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| Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by BlackfireX(op): 10:32am On Apr 20 |
Bismil-Aabi wal-Ibni war-Ruuhil-Qudus Good day everyone Seekers, fanatics, liberals, open minded, In today's lecture I will be talking about HIJRA and I will split it into 3 parts with questions to your soul's and a reminder to your subconscious mind I will make it short , simple, summarised. PART 1 WHAT IS HIJRA? HIJRA is a syriac aramaic word used by Christains in Syria and part of Arabia , which was later arabanised... the word H-J-R is the root word that means moving from point A to point B for greener pastures, exposures and so on Examples When an igbo man leaves Anambra state to Lagos state that is HIJRA When a child leaves Nigeria for Germany or Russia for scholarship Education that is HIJRA. WHEN you from Akwa ibom go to Lagos to buy goods that is Hijra When an igbo man goes to China, Singapore to goods that is Hijra When the Europeans came to Africa that is hijra When you go for a wedding in another state that is HIJRA. When you as a Sokoto lady marries an EDO man and you travel down south to be with your husband that is hijra Are you getting the point? When you leave your parents house in kano and travel to onitsha to start a new life that is hijra When our youth Corp members are posted from there state to another state that is hijra When NNAMDI KANU was moved from Kuje prison in Abuja to Sokoto prison that is hijra A man who goes on this Hijra is call ALHAJI A FEMALE who goes on this hijra is called ALHAJA Someone on hijra(most of the time) is a stranger where he or she is going Note :this is a word used by syriac Christain aramaic which was later arabanised which leads us to the next point |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by AntiChristian: 10:39am On Apr 20 |
You don spoil your thread with where in the Qur'an...? Where in the Qur'an and Authentic hadith..... Hijrah is also what Moses did with his people from Pharoah! |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by BlackfireX(op): 10:50am On Apr 20 |
PART 2. THE IMPORTANCE OF HIJRA IN THE MUSLIM WORLD. In the 6th century there allegedly arose a figure called Qutham in Arabia who had issues with his tribesmen on the basis of them putting 300+ idols around kabba( cube shape) Foe 13 years he disrupted there worship , they complained to Abu mutalab his uncle who is the tribes leader, when they had enough it was alleged that they chsed Muhammad and his followers away from mecca and they went to medina. Such a wonderful event that even the muslim calendar 🗓 started on that very day AH. The Hijra was so profound that it was used as record keeping. Now the muslim start using the word HIJRA to connotes there struggles from mecca to medina This now leads to the 3rd part |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by BlackfireX(op): 11:01am On Apr 20 |
PART 3. IF SUCH AN EVENT CAN BE USED TO MARK A NEW CALENDER SURELY THE QURAN MUST HAVE A SAY IN IT Because it is a book of guidance, clarity and sanction by Alalh SWT Now my dear muslim friends can you from the Al Quran kareem show me (us) from the Quran where such event of hijra by moving to mecca to medina by Qutham ( Muhammad) and his followers? I also have historical evidence to show that such mass movement that islam used to start there calendar didn't happen... but let's wait for the gate keeper muslim mullah to show up. In Zaik Naik show me one not 2 not 3...just one unequivocal unambiguous statement from the Quran that Qutham( Muhammad) and his followers moved from mecca to medina ? I will pay 2M to any account of your choice. |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by BlackfireX(op): 11:04am On Apr 20 |
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| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by BlackfireX(op): 9:19am On Apr 24 |
How long do we have to wait ? Is there no answer? What is going on? You mean you can't even defend your faith? Are you telling me that HIJRA is a lie ? Or you don't know? You mean as important as hijra was it is not in the QURAN that the muslims moved from mecca to medina? Or am I the one not seeing it? Think foe yourself I have increase the money to 2M naira In zaaik naaik voice... show me one unequivocal unambiguous statement from the Quran that there was a Hijra from mecca to medina? |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by Gabrielshow26: 3:16pm On Apr 26 |
BlackfireX:They simply can't, as the majority of their 'pillars' lack a foundation in the Quran—the supposed eternal word of Allah👀. Instead, they rely on the ascribed sayings of Muhammad. Yet, through the lens of modern archaeology🤔, the historical Muhammad and the 'Mecca' of tradition are increasingly scrutinized as anachronisms👀. It is telling that one requires the Hadith to decipher the Quran🤦🏾♂️—a book that explicitly describes itself as 'clear, simple, and a detailed explanation of all things.' The irony of needing external traditions to explain a 'complete' book is, frankly, staggering😅. |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by Antlisiam: 3:19pm On Apr 26 |
doffman dofman Expanse2020 come and defend quran |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by Gabrielshow26: 3:19pm On Apr 26 |
In addendum, any logical person would realize that such claims are completely🤧 unfounded and If the book is complete, the Hadith is redundant; if the Hadith is necessary, the book isn't complete. |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by dofman: 5:21pm On Apr 26 |
Antlisiam:🤣 Werey have you defended Christianity first ahaaa |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by Antlisiam: 6:13pm On Apr 26 |
dofman:Ni palẹ ẹ bah? |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by Expanse2020(m): 11:02pm On Apr 26 |
Antlisiam:So you guys are mumuyun like these you just bring nonsense and type and show highly zero upstairs and argue on what you don't know ... Can't you guys use good a little bit before coming here and useless yourself here .. Chaii |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by BlackfireX(op): 6:12am On Apr 27 |
Gabrielshow26:You hit the nail on the coffin I won't be suprised if they will only resort to insults and diversion tactics Shioooor |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by BlackfireX(op): 6:17am On Apr 27*. Modified: 7:31am On Apr 27 |
dofman:How are you today Can you explain to me ( us) where we were wrong? Do dawah to us No need to panic If you are considered as one of the muslim top guns , why not destroy the argument with facts instead of insults Are you scared Are you scared of the truth Where in the Al Quran kareem can we find the hijra from mecca to medina? In zaik naik voice ...show us one unequivocal unambiguous statement from the Al Quran that muslims moved from mecca to medina? Don't panic |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by Antlisiam: 10:53am On Apr 27 |
Expanse2020:dẹpẹ, leave story and answer the question |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by dofman: 2:55pm On Apr 27 |
BlackfireX:You are begging for my attention right ? 🤣🥷 Ask your fellow defeated guys here o , na only one question I will use to finish you o . If I answer you , you will also answer my question , are you ready ! . If I answer you , I will never repeat myself and you must answer my own question in return ? Are you in ? |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by dofman: 3:00pm On Apr 27 |
Antlisiam:My boy🤣 Pele , I can feel your pain |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by BlackfireX(op): 3:57pm On Apr 27 |
dofman:Please I want you to defeat me... please please 🙏 please please please biko Ejo si vous plait tibuxchi Everyone please come I have found someone who will defeat me by answering my question and asking me a question I can't answer... And he has defeated my friends here antislam Gabrielshow26 tenQ and others Now let's go Don't panic |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by Gabrielshow26: 5:28pm On Apr 27 |
BlackfireX:doffman He is delusional🥱. Even his "Father" antichristian knows his boundary. Others such as honesttalk, ohyoudidnt, abutwins, lukuluku69 and Qasim6 have all failed simple logical arguments about their faith showing gross ignorance about their own books! They often contradict Allah and his Quran. JimRohn, Honesttalk21—aitalk👀—and ohyoudidnt are the notorious ones that use AI generated scripts that often fail basic logic as well🥱. I say it categorically, none of their so called dawah guys is well equipped to tackle the overwhelming contradictions in the Quran. They have tried and they have failed. Even though I read the Quran and the hadiths along with other "necessary"🤧 Islamic books intensively as far back as 15years ago, none of them can match the residual knowledge that I have retained over the years. You will find lots of conversations with them on my previous account, Gabrielshow24, before one of them👀 gave me an unprecedented 10 year ban😅—So, ridiculous😂! It goes to show that Allah and his messenger didn't foresee👀 the "internet"🤦🏾♂️ yet they want us to believe that "Mohammed is the best example for mankind for all time"😂. Just so you know doffman, a solid proponent of the tu quoque fallacy, is part of those that are completely incoherent; which have nothing to offer but deflections. |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by TenQ: 5:59pm On Apr 27 |
dofman:Waiting!!!!!!!!! |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by Antlisiam: 6:06pm On Apr 27 |
dofman:That name befit your palẹ |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by BlackfireX(op): 7:02pm On Apr 27 |
