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MaxInDHouse:
Is he that relevant?🤔

Well he was the one interviewed on CNN... not you😉

Mattswaggz:
Where is ur evidence?.

The Holy Books......

But if your don't regard them, it is okay too!

goslowgoslow:
Go and read further and help yourself. You don't even know the definition of an atheist.

Unfortunately you haven't even opened your buccal cavity with any definition or knowledge.
Noise devoid of content makes a grown up adult a clown.

Did you notice how upfront I have you the definition of an Atheist and you have not even clarified your position nor corrected with your perfect definition of Atheism.

So, lets see how enlightened you are about the subject matter

1. I had defined the term Atheist and their preferred designation of "lack of belief" as illogical
2. I had stated that ORISA (Deities) are SPIRITS

Your counter please

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Kobojunkie:
Why are even the most learned among Nigerians some of the most ignorant? I can't seem to wrap my head around this. 😒😒😒

Not trying to hold brief for any religion but want to understand exactly how did this man come away concluding that the traditional orisa worship we have in Yoruba land is less associated with violence? is he suggesting we turn a blind eye to the violence of money rituals or ritual murders for example? 😒😒

I happen to have read somewhere that he is or was a cultist and we all know it is associated with traditional worship ideas. Are cults equally less violent? 😒😒''

2. He is free to believe in whatever he chooses; but he does not have freedom to make up his own facts, abeg. To this day, we don't know whether much of the kidnapping happening across Nigeria is connected to orisa worship or not but the pattern seems to follow in many cases.😒

Go back nd read very well
It seems u have problem with ur comprehension..

Not by typing d epistle wey u type soo?

Starhearts:
✓ Go back nd read very well
It seems u have problem with ur comprehension..
Not by typing d epistle wey u type soo?

Look who's rambling!🥱🥱

Lukuluku69:
The Holy Books......

But if your don't regard them, it is okay too!

Which of the "holy books" there are many with contradicting claims. .

CNN belongs to the West o so they are using people like him to tune Africans to which ever channel they want after all our people view him as a celebrity due to the prize they gave him!😂

CandidSeeker:
Well he was the one interviewed on CNN... not you😉

goslowgoslow:
The screenshot below will help you because you obviously don't understand what being an atheist is all about. I don't want to argue with you again, you can do further research yourself. Have a good day.

I once met a Doctor of Planes and it makes sense to people like you.

Strictly speaking:
An atheist is one who considers himself as
1. Lacking a Belief
2. Doesn't believe in any Deity!

Any other definition is like defining humans with respect to vision as homosapiens with either two, one or zero eyes.


If this is your position I am sorry for you.





TO HELP YOU,
I have THREE DICTIONARIES YOU CAN CHECK OUT FOR THE DEFINITION OF ATHEIST

Webster
Oxford
Dictionary.com

Mattswaggz:
Which of the "holy books" there are many with contradicting claims. .

Very true there are many of themout there but if you read hough them carefully, you will see a common thread within the pages which is:

1. Faith- Mainly belief in a Creator Being

2. Series of commandments extolling to goodness to all.

Mattswaggz:
✓ Which of the "holy books" there are many with contradicting claims. .

This needs to be highlighted. I remember a couple of years ago, when there was a push to suggest that all religions believe essentially the same thing. Nothing could be more far from the truth. Even within the same religion, you are bound to knf many diametrically opposed beliefs. 🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
I disagree! Some of the most self aware individuals out there are those who say they are grounded by their belief in either one god or idea or the other. People who have no such grounding are usually many of those who are least cannons. 🤔🤔

Who is delusional? The one that believes his religion which was influenced by geography is the true one amongst thousands or the one who can think critically for himself and places organized indoctrination called religion where it should be placed.

For People criticising Prof Wole Soyinka ‼️

May you find healing for the hate in your heart ❤️💔

Lukuluku69:
Very true there are many of themout there but if you read hough them carefully, you will see a common thread within the pages which is:

1. Faith- Mainly belief in a Creator Being

2. Series of commandments extolling to goodness to all.

Stop deviating.....you claimed that a day will come when he will stand before his creator and give account....now back your claims and stop changing the narrative.

Negroid001:
✓ Who is delusional? The one that believes his religion which was influenced by geography is the true one amongst thousands or the one who can think critically for himself and places organized indoctrination called religion where it should be placed.

1. First of all, delusions are not all bad. Yes, they are all founded on lies, but some delusions can be necessary evils. 🥱🥱

Second, most people whether religious or not, operate under one form of delusion or another. We are not all brave when it comes to fixing reality head on, so we latch onto delusions here and there to keep us steady hopefully until we became more courageous. Third, it does not really matter the geography of the particular delusion. What instead matters is how beneficial that delusion is to you and the wider society in which you find yourself in. 🥱🥱

I hate religion. It is built on lies and deceit, I have seen and read the terrible things religion can make men do to even their own flesh and blood. 🥱🥱

But I have also read and seen how equally barbaric and depraved the human mind can become without religion. Worse, what I understand now that uncontrolled expression of that barbarism/depravity can wreck unthinkable havoc to the fabric of society. And you know what? And I have had to come to the conclusion that if I had to choose , I would choose religion over unchecked depravity. 🥱🥱

Mattswaggz:
Stop deviating.....you claimed that a day will come when he will stand before his creator and give account....now back your claims and stop changing the narrative.

Oh you want a quote?

On that day, people will come forward in separate groups to be shown their deeds: whoever has done an atom’s weight of good will see it, but whoever has done an atom’s weight of evil will see that.” (Quran, 99:6-

Negroid001:
It's not coincidence how me and a lot of intellectuals align on the same belief. You cannot be intelligent and belief in a made up God used to oppress your ancestors and brainwash you.

really....where did the one u believe in come from, i hope its not branwash also?

Kobojunkie:
Look who's rambling!🥱🥱

D money dem use send u go skool supposed used built poultry farm

MaxInDHouse:
Who cares what you believe baba?😂

Don't mind him. Does Orisa worshipping permit one to invade a Radio Station with a gxn as was done in 19... Without Christianity, would he had become literate & exposed to Western Education etc? I beg pack for one side Prof

Mattswaggz:
Stop deviating.....you claimed that a day will come when he will stand before his creator and give account....now back your claims and stop changing the narrative.

Mathew 12;36-37

Very correct

pak:
The post mentioned Atheism but what was described was more attuned to natural religions than strict atheism.
Most atheist disavow any form of spirituality or beliefs in the afterlife or any worlds outside the physical realm.

Most people don't know that the West are diplomats and highly intelligent than we are viewing them.
They know that the politics they played in the past claiming they are doing it for Jesus has been exposed so they need to restrategize by using our own brothers to tune us to where they want.
They are the one who set the stage and gave our brother the prize that will make us view him as a celebrity so with his noble whatever they gave him our people will like to hear what he has to say that's why they are interviewing him on their own media.
If Wole Soyinka claim he doesn't believe in the Bible or Quran many will be easily carried away thinking he is against Western Culture but there is a question we need to ask ourselves:
Which traditional religion is our brother practicing presently?
Is it Ọ̀rúnmìlà, Ṣàngó, Ọ̀ṣun, Ọbàtálá or Ògún?
Abeg he is nothing but a joke jàre!🙂

joefelin2345:
Don't mind him. Does Orisa worshipping permit one to invade a Radio Station with a gxn as was done in 19... Without Christianity, would he had become literate & exposed to Western Education etc? I beg pack for one side Prof

That was why you founded the confra that have been raining havoc on youth as a sign of you demonic stance. You will soon meet your Waterloo.

Lukuluku69:
Oh you want a quote?

On that day, people will come forward in separate groups to be shown their deeds: whoever has done an atom’s weight of good will see it, but whoever has done an atom’s weight of evil will see that.” (Quran, 99:6-

Still not what I asked for......I said "evidence" not a quote from any book.

He was toung then and is old now, you are young, takeover from there.

Ever8090:
Shei this man protest during Johnathan's regime when fuel was 170 ,a bag of rice wa 6k when we use to buy 2 eggs 50 naira, 1 round bread 30 naira...today na religion him dey discuss instead to go protest....I stop taking him serious Long time ago .

solmat:
That was why you founded the confra that have been raining havoc on youth as a sign of you demonic stance. You will soon meet your Waterloo.

