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| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by lightwind(m): 5:38pm On Apr 22 |
Starhearts:Goodluck Jonathan supporters said the same thing.😊 That ur enjoyment from ur OGA go soon cut short 😊 |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Believeintruth: 6:06pm On Apr 22 |
Layi4real:This is a democracy not a freaking monarchy. Stop twisting narratives. BAT was a disaster a lagos state governor make we talk true. |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Layi4real(m): 6:10pm On Apr 22 |
Believeintruth:if what you called democracy is what others state is operating with them we don't want democracy we want monarchy. if it going to take monarchy to make the country works then it's welcome. even if Peter Obi has house Nd company in Lagos so as Ur Atiku and other politicians. |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by tonesky(m): 6:12pm On Apr 22 |
Id**t as if he knows what planning means. Na statistics we go chop? 1 Like |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Believeintruth: 6:14pm On Apr 22 |
Layi4real:Guy what is your problem PO has a house in Onitsha that is not the issue here. You cannot win this gamenof spinning narratives BAT was a disaster as governor stop lying. 1 Like |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Layi4real(m): 6:23pm On Apr 22 |
Believeintruth:PO wasn't in top 5 of best governors during his time in office. Check any source either u use Google or AI that who is the best governor in Nigeria both 1999 Nd 2003. it will bring nobody but Tinubu. PO cannot lace Tinubu shoes ever ... PO has house in onitcha, did he live dia? didn't he have house in Lagos? did Tinubu has house in Anambra? Tell me how many Yoruba politicians or big man has properties in Anambra? |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Believeintruth: 7:46pm On Apr 22 |
Layi4real:Oga stop uttering rubbish. PO as at when he left office in 2013 he was adjusted the best outgoing governor. As of 2003 and 2007 Tinubu was.never adjudged the best governor then, Donald Duke was miles ahead of him. Abeg park well and stop lying. |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by snowball11(m): 8:55pm On Apr 22 |
Hi Layi4real:Amalaprint of looting a state dry and raising 3-dimples agbayas that are all helpless and hopeless as at what to do except "baba sope!"  1 Like |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Layi4real(m): 9:08pm On Apr 22 |
snowball11:Show me just one state that is doing better than Lagos. Lagos IGR alone surpassed all the South east |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Layi4real(m): 9:17pm On Apr 22 |
Believeintruth:will u shutup Nd stop lying. there is never a year not from any source that ever ranked PO number one best in all his years as governor. if e sure for you Google search it and screenshot then attached it. he's never ranked top 3 self highest he was ranked is btw 3-5. I can confidently tell you that throughout Tinubu 8 years no governor was ever ranked ahead of him. if e sure for you disclaimed it by attaching any evidence where any governor beat Tinubu either Duke , Amechi or oshiomole because PO can never be in this people categories. |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Scamburster(m): 9:33pm On Apr 22 |
Starhearts:Obi will be next president by next year. By special Grace of God. |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Oracleee: 9:44pm On Apr 22 |
Starhearts:Una still dey think with so much bitterness like this? What a mindset |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by sulaak(m): 10:49pm On Apr 22 |
iwaeda:The APC government has been in power for 11 years. Tinubu's government has 51 ministers and Nigeria has a vast number of Ministries, Departments, and Agencies (MDAs), with records from the Federal Civil Service Commission showing over 480 listed entities as of 2026. 1 Like |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Vision101(m): 2:08am On Apr 23 |
michoim:You didn't understand what he said. Say the truth. Lagos under Tinubu was the first state in Nigeria's history to go to the bonds market to borrow. The funds were for long term projects and they have paid of today. Repayment has been so easy. |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Vision101(m): 2:20am On Apr 23 |
shortgun:Your Peter Obi doesn't know what he's saying. You don't know what he's saying either. You don't borrow short to finance long. A lot of Nigeria's past borrowings were short that were used to finance long term projects. The projects couldn't finance the loan repayments and yearly earnings had to be used to repay thereby straining national annual budgets. FYI Lagos state under Tinubu was the first state in Nigeria's history to go to the bonds market to borrow. The investments financed the loan repayments. Tinubu is teaching you what he practiced. |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Believeintruth: 4:07am On Apr 23 |
