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Kobojunkie:
. No amount of whining to me will change the facts.😒😒😒

I am hoping you will drop the contract children jar with parents for compulsory upkeep and care.

If you can't show me one, then I think same applies to children and their aged parents.

It's a matter of convenience, altruism, social construct and assistance to vulnerable persons.

amoco:
➜I am hoping you will drop the contract children jar with parents for compulsory upkeep and care. If you can't show me one, then I think same applies to children and their aged parents. It's a matter of convenience, altruism, social construct and assistance to vulnerable persons.

E be like say you dey struggle with simple comprehension. 😒

Kobojunkie:
E be like say you dey struggle with simple comprehension. 😒

Circular argument. You say no contract and yet adds "manipulation". What is the basis for this manipulation if both are operating without valid contracts ?

amoco:
➔Circular argument. You say no contract and yet adds "manipulation". What is the basis for this manipulation if both are operating without valid contracts ?

You are not making sense. You don't need a contract to know what manipulation, bullying, or subtopics like gaslighting mean. 😒

Manipulation is the exercise of undue influence or control over others—or the skillful handling of physical objects/data—often to achieve selfish, unfair, or deceptive goals. Types include emotional, psychological, and situational manipulation, while physical manipulation involves skillful manual control. Common examples include gaslighting, guilt-tripping, and lovebombing.

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Bullying is a distinctive pattern of repeatedly and deliberately harming and humiliating others, specifically those who are smaller, weaker, younger, or in any way more vulnerable than the bully. The deliberate targeting of those of lesser power is what distinguishes bullying from garden-variety aggression.

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Gaslighting is a form of persistent psychological manipulation and emotional abuse where the abuser causes someone to question their own reality, memories, instincts, and sanity. By denying facts, shifting blame, and lying, the gaslighter breaks down the victim's confidence and self-esteem to gain control and create dependency.

The one attempting to go around in circles here is you, because you are convinced that your place in this must be right regardless of issues pointed out so far. 😒

Kobojunkie:
You are not making sense. You don't need a contract to know what manipulation, bullying, or subtopics like gaslighting mean. 😒
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The one attempting to go around in circles here is you, because you are convinced that your place in this must be right regardless of issues pointed out so far. 😒

If you don't have a contract on this, then every vulnerable person deserves to be taken care of by those they have helped if they have the capacity, children and aged parents inclusive.

amoco:
➜If you don't have a contract on this, then every vulnerable person deserves to be taken care of by those they have helped if they have the capacity, children and aged parents inclusive.

I call you to think carefully before responding, please. 😒😒

No contract means no obligation exists for the children of these vulnerable people. No obligation means the onus is on the vulnerable individuals themselves to do all that is possible to provide for themselves the care they envision they would need. 😒😒

Kobojunkie:
I call you to think carefully before responding, please. 😒😒

No contract means no obligation exists for the children of these vulnerable people. No obligation means the onus is on the vulnerable individuals themselves to do all that is possible to provide for themselves the care they envision they would need. 😒😒

You keep shooting yourself in the foot:

"No obligation means the onus is on the vulnerable individuals themselves to do all that is possible to provide for themselves the care they envision they would need"

This quote of yours above is counter-productive and dissolves all your arguments.

Children are vulnerable at young age.
Aged parents are vulnerable at older ages.
Both are vulnerable. Your point? All vulnerable people should take care of themselves? Read that again. Lol

Kobojunkie:
I call you to think carefully before responding, please. 😒😒

No contract means no obligation exists for the children of these vulnerable people. No obligation means the onus is on the vulnerable individuals themselves to do all that is possible to provide for themselves the care they envision they would need. 😒😒

I pray you get a good spouse and good children who will be responsible to take care of you at your old age. But I also see you are okay with being dumped at old people's home at your old age. If that is what you wish yourself, that's fine.

Which kain sacrifice be dat? What would you tell baba God about the eggs He gave you to produce and live a responsible life?

Sonnobax15:

This life is one funny place I swear.

Same thing happened to my dad,who trained his immediate younger brother through the university, thinking he'd do the same for us when we finally grow up. Unfortunately,the werey of my uncle graduated,got a government job and the only thing he could do was to employ my elder bro into this poultry farm

Bad investment.

