₦airaland Forum

20 hours daily is fantastic
4 hours for service & maintenance

We cannot afford it but we can afford to pay estimated bills for years weda there's light or not...

Coolbite:
When we say common sense is far from being common, this is an example. 24 hours electricity with prepaid metre is all that is needed. The prepaid put you in control of your power consumption.

All over the word, wherever there is 24 hours electricity supply, people control its usage.

Consumers know that there is direct connection between the bill and consumption. But in Nigeria, there is no correlation between what is consumed and the monthly bill for those on post-paid metre.

Until they give you 24/7 electricity with a prepaid meter, your house will be in darkness. LoL
When I was living in Band A light area in PH, power rarely went off for more than 20 mins in 24hrs. We can have light for days.
But guess what, I have neighbours who won't even put on the outside light for there to be light in the stairway.
I travelled and left the house for some friends, they were recharging 5k or 10k, and were wondering why it finished in 3 days.
They will be turning off fridge and ac even though it's an inverter AC, and I have changed all the fans to rechargeable. I was spending 60-100k monthly before I left.

I recently moved into a new band B area in Lagos, and nepa people just came to find out that the previous tenant bypassed one of the lines in the meter. Now, it's looking like my music to face cos landlord and property manager don't even send me.
Even though 24/7 light is cheaper than generators or solar inverters, most Nigerians are not wired to pay for stuff they consider public utility.

Government should make the power available and then charge for it. The people on the so called band A are complaining of power shortages meaning paying more for darkness. People will always pay for efficiency. At the end of the day, household and small businesses consumption is prepaid, one can manage what he consumes.

Princedapace:
Okay, so why cant u enable your citizens to afford the electricity? Like in in other countries where citizens afford light? At least whe u pay people well in a society, they can afford quality of life. So, whose fault is it that over 95 percent of the citzens cant afford good quality of life but all politicians can live large? That shows the system is faulty.
And what he said is actually funny becus he is asking govt to at least ensure there is light at night for citiznes to use and sleep. That is also hard for a failed country called Nigeria

I don’t understand. Are we poorer than beninoise and Togolese? Cotonou and Togo has constant power supply

cyril10:
This guy has really lost it, i don't think he knows what he says this time. This hypocrite is systematically supporting Tinubu, he doesn't want to come out open.

The guy brain don cast

nairalanda1:
LOL...the GSM companies were allowed to set their prices, the power sector was not allowed to, and was forced by government to sell below production costs, with the promise of a subsidy that as you know was not paid in full, and even now government refuses to pay in full.

That's why the GSM companies work...being allowed to set your prices allows you to make enough profit to improve things, while the power sector cannot

Also, at least 20% of consumers of electricity do not pay at all for the power they use due to meter bypassing or just plain removal. TO use a phone you must pay money into it. If you don't, your line would eventually be declared dormant.

So, the GSM companies make money, enough money to pay for improvements ...while the power sector loses money and has to sack workers and reject power from gencos to survive till the next year.., because of goverment policy and people thinking power must be free (which is one of the reasons why tinubu is a bad leader).


I wonder what you expected me to say? LOL.

This is why I like and dislike you in equal measure passionately.

You know the truth, as someone with an above average grasp of the full picture, yet you keep attacking Tinubu your specialist knowledge should make you praise as the truth and only leader looking for critically effective solutions to entrenched problems.

Was it not OBJ, GEJ and Buhari responsible for the bolded in your post while Tinubu, trying to foster foreign investor confidence in our power sector, prefers to settle debts, in trillions of Naira, owed to DISCOs and GENCOs, when they have now downed tools, rather than bully them with Presidential fiat as other Presidents before him did?

This people, you call people 'ignorant' and turned around to tell person that called another person a fool as disrespectful. Chei, my God save your likes for this high level of hypocrisy.

And for your information, 24hrs light doesn't mean it us required for 25hrs, it means that it is available whenever required. Even the rich do switch off their lights when they are not at home.

helinues:
Can't you people even express yourself without disrespecting others.

The main topic, you never made any contribution apart from insulting Deji for airing his opinion.

Make una stop this boring attitude of shutting others down jare

jetguy:
People go just open their mouth waaaaaaaaaa like warehouse. Shioo.


What about artisans...

illiterate educated people everywhere

He doesn't recognize the impact of artisans in the economy, when people talks too much they begin to sound incoherent...

Deji need some rest...

Deji Adeyanju, finally desperate to spotlight himself to Tinubu by all means possible.

Deji fedding up of been on the masses side this long, now wants his potion of the national cake from APC. The longtroat don endure tire.

GENZ What the light 24/7.

nairalanda1:
Many of those poorer countries also tend not to try to give everyone electricity...which means the cities have power, but most of the country does not.

Also, many of those poorer countries pay for the constant power with debt. Which is why many of them like Bangladesh and Laos want to remove power subsides.




I don't know where you lived, (probably Jos, which has had a private power company since the late 1980;s)but since I was born, over the last 4-5 decades, power supply has been problematic from time inmmemorial wherever I have lived..and it is because of lack of a cost reflective tarrif and power theft. And that is the expereince of MOST OF THE COUNTRY ...since 1978.



Ivory Coast in the 1980;s was like Nigeria, power cuts, and collapse of the grid. Then in 1993, the very corrupt and bigoted government of Bedie brought in cost reflective tarrifs. Result....24 hour power supply, lots of investment in the power sector...INCLUDING FROM THE WORLD BANK OF ALL THE ENTITIES...and no grid collapse since the last one over 35 years ago.

If it worked for Ivory coast...which is as poor as we are...



We do all that because we won't pay the entities that are supposed to do that cost reflective tarrifs, and sensible taxes. Because we grow up with the myth that they would eat all the money...when the reality was that we were not paying enough money in to begin with, and we were using oil money that was never enough to give us the goodies on a permanent basis


Corruption made the already bad matter worse.

Note that I did not defend corruption or tinubu, and if you think I do that, you better think again.

We are thinking we can live like Saudi...when we don't have the resoruces Saudi has. Sane countries pay cost reflective tarrifs and high taxes in return for benefits . We think we should get everyhting for cheap, and the government played along..and now we are in debt and matters are worse.

Things cost money. Nigeria is not that rich to pay for 24 hours power supply. No country is that rich to pay for 24 hours power supply...so it is either cost reflective tarrifs, or massive borrowing.

And shouting poverty is not going to cut it. We have bad power because most of you refuse to pay a cost reflective tarrif. Just as you cannot have a Ferrari because you don't have the complete money.

Yet in this country, we demand for ferrari at the price of a bicycle. LOL.


Again, you are buying transformers because you guys don't pay a cost reflective tarrif, so the discos cannot make enough profit to buy transformer for you.

If you don't get it, sorry.

I live in Lagos not Jos ( though I have a property in Jos but never spent a night there ), the talk that Nigerians don't pay for a cost reflective of tarrif is absurdity because for decades Nigerians have been paying for electricity not used. Before I got prepaid meter in 2017 my house was getting 25k bill monthly despite no one living in the building, Lagos state govt was also sending land used charges and I had to pay all when I finally moved into the house in 2022.
For decades people were given exorbitant estimated bills for electricity not provided,

Though I lived abroad for many years but I have spent at least 40 years of adult life in Nigeria and there was never a time people refused to pay for any quoted tarrif for electricity, rather the people in government has been the one looting our collective wealth without providing the services been paid for.

A minister said Nigeria needs $100bn to generates adequate power yet $122bn was discovered to have been unaccounted for at NNPC, in a country where a school teacher becomes a senator and becomes a billionaire in few years with over 200 properties scattered across the country and yet one will wake up to say Nigeria can't pay for 24hrs of electricity.

How many countries have you been to have concluded that no country is rich enough to provide 24hrs of electricity ?

Nigeria being an oil rich nation is rich enough to provide 24hrs electricity of we have the right leaders who are not there to loot our money, Yahaya Bello alone was discovered to have looted $180m in just 8 years then multiply that by the number of governors and senators we have had in the last 26 years alone then me how Nigeria is too poor to provide 24hrs of electricity to the citizens.

cyril10:
This guy has really lost it, i don't think he knows what he says this time. This hypocrite is systematically supporting Tinubu, he doesn't want to come out open.

Him and Shehu Sani just went to make a mockery of themselves. They spoke nonsense, contradicted themselves, and I must say, the most irrelevant interview done by HBC. Especially that Shehu Sani...

uniquetechng:
I live in Lagos not Jos ( though I have a property in Jos but never spent a night there ), the talk that Nigerians don't pay for a cost reflective of tarrif is absurdity because for decades Nigerians have been paying for electricity not used. Before I got prepaid meter in 2017 my house was getting 25k bill monthly despite no one living in the building, Lagos state govt was also sending land used charges and I had to pay all when I finally moved into the house in 2022.
For decades people were given exorbitant estimated bills for electricity not provided,

Though I lived abroad for many years but I have spent at least 40 years of adult life in Nigeria and there was never a time people refused to pay for any quoted tarrif for electricity, rather the people in government has been the one looting our collective wealth without providing the services been paid for.

A minister said Nigeria needs $100bn to generates adequate power yet $122bn was discovered to have been unaccounted for at NNPC, in a country where a school teacher becomes a senator and becomes a billