₦airaland Forum

MaxInDHouse:
Why not answer the question i asked before asking me another question?

Do you think all those men are worshiping the same God?

paxonel:
I have been saying it, all these men are scammers who exploits ignorance to emass wealth for themselves, while the vast majority of church members go home poor.

They are not working

Basicend:
Daddy Omolehin,

You are also a father of faith. Take responsibility too sir.

You are supposed to use seasoned wisdom to gather and grow the fledgling flock at this age. Do it with gunuine humility and prayers and God may decide to help us and not by flesh.

I was under your ministeration for many years. I was under Baba Adeboye's ministration too. No man is perfect, no man at all.

I don't want to say more than that. Because the new stones are made to see the works of patriachs before them, esp those they have come across, even from the spirit.

May God have mercy everyone.

othermen:
What is the number of Christians in Nigeria?

Catholic and Anglican communions, while many others are gathered within Pentecostal bodies. This alone should caution us against seeking a single father defined by jurisdiction over all.

Baba Omolehin measures fatherhood by the breadth of authority.

Waoh, you have made my day with your write up which is devoid of insults. God bless you. You have said the bare facts, It is hard to get someone who will serve as father to all the Christians in Nigeria. Those names he mentioned are spiritual fathers to the members of their denominations and there's nothing wrong in that l.
Many times, bishop Oyedepo has spoken against a sitting Govt including in the incumbent

But his vision does not account for the limits within which all spiritual authority must operate.

No man becomes a father to those who do not receive him.

To ask for a father over all is to overlook this necessary condition of consent and spiritual kinship.

Fatherhood is not diminished by its limits; it is defined by them.

Are we to pretend that the field of what constitutes the church in Nigeria is composed only of the faithful?

There are also those whose lives and teachings Christ tells us to contest.

It would therefore be neither possible nor prudent to speak of one father over all, as though all stood in the same relation of trust and truth.


Then Baba Omolehin also charges them with rivalry.

The building of auditoriums or the acquisition of private jets.

Baba Omolehin read these things as ambition.

But Baba Omolehin, they also could be understood as preparation: a readiness to gather, to move, to extend the reach of ministry?

Ultimately, it is the observer who supplies its meaning, and in this, it is you, Baba, who has inferred rivalry.

The claim that others will bow, that also need not be received in the narrow sense of competition.

Why do you not see an expectation of eventual recognition, however imperfectly expressed?

To fix upon the harshest reading is to close off other, more charitable possibilities.


I love Apostle Paul's letter to the churches. They were critical letters.

There is value in voices that call the Church to reflection, even when they unsettle.

In this, Baba Omolehin performs something akin to the work of the apostles, who wrote not always to comfort, but to correct.

But Paul did not demand of the Church in Corinth or of Rome, what their present structure cannot sustain, or reduced their complex realities to a single motive.

Such a task requires a careful hand. For correction, if it is to build rather than diminish, it must be guided by charity, proportion, and truth.

May the love of Christ remain with His Church, and guide all who speak concerning it.

DeepSight:
+
Most of them especially Oyedepo worship money and power.

MaxInDHouse:
Are they all worshipers of the same God?🤔

manuelkel:
Honestly, I'm very surprised to see someone actually speaking out on this. I have maintained this idea but when I tell people they think I'm a fool. Christianity has no unification in denomination. The denominational leaders are the ones benefiting while the congregation remain caged by faith.

zegxy:
Liar. Did you know the history of Oyedepo, how he started from the scratch ?
You better be careful of what you say against God's anointed so that you don't lay a curse upon yourself and your generation
If you are a good student of the bible, you should know what happened to Korah and others that rebelled against Moses
A word is enough for the wise

zegxy:
Liar. Did you know the history of Oyedepo, how he started from the scratch ?
You better be careful of what you say against God's anointed so that you don't lay a curse upon yourself and your generation
If you are a good student of the bible, you should know what happened against Korah and others that rebelled against Moses
A word is enough for the wise

sleeknaija:
What this pastor said is absolutely true but some people will still criticize him for saying the truth.

Everybody na hustler looking for what to eat .

AntiChristian:
God of Adeboye!
God of Babalola!
God of Orimolade!
God of Chosen!
Hail Mary!

Everyone with their own God!

manuelkel:
Honestly, I'm very surprised to see someone actually speaking out on this. I have maintained this idea but when I tell people they think I'm a fool. Christianity has no unification in denomination. The denominational leaders are the ones benefiting while the congregation remain caged by faith.

DeepSight:
+Most of them especially Oyedepo worship money and power.

Lukuluku69:
God is the Creator of ALL metaphorically He is FATHER to ALL. But "Fathehood in the sense of the animal conception is not good thinking and subject to misinterpretation from mortals.

God "begat" som other people in your Bible too.

As for those who calll their Leaders with special names and those who call their Pastors " Father" they fo against the very teaching of Jesus when he said >>>>>>>>> Matthew 23:9, "And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven," is a teaching where Jesus warns against hypocritical

Spend more of your time to correct this amongst your brethren.

