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Beautifulday:
If Obi win, is it not still Southern presidency? Or is Obi now a northern?

Chidibe212:
I can bet you, that "IF" can NEVER work against this Tinubu, talkless him being an incumbent President

franchasng:
Every well meaning Igbo must find ways to reach out to Obi and tell him this bitter truth.


Only Northern Nigeria have the fanatical population to defend their votes from Tinubu's rigging mercenaries.


Obi you will win at the polls, but INEC won't declare you and we Igbos that are enlightened, educated, fully engaged cannot defend your mandate after election as it happened in 2023.


Only the North can stand against Tinubu's rigging plans.


Work with Atiku and Kwankwaso

Beautifulday:
Ok, when Obi wins, will it be a North presidency?

Chidibe212:
It obviously won't be. And if you want to rely on power rotation, check the stats on my post. In 2027, it will be 14 years of Southern Rule against 10 of the North.

My point basically is that, a southern opposition can NEVER win against this NOW TINUBU and I have stated the reason in my post.

Even Amaechi that followed in forming APC is saying same

Beautifulday:
Your reason is just your opinion. You are not God. If men followed other people's reasons, they would have dared nothing. And we would still be in the stone age.

If you can't do it doesn't mean your neighbour can't.

For a thousand reason why you can't. The man you can needs only one reason to dare.

Chidibe212:
Both your opinion and reason is filled with emotions the moment you mentioned God. If you put God in this, then we should be getting it right from Obasanjo since civil rule. This is Nigeria, God doesn't fight our fights, We fight it OURSELVES through God and we can Never WIN WITHOUT STRATEGY

Tinubu used Same strategy and won, Obi can use same strategy and will definitely win.

Chidibe212:
I am from umuokpu Awka, Onitsha is just 45mins or less drive from my father's home. Literally, I am from same state as Peter Obi. You can call him my brother if you wish. I campaigned for Obi both offline and online, follow my threads on Nairaland as well. I am full blooded Obidient.

Peter Obi sheath your sword!!! YOU a Southerner can not collect power from a Southerner in TODAY'S NIGERIA, coupled with rugged Tinubu being the President.

Peter Obi do you think Tinubu can not contest for President in 2015 when a southerner was in power? But he went through a Northerner to get it in 2023 even with the votes was ALMOST against him because of Atiku, despite not being the North's turn.

Peter Obi, it's called STRATEGY!! For Tinubu to sheath his Ambition in 2015 is Strategy. Use same strategy as well.

Peter Obi without sentiments, the North have the Numbers.

Peter Obi the North have the power to defend their votes.

Peter Obi, there's no Northerner the North knows now aside Atiku, just as the North knew only Buhari in 2015.

Peter Obi look at this stats below:

The fact is that the South has had more years at the presidency than the North (since 1999).

Obj 8
GEJ 2 + 4 =6
Tinubu 3*

Yaradua 2
Buhari 8

Total for South is 17*
Total for North is 10.

So who has had more time at the presidency between the South and the North?

Peter Obi sheath your sword and support Atiku. Please don't Vice Atiku, SUPPORT Atiku. In 2031 you can expressly be the President of Nigeria with the backing of the North for sheathing your sword now.

Peter use thesame strategy Tinubu used in 2015, aura for aura, Nigeria is still Alive till date. If the South, especially the western part accuses you of betrayal, remind them of their own betrayal in 2014/15 against a southern President.

Peter Obi and my fellow Obidients, Being Nigeria President in this now Nigeria is not about emotions.

Peter Obi, hunger, insecurity, lack of basic amenities, lack of job creation, inflation is our campaign leading to 2027.

Peter Obi, rescue Nigeria through Atiku if you mean well for Nigeria. YOU, a southern can not get power from Tinubu. There's no Northern Heavy weight in Nigeria NOW other than Atiku.

Peter Obi don't be vice to Atiku, support him, just as Tinubu did for Buhari.

Peter Obi, look at that stats above, sheath your sword and back Atiku even if you want to be fair in Rotation.

Peter Obi, pleeeeease, don't be on the ballot in 2027. It's not shame, it's Strategy.

Peter Obi, any Southerner that is telling you the Presidency it's not the birthright of the North, please show them the stats above and tell the person to be fair and show equity.

