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Trying to save face 45% (75 votes)
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The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by Light1000(op): 10:27am On Apr 19
Pope Leo says he was not seeking to debate Donald Trump when he criticised "tyrants" for spending billions on wars in a speech earlier this week.

The pontiff said the remarks, delivered days after a high-profile spat with the US president, had been written a fortnight earlier – "well before the president ever commented on myself".

"And yet as it happens, it was looked at as if I was trying to debate, again, the president, which is not in my interest at all," he told reporters aboard a flight to Angola on Saturday.

On Monday, Trump launched a scathing attack on the first American Pope – who has been a vocal critic of the US-Israeli military operation in Iran – as "terrible for foreign policy".

The Pope, who is on a tour of Africa, said a "certain narrative that has not been accurate" had developed, citing "the political situation created" by Trump's comments.

In response to the pontiff's latest remarks, US Vice-President JD Vance, who converted to Catholicism as an adult, said he was "grateful to Pope Leo for saying this".

"While the media narrative constantly gins up conflict - and yes, real disagreements have happened and will happen - the reality is often much more complicated," Vance added.

Earlier in the week - before the Pope's speech referring to "tyrants" - Vance had urged the Vatican to "stick to matters of morality".

During the speech in Cameroon on Thursday, the Pope had criticised leaders who "turn a blind eye to the fact that billions of dollars are spent on killing and devastation, yet the resources needed for healing, education and restoration are nowhere to be found".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce84j261kj1o

Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by Mattswaggz: 10:28am On Apr 19
As him jam strong head Trump him don day calm down.....him been think say Trump send anybody before not knowing that for Trump book , "if you price you go pay" regardless of who you think you are......see how the mentality they're preaching is making Europe weaker by the day while Trump is trying to destroy that mentality in America he has been facing lots of adversaries because of how short sighted most of them are.... They don't know that Trump has foreseen the repercussion of all this madness and he is trying his best to reverse it..... regardless of whether the next president will continue where he stopped or reverse most of his policies or not is for fate to decide but for Trump, at least he has washed his hands off any future decay of America.
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by Mattswaggz: 10:40am On Apr 19
The earlier these guys understand that all these trying to be politically correct, promoting of LGBTQ, being soft on extremists within their territories will only lead to internal destruction....the better it will be for them and that's exactly what Trump is working in earnest to see that it doesn't happen in America though it looks like it's almost too late.....America will need someone like him to continue after his tenure for his dreams to manifest but the big question is if there is anyone like that and if he/she will be the one replacing Trump.
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by 89green: 10:42am On Apr 19
It's a pity that your headline doesn’t match the news, you guys just manipulate the media thinking every reader is very st×pid , the Pope has said he won't stop speaking out for the oppressed

Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by 89green: 10:43am On Apr 19
Mattswaggz:
The earlier these guys understand that all these trying to be politically correct, promoting of LGBTQ, being soft on extremists within their territories will only lead to internal destruction....the better it will be for them and that's exactly what Trump is working in earnest to see that it doesn't happen in America though it looks like it's almost too late.....America will need someone like him to continue after his tenure for his dreams to manifest but the big question is if there is anyone like that and if he/she will be the one replacing Trump.
You mean Venezuelan trump 🤣 or the epstein trump or the greenland one
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by Light1000(op): 10:44am On Apr 19
89green:
It's a pity that your headline doesn’t match the news, you guys just manipulate the media thinking every reader is very st×pid , the Pope has said he won't stop speaking out for the oppressed
Did you read the news at all? There is a link there with a videos as well so what are you talking about?.
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by Mattswaggz: 10:49am On Apr 19
89green:
You mean Venezuelan trump 🤣 or the epstein trump or the greenland one
The pro American one......he has always been like that....other versions of him like the one's you're creating is your problem.
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by richiemcgold: 11:44am On Apr 19

"The pontiff said the remarks, delivered days after a high-profile spat with the US president, had been written a fortnight earlier – "well before the president ever commented on myself"."



If the bolded quote above is true, then DT needs to apologize. He should learn a lesson from Nebuchadnezzar.
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by Gotocourt: 11:44am On Apr 19
Better visit Emperor cheesy
The world is fire for fire, peace out grin
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by SixSeven: 11:45am On Apr 19
There was once a speech.... that was in this movie

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7591851775607442708


DemoCRAZY

Tupac Talks Donald Trump & Greed in America in 1992 Interview | MTV News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL-ZoNhUFmc
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by kufre2010(m): 11:46am On Apr 19
Why was the first Black Ship that arrive Africa named Jesus?

Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by lezz(m):
This is the most emotional and politically charged pope in history who has no clue about geopolitics and religious leadership.

A pope so naive that has drawn the church against the most powerful country on earth with careless and unnecessary utterances.
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by Mattswaggz: 11:48am On Apr 19
Rossty:
Stop talking from you ass.... Use that fat in your skull for once
If you have anything to say...say it and stop acting like some tout.....how is attacking me with vile words supposed to make you right?. undecided .
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by SixSeven: 11:48am On Apr 19
89green:
It's a pity that your headline doesn’t match the news, you guys just manipulate the media thinking every reader is very st×pid , the Pope has said he won't stop speaking out for the oppressed
I may blame the mods because I have seen things like this where the mod wants a headline and just inserts a link but the body does not make sense. Look at the BBC link, it matches the headline. Sometimes, the title for the FP is a little different than the person who started the topic. The day I called it out, the mod replied me in a way that I only said this is Seun's headache, not mine. undecided
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by babajero(m): 11:49am On Apr 19
Light1000:
Pope Leo says he was not seeking to debate Donald Trump when he criticised "tyrants" for spending billions on wars in a speech earlier this week.

The pontiff said the remarks, delivered days after a high-profile spat with the US president, had been written a fortnight earlier – "well before the president ever commented on myself".

"And yet as it happens, it was looked at as if I was trying to debate, again, the president, which is not in my interest at all," he told reporters aboard a flight to Angola on Saturday.

On Monday, Trump launched a scathing attack on the first American Pope – who has been a vocal critic of the US-Israeli military operation in Iran – as "terrible for foreign policy".

The Pope, who is on a tour of Africa, said a "certain narrative that has not been accurate" had developed, citing "the political situation created" by Trump's comments.

In response to the pontiff's latest remarks, US Vice-President JD Vance, who converted to Catholicism as an adult, said he was "grateful to Pope Leo for saying this".

"While the media narrative constantly gins up conflict - and yes, real disagreements have happened and will happen - the reality is often much more complicated," Vance added.

Earlier in the week - before the Pope's speech referring to "tyrants" - Vance had urged the Vatican to "stick to matters of morality".

During the speech in Cameroon on Thursday, the Pope had criticised leaders who "turn a blind eye to the fact that billions of dollars are spent on killing and devastation, yet the resources needed for healing, education and restoration are nowhere to be found".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce84j261kj1o
Muslims trying very hard to incite christians against Trump, but it won't happen.
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by Majdddd: 11:49am On Apr 19
😂 the problem is that we don't know the meaning war your family die like this u can't stop you will continue running no good Christian support war let talk true even if you kill them they continue with their preaching
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by Snakedoctor1: 11:50am On Apr 19
Light1000:
Pope Leo says he was not seeking to debate Donald Trump when he criticised "tyrants" for spending billions on wars in a speech earlier this week.

The pontiff said the remarks, delivered days after a high-profile spat with the US president, had been written a fortnight earlier – "well before the president ever commented on myself".

"And yet as it happens, it was looked at as if I was trying to debate, again, the president, which is not in my interest at all," he told reporters aboard a flight to Angola on Saturday.