THERE IS A GOD IN HEAVEN, WHO WILL NOT FORGET HER LABOUR OF LOVE.

kpankpangolo:
We should stop the idea of birthing so our offspring take care of us in old age. Some children are worse than enemies. It is not a guarantee that they will acknowledge you talk more of cushioning your later years.

The woman is old. Her siblings are obviously old. The only way they can help her is to put her in a retirement home. They are busy playing with their grandchildren.

People will chose security over insecurity.

Nigeria state is not well structured like western world where the government could take up respond of paying for your care need cost if your pension or house is not enough to cover the cost.

Sonnobax15:

This life is one funny place I swear.

Same thing happened to my dad,who trained his immediate younger brother through the university, thinking he'd do the same for us when we finally grow up. Unfortunately,the werey of my uncle graduated,got a government job and the only thing he could do was to employ my elder bro into this poultry farm

Your uncle tried nah. I have a friend whose dad trained his uncle from primary to the university outside Nigeria with cocoa proceed in ekiti. This man had promised heaven and earth that he'd reciprocate by training one of the man's children.

The man came home to marry and went back. By the time he began raising children, the idea of reciprocation faded away. This my friend really suffered because his dad later died. He stepped on charm on his farmland and never recovered. As God would have it, his younger brother first travelled to the UK to study. I took my friend with me to the usa years later. My friend didn't inform his uncle that he was in the US but they got to know. The man now started begging, that it wasn't easy for him to help, that he should forgive him. My friend refused to honour their invitation to their place in Newark. Somehow they found a means of locating him.

My friend is a green card holder today. He had a big mansion in ketu, family is doing very well. Life has taught people a lesson.

kpankpangolo:
We should stop the idea of birthing so our offspring take care of us in old age. Some children are worse than enemies. It is not a guarantee that they will acknowledge you talk more of cushioning your later years.

The woman is old. Her siblings are obviously old. The only way they can help her is to put her in a retirement home. They are busy playing with their grandchildren.

It's the African way.

The so-called modern world has rendered that obsolete...

We're different from ya regular animal. So we need to act like it.

Bottom line..

Never do anything to please anyone

Sonnobax15:

This life is one funny place I swear.

Same thing happened to my dad,who trained his immediate younger brother through the university, thinking he'd do the same for us when we finally grow up. Unfortunately,the werey of my uncle graduated,got a government job and the only thing he could do was to employ my elder bro into this poultry farm

Lols.

Surprising thing is this ya story repeated in our family. My own old man did for more than one person but regretted it in his old age.

That's why it's best to always make sure you put ya immediate family first, anything una chop remain, that's where anyone else fit chop.

Invest in yasef and ya children first.

SMH

WatchYourSix:
Shey na another person pikin go come love and care for you at old age?? I know there are no guarantees in life… but if children are are alive, they should be empathy driven towards their own immediate flesh and blood…… yall just like sounding politically correct….

It's the foreigner mindset. And it has never done Africans well.

Granted, there are customs that should be improved on but even in the animal kingdom, there exists animal families caring for their old and wounded.

The Caucasian has infected us badly with their alien ways.

In this life, I have learnt from experiences and observations that there are no GUARANTEES anywhere.

Because you have a good heart doesn't mean others around you or your encounters with people will reflect the goodness in you or the ones you showed people.

Be good to all and also be PREPARED for anything and when it comes, DEAL with it.

No complaints.

Ada is always a working horse!

amoco:
✓ I pray you get a good spouse and good children who will be responsible to take care of you at your old age. But I also see you are okay with being dumped at old people's home at your old age. If that is what you wish yourself, that's fine.

I hope in turn that life ensures to put you through the lessons necessary for helping you reality truth from your many delusions. 🥱🥱

amoco:
✓ You keep shooting yourself in the foot:
"No obligation means the onus is on the vulnerable individuals themselves to do all that is possible to provide for themselves the care they envision they would need"
This quote of yours above is counter-productive and dissolves all your arguments.
Children are vulnerable at young age.
Aged parents are vulnerable at older ages.
Both are vulnerable. Your point? All vulnerable people should take care of themselves? Read that again. Lol

Children here are dependents, not vulnerables. The term vulnerable is typically applied to adults who are sick or elderly. It is for this reason that I, in my response, specifically used the term children and vulnerable together in the sentence to show the separation between the two. 🥱🥱

An Mgboto who wasted her youthful age in Oringo and even confessed to it in the video. Bloggers just dey twist am.

