is not a research book. Anyone who claim to have it who is not a Jew is a liar.

What is history by the way?

A story of events told over years documented together.

Everyone has written Israel history. Everyone want to write Israel history but their own.

The big question is

WHY?

There is nothing like modern Israel. This is like saying modern Yoruba or Igbo or Fulani. Does that make sense to you?

What make Israel or any ethnic group what they are is the culture and tradition.

Israel is an ethnic group that has a nation of it's own.

Just imagine that the Igbos or the Yoruba has their own nation and stick to their culture and tradition completely. That is what it is.

Your problem is that you just reply without even reading entirely what I am posting. You are not even doing an effort to read with accuracy. You are telling me that there is no such a thing as the modern Israel. I never said the modern Israel, I said the modern State of Israel (Created in 1948), Not the Biblical Israel. I even posted in a previous post the definitions from the encyclopedia that show you the differences between the two, yet you are still making the same mistake again and again because you simply don't care and refuse to use the dictionary. I have to say it again, 99% of Africans are thinking that Israel (Biblical) and "The State of Israel" (Creation of 1948) are the same when it's Not. Ask yourself the following question: Why would they create a State in 1948 if it was the same state that was there already?. This detail should create curiosity in you to force you to do some researchs but you don't. You can't even see the difference between Israeli and Israelite even when I showed it to you in a previous post. Don't you realise that it's two different words with two different definitions in the Dictionary describing two different people?. No you don't because you believe that the two words mean the same people so you don't bother to look at the Definition in the Dictionary.The rest of your message is just emotional rambling with no accuracy at all. You are confusing and mixing everything at the same time. I cannot help someone who is not interested in searching, reading and learning. I can't help people who refuse to help themselves. The paleman had really destroyed the mind of Africans with religious brainwashing.

Re: The Fake Jews by Horus(m): 12:40am On Apr 15*

Elusive001:
So what happened to your so-called original Jews or israel? Where are they now?

The original have been chased away and scattered in different parts of Africa and the rest of the world and many have been killed by invaders. One day I even saw an old documentary showing thousands black people living in 1930 in Jerusalem. Today they are no longer there

Re: The Fake Jews by Elusive001: 8:08am On Apr 15

Horus:
The original have been chased away and scattered in different parts of Africa and the rest of the world and many have been killed by invaders. One day I even saw an old documentary showing thousands black people living in 1930 in Jerusalem. Today they are no longer there

When were they chased out?
Who were the invaders who chased them out?

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