On Monday, Trump launched a scathing attack on the first American Pope – who has been a vocal critic of the US-Israeli military operation in Iran – as "terrible for foreign policy".

The Pope, who is on a tour of Africa, said a "certain narrative that has not been accurate" had developed, citing "the political situation created" by Trump's comments.

In response to the pontiff's latest remarks, US Vice-President JD Vance, who converted to Catholicism as an adult, said he was "grateful to Pope Leo for saying this".

"While the media narrative constantly gins up conflict - and yes, real disagreements have happened and will happen - the reality is often much more complicated," Vance added.

Earlier in the week - before the Pope's speech referring to "tyrants" - Vance had urged the Vatican to "stick to matters of morality".

During the speech in Cameroon on Thursday, the Pope had criticised leaders who "turn a blind eye to the fact that billions of dollars are spent on killing and devastation, yet the resources needed for healing, education and restoration are nowhere to be found".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce84j261kj1o
Trump is really powerful and he know it.
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by lezz(m): 11:50am On Apr 19
richiemcgold:

"The pontiff said the remarks, delivered days after a high-profile spat with the US president, had been written a fortnight earlier – "well before the president ever commented on myself"."



If the bolded quote above is true, then DT needs to apologize. He should learn a lesson from Nebuchadnezzar.
apologise as a gullible sheep like you?
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by SixSeven: 11:51am On Apr 19
babajero:
Muslims trying very hard to incite christians against Trump, but it won't happen.
The earlier you realize you are being played, you will wake up. Did you know who a Muslims was at age 3?
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by donleo92(m): 11:51am On Apr 19
Them don they bend one by one grin

Trump no send anybody papa
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by richiemcgold: 11:54am On Apr 19
lezz:
apologise as a gullible sheep like you?
Did you read the report at all? Or comprehension is your problem?
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by Feldie: 11:55am On Apr 19
Guilty conscience is what is doing Trump. The wicked runs even at the sight of his own shadow
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by jaxxy(m): 11:55am On Apr 19
89green:
It's a pity that your headline doesn’t match the news, you guys just manipulate the media thinking every reader is very st×pid , the Pope has said he won't stop speaking out for the oppressed
the terrorist regime in Iran is the main oppressor of it own people and the middle east. undecided
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by whitebeard(m): 11:57am On Apr 19
America vs America

How empires fall
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by othermen: 11:58am On Apr 19
I am glad the Pope realizes he does not speak as a private theologian. He speaks as:
a symbol read across nations and ideologies
a figure whose words will be used, quoted, and reused by actors he does not control.

When politicians or movements appear to stand with the Pope, what often happens is:
they borrow his moral authority
they selectively align with what suits them

If the Pope is perceived rightly or wrongly as aligning too closely with one political current, He is:
Read as a participant
His words are filtered through political suspicion
Opponents of that political current begin to discount his authority entirely

And this has long-term consequences:
not just for one issue
but for the credibility of the office itself.

Trump is not an episode. Political styles reproduce themselves.

With the pope's action, there's been a global reading of the Church’s posture toward power. I am glad he is correcting the impression.
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by WorldRichest: 12:00pm On Apr 19
Yes, it is directed at my grandmother
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by whitebeard(m): 12:01pm On Apr 19
Snakedoctor1:
Trump is really powerful and he know it.
I think it best that people who know next to nothing about international relations and situations should keep quiet

Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by whitebeard(m): 12:02pm On Apr 19
kufre2010:
Why was the first Black Ship that arrive Africa named Jesus?
your point exactly is what ?
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by fineboynl(m): 12:09pm On Apr 19
if not for American presence in the middle east. Iran world have outrun the GCC

and china and Russia wouldn't intervene not even weak Europe.
Re: The 'Tyrants' Speech Was Not Aimed At Trump - Pope Leo by Passionate888: 12:13pm On Apr 19
People who supported the Pope will now say he's just watering down his speech while people who initially opposed him will say he's clarified his speech grin grin grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
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