Finally, PETER OBI, YOU, A SOUTHERNER CAN NOT COLLECT POWER FROM THIS TINUBU!!!

Sheath your GROWING Popularity!!!

Ononuga didn't say anything tangible against Atiku in his last remark. He only said to Atiku "RESPECT POWER ROTATION". That is Fear and Weakness Speaking.

Thesame Tinubu, who is NOW the President of Nigeria didn't respect same in 2015.

PETER OBI SHEATH YOUR SWORD FROM 2027 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!!!

Stoop to Conquer, It is not SHAME but STRATEGY.

SixSeven:


Seems Atiku wants consensus with his northern backing

Obi wants open play

Amaechi wants open play

If we are to be honest with how we have practised democracy since 1999, it should rotate not to the SW, not to the SS but the SE. You can say all you want, that's just the truth. I would have loved stiff competition from the SE but it's obvious who has the people's currency at the moment.

Now, when you listen to arguments from Atikulates, they are saying the calculations are not correct. That Jonathan used 2 years of Yar'Adua and that rotation does not matter. They are forgetting something. After 8 years of Buhari, it's not a popular opinion in Southern Nigeria that power should return to the North now. If ADC is not careful and they make a mistake, power will remain with Tinubu and they will make a critical mistake PDP made, part of which Atiku and Amaechi were part of in 2014-15.

Atiku is still living the trauma of never winning the Presidency. Old people have the baggage of what they could not do during their youth and we have seen this with Buhari, Obasanjo and now Tinubu. Tinubu went one step further to change our national anthem to the old. Buhari entered and first thing on his mind was Dasuki. Atiku will most likely delegate the work to others and will not be hands-on like Tinubu because of his age. But someone also has to tell Atiku that the world has moved on...

They are well spent in politics of the past while these young people are not interested in these old faces. That's one message Atiku is not getting. Those who voted for him in 2019 are now 7 years older. Since that time, children who were 11 years old are now 18. Since Atiku started contesting in 1993, a child of that age is now 33. Since he was a Vice President in 2007, a child then now is 19.

Approximately 39.65% (roughly 37 million) of registered voters are between the ages of 18 and 34. In the lead-up to the 2023 elections, 84% of the 10 million newly registered voters fell into this age category. Those aged 35–49 (Middle-Aged Voters) make up roughly 35.75% of the electorate.

Read the room.

SixSeven:
You'd be surprised by how crafty they are. Don't forget what Atiku said yesterday about PDP and how they formed it. He was the VP but the real President, they deliberately chose Obasanjo who just came out of prison and had lost touch. He just confirmed what people had said all along yesterday when he said he recruited cabinet members among others. He was the de facto president who latched on to the sentiment of repaying Abiola and the country wanted a Yoruba man as compensation. That's why

1. The South West voted Falaye instead of Obasanjo

2. After the first term when Obasanjo's eyes opened, he tried to grab the SW in 2003 election and he tried to settle with Atiku. He had now become his own man. Search for Obasanjo begs Atiku in 2003.

Payback came when Atiku thought he would succeed Obasanjo and that man decided to publicly speak against him and publish books that wrote his image in red ink. Politics is a game of interests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93szyjbrFvs

He is still a selfish man and is the kind of person Tinubu fears. Why? They know themselves. Tinubu has publicly admitted that the deal with Atiku saved him from the South West tsunami in 2003. They worked together in 2011, 2015 to play and remove Jonathan respectively. I can see Atiku's perspective. He feels that only the South East and South South was what was left to be captured in the last election and the North is already in the bag for him while Obi feels that with a Northern support, he will defeat Tinubu since he is quite popular in the South. Now I will advise Atiku to do a poll and find out whether people really want him or they just want his money.

He admitted yesterday that he had made some mistakes and I hope he doesn't make the same mistake like his brother Tinubu by running for President. Tinubu has been demystified now that he is President, he could have supported Osinbajo or any other candidate that the people willingly accepted back then. Atiku should read the room and endorse someone. If Tinubu did that in 2023, that candidate would have won smoothly but the man wanted to grab it, snatch it and run away with it and he's been falling and embrassing himself ever since. Presidency is not a small job, they both need to rest. Anyhow, I love the energy of Atiku who is older than Tinubu. It makes me question things.

DatNiggaDaz:


Have you fonally assumed that PO is a Northerner. Why do you always want oir neigbours to always be the ones to bend over to satisfy someone's greed fröm the SW.

Most of you have noticed the stark reality that PO is and must be on the ballot. You jave OBJ for 8yrs, you Osinbanjo for 8yrs


Ekwueme had to bend for Obj but when the opportunity came for the SW to support our neigbours in that they are a major ethnic group also in that same South, the SW stabbed from behind.

In the North there is one major ethnic group. Im the South there are two. If one from the South has already enjoyed 8 yrs and 8 yrs of VP, tell me wha they should ever contest against another major ethnic from thesame south.

The SW could have automatically build a stong southern yooönity but the gteed Was too much to recognize any other major group from the South.

I don't pity neigbours like Umahi, uzodinma and other neigbours from the East who have failed woefully to realise that they have also an equal stake to have the right to presidency being also a major group from the South.

We saw how the SW treated our son GEJ. When it come to the South, the SW sees themselves as the only ethnic group as all others are inconsequential

Beautifulday:
I see why black people are too weak. They dare nothing. You give them one reason to stay in comfort. They will manufacture a million to chain themselves down.

SixSeven:
In the three times he appeared on the general ballot for the presidency, Atiku Abubakar received

- 2,637,848 votes (7.47%) in 2007 to finish third,

- 11,262,978 votes (41.22%) in 2019 to finish second, and

- 6,984,520 votes (29.07%) in 2023 to finish second once again.


In the first time, the candidate he contested with in 2019 (that gave Atiku his highest vote ever), tell me what was the numbers that candidate got. It's really growing

Chidibe212:
Where Buhari dey with his bloc votes couple with the South West's own?

No heavy weight political Northerner that is in the North Now Other than Atiku since the death of Buhari.

We want to save Nigeria from Tinubu and my brother Peter Obi can't take it from this Tinubu.

However, you have good points over there.

Let me ask, do you think the NORTH will rally behind Kwankwaso being deputy to Peter Obi?

Mind you, Kwankwaso's popularity is in Kano alone, following by the last 2023 election.

Show me how the NORTH voted for Atiku in 2023 after Buhari's Tenure as well.

Chidibe212:
I am from umuokpu Awka, Onitsha is just 45mins or less drive from my father's home. Literally, I am from same state as Peter Obi. You can call him my brother if you wish. I campaigned for Obi both offline and online, follow my threads on Nairaland as well. I am full blooded Obidient.

Peter Obi sheath your sword!!! YOU, a Southerner can not collect power from a Southerner in TODAY'S NIGERIA, coupled with rugged Tinubu being the President.

Peter Obi do you think Tinubu can not contest for President in 2015 when a southerner was in power? But he went through a Northerner to get it in 2023 even with the votes ALMOST against him because of Atiku, despite not being the North's turn.

Peter Obi, it's called STRATEGY!! For Tinubu to sheath his Ambition in 2015 is Strategy. Use same strategy as well.

Peter Obi without sentiments, the North have the Numbers.

Peter Obi the North have the power to defend their votes.

Peter Obi, there's no Northerner the North knows now aside Atiku, just as the North knew only Buhari in 2015.

Peter Obi look at this stats below:

The fact is that the South has had more years at the presidency than the North (since 1999).

Obj 8
GEJ 2 + 4 =6
Tinubu 3*

Yaradua 2
Buhari 8

Total for South is 17*
Total for North is 10.

So who has had more time at the presidency between the South and the North?

Peter Obi sheath your sword and support Atiku. Please don't Vice Atiku, SUPPORT Atiku. In 2031 you can expressly be the President of Nigeria with the backing of the North for sheathing your sword now.

Peter use thesame strategy Tinubu used in 2015, aura for aura, Nigeria is still Alive till date. If the South, especially the western part accuses you of betrayal, remind them of their own betrayal in 2014/15 against a southern President.

Peter Obi and my fellow Obidients, Being Nigeria President in this now Nigeria is not about emotions.

Peter Obi, hunger, insecurity, lack of basic amenities, lack of job creation, inflation is our campaign leading to 2027.

Peter Obi, rescue Nigeria through Atiku if you mean well for Nigeria. YOU, a southern can not get power from Tinubu. There's no Northern Heavy weight in Nigeria NOW other than Atiku.

Peter Obi don't be vice to Atiku, support him, just as Tinubu did for Buhari.

Peter Obi, look at that stats above, sheath your sword and back Atiku even if you want to be fair in Rotation.

Peter Obi, pleeeeease, don't be on the ballot in 2027. It's not shame, it's Strategy.

Peter Obi, any Southerner that is telling you the Presidency it's not the birthright of the North, please show them the stats above and tell the person to be fair and show equity.

Finally, PETER OBI, YOU, A SOUTHERNER CAN NOT COLLECT POWER FROM THIS TINUBU!!!

Sheath your GROWING Popularity!!!

Bayo Onanuga didn't say anything tangible against Atiku in his last remark. He only said to Atiku "RESPECT POWER ROTATION". That is Fear and Weakness Speaking.

Thesame Tinubu, who is NOW the President of Nigeria didn't respect same in 2015.

Even Rotimi Amaechi, a Southerner that followed in the formation of APC is saying a Southerner can't take power from this Tinubu.

PETER OBI SHEATH YOUR SWORD FROM 2027 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!!!


[b]Stoop to Conquer, It is not SHAME but STRATEGY.[/b

SixSeven:
In the three times he appeared on the general ballot for the presidency, Atiku Abubakar received

- 2,637,848 votes (7.47%) in 2007 to finish third,

- 11,262,978 votes (41.22%) in 2019 to finish second, and

- 6,984,520 votes (29.07%) in 2023 to finish second once again.


In the first time the candidate he contested with in 2019 (that gave Atiku his highest vote ever) went to test his popularity in 2023, tell me what was the numbers that candidate got. It's really growing

Aside Obi and Kwankwanso, no other politician has been able to prove themselves ALONE outside the establishment.

Repost👇

Obi has the brightest chance going by the last election result followed by Kwankwanso. I choose these two because they left PDP and did not have the structure of the regular party, which Atiku benefitted from using the PDP platform. You also have to look at the time they had to test themselves between the election primaries and election.

If you want to know what that means, Ribadu ran the Presidential election in 2011 under AC and failed with that party structure. Obi and Kwankwanso have been able to test their popularity as candidates outside the regular establishments and done well. Both had no Governors in their party before contesting and pulled a good number in the last election. Buhari used his CPC to bargain with AC to get the Presidential slot in APC. Buhari could say whether he used ANPP or CPC, he could gather votes. I'm not so sure Atiku can do that. He was a presidential candidate of the Action Congress in the 2007 presidential election coming in third to Umaru Yar'Adua of the PDP and Muhammadu Buhari of the ANPP. Atiku came a distant third in that election with less than 10% of the votes.


Obi and Saraki/Kwankwanso

A Saraki will be a difficult campaign for APC that has defaulted to using tribes against themselves. Saraki ticks two boxes of Yoruba/North Central who have been looking for relevance since Gowon.

Here is the stats of the declared winners since 1999. Mr Bola Ahmed tinubu was not a popular president elect

Here is the brief, factual list of Nigeria’s presidential election winners since 1999, including each winner’s name and the percentage of valid votes they received.

1999 – Olusegun Obasanjo: about 62.78% of valid votes.

2003 – Olusegun Obasanjo: about 61.94% of valid votes.

2007 – Umaru Musa Yar’Adua: about 69.60% of valid votes.

2011 – Goodluck Jonathan: about 58.87% of valid votes.

2015 – Muhammadu Buhari: about 53.96% of valid votes.

2019 – Muhammadu Buhari: about 55.60% of valid votes.

2023 – Bola Ahmed tinubu: about 36.6–37% of valid votes.


A United opposition will defeat tinubu before the election begins. With a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide margin. There is no need to argue about that.

Fact: Tinubu remains the most unpopular president to have won the Presidential elections. He is the easiest to kick out. Back then, PDP told AC, CPC and opposition parties when they were reigning that to kick us out, you need to unite as opposition. That's what they learned in 2015.

lawani:
Alhaji Shagari got a lower percentage than Tinubu in his first term yet won the second term. The percentage one person can get depends on incumbency factor and the number and weight of contestants

SixSeven:
In the three times he appeared on the general ballot for the presidency, Atiku Abubakar received

- 2,637,848 votes (7.47%) in 2007 to finish third,

- 11,262,978 votes (41.22%) in 2019 to finish second, and

- 6,984,520 votes (29.07%) in 2023 to finish second once again.


In the first time the candidate he contested with in 2019 (that gave Atiku his highest vote ever) went to test his popularity in 2023, tell me what was the numbers that candidate got. It's really growing

Aside Obi and Kwankwanso, no other politician has been able to prove themselves ALONE outside the establishment.

Repost👇

Obi has the brightest chance going by the last election result followed by Kwankwanso. I choose these two because they left PDP and did not have the structure of the regular party, which Atiku benefitted from using the PDP platform. You also have to look at the time they had to test themselves between the election primaries and election.

If you want to know what that means, Ribadu ran the Presidential election in 2011 under AC and failed with that party structure. Obi and Kwankwanso have been able to test their popularity as candidates outside the regular establishments and done well. Both had no Governors in their party before contesting and pulled a good number in the last election. Buhari used his CPC to bargain with AC to get the Presidential slot in APC. Buhari could say whether he used ANPP or CPC, he could gather votes. I'm not so sure Atiku can do that. He was a presidential candidate of the Action Congress in the 2007 presidential election coming in third to Umaru Yar'Adua of the PDP and Muhammadu Buhari of the ANPP. Atiku came a distant third in that election with less than 10% of the votes.


Obi and Saraki/Kwankwanso

A Saraki will be a difficult campaign for APC that has defaulted to using tribes against themselves. Saraki ticks two boxes of Yoruba/North Central who have been looking for relevance since Gowon.

Here is the stats of the declared winners since 1999. Mr Bola Ahmed tinubu was not a popular president elect

Here is the brief, factual list of Nigeria’s presidential election winners since 1999, including each winner’s name and the percentage of valid votes they received.

1999 – Olusegun Obasanjo: about 62.78% of valid votes.

2003 – Olusegun Obasanjo: about 61.94% of valid votes.

2007 – Umaru Musa Yar’Adua: about 69.60% of valid votes.

2011 – Goodluck Jonathan: about 58.87% of valid votes.

2015 – Muhammadu Buhari: about 53.96% of valid votes.

2019 – Muhammadu Buhari: about 55.60% of valid votes.

2023 – Bola Ahmed tinubu: about 36.6–37% of valid votes.


A United opposition will defeat tinubu before the election begins. With a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide margin. There is no need to argue about that.

Fact: Tinubu remains the most unpopular president to have won the Presidential elections. He is the easiest to kick out. Back then, PDP told AC, CPC and opposition parties when they were reigning that to kick us out, you need to unite as opposition. That's what they learned in 2015.

Svoboda:
You're comparing a shagari, a Fulani, who wasn't this unpopular, and got majority of his votes from his region, to a Tinubu from the southwest, who seems to have betrayed those who gave him majority of his votes, which was outside his region?

lawani:
I just pointed out that Tinubu's margin of victory isn't the lowest in the country's history and that the person with the lowest won his second term bid. When four strong contenders compete then nobody can win with a wide margin but someone will still win

lawani:
Alhaji Shagari got a lower percentage than Tinubu in his first term yet won the second term. The percentage one person can get depends on incumbency factor and the number and weight of contestants

SixSeven:
Which is why a divided opposition is what APC is expecting. Again, don't forget, PDP had told opposition back then the formula and the APC merger took that and used it. They won!

Tinubu is not looking for a popular vote, he is expecting to win 8 out of 10 even if the total number of registered voters in the PU was 100. A win is a win. Complain all you like about voter apathy, go to court he will tell you. Some of us saw his method in Lagos so there are no surprises here. I gave a similar story a few days ago. Agbaje did something in 2007 (with DPA) they never expected, by 2011 they made sure it didn't repeat itself. Agbaje to Lagos then is what Obi is to Nigeria now. They will do everything to paint him as an Igbo candidate and write smear campaigns against him. They are very strong on propaganda. Since then, Agbaje never redeemed his image even using PDP.