Another post appealing to men to marry devus.

amoco:
Bully... manipulate... entitled....all three words are wrong to be applied to those who supported one when one needed help. It's a dangerous trend that could turn the tables and make some adults re-think support for youngsters. Many young people already feel some adults are not providing them the required help or support or platform to succeed. It could be worse if most people think helping their aged parents or relatives are a big unwarranted burden.

One more thing to add to your post. Aside those words, it shows the person lacks empathy and was not raised well. Family is everything and more. Anyone who tries to convince us otherwise lacks those foundation. Be it Asia, Africa, Antarctica or Europe or even New Zealand, family is a big deal and it is the foundation of the ecosystem. Those who lack love can't give it back. It is not a pay me back system, it is HUMAN.

Africans do not believe in individualism. It is

Kobojunkie:
Children here are dependents, not vulnerables. The term vulnerable is typically applied to adults who are sick or elderly. It is for this reason that I, in my response, specifically used the term children and vulnerable together in the sentence to show the separation between the two. 🥱🥱

Dependent: relying on another for support

Vulnerable: capable of being physically or emotionally wounded; open to attack or damage

Those 2 words are not exclusive to children. Your argument is not strong.

Go to tiktok and type ADAURE,you’ll hear the true story of this Owerri woman and what she did in her youthful years.her name was used in a track called “adaure”.I can’t remember the original musician that did that album but it was remixed by “sunny bobo”..she chop life no be small.

Kobojunkie:
I hope in turn that life ensures to put you through the lessons necessary for helping you reality truth from your many delusions. 🥱🥱

By the special grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, I am doing my best to train my children well and also save for my old age. I do hope my children will take care of me in our family home using the funds I will save. I also pray they do well and raise responsible and godly families and then the cycle continues.

If you wish to be dumped in a care home by your family at your old age, that is your tea of cup. I pray God Almighty do your bid.

SixSeven:
One more thing to add to your post. Aside those words, it shows the person lacks empathy and was not raised well. Family is everything and more. Anyone who tries to convince us otherwise lacks those foundation. Be it Asia, Africa, Antarctica or Europe or even New Zealand, family is a big deal and it is the foundation of the ecosystem. Those who lack love can't give it back. It is not a pay me back system, it is HUMAN.

Africans do not believe in individualism. It is

Thank you so much for this.
Family is everything, whether at infancy, mid life or as aged adults. We take care of our own.

Lovelink1991:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyZH0gooL_s

An old woman who didn't marry because of her siblings and family painfully explain how she sacrifice her youthful age to take care of siblings and family and they abandoned her


Watch her explain her pains

It's lazy, stupid and ignorant to develop anyone except your child not even your spouse better than yourself. I mean anyone except your child. Expecting someone to come back and marry you because you sent them to school or whatever when you're stupid enough to not enter class yourself and study hard with your money is the greatest level of foolishness I won't understand. God will not deal with the person for you because you yourself will be dealt with by God for being an idiot.

Kobojunkie:
You say all this while conveniently ignoring the reality of many out there who had so many children, yet left alone in their old age, abi? 😒😒

Biased, you realize there is multitude of people out there actually enjoying the "fruit" of their labor, who were not abandoned. You enjoy negativity like it pays your bills. Try some form of optimism for once . Ignore evil and shine your light on Good and you'll see it .

WantsandMore:
Biased, you realize there is multitude of people out there actually enjoying the "fruit" of their labor, who were not abandoned. You enjoy negativity like it pays your bills. Try some form of optimism for once . Ignore evil and shine your light on Good and you'll see it .

Typical African man!🥱🥱

Even though you clearly admit it is a real problem, without proper research, you choose to comfort yourself in believing it is too small for you to concern yourself with. Why am I not surprised? 🥱🥱