Layi4real:See shameless liar telling me to shut up! Wonders shall never end. The problem with you is your bigotry and hatred always makes you very ignorant and you are exhibiting the ignorance in high definition. Did Duke,Amaechi and Oshiomhole leave the same time PO left office? The answer is No, even with the 3 in terms of HDI(Human development Index) Obi was far better than them. My friend you need to have small shame and Zip that mouth of yours and clip that hand of yours from typing too much lies. A simple Grok and Chat GPT will clear your doubt on HDI of these governors compared to Obi. I remember one guy did that on twitter with grok and grok told him that Obi did far better than Tinubu based on HDI and guess what, the guy was disputing it on X, people lambasted him. Bros leave hatred and bigotry |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Layi4real(m): 9:06am On Apr 23 |
Believeintruth:see this shameless person ooo, we are talking of who is overall best him dey talk of one stupid HDI. I bet it with you if e sure for u use Ur grok and AI to prove to me that there was ever a time PO was better than Tinubu. or there was ever a year out of Tinubu 8years as a governor that any governor best him. Use any source either Google AI or grok to prove me wrong Nd attached it here. |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by snowball11(m): 9:16am On Apr 23 |
Layi4real:Yet, he thinks I'm from the SE! If you must know, I'm from a state that feeds your lagos state including others with monies from the federation account monthly! Lagos state, Lagos state; I guess that's the best place on earth your eyes have seen all your life!  |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Layi4real(m): 9:19am On Apr 23 |
snowball11:Your state don feed unasef first talk less of feeding Lagos. afi cho Cho Cho. na y everybody in Ur region dey jam-packed for Lagos |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by gabbytabby: 9:42am On Apr 23 |
Multitude of reasons chief among is the corruption, leadership, dishonesty and the assasinators. iwaeda: |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by snowball11(m): 10:07am On Apr 23 |
Layi4real:The duns is still not getting it! The monies from my state is giving to your lagos in a bambiala way every month and your idiotic president takes part of the money from the toy he installs as governor of your state (that's if you are even from lagos state because majority of you from Osun, Ekiti and the rest claims lagos as your idiotic president as well that's from Osun state)! |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Layi4real(m): 10:54am On Apr 23 |
snowball11:So your state is so dumb that they are giving money out to Lagos state every month.... if Your state government have done there assignments so well the reverse would ve be the case. |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Believeintruth: 11:06am On Apr 23 |
Layi4real:Go and do a comparison between Tinubu and Obi on grok with respect to HDI. You will see rhe result. Oga have small shame and just zip it. |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Layi4real(m): 11:22am On Apr 23 |
Believeintruth:see this one. y picking HDI bcus it favour u. if u want to know who is better then u will compare there overall stat and not been picky. Even with all Ur HDI there is no clear evidence that claim OBI outperformed Tinubu in it
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| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Believeintruth: 4:37am On Apr 24 |
Layi4real:Did you see the response of ChatGPT Obi performs stronger in HDI than Tinubu. Bros go and rest you have lost this one big time. Tinubu was a disaster as Lagos state governor, most of the development you people mischievously attribute to Tinubu is done by his successors. Even ChatGPT knows you are not smart so it stated the main HDI components(Health and education) and said he did stronger than Tinubu in that aspect and we know what defines HDi is health and education. These are basic needs if Tinubu didn't perform stronger than Obi in that aspect then he performed woefully. |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Layi4real(m): 10:16am On Apr 24 |
Believeintruth:you are so dumb I swear.... AI said he is stronger only in education Nd Health but I'm overall HDI Tinubu edges him. So who is now better? if e sure for u go and ask Ur AI who is the better governor in every year from 1999 till 2007 Nd post the screenshot here if u won't be embarrassed |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Believeintruth: 5:55pm On Apr 24 |
Layi4real:It's mutual you are also dumb as well. See bro HDI is basically health care and Education nothing like overall there. You.deliberately tried to alter the search criteria for chatGPT to use, you are not as smart ad you think bro. See analysis from deepseek based on HDI metrics as at when they handed over and left office. Based on the available data, there is no direct comparison of Human Development Index (HDI) scores for Peter Obi and Bola Tinubu’s tenures as governors. However, by looking at alternative metrics like poverty, health, and fiscal management, a clear contrast emerges. 🩺 Peter Obi (Anambra, 2006–2014) Obi focused on systemic reforms and social investments, earning international recognition for human development despite accusations of neglecting "visible projects." · Social Investment: Anambra became Nigeria’s best-performing state in the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) under Obi, specifically in health and education . · Fiscal Priority: He inherited a state the UNDP had abandoned due to mismanagement but restored trust by prioritizing pension debts (paying ₦33 billion owed to retirees) over "monuments" . · The Poverty Debate: While a political rival claims poverty rose from 41.4% to 53.7% during his term, Obi's supporters argue his successor's later success (reducing poverty to 14.8%) was built on Obi's "invisible" foundational work . 