You cannot imagine how many attempts have been made by folks to whitewash the nonsense the man helped create in that country, today. 🥱🥱

TenQ:
I once met a Doctor of Planes and it makes sense to people like you.

Strictly speaking:
An atheist is one who considers himself as
1. Lacking a Belief
2. Doesn't believe in any Deity!

Any other definition is like defining humans with respect to vision as homosapiens with either two, one or zero eyes.


If this is your position I am sorry for you.





TO HELP YOU,
I have THREE DICTIONARIES YOU CAN CHECK OUT FOR THE DEFINITION OF ATHEIST

Webster
Oxford
Dictionary.com

All these gibberish you are posting over a very simple comment is comprehension this difficult? I was using that to explain to the dude that I quoted, that while atheist don't believe in God the still have believe is some spiritual things or being. You are are here sending the meaning of atheist to me as if I don't know it.
This is what happens when people just jumped into comments section without following the thread. Keep wasting your energy.

Stop fooling yourself Mr. man. There is good and bad in every aspect of life, including every religion.

Orisa worship and ritual killing are not the same thing. Just as we have white magic or white witchcraft for doing good; we also have black magic or black witchcraft for doing evil.

In traditional religious practices there are those who are oriented towards the light or the good and those who are oriented towards the dark side (the evil). Don't mix things up.

Kobojunkie:
Why are even the most learned among Nigerians some of the most ignorant? I can't seem to wrap my head around this. 😒😒😒

Not trying to hold brief for any religion but want to understand exactly how did this man come away concluding that the traditional orisa worship we have in Yoruba land is less associated with violence? is he suggesting we turn a blind eye to the violence of money rituals or ritual murders for example? 😒😒

I happen to have read somewhere that he is or was a cultist and we all know it is associated with traditional worship ideas. Are cults equally less violent? 😒😒''

2. He is free to believe in whatever he chooses; but he does not have freedom to make up his own facts, abeg. To this day, we don't know whether much of the kidnapping happening across Nigeria is connected to orisa worship or not but the pattern seems to follow in many cases.😒

TenQ:
Unfortunately you haven't even opened your buccal cavity with any definition or knowledge.
Noise devoid of content makes a grown up adult a clown.

Did you notice how upfront I have you the definition of an Atheist and you have not even clarified your position nor corrected with your perfect definition of Atheism.

So, lets see how enlightened you are about the subject matter

1. I had defined the term Atheist and their preferred designation of "lack of belief" as illogical
2. I had stated that ORISA (Deities) are SPIRITS

Your counter please

Gibberish nothing meaningful to say! You can continue fighting with your key board and Google.
Atheist don't believe in God yes nobody is arguing that but they still believe some form of spirit I don't know why comprehension is this difficult. After now I will block you, I don't go back and forth with children because you are so pained that now you are being rude.

Omoawoke:
Mention any major violence that is attached with Orunmila…

Just mention one…

I can list endless violence associated with your Jewish god..

But that’s not even enough insult, the fact that your god is a colonized version imported and forced upon your ancestors, enslaved and tortured like animals with a violence unprecedented carried upon you and your fore fathers yet you still defend them is the real insult upon injury…

You are really “ kursed “ and you don’t know it…


The two most violent religions the world has ever known remain Islam and Christianity

Are you saying that your Orunmila was not involved in the wars like the Owu War or the Osogbo war or the Ibadan-ijebu wars? Oya lie here.

And did your Orunmila people not colonise other people like the illorins and Binis?

And it is fallacious and ridiculous to say that I chose a clean foreign religion over a dirty local indigenous and naturally repulsive one that involves witchcraft and vodoo which was given to us freely without slavery.

So, stop deflecting, your Orunmila also did violence

People like you don't think deeply before commenting!
I said atheists are confused set of people because it's illogical to say you don't believe in God who is a spirit yet turn around to say you believe in spirits!😟

goslowgoslow:
While atheist don't believe in God they still have believe is some spiritual things or being.

MaxInDHouse:
People like you don't think deeply before commenting!
I said atheists are confused set of people because it's illogical to say you don't believe in God who is a spirit yet turn around to say you believe in spirits!😟

You can see that your comment is gibberish and you don't think either. Is God the only spirit being?