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erico2k2:
Blah blahh blahhh, I asked a simple question compared to what country and what countries of the world do you think are in its league, You think by writing 10 pages you are making sense, Im keeping my arguments V short, what countries are you now comparing Pakistan with Mr comparer/U think name callings bothers me, only ignorant people result to name calling when they run out of mare arguments to give.

Nawa o. I can see my tactics and pedagogy are obviously not working. I should have started with teaching you the use of English. I don turn English teacher now🤣 No problem bro, I’m here for you since you’re now seemingly teachable and fun.
Read what I wrote in that previous comment again, there lies the answer to the English expression that has disrupted ur cognitive functionings.
As a lower middle-income country, Pakistan is considered a “relatively” poor country i.e, it’s considered poor when compared to other countries in its league. Militarily, Pakistan should be in the class of countries like France, Italy, Turkey, Finland and etc but economically, it’s nowhere near these countries. The term “relatively” is to emphasize that while it’s considered a poor country, it is still not as poor as countries like Ghana, Togo, Mozambique, Rwanda and even Nigeria meaning that it’s relatively richer (than them). This is the same way we say while it’s richer than those African countries, it’s still a [b]relatively poor country when compared to countries in its league (militarily)[/b]
Away from that, why are you so fond of drifting away from arguments?🤣 Boy, let's leave English language and swerve back to the topic as I won’t be doing for you what your basic English Teachers have failed to do. What brought Pakistan into this discussion was the argument that being militarily developed doesn't always connote high economic advancement and citizens’ wellness and in fact, you are the first supposedly well-traveled individual that doesn't know this basic fact🤣
Pakistan smokes South Africa militarily but are they mates when it comes to economic development and classes?
I used Pakistan as another example of a poor countries (relatively poor because this same Pakistan is actually a super wealthy country when compared to many other countries) whose militaries are enviably advanced. North Korea is the biggest example here. Do you understand now or we are still going to be needing the professional support of an experienced elementary English Teacher? I mean the ones who are specially trained to cater to the needs of pupils with special needs.

erico2k2:
No sire, I do not work in a mining company, I am a fluid Engineer, so we fix any Engine that uses fluids, manly Hydraulics, so the mining industries are one of the heaviest users of hydraulics same as the oil and gas industries, anyway back to the topic
DID you manage to read about what I asked ? Because if you did, you will get a better understanding and not assume?
What do you thin are in these chips? when the world is going about chips, you think the talking computer chips? That's the ABC chips ,In Engineering the chips have gone way past PC and gamming chips, We talking EV, and Energy processors, Space craft and fighter Jets and telecommunication .these do not rely on Silicon ,they use Gallium and Germanium, Reason It has High Electron mobility and is faster in switches, so stuff like The Iron Doom of Israel will have this kind of chip, Guess who accounts for 90% of the worlds Gallium and its relative elements? CHINA
As for rare Earth minerals, I don't know what is going on with you browser but a simple google search should have told you China has the highest deposit of rare earth minerals to help here is a Link https://investingnews.com/daily/resource-investing/critical-metals-investing/rare-earth-investing/rare-earth-reserves-country/
1 China 44 million metric tones
2 Brazil 21 million metric tones
3 India 6.9 million metric tones
4 Australia 5.7 million metric tones
5 Russia 3.8
6 Vietnam 3.5
7 the USA 1.9 Million metric tones, and is only found in the California mountains.
Bross this is a field I know very well, if you calm down you will learn a great deal, don't believe the whole hype ,China is way ahead in lot of things don't play with them.
Now you are talking Nvidia chips, the best chip they have is for gaming, but you really want to compare a graphic chips to an AI powered chip that power infrared devices ie anti aircraft systems and missiles like Nimriods?or the AI chips that powers EVs and 5G?