📊 Bola Tinubu (Lagos, 1999–2007) Tinubu prioritized Internally Generated Revenue (IGR) and economic transformation . While this was successful, its direct translation to HDI was less dramatic. · Economic Gains: IGR jumped from ~₦14 billion to over ₦80 billion annually. · Human Development Outcome: Despite making the state richer, "Lagos’s human development story was far less inspiring," with HDI barely improving due to inequality, slums, and overstretched public services . · Legacy: Critics argue the focus on collecting revenue didn't translate into immediate gains in living standards for the average resident, creating a "revenue illusion" . ⚖️ The Verdict Based on the metrics of "available resources" vs. "HDI parameters": · Peter Obi performed better specifically on human development outcomes (health, education, poverty reduction) relative to the poor fiscal state he inherited. · Bola Tinubu excelled in economic transformation (revenue generation) , though the translation into human well-being lagged behind the fiscal growth. This is why I said you are not that clever. You tried to manipulate the outcome of the search on chatGPT by saying "who performed better individually in HDI" it doesn't work that way the correct search criteria is " who performed better in HDI parameters as at when they left office as governors" |
| Re: Tinubu Blames Poor Planning For Nigeria’s Challenges by Believeintruth: 6:04pm On Apr 24 |
Layi4real:Now look after my own feedback from chat GPT you think you are clever abi. Short answer: based on the **available comparative data (especially from Global Data Lab)**, **Peter Obi is generally assessed to have performed better than Bola Ahmed Tinubu on HDI-related indicators during their respective governorships**—but there are important caveats. --- ## What the data actually says A comparative study using subnational data (by Global Data Lab) looked at: * **Human Development Index (HDI)** * Health index * Education index * Income (GNI per capita) * Life expectancy It compared: * Anambra State under Obi (≈2007–2014) * Lagos State under Tinubu (≈1999–2007) ### Key finding * Obi’s Anambra **recorded stronger improvements across all major human development indicators**, including HDI. ([switchnigeria.com][1]) * The same analysis concluded that **Anambra outperformed Lagos in those metrics during those periods**. ([DDM News][2]) --- ## Why Obi appears stronger on HDI metrics HDI is driven by **health, education, and income outcomes**, not just infrastructure or revenue. Research findings suggest that under Obi: * Education outcomes improved significantly * Health indicators (e.g., access, outcomes) improved * Income and poverty-related indicators saw measurable gains Meanwhile, Lagos under Tinubu: * Achieved major **economic and structural reforms** (tax system, IGR growth, urban development) * But those don’t always translate immediately into **HDI gains**, especially in a large, unequal megacity --- ## Important caveats (this is where nuance matters) ### 1. Different starting points * Lagos was already **far more urbanized and complex** * Anambra had more “room to grow” in HDI metrics (catch-up effect) ### 2. Scale and population pressure * Lagos: massive population, inequality, migration pressure → harder to improve HDI averages * Anambra: smaller, more manageable system ### 3. Time periods differ * Tinubu governed earlier (1999–2007), when: * Nigeria’s data systems were weaker * Post-military transition challenges were bigger ### 4. Policy focus differences * Tinubu: **economic foundation + institutional reforms** * Obi: **fiscal prudence + social sector improvements** These are different development models. --- ## Bottom line * **On strict HDI-type indicators (health, education, income):** 👉 Obi comes out ahead in the available comparative data. * **On broader governance impact (economy, infrastructure, long-term state capacity):** 👉 Tinubu’s supporters argue Lagos’ transformation had deeper structural effects. --- ## Final takeaway If your question is narrowly about **HDI performance at the point they left office**, the evidence leans toward: > **Peter Obi performed better on human development metrics.** If you expand the question to **overall governance impact**, then it becomes much more debatable and depends on what you value (human welfare vs economic transformation). --- If you want, I can break down the actual HDI numbers year-by-year for Anambra vs Lagos so you can see the gap clearly. [1]: https://switchnigeria.com/data-shows-peter-obi-outperformed-tinubu-fashola/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Data shows Peter Obi Outperformed Tinubu & Fashola - Switchnigeria" [2]: https://diasporadigitalmedia.com/peter-obi-was-a-better-governor-than-tinubu-fashola-report/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Peter Obi was a better governor than Tinubu, Fashola — Report - DDM" |
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