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If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi - Politics (7) - Nairaland

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Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by SeverusSnape(m): 1:01pm On Apr 24
WizardOfNG:
Rubbish talk from Sanusi that shows many so-called Nigerian intellectual are nothing more than glorified bigots when the chips are down and they feel their side is losing.

They begin to bastardize their own knowledge and training to fool Nigerians they assume are illiterates.

For how ludicrously far Nigeria has fallen behind , due to decades of misrule, who is dumb enough to think subsidy removal savings is now enough to solve all of our severe problems and turn us into Singapore overnight?

Abeg is saving from subsidy removal gazillion dollars or what is Sanusi saying?

President Tinubu has assented to the 2026 Appropriation Bill with an aggregate expenditure ( capital and recurrent ) of ₦68.32 trillion. for all the affairs of governing a nation of 240 million people approx based on what we will earn cumulatively as a nation (crude sale, iGR, Tax remittance etc) to include fuel subsidy savings.

For context, South Africa, with 65.5 million people approx i.e almost a quarter of the population of Nigeria, has a 2026 - 2027 budget of 2.67 trillion rand which is around 216 trillion Naira.

Additionally, and as one definitive citation, our power distribution and generation companies insist the FG owe them 6.2 trillion Naira since 2013-2014.

GEJ and Buhari failed to pay that debt and only piled more on top of it. This is why DISCOs and GENCOs have effectively downed tool today.

Responsibly, Tinubu sanctions an audit to reconcile what is owed to them and has agreed to pay a structured 3.3 trillion Naira to get power supply back on track and boost investor confidence in our privatised power sector.

If we insist PBAT must not borrow, then let us remove even a fraction of 3.3 trillion out of our 2026 budget.

The total figure begins to dwindle , per income to outgoings ratio, before addition of so many areas needing urgent attention meaning a failed budget !!!

The advanced sale of crude Buhari and his cronies got literally many billions for, if not trillions, and left for the incoming Government of Tinubu is to be cleared by who exactly if not Tinubu?

Same PBAT has shown his accounting background diligence and dedication to debt repayment and respect for contractual obligations all Presidents before him lacked.


To be borne in mind is the fact the FG is still paying subsidy in the power sector etal and has initiated the biggest grand scale delivery of critical infrastructure Nigeria has seen since 1999.

I could go on all day and the depressing picture will be that Nigeria still has far less income than she needs to continue to secure post 2-3% annual growth she needs to attain an independent and upscalable level of socio-economic strength, greater GDP, per capita income, SME growth, greater capacity to attract FDI, diversified economy etc etc, etc.

Sanusi who is a far more knowledgeable person than me, a layman, is aware of all this and he chooses to be deceptive especially given that his kinsman Buhari has done the most damage to the socio-economic fortune of Nigeria since our current democracy began in 1999.


Yes OO we don't need to borrow at all since Sanusi announces so and the ignorance, bias and prejudice of many Nigerians allow them blindly accept his jaundiced and gaslighting manipulation.

Subsidy savings is gazillions of dollars as the likes of Sanusi want to fool ignorant Nigerians it is. Go and arrest Tinubu for hiding those savings under his mattress when he should be using it to transform Nigeria into Dubai in two months
Long epistle of balderdash and rubbish, data boy claiming economist. I don't blame you sha, you have to work for your stipend.

Thhiiefnubu remains a monumental failure drug baron.
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by demolagilbert: 1:02pm On Apr 24
Parachoko:
I never said Section 3, I said Section 2

Tinubu administration agreed to release some billions of naira to complete the project

You just want to keep on arguing blindly without. You have nothing to back up your argument, you're just busy Wailing over the Truth
na typo, ko ni meaning. Make we leave typo and focus on your attempt to give credit to Thubv for a known project that booooohari delivered....like you have given him the credit for every development in Lagos since 1999, despite that his own 8 years was just average and real transformation happened under Fash. Yet, you don't want to tie him to the Lagos-badagry expressway. He shares in the wins, but shouldn't be accountable for the flops. 21 years gone, we never near finish line o

Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by Parachoko: 1:02pm On Apr 24
obailala:
Can you point out the capital projects that have been completed with almost N89trillion in borrowings in just 3 years?
How much is it in dollars?
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by Martartins(m): 1:03pm On Apr 24
Parachoko:
Nigeria was borrowing to pay for subsidy before Asiwaju became the President

Under Jonathan, we were borrowing to pay Salaries, borrowing to pay for subsidy, Pension, and also borrowing to build projects

Under Buhari, we were borrowing to pay subsidy on fuel, and also borrowing to pay salaries, pensions and also borrowing to build projects


Under Asiwaju, we're not borrowing to pay pensions or salaries, we're not borrowing to pay for subsidy, we're only borrowing to spend on Capital Projects.

I expect Sanusi to know there's no problem borrowing to build capital projects
Ode, so where does the subsidy money to go?
To governors abi
Why is the 2023,2024, and 2025 budget not near half completion? Contractors abi

You cannot defend failure forever
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by SeverusSnape(m): 1:04pm On Apr 24
Parachoko:
Asiwaju is a Title

I can't Worship any Human Being like your people dey Worship Nnamdi Kanu.
Ashitwaju is a failed drug baron. Kiss the truth.
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by SeverusSnape(m): 1:04pm On Apr 24
Martartins:
Ode, so where does the subsidy money to go?
To governors abi
Why is the 2023,2024, and 2025 budget not near half completion? Contractors abi

You cannot defend failure forever
Parachoko is a data boy, that's his job. If he doesn't defend failure how do you expect him to eat??. Country hard, even the zombified humanoids know.
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by KosiGee(m): 1:05pm On Apr 24
COMPAQ:
It doesn't even mean we still cant borrow, but let the borrowing be tied to very specific capital projects.
They are tied to specific projects.
Where do you think the money to lure governors and senators are coming from?

Where do you think the money for City Boys Movements are coming from?
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by TechCapon(m): 1:08pm On Apr 24
Parachoko:
Nigeria was borrowing to pay for subsidy before Asiwaju became the President

Under Jonathan, we were borrowing to pay Salaries, borrowing to pay for subsidy, Pension, and also borrowing to build projects

Under Buhari, we were borrowing to pay subsidy on fuel, and also borrowing to pay salaries, pensions and also borrowing to build projects


Under Asiwaju, we're not borrowing to pay pensions or salaries, we're not borrowing to pay for subsidy, we're only borrowing to spend on Capital Projects.

I expect Sanusi to know there's no problem borrowing to build capital projects
show us the capital projects? coastal road??
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by TrainPark: 1:15pm On Apr 24
Parachoko:
Nigeria was borrowing to pay for subsidy before Asiwaju became the President

Under Jonathan, we were borrowing to pay Salaries, borrowing to pay for subsidy, Pension, and also borrowing to build projects

Under Buhari, we were borrowing to pay subsidy on fuel, and also borrowing to pay salaries, pensions and also borrowing to build projects


Under Asiwaju, we're not borrowing to pay pensions or salaries, we're not borrowing to pay for subsidy, we're only borrowing to spend on Capital Projects.

I expect Sanusi to know there's no problem borrowing to build capital projects
There is a huge problem with borrowing to build capital projects at inflated and outrageous rates.
The borrowed money is simply shared among politicians.

The main question to be answered is: How is this humongous and wasteful debt going to be paid for?

The country will forever sink into a debt trap, and then that opens Nigeria to worst external control, where private organizations start forcing government policy because we are indebted to them. This is how the IMF forces Nigeria to stop supporting social programmes like free public education and health, which are provided the world over.

How about cutting the waste in this government? How about looking inwards?

The borrower will always be a slave to the lender.

Tinubu is literally a puppet of Western governments and financial interests with this wasteful and wanton borrowing.
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by SeverusSnape(m): 1:15pm On Apr 24
demolagilbert:
na typo, ko ni meaning. Make we leave typo and focus on your attempt to give credit to Thubv for a known project that booooohari delivered....like you have given him the credit for every development in Lagos since 1999, despite that his own 8 years was just average and real transformation happened under Fash. Yet, you don't want to tie him to the Lagos-badagry expressway. He shares in the wins, but shouldn't be accountable for the flops. 21 years gone, we never near finish line o
Demola, I'm surprised parachoko didn't call you IGBO in all these arguments. Gaskiya I'm shocked. You really schooled him, you get their time sha
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by Sirianese: 1:18pm On Apr 24
iwaeda:
"If you're not paying subsidy and you've got the money, why are we still borrowing?" — Lamido Sanusi questions federal government's economic policies and borrowing plans.


He's still borrowing and he must continue to borrow, because Nigeria's funds are rushing down the gullet of the Lebanese billionaire as fast as the crude oil is pumped out of the ground
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by demolagilbert: 1:19pm On Apr 24
SeverusSnape:
Demola, I'm surprised parachoko didn't call you IGBO in all these arguments. Gaskiya I'm shocked. You really schooled him, you get their time sha
He already attempted to. Thankfully I have been around these nairaland street for a while, so that was DOA
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by DemonSlayer: 1:19pm On Apr 24
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Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by DemonSlayer: 1:20pm On Apr 24
Sirianese:
He's still borrowing and he must continue to borrow, because Nigeria's funds are rushing down the gullet of the Lebanese billionaire as fast as the crude oil is pumped out of the ground
Gullet. I haven't heard/read this word in ages. Felt good to see it again.
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by bejeria101(m): 1:20pm On Apr 24
marlow1962:
Sanusi I now believe you need glasses, obviously you are not seeing the good works of their first class graduate from Chicago, the Lagos maker, the Messiah of ebin pawa grin
The battery operated temu jagbajantis president Colossal failure and fraud grin grin grin
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by obailala(m):
Parachoko:
How much is it in dollars?
I didnt ask you about the exchange rate here, rather I asked that you simply mention the CAPITAL projects, completed or ongoing in the last 3 years, that are worth the N80 trillion borrowed so far...


The Buhari government also repeatedly justified its insane borrowings by claiming they were for capital projects. At the end, we all realised it was all a lie; rather possibly over 90% of the funds borrowed by buhari were for subsidy and salary payments and stealing.

Now Tinubu clearly isn't paying the subsidies that swept off over 90% of buhari's borrowings; nevertheless, Tinubu has borrowed more in 3 years than what Buhari borrowed in 8 years. So abeg, where are the capitial projects completed by Tinubu that can account for the N80 Trillion?

How can any normal person stand to defend this devilry?
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by saintkel(m): 1:23pm On Apr 24
Elvis2kay:
I don't understand Jagaban again oo
no o...u must understand him o....on his mandate u stand
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by SeverusSnape(m): 1:26pm On Apr 24
demolagilbert:
He already attempted to. Thankfully I have been around these nairaland street for a while, so that was DOA
Anyone that criticises their drug baron is Igbo. Even Aminda is igbo.
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by drdanny(m): 1:27pm On Apr 24
GODISGREAT123:
We are borrowing money because Tinubu is a first class graduate of accounting

You can't understand Sir
Even you cannot understand the gibberish you wrote. First Class graduate of accounting. So being first class in accounting means being a borrower rather than an astute manager of resources?
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by ottersberger(m): 1:27pm On Apr 24
honour8:
This is exactly the point. The borrowing is not tied to anything, just reckless borrowing.
Oga, no allow me and you get problem. Which one come be reckless borrowing?. The borrowing is intentional o. Tinubu is borrowing to loot with assistance from Akpabio. This is the whole idea behind his "Emi l'okan" proclamation in Abeokuta.
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by onehope: 1:28pm On Apr 24
Greatex90:
Very good questions asked about this government.
There is no justification whatsoever for borrowing.
What improvement have you seen in Nigeria as regards infrastructural development.
Security is on zero levels, No jobs,
Commodities are unpayable.
What is he borrowing for.
It's 4 years yet no constant Light.