Gabrielshow26:Patiently waiting for his defeat reply and Questions.. The thing they don't understand is we now study the Quran ( Quereyana) the hadiths ( 200 ro 400 years after supposed Qutham died) sirat ( 200 years biography after Qutham s death) imagine me telling what happened in 1726 from " dem talk say" I laugh silently at muslim here who don't think we know arabic and the source language Syriac aramaic. There is no hiding space They thought this is a joke or a fluke or flash The only weapon they have is ban... removal bit that is the sign of defeat. The silent Muslims in this forum are shocked at the incoherent of the empty scholars and Alfas here. If you can't answer simple simple question...how about when we pull the big ones... we are waiting for yasir Qadhi to destroy Islam by his upgrade |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by BlackfireX(op): 7:05pm On Apr 27 |
Antlisiam:Empty Muhammad hijab called GODLOGIC boy in a debate And he was destroyed with the Quran and Bible and every topic Alhamudul YASU AL MASSIH AL RAHMONI AL RAHIM , IBN ELAHA , H-M-D |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by BlackfireX(op): 7:12pm On Apr 27 |
dofman:Alfa Wa I am still waiting, for the defeat Consult Ai they will give you Quran 9 vs 44 ![]() You have no idea whom I am by the Al Rahim |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by Gabrielshow26: 10:16pm On Apr 27 |
BlackfireX:The irony 😂 was that the supposed PhD holder with five degrees was completely obliterated by Godlogic😂. I have come to see that truth is a principal thing whosoever that disregards truth will be disgraced. Islam disregards truth! Truth is not the absolute end goal of Islam but expansion! So any proponent of Islam can not logically defend it. |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by Qasim6(m): 7:36am On Apr 28 |
BlackfireX:. |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by Qasim6(m): 7:37am On Apr 28 |
dofman:Why are you wasting your precious time with trolls? BlackfireX and Gabrielshow26 are trolls you can not have meaningful discussion with their likes. Who in his right senses pervert the incident of Al-zutt to mean something sexual? Those slow boys even think Hadith are graded based on how embarrassing they are or not, so weak hadith are game to them. So don't waste your time with those boys, except if only just want to troll them back. |
| Re: Where In The Quran Can I Find Hijra That Talks About Moving From Mecca To Medina by Gabrielshow26: 8:18am On Apr 28 |
Qasim6:You seem not to know anything about history and its methods. Let me educate you quick. In history, if you find a rather embarrassing story then it's more likely to be True. This historical method of choosing an embarrassing story as more likely to be true is called the Criterion of Embarrassment (or criterion of authenticity). It posits that an author or tradition is unlikely to invent a story, detail, or saying that undermines their own reputation, beliefs, or cause. So, if we find in your Hadith, stories that are debilitating to your prophet then they are more likely to be True irrespective of how your scholars try to white wash them by calling them weak. This claim of yours that this Hadith is weak is rather insufficient and can't convince some of your scholars whom assert it being Sahih(authentic) and others that call it Hasan(good). You can beguile the average Muslim but you can't deceive me. Now, which is it. If I were to go by some of your notable scholars this Hadith is Sahih🤔 with some being less generous, calling it Hasan. Now that the authenticity👀 of this Hadith is no longer in question as the reader can see with his eyes that the Hadith is graded Sahih, possibly Hasan👀 by some of his scholars. I leave the reader to conclude by himself albeit from the farrago of contradictory verdicts from his own scholars. I stand with the scholars that assert it to be Sahih and using the criterion method discussed above, I am more than convinced that this story happened and whatever damage control he is trying to do is completely inconsequential and has no bearing on the discussion—which leaves no other outcome than for one to conclude that he is a troll🥱. Now as for the perversion, which he claims we have done😔. I would like to call the attention of the reader to the Arabic word(yarkabun) used for Mohammed during that night 👀. This Arabic word in the context of humans signify "sexual acts". In the context of animals yeah, we can grant it as "riding". Now, the so called camel riding salladin, in the form of Qasim6, failed to provide relevant context nor information to disprove the problem but just stated mere empty words strung together to sound intelligent. He is the real troll that has nothing tangible to say. I have had meaningful discussion with your likes that have spanned many threads. I have had even with the likes of your brothers that rely on AI, Honesttalk21 comes to mind, for their rebuttals, even at this they were completely blown away.🥱 It's not that we can't have meaningful discussions but the rather apparent fact that Qasim6 along with his brothers can't disprove them🥱. |
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He is delusional🥱. Even his "Father" antichristian knows his boundary. Others such as honesttalk, ohyoudidnt, abutwins, lukuluku69 and Qasim6 have all failed simple logical arguments about their faith showing gross ignorance about their own books! They often contradict Allah and his Quran. 