Nnamdipapa:
They are not fathers to anyone but simply denominational pastors. They have done lots of damages to Nigerians and Africans that wiill take more than 100years yo recover.

paxonel:
I have been saying it, all these men are scammers who exploits ignorance to emass wealth for themselves, while the vast majority of church members go home poor.

They are not working

dappydozzy:
Here we go again, so various denominations worship different Gods. God is mono, not Poly.
Ignorance really affects us when it comes to religion. Religion is a creation of man. Many dont even know the clear difference between creed, doctrine and belief. It is not being a Pentecostal, Baptist, Methodist , Jehovah Witness ,Redeem, that guarantees you heaven, it is your way of life and accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour.
On the day of judgement, your thoughts,and actions in the present plane will be judged.

zegxy:
That's your own mentality.
Have you read the biography of Pastor Adeboye ?
He was a lecturer, had a doctorate degree in applied mathematics. Infact when he quit academic to heed the calling of God, he abandoned a well furnished three bedroom flat for a one-bedroom apartment in Mushin. He wasn't a jobless man neither was he hungry when he heeded the call of God.

Go and read the biography of Bishop Oyedepo too.
Did you know that Dr Olukoya was a first class student? What about Pastor Dr and Dr Mrs Paul Enenche ? They were both medical doctors before they started the Dunamis ministry.

Pls I want you to do away with your mentality that all men of God are hingry and looking for what to eat as the reason behind them establishing their ministries

DeOTR:
Don't worry about us, we'll continue to expose the so-called men of God playing god to their congregations, but I want you to know that Allah is not a Father in any sense, not even remotely metaphorically. You can not believe that and be Muslim. You're committing shirk right now and Allah is not happy with you for calling him a father.

metop:
Sometimes, external forces won't have a successful attack if the internal bond is not broken. Baba Omolehin's too much talks spoil his reputation as an elderly person. All the people he mentioned, are they not submissive to the President of CAN? What is the role of the President of CAN if not to represent us? If he has issues with the President of CAN or the VAN herself, as an elder, he should find a means of amendment. Thank God he's also a father in his own right - denomination. Enough of his criticism and talking down on other Christians.

Lukuluku69:
But Christ says >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Matthew 23:9, "And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven," is a teaching where Jesus warns against hypocritical, prideful, or absolute spiritual authority. It emphasizes that God is the ultimate source of all fatherhood and authority.

bixton:
CAN is no different from the Saducces and Pharisees in the old Jewish system. They are not a unifying body of Truth in the body of Christ.
You can't have your brothers bleeding in the North and Middle belt and you're not bothered like the insensitive government.

MaxInDHouse:
Well Jesus said "by their fruits you will know" Matthew 7:16-18

Under Satan's kingdom there are many demons each with it's specialization as in what each demon treasure mostly.

*Worshipers of a sadist spirit their mode of dressing exposes them and whoever fail to agree with their pastors must not just die off but after death go into everlasting torment.

*Worshipers to the spirit of dominance so their members are always into politics seeking to take over power in all places.

*Worshipers of the spirit of vengeance so they always wish evil things happen to whoever cross their path.

*Worshipers of the spirit of the highest spiritual power so worshipers always seek powers to conquer witches.

They are countless but all of them are claiming "CHRISTIANS"

thesolutions:
Denominational fathers are still fathers. There is a unifying body known as Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN). They have made statements just like our legislators are making statements regarding the security situation in the country. But their statements can be bought just like those of the politicians can be bought too.

Is is statements that solves security challenges? But if a respected father, be it denominational father or any religious father, makes statements, the state forces will act on those statements to show him they are on top of the matter.

But when respect for these fathers have gone to the dogs, the best they can do is give examples of countries that are getting it right so as not to step on toes of vindictive government and self centred citizens

dappydozzy:
But heading a large denominations brings more benefits than what you just lined up here.
Then are the men of God you lined up here, the only men of God in Nigeria.
The other majority will determine the impression about Christianity in Nigeria. The Prosperity preachers.

zegxy:
Most of these men of God, never instructed their followers to call them daddy GO or father but it's the members out of the respect they have for them call them such

zegxy:
But the people who attends the churches of these men were not forced to and those given their offerings and tithes in these churches weren't hypnotised or compelled to do so. They were merely convinced.
The simple question I want to ask you his, Do you think it's possible for an individual to be a father to all the Christian denominations we have in Nigeria ?

zegxy:
That's your own mentality.
Have you read the biography of Pastor Adeboye ?
He was a lecturer, had a doctorate degree in applied mathematics. Infact when he quit academic to heed the calling of God, he abandoned a well furnished three bedroom flat for a one-bedroom apartment in Mushin. He wasn't a jobless man neither was he hungry when he heeded the call of God.

Go and read the biography of Bishop Oyedepo too.
Did you know that Dr Olukoya was a first class student? What about Pastor Dr and Dr Mrs Paul Enenche ? They were both medical doctors before they started the Dunamis ministry.

Pls I want you to do away with your mentality that all men of God are hingry and looking for what to eat as the reason behind them establishing their ministries