You quit paying subsidy yet no Nigerian refinery is working.
You nothing to say about this backward APC GOVERNMENT
Please nobody should complain oh, if I hear pim! In 2015 when everybody was shouting change, nobody ever asked APC to explain the meaning of their change mantra. Let's enjoy the better party and better government peacefully and quietly together. If I hear pim!
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by Atlantis585: 1:30pm On Apr 24
Parachoko:
Nigeria was borrowing to pay for subsidy before Asiwaju became the President

Under Jonathan, we were borrowing to pay Salaries, borrowing to pay for subsidy, Pension, and also borrowing to build projects

Under Buhari, we were borrowing to pay subsidy on fuel, and also borrowing to pay salaries, pensions and also borrowing to build projects


Under Asiwaju, we're not borrowing to pay pensions or salaries, we're not borrowing to pay for subsidy, we're only borrowing to spend on Capital Projects.

I expect Sanusi to know there's no problem borrowing to build capital projects
I can’t believe the level of dementedness in some of you and the level you will go to defend the indefensible.

Spits!
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by Image123(m): 1:31pm On Apr 24
WorkTheTalk:
Your drug lord in the mud. Keep fooling around, data boy.
https://x.com/chukwe/status/1918818416317600045?t=9Cn1FGgZ6KJijLI1P5JNAw&s=19[/quote]Is this your dad? i like his glasses.
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by Reference(m): 1:34pm On Apr 24
Mr. Sanusi...only if we had functional institutions and independent arms of government. But the master strategist knew these things before hand and neutralized them all.

He knew a day of reckoning will come when the people will begin to ask serious questions because of the hardship they face.

So there is no one to ask, no one that can question this government. This is the big mistake of our time and I did warn about this many times when the cement had not hardened on this autocracy.

The only way out is to await the end of the tenure. But trust me, they have thought about that too.
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by jaxxy(m): 1:38pm On Apr 24
Parachoko:
List out the road Projects Jonathan constructed
list out the capital projects buhari constructed.
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by FatherLord: 1:41pm On Apr 24
Parachoko:
Nigeria was borrowing to pay for subsidy before Asiwaju became the President

Under Jonathan, we were borrowing to pay Salaries, borrowing to pay for subsidy, Pension, and also borrowing to build projects

Under Buhari, we were borrowing to pay subsidy on fuel, and also borrowing to pay salaries, pensions and also borrowing to build projects


Under Asiwaju, we're not borrowing to pay pensions or salaries, we're not borrowing to pay for subsidy, we're only borrowing to spend on Capital Projects.

I expect Sanusi to know there's no problem borrowing to build capital projects
If I may ask, so what are we using our revenue from oil and other sources for if you and your Tinubu still have to borrow to do capital projects ?. It is always difficult to defend wickedness .
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by Parachoko: 1:44pm On Apr 24
FatherLord:
If I may ask, so what are we using our revenue from oil and other sources for if you and your Tinubu still have to borrow to do capital projects ? .
Are state governments complaining to you that they are not getting their monthly due?

Are the Local Governments complaining to you that they are not getting their monthly due?
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by ZUBY77(m): 1:46pm On Apr 24
Gboss247:
See question!
Imagine the citizen of an import dependent nation asking where they are borrowing.
The dollars used to paid for the foreign and services you consume, do they fall from the sky?
Oh I get it now. Government is borrowing to feed me?
Can you help me tell them to stop feeding me?
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by Fuckyoumod: 1:48pm On Apr 24
olaztek:
Between tinubu and Donald trump, I no know who lie pass huh
I weak 4 your I l.Q ooh.

As serious as this matter you they bring in Trump.
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by ZUBY77(m): 1:49pm On Apr 24
Hez143:
the loan is for infrastructure nah
Which infrastructure and what's the cost?
Few months ago, Rufainwas asking Umahi the cost of 1km of coastal road and he couldn't answer.
Re: If You're Not Paying Subsidy, Why Are We Still Borrowing? - Sanusi by Mightym: 1:54pm On Apr 24
He needs to borrow o, we need the loans to continue to provide the good things you're seeing in economic transformation and infrastructural development... Abi you need glasses ni?
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