Bro, I beg, go online, search:

1. Does China Create Nvidia level of Chips.

2. Highest chip producing nations

3. Is China behind Taiwan and South Korea in Chip making.

And post the results here

Lordly13:
Bro, I beg, go online, search:

1. Does China Create Nvidia level of Chips.

2. Highest chip producing nations

3. Is China behind Taiwan and South Korea in Chip making.

And post the results here

1 Yes they do, If you know about chips you wont even compare, do you think Nvidia can make chips for the international space station? or the Early warning systems the US army has for its defence? or chips for infra red devices ?Nvidia is for computers and graphics
2 The Highest chip producing nations are in this order
1[b] Taiwan[/b]
2 China
3 South Korea
4 the whole EU
5 the USA
3 NO, China is only Behind Taiwan in chip making, its above South Korea.
you can do your own research if you think I am talking lobish.

erico2k2:
1 Yes they do, If you know about chips you wont even compare, do you think Nvidia can make chips for the international space station? or the Early warning systems the US army has for its defence? or chips for infra red devices ?Nvidia is for computers and graphics
2 The Highest chip producing nations are in this order
1[b] Taiwan[/b]
2 China
3 South Korea
4 the whole EU
5 the USA
3 NO, China is only Behind Taiwan in chip making, its above South Korea.
you can do your own research if you think I am talking lobish.

Bro I said:

Post the screenshot of your research here

Not this bias BS.

Even President Xi plead with Trump for China to buy chips from The US.. Why would he do that if they could make Chip themselves?

If you're sure China is no.1 Post the screenshot of your research here I'm waiting.




Research part 2:
If China creates advance Chips:

1. "Why did president Xi plead with Trump last year to allow China buy chips from USA?"

2. Why do Chinese car companies majorly buy chips from Europe instead of China?


I'm waiting for the screenshot of the research

Lordly13:
Bro I said:

Post the screenshot of your research here

Not this bias BS.

Even President Xi plead with Trump for China to buy chips from The US.. Why would he do that if they could make Chip themselves?

If you're sure China is no.1 Post the screenshot of your research here I'm waiting.




Research part 2:
If China creates advance Chips:

1. "Why did president Xi plead with Trump last year to allow China buy chips from USA?"

2. Why do Chinese car companies majorly buy chips from Europe instead of China?


I'm waiting for the screenshot of the research

This is the problem with the average Nigerian, you lot refuse to learn, You are asking me to post screen shots of stuff posted by people who by the way are not even knowledgeable enough as me
I work in these field .You asked specific question and I gave you a direct answer, instead of you to respond to what I have said or add it to your knowledge and we move to other arguments you are calling it BS
I simply told you China is the second Largest Chip producer in the world after Taiwan, I m sure you never knew this. THE US is number 5 on the list after Japan.
You are asking me why Xi pleaded with Trump to buy Chips from China, how the hell am I supposed to know? was I there? these are the kinda questions my kids will ask no offence Like I was trying to say some post back, the dominance of the chips mkt btw china and the US is not its physical structure rather the software design of it
you lot keep mentioning Nvidia funny Enough I have an Nvidia shield in my room Nvidia became powerful per share price cos they are making so much profit selling gaming and PC plus graphic Chips. That does not mean they have superior chips, they do not have military grade chips or even Infrared chips and EV chips. Are you going to compare an A1 chip inside an Ipad to that inside a Hybrid Toyota?
As for your new number one Question ,I really do not know where you got this from, China actually banned the sale of Nvidia A series chips i n China here is a link https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/u-commerce-secretary-says-nvidia-104000544.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEgOVgodkjkkWTDsmvQLf1tu3EOjuFUsUZwlCkLsVvRo76CnbnO3BmKnPxjLmKALQCaisV2Js1V8fgFeZbQ28X6bc22fT7RufgC78pYQhmCjq3N_S_z9Mo5_UhtdU8MDVCj0TqWWI-jqm0pfzGbQPbHetKqMAqw6r-g03Gxchma1
This is up to date issue ie this week.SO if you thin China needs that chips you might as well post me to an up to date link
This is from LAST YEAR https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqxz29pe1v0o
PS.You keep asking about screenshots,I aint seen you post none
Another question for you, what is ur discipline, what do you major in cos I really cannot be bothered with a marketer from Opay! no offence.

erico2k2:
This is the problem with the average Nigerian, you lot refuse to learn, You are asking me to post screen shots of stuff posted by people who by the way are not even knowledgeable enough as me
I work in these field .You asked specific question and I gave you a direct answer, instead of you to respond to what I have said or add it to your knowledge and we move to other arguments you are calling it BS
I simply told you China is the second Largest Chip producer in the world after Taiwan, I m sure you never knew this. THE US is number 5 on the list after Japan.
You are asking me why Xi pleaded with Trump to buy Chips from China, how the hell am I supposed to know? was I there? these are the kinda questions my kids will ask no offence Like I was trying to say some post back, the dominance of the chips mkt btw china and the US is not its physical structure rather the software design of it
you lot keep mentioning Nvidia funny Enough I have an Nvidia shield in my room Nvidia became powerful per share price cos they are making so much profit selling gaming and PC plus graphic Chips. That does not mean they have superior chips, they do not have military grade chips or even Infrared chips and EV chips. Are you going to compare an A1 chip inside an Ipad to that inside a Hybrid Toyota?
As for your new number one Question ,I really do not know where you got this from, China actually banned the sale of Nvidia A series chips i n China here is a link https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/u-commerce-secretary-says-nvidia-104000544.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEgOVgodkjkkWTDsmvQLf1tu3EOjuFUsUZwlCkLsVvRo76CnbnO3BmKnPxjLmKALQCaisV2Js1V8fgFeZbQ28X6bc22fT7RufgC78pYQhmCjq3N_S_z9Mo5_UhtdU8MDVCj0TqWWI-jqm0pfzGbQPbHetKqMAqw6r-g03Gxchma1
This is up to date issue ie this week.SO if you thin China needs that chips you might as well post me to an up to date link
This is from LAST YEAR https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqxz29pe1v0o
PS.You keep asking about screenshots,I aint seen you post none
Another question for you, what is ur discipline, what do you major in cos I really cannot be bothered with a marketer from Opay! no offence.

You searched, you saw, you deny.

1. Why would China (the top chip producing nations according to you) Plead with USA (the top 5 chip producing Nation according to you) to allow them to buy chips from them.

You don see top 1 producer dey ever beg top 5 producers before

2. Why would Chinese Car Makers buy their chips majorly from European company and NOT FROM CHINESE CHIP COMPANIES.

Top 1 country car makers no gree buy from their own country abi

Goodbye bro, at least you see it now

erico2k2:
This is the problem with the average Nigerian, you lot refuse to learn, You are asking me to post screen shots of stuff posted by people who by the way are not even knowledgeable enough as me
I work in these field .You asked specific question and I gave you a direct answer, instead of you to respond to what I have said or add it to your knowledge and we move to other arguments you are calling it BS
I simply told you China is the second Largest Chip producer in the world after Taiwan, I m sure you never knew this. THE US is number 5 on the list after Japan.
You are asking me why Xi pleaded with Trump to buy Chips from China, how the hell am I supposed to know? was I there? these are the kinda questions my kids will ask no offence Like I was trying to say some post back, the dominance of the chips mkt btw china and the US is not its physical structure rather the software design of it
you lot keep mentioning Nvidia funny Enough I have an Nvidia shield in my room Nvidia became powerful per share price cos they are making so much profit selling gaming and PC plus graphic Chips. That does not mean they have superior chips, they do not have military grade chips or even Infrared chips and EV chips. Are you going to compare an A1 chip inside an Ipad to that inside a Hybrid Toyota?
As for your new number one Question ,I really do not know where you got this from, China actually banned the sale of Nvidia A series chips i n China here is a link https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/u-commerce-secretary-says-nvidia-104000544.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEgOVgodkjkkWTDsmvQLf1tu3EOjuFUsUZwlCkLsVvRo76CnbnO3BmKnPxjLmKALQCaisV2Js1V8fgFeZbQ28X6bc22fT7RufgC78pYQhmCjq3N_S_z9Mo5_UhtdU8MDVCj0TqWWI-jqm0pfzGbQPbHetKqMAqw6r-g03Gxchma1
This is up to date issue ie this week.SO if you thin China needs that chips you might as well post me to an up to date link
This is from LAST YEAR https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqxz29pe1v0o
PS.You keep asking about screenshots,I aint seen you post none
Another question for you, what is ur discipline, what do you major in cos I really cannot be bothered with a marketer from Opay! no offence.

