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| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Lukuluku69(m): 8:23am On Apr 16*. Modified: 9:58am On Apr 16 |
Dbegining: ![]() You beat me? Really, really? Do you want a medal? Or have you awarded one to yourself already? ![]()
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| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by DeOTR: 8:25am On Apr 16 |
Layi4real:The Quran refers to Mary, the mother of Jesus, as the "sister of Aaron" (Surah 19:28) and "daughter of Imran" (Surah 66:12). We should throw away the fact that this claim is not only wrong, but also portray Quran as a fabrication of someone who knows next to nothing after the Bible, and believe the word of lone man in a cave over the testimony of thousands of people? It doesn't work like that with Christians. The joke is on you. By biblical standards, qutham (momo) can't be a prophet and his message would have been rejected. You know why? You need a testimony of another person to authenticate someone's claims. That's why after appearing to Paul on his way to Damascus and blinding him and telling him where to go and who meet, Jesus also went ahead to give a message to another person to serve as a witness for Paul testimony. Who is witnessing for Momo? Trust me bro religion. I pity you. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by KobolanderSegun: 8:31am On Apr 16 |
Tenrack:Can you imagine? God does not have a Son. God has sons and daughters they are called Human Beings. That is why they say Children of God. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Lukuluku69(m): 8:31am On Apr 16 |
Dbegining:A back and forth with someone obviously in a Cuckoo land is not my thing, always all over the place with bogus and unfounded claims. I can detail them but it will be absolutely useless and unnecessary. In one of your bogus claims, you said the the asking Jesus to judge between him and his brother was a disciples! 😆. If we ask for scriptural evidences now, you will be typing as if an IBM Typewriter resides in you. Find below what you said about Moses and Duet. 18:18 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by DeOTR: 8:31am On Apr 16 |
Layi4real:I won't even bother to read the rest of the garbage you poured up there because the opening sentence already assumed the creator of life needed a wife to have a son. Isn't that the same reasoning of Allah being barren? He needs a wife to have a son. God created Adam from the dust and brought Eve out of Adam. Who is their mother if I should ask you? Jesus said himself that he came out of the Father which means he's made of the same essence as the Almighty, but your carnal mind is already thinking the Almighty needs to have sex to be able to have a son. Sorry mate, no Christian alive thinks God had Jesus by having a wife. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by KobolanderSegun: 8:34am On Apr 16 |
jmoore:Christianity is a religion of peace and they don't call for violence. No religion like Christianity so advanced so Scientific, so modern. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Layi4real(m): 11:14am On Apr 16 |
DeOTR:at the End Jesus have a mother i.e Mary Nd a father God while Mary is already married to Joseph. If Joseph who is the legal husband of Mary is not the father of Jisus then jisus is a bastard. God do not gave birth he rather creates just like he created Adam from dust Nd created Eve from Adam And created jesus from Mary. God has no son because God isn't a man. It still amaze me that some people can believe a man born out of woman womb just like them can be called God Nd be worship. European people have actually brainwashed u guys. But to my surprise the Christians should be smarter than Muslim normally because they are mostly exposed to western education than Muslim which I believe it should give them advantage to reason logically. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Layi4real(m): 11:16am On Apr 16 |
DeOTR:u are saying absolutely nonsense. in islam all Muslims are brothers and sisters of one another. go and check the tefsir of that verse. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Layi4real(m): 11:29am On Apr 16 |
DeOTR:Romans 1:25 “They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator…” Jesus was created just like me Nd you to these world and die. Jesus wasn't the first powerful being to exist in this world. come to Yoruba history you will hear some legend that didn't even die but turn into stone or enter the ground to show u there are powerful people everywhere yet they are not called God e.g Orunmila, Sango, Obatala. Jesus himself directs worship to God. Matthew 4:10 “Worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.” |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Layi4real(m): 11:33am On Apr 16 |
Dbegining:I have told u Yesu is transliteration name for Yeshua not Arabic. it's like for Example, before the white came to Nigeria there is nothing like Motor "Car" but if we want to call it in here in Yoruba what are we going to call it "Moto" the spelling differs but the prononciation similar. it's later that they find it a Yoruba word "Oko". Calling it Moto doesn't mean Moto is Yoruba word for Car. it's a borrowed language |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by DeOTR: 12:21am On Apr 17 |
Layi4real:Arguing scriptures with a Muslim can reduce one's IQ. Guy, is everything OK? Did you even read the verses you dropped here at all? I doubt it! You're quoting the letter of Paul to the Romans to prove Jesus is not the son of God? Seriously? The opening verses of the Romans is full of references to Jesus Christ being the son of God. How does this verse even help your case? Romans 1:9This is beginning of the chapter where the devil is tempting Jesus. Even the devil knows this fact, except Muslims. Matthew 4:6This is Jesus response to the above: Matthew 4:7It's good you even referenced sango and the likes. I'm Yoruba, and sango, ogun, oya and the likes are gods. Yes, they receive worship from people. Or what do think Orisa means in Yoruba? See this one o. Do you know the powers that ogun, sango and esu has is far more potent than the stone you worship in mecca? |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by DeOTR: 12:24am On Apr 17 |
Layi4real:So how is Mary mother of Jesus the sister of Aaron, brother? And your Quran still went ahead and mentioned that the name of this woman in question is Imran, which happened to be the name of the father of Aaron and Miriam, but you still insist it's talking about a Mary that's 1400 years younger? You need help. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by DeOTR: 12:28am On Apr 17 |
Layi4real:You can say whatever you want. It is what it is. Jesus was never born through sex. You can argue that nonsense with your Quran, because even the Quran got that fact right (a broken clock is right twice a day, ain't it?). And according to your own Quran, it was only Jesus that's sinless, did only what your Allah could do? I mean, why are we even having this conversation? |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by DeOTR: 12:31am On Apr 17 |
Lukuluku69:I don't remember any Christian claiming that verse is in reference to the Messiah. It's you Muslims that claim it's talking about Momo. You can argue that nonsense with Zakir Naik, because it's your people that are looking for Momo inside the Bible and that's one of your favorite ones. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by DeOTR: 12:32am On Apr 17 |
Layi4real:You're not paying attention. Our God is self-sufficient. He doesn't need a wife to have a Son. Please face your barren Allah. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by DeOTR: 12:36am On Apr 17 |
Dbegining:Honestly, arguing with those people can reduce your IQ drastically. Imagine someone quoting a verse in the first chapter of the Paul's letter to the Romans as a proof that Jesus is not the son of God? I mean, reference to Jesus as God's son is littered everywhere in that chapter. Truly, they don't read (same way they know nothing about their Quran) and counting on you not to check the unrelated verses they're dropping. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Lukuluku69(m): 7:32am On Apr 17 |
DeOTR:I know you lots lie a lot. Take Time out and read this very thread and see your Christian cousin opinions when Deuteronomy 18:18 was referenced. Read your cousin response >>>>>>>>>>>
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| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by monex(m): 10:37am On Apr 17 |
Zhunnurayn:i never said so. I just mentioned that, as far as I know, "prophet" does not proffer a divine status (divinity) in either Islam or Christianity. that makes your statement "Addressing Jesus as a prophet show's we acknowledge him with the highest Divine rank" false. I suspect you misunderstand the meaning of divine. Christians consider Jesus to be divine while Islam considers him a prophet. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Dbegining: 3:09pm On Apr 17 |
AntiChristian:I can't bribe you to do something your Quran has commanded you to do. You're the one that's looking for a sponsor. And I WON'T sponsor you. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by DeOTR: 4:25pm On Apr 17 |
Lukuluku69:So I was looking for where "my cousin" said Deut. 18:18 is about Jesus? There are dozens of prophets after Moses that are like him, so I don't understand how this verse or my cousin's screenshot is referencing Jesus. Let me even agree with you that this is about Jesus, how does it negates the fact that Jesus is the son of God? How does it go against this verse here: Isaiah 9:6Or this one: Isaiah 7:14Jesus said there's no other way to God than through him. He called God his father and sees himself as the only way of salvation. John 14:6 in the Gospel of JohnSo my friend, it's either you're for Jesus or against him. There's no middle ground. You can't claim to love him and follow Momo and worship blackstone in mecca. He's the way, truth and life. THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO GOD. So bros, why are you worshipping a blackstone and respecting a false version of the true Messiah, the one you call isah? |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Lukuluku69(m): 5:01pm On Apr 17 |
DeOTR:Now that you want to even agree with me that Deuteronomy 18:18 is about Jesus as your cousin claimed, my next question is this: Do you consider Jesus also a Prophet then? I know he is a son of God according to you, and also God Himself according to some other cousins of yours? He is God, he is son of God, he is the father and also the son of the father and he is also a prophet! 😁😁😁😁 I am not against Jesus of Nazareth. I am only saying he is not God, nor His son but a True Prophet of God. That is the middle ground for there is only ONE GOD as taught by Jesus himself in the following verse>>>> Mark 12:29 (KJV) And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And just so you know, there as never been another Prophet in Israel like Moses! Jehovah Himself attested to that fact! Read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deuteronomy 34:10-12 (KJV) And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face, In all the signs and the wonders, which the LORD sent him to do in the land of Egypt to Pharaoh, and to all his servants, and to all his land, And in all that mighty hand, and in all the great terror which Moses shewed in the sight of all Israel. As for the worshipping of a Blackstone you referenced, and the Kaaba in Mecca, there are references of it in the bible you have been reading all your adult life! Read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isaiah 60:7 (KJV) All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by DeOTR: 6:10pm On Apr 17 |