I feel guilty leaving you without evidence.

1. China 2nd largest in output( but low quality chips.)


Chinese Chips can't handle cars and phones or laptops. That's why 90% of Chinese car companies buys Chips from Europe instead of China (Since USA won't sell them).

China don't produce advanced chips
.
(You can verify this with info from Chinese auto companies online) It's Not Something They Deny.

2 . Taiwan and South Korea are Miles ahead of China in creating advance Chips

3. The US is the leading Semiconductor chips producers (about 70%)

4. President Xi plead with Trump because China tech companies were facing shortages as their chips and are laggy.

Lordly13:
I feel guilty leaving you without evidence.

1. China 2nd largest in output( but low quality chips.)


Chinese Chips can't handle cars and phones or laptops. That's why 90% of Chinese car companies buys Chips from Europe instead of China (Since USA won't sell them).

China don't produce advanced chips
.
(You can verify this with info from Chinese auto companies online) It's Not Something They Deny.

2 . Taiwan and South Korea are Miles ahead of China in creating advance Chips

3. The US is the leading Semiconductor chips producers (about 70%)

4. President Xi plead with Trump because China tech companies were facing shortages as their chips and are laggy.

you are quoting from another forum, whats the difference between this forum and that forum you screenshot, why don't you at least post from a recognised Journal publication or from a news source? You are copying pages from someone else's like you who owns thier own unprofessional opinion .I was expecting to see a link of cos no links also I was expecting to see a link to where China was begging the US ofcos no link, however I did post the link you refused to read it
At this point you are now shifting the post, you asked specifically who the largest chip maker was and I gave you an answer and at least you learnt something new. Thses smart AI chips are made of tow rare eart matters, something you also learnt from me that China has the highest deposit of these rear earth minerals 90% from china, then you moved to chip manufacture.
The best AI chip from Nvidia is the H200, do you have any Idea of what it is used for?what industry? let me copy that page you are refusing to read or lack credit to upload

Lordly13:


You searched, you saw, you deny.

1. Why would China (the top chip producing nations according to you) Plead with USA (the top 5 chip producing Nation according to you) to allow them to buy chips from them.

You don see top 1 producer dey ever beg top 5 producers before

2. Why would Chinese Car Makers buy their chips majorly from European company and NOT FROM CHINESE CHIP COMPANIES.

Top 1 country car makers no gree buy from their own country abi

Goodbye bro, at least you see it now

U.S. Commerce Secretary says Nvidia still hasn't sold any H200 AI GPUs to China — Chinese government is blocking imports in an attempt to push domestic semiconductor industry
Jowi Morales
Thu, April 23, 2026 at 11:40 AM GMT+1 2 min read
Source :: https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/u-commerce-secretary-says-nvidia-104000544.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEgOVgodkjkkWTDsmvQLf1tu3EOjuFUsUZwlCkLsVvRo76CnbnO3BmKnPxjLmKALQCaisV2Js1V8fgFeZbQ28X6bc22fT7RufgC78pYQhmCjq3N_S_z9Mo5_UhtdU8MDVCj0TqWWI-jqm0pfzGbQPbHetKqMAqw6r-g03Gxchma1

Lordly13:
I feel guilty leaving you without evidence.

1. China 2nd largest in output( but low quality chips.)


Chinese Chips can't handle cars and phones or laptops. That's why 90% of Chinese car companies buys Chips from Europe instead of China (Since USA won't sell them).

China don't produce advanced chips
.
(You can verify this with info from Chinese auto companies online) It's Not Something They Deny.

2 . Taiwan and South Korea are Miles ahead of China in creating advance Chips

3. The US is the leading Semiconductor chips producers (about 70%)

4. President Xi plead with Trump because China tech companies were facing shortages as their chips and are laggy.

Take your time and read all these and see how it relates to al that you wrote there as if china was begging anybody up there

Three top Chinese AI firms have been told to reject US-origin capital without government approval. The directive reshapes how Washington money reaches Beijing's strategic technology champions.

The instructions were issued by the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) in recent weeks. Bloomberg first reported the guidance on Friday.


Beijing Cuts Off US Capital For Its AI Giants
ByteDance, TikTok's parent and China's most valuable private startup, was told to block US secondary share sales without state clearance.

The instruction carries weight given ByteDance's complex ownership structure and pool of US institutional backers. Any secondary liquidity now funnels through Beijing.

Moonshot AI, considering a Hong Kong listing, was told to refuse US capital in funding rounds and deals without approval.

The restriction complicates pre-IPO planning for a firm widely seen as China's answer to OpenAI. Any foreign allocation will likely tilt toward Middle Eastern and Hong Kong investors.

StepFun, a Tencent-backed startup focused on multimodal and generative AI, received the same guidance as Moonshot. The company is less globally known but ranks among Beijing's strategic AI champions.

Why China Is Gating Its AI Firms
The guidance follows Meta Platforms' roughly $2 billion acquisition of Singapore-based Manus, a startup with deep Chinese engineering roots.

Beijing imposed exit restrictions on the co-founders of Manus and reviewed the deal for potential technology export violations.

On Wednesday, White House science director Michael Kratsios accused Chinese entities of running industrial-scale campaigns to extract US AI models.

"Foreign entities who build on such fragile foundations should have little confidence in the integrity and reliability of the models they produce," he stated.

The Trump administration signaled new enforcement against firms using model distillation, according to reports.

The capital divide between Washington and Beijing looks set to deepen. Beijing may formalize the guidance into a published regulation over the coming weeks.

Read the Original story China Orders Three AI Giants to Reject US Investment by Lockridge Okoth at beincrypto.com



Reuters
DeepSeek unveils new AI model tailored for Huawei chips as China pushes for tech autonomy

FILE PHOTO: China's DeepSeek trained AI model on Nvidia's best chip despite US ban, official says · Reuters
Eduardo Baptista, Ethan Wang and Che Pan
Fri, April 24, 2026 at 4:11 AM GMT+1 4 min read

BEIJING, April 24 (Reuters) - DeepSeek, the Chinese startup whose low-cost AI model stunned the world last year, launched on Friday a preview of a highly awaited new model adapted for Huawei chip technology, underlining China's growing autonomy in the sector.


The Pro version of the new model outperforms other open-source models in ‌world-knowledge benchmarks, trailing only Google's closed-source Gemini-Pro-3.1, DeepSeek said.

The close collaboration with Huawei on the new model, the V4, contrasts with DeepSeek's past reliance on Nvidia's AI chips. Huawei said ‌its chips were used in some of the V4's training process.

"This is a big deal for China's AI industry," said He Hui, director of semiconductor research at consultancy Omdia.

"Huawei's Ascend chips are the country's best homegrown alternative to Nvidia, and supporting DeepSeek V4 ​shows that top Chinese AI models can now run on Chinese hardware."

Most leading AI models are trained and run on chips made by Nvidia. And DeepSeek's pivot to Huawei underscores concerns raised by Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang that the U.S. firm risks losing its developer ecosystem in China due to U.S. export controls and Beijing's push for self sufficiency.


"The day that DeepSeek comes out on Huawei first, that is a horrible outcome for our nation," Huang said on a podcast this month.

The V4 is the fastest model to trend at the top spot on Hugging Face, a popular developer forum for sharing and running machine learning models, said Lewis Tunstall, ‌a machine learning engineer at Hugging Face.

It is good at handling extremely ⁠long and complex text tasks, and it does so much more cheaply than competing top models, but has some limitations. For instance, it doesn't support multiple modalities like images and video, Tunstall said.

HUAWEI AND DEEPSEEK'S CLOSE COLLABORATION

DeepSeek has drawn criticism from Washington and U.S. rivals that its success owes much to the improper use ⁠of American know-how.

For its part, DeepSeek has acknowledged the use of Nvidia chips but has not said whether those chips were subject to export bans. It has also said it has not intentionally used synthetic data generated by OpenAI.


Friday's launch comes a day after the White House accused China of stealing U.S. AI labs' intellectual property on an industrial scale, and ahead of a visit by U.S. President Donald Trump to Beijing next month to meet ​with ​China's leader, Xi Jinping.

The Trump administration in January gave the green light for Nvidia's powerful H200 chips to be ​sold in China but sources have said that shipments have been stymied by disagreements ‌over the terms of the sales both in China and the U.S.

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Nvidia CEO Delivers a Curt 9-Word Message to Investors
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Thu, April 23, 2026 at 2:18 PM GMT+1 1 min read

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This article first appeared on GuruFocus.

Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA) Chief Executive Jensen Huang used a brief remark to reinforce the company's positioning in artificial intelligence, saying, Not one company can match Nvidia's performance per dollar, during a recent podcast discussion.

Nvidia framed the comment around total cost of ownership, or TCO, which includes hardware, power, cooling and software costs rather than just chip pricing. Nvidia indicated its systems may deliver higher AI output per dollar when these factors are considered.

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erico2k2:
Take your time and read all these and see how it relates to al that you wrote there as if china was begging anybody up there

Three top Chinese AI firms have been told to reject US-origin capital without government approval. The directive reshapes how Washington money reaches Beijing's strategic technology champions.

The instructions were issued by the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) in recent weeks. Bloomberg first reported the guidance on Friday.


Beijing Cuts Off US Capital For Its AI Giants
ByteDance, TikTok's parent and China's most valuable private startup, was told to block US secondary share sales without state clearance.

The instruction carries weight given ByteDance's complex ownership structure and pool of US institutional backers. Any secondary liquidity now funnels through Beijing.

Moonshot AI, considering a Hong Kong listing, was told to refuse US capital in funding rounds and deals without approval.

The restriction complicates pre-IPO planning for a firm widely seen as China's answer to OpenAI. Any foreign allocation will likely tilt toward Middle Eastern and Hong Kong investors.

StepFun, a Tencent-backed startup focused on multimodal and generative AI, received the same guidance as Moonshot. The company is less globally known but ranks among Beijing's strategic AI champions.

Why China Is Gating Its AI Firms
The guidance follows Meta Platforms' roughly $2 billion acquisition of Singapore-based Manus, a startup with deep Chinese engineering roots.

Beijing imposed exit restrictions on the co-founders of Manus and reviewed the deal for potential technology export violations.

On Wednesday, White House science director Michael Kratsios accused Chinese entities of running industrial-scale campaigns to extract US AI models.

"Foreign entities who build on such fragile foundations should have little confidence in the integrity and reliability of the models they produce," he stated.

The Trump administration signaled new enforcement against firms using model distillation, according to reports.

The capital divide between Washington and Beijing looks set to deepen. Beijing may formalize the guidance into a published regulation over the coming weeks.

Read the Original story China Orders Three AI Giants to Reject US Investment by Lockridge Okoth at beincrypto.com



Reuters
DeepSeek unveils new AI model tailored for Huawei chips as China pushes for tech autonomy

FILE PHOTO: China's DeepSeek trained AI model on Nvidia's best chip despite US ban, official says · Reuters
Eduardo Baptista, Ethan Wang and Che Pan
Fri, April 24, 2026 at 4:11 AM GMT+1 4 min read

BEIJING, April 24 (Reuters) - DeepSeek, the Chinese startup whose low-cost AI model stunned the world last year, launched on Friday a preview of a highly awaited new model adapted for Huawei chip technology, underlining China's growing autonomy in the sector.


The Pro version of the new model outperforms other open-source models in ‌world-knowledge benchmarks, trailing only Google's closed-source Gemini-Pro-3.1, DeepSeek said.

The close collaboration with Huawei on the new model, the V4, contrasts with DeepSeek's past reliance on Nvidia's AI chips. Huawei said ‌its chips were used in some of the V4's training process.

"This is a big deal for China's AI industry," said He Hui, director of semiconductor research at consultancy Omdia.

"Huawei's Ascend chips are the country's best homegrown alternative to Nvidia, and supporting DeepSeek V4 ​shows that top Chinese AI models can now run on Chinese hardware."

Most leading AI models are trained and run on chips made by Nvidia. And DeepSeek's pivot to Huawei underscores concerns raised by Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang that the U.S. firm risks losing its developer ecosystem in China due to U.S. export controls and Beijing's push for self sufficiency.


"The day that DeepSeek comes out on Huawei first, that is a horrible outcome for our nation," Huang said on a podcast this month.

The V4 is the fastest model to trend at the top spot on Hugging Face, a popular developer forum for sharing and running machine learning models, said Lewis Tunstall, ‌a machine learning engineer at Hugging Face.

It is good at handling extremely ⁠long and complex text tasks, and it does so much more cheaply than competing top models, but has some limitations. For instance, it doesn't support multiple modalities like images and video, Tunstall said.

HUAWEI AND DEEPSEEK'S CLOSE COLLABORATION

DeepSeek has drawn criticism from Washington and U.S. rivals that its success owes much to the improper use ⁠of American know-how.

For its part, DeepSeek has acknowledged the use of Nvidia chips but has not said whether those chips were subject to export bans. It has also said it has not intentionally used synthetic data generated by OpenAI.


Friday's launch comes a day after the White House accused China of stealing U.S. AI labs' intellectual property on an industrial scale, and ahead of a visit by U.S. President Donald Trump to Beijing next month to meet ​with ​China's leader, Xi Jinping.

The Trump administration in January gave the green light for Nvidia's powerful H200 chips to be ​sold in China but sources have said that shipments have been stymied by disagreements ‌over the terms of the sales both in China and the U.S.

GuruFocus.com
Nvidia CEO Delivers a Curt 9-Word Message to Investors
Nauman Khan
Thu, April 23, 2026 at 2:18 PM GMT+1 1 min read

StockStory Top Pick
NVDA
+4.32%

AVGO
+0.67%

This article first appeared on GuruFocus.

Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA) Chief Executive Jensen Huang used a brief remark to reinforce the company's positioning in artificial intelligence, saying, Not one company can match Nvidia's performance per dollar, during a recent podcast discussion.

Nvidia framed the comment around total cost of ownership, or TCO, which includes hardware, power, cooling and software costs rather than just chip pricing. Nvidia indicated its systems may deliver higher AI output per dollar when these factors are considered.

Bro, all these just proof my point.

You wrote:
DeepSeek has drawn criticism from Washington and U.S. rivals that its success owes much to the improper use ⁠of American know-how.

For its part, DeepSeek has acknowledged the use of Nvidia chips but has not said whether those chips were subject to export bans. It has also said it has not intentionally used synthetic data generated by OpenAI.

Further proving my point.

To simplify this argument that China don't create advance chips, answer just one question:


Why do Chinese automobile companies buy 90% of their chips from EUROPE and South Korea and not from their nation CHINA?


CHINESE MADE CHIPS CAN'T BE USED ON CARS AND PHONES.

Please answer only that question