Lukuluku69:Brother, who is a prophet and how is it impossible for the only begotten son of God to be a prophet? Was he not sent by his father? Matthew 21:33–46 is a reference for you to see the fact that God not only sent men like us, he also sent his son when everything else failed. The verses above came directly from Jesus. Isa of Quran is not Jesus Christ. You either for Jesus by following his teachings or you're not. He didn't give you any other options and there's no a Muslim can be for Jesus because the teachings of Islam is an attack on his divinity. As for the Blackstone, it's what it is, idol worship. Nothing in the Bible talks about worshipping a stone or praying towards any alter. If you're in doubt, read this: Leviticus 26:1 "Do not make idols… and do not set up a sacred stone for yourselves to bow down to it". There's no prophet like Moses? And which book is that? Deuteronomy. Yes, the same book whose chapter 18 you're quoting. Quote my an equivalent verse from books written later. Shebi Isaiah, Elijah are a joke to you abi? |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Lukuluku69(m): 9:01pm On Apr 17 |
DeOTR:So, Jesus is also a prophet by your admission above. He is also the begotten son of God, and if he stretches the argument a bit further, he is also God Himself 😃😃😃 If only you will just calm down and reason! Duet. 18:18 says Jehovah (not Moses as thoughtlessly opined by Dbegining) that it was Moses that would raise a Prophet LIKE UNTO Moses, the same book is saying there has not been a Prophet LIKE UNTO MOSES in all of Israel! And to counter that piece of Divine information and conformation you put out Isaiah, Elijah 😆 🤣 😂. The very foundation of Israelites Laws and guidance, which the names you paraded were built on the Divine encounter of Moses, and no other Israelite has had that to date. The law, statehood, etc. was by the instrument of Moses, and the Bible was correct when it says there has never been another like Moses. I can understand the blindness of nothing recognising the fact that Ishmael and Isaac descendants are indeed brethren. Contrary to what you have been fed with, the Bible called them brethren and that is enough. The Muslims don't worship any Blackstone or the Kaaba but the Lord of the Kaaba as it was said in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isaiah 60:7 (KJV) All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory. Moses taught worship of ONE GOD, Jesus taught the Worship of ONE GOD. >>>>>>Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV) Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: Mark 12:29 (KJV) And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: From the above, the idol worshippers are those who elevated a prophet to God and worship him alongside God. Jesus/Yaushua/Yisa/Isa is a Prophet and he himself says >>>>>>>> Matthew 10:41 (KJV) He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward. We recognised Jesus of Nazareth prophethood as Muslims, as such we are partakers in the reward he said will go to such people 😀 Not accepting Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) you are losing the a Prophet reward so much the last and seal of the Prophet. 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃 |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Dbegining: 9:22pm On Apr 17 |
Lukuluku69:If you don't understand the use of quotation marks (" then I sincerely can't help you. I suggest you enrol for adult education.Cause I clearly used a quotatuon mark to write exactly what was in Deuteronomy. Moses spoke to the people, saying the LORD will raise a prophet "like unto me" I hope you know the meaning of quotation marks? Such a shame. See, you've been beaten fair and square. I had said I won't reply you any more but at this point, you're just trolling. You asked me this question 👇 Lukuluku69:And the truth is: You're only relevant enough to be beaten. You're not that consequential for me to be given an award. It's like when a father disciplines his child, he doesn't receive an award, but he knows he has done a good thing Don't mention me again. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Dbegining: 9:25pm On Apr 17 |
Lukuluku69:If you don't understand the use of quotation marks (" then I sincerely can't help you. I suggest you enrol for adult education.Cause I clearly used a quotatuon mark to write exactly what was in Deuteronomy. Moses spoke to the people, saying the LORD will raise a prophet "like unto me" I hope you know the meaning of quotation marks? Such a shame. See, you've been beaten fair and square. I had said I won't reply you any more but at this point, you're just trolling. You asked me this question 👇 Lukuluku69:And the truth is: You're only relevant enough to be beaten. You're not that consequential for me to be given an award. It's like when a father disciplines his child, he doesn't receive an award, but he knows he has done a good thing |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Lukuluku69(m): 9:26pm On Apr 17 |
Dbegining:Oh You are free to run now after you have been exposed for your LIES and as a Liar that you are. Mr. Moses said he will raise a Prophet for the Israelites "Like me" 😆 🤣 😂 😹 Run now....... As for mentions on Nairaland, 8f you don't want that, there is a BLOCK OPTION. I suggest you use it 😏 😉 😉 Run and keep 🏃♂️ |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Lukuluku69(m): 9:29pm On Apr 17 |
Dbegining:Dhuncee, why are you double posting? I can feel your fingers shaking after being exposed as a Liar! Keep 🏃♂️
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| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by monex(m): 3:03pm On Apr 18 |
Zhunnurayn:Divine status means he is of equal with God. I think you dont understand what divine status means |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by Zhunnurayn(m): 8:27pm On Apr 18 |
monex:You can't interpret divine on our behalf, we acknowledge all prophets as divine prophets. The point is simple: we hold Jesus in high esteem, place belief in him as one of the fundamentals of Islam itself, and no Muslim is a Muslim without belief in Jesus. |
| Re: Northern Islamic Cleric Places N1million Bounty On Christian Man’s Head by dofman: 3:04pm On Apr 22 |
Layi4real:Gbam ! Case closed 🤣 |
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then I sincerely can't help you. I suggest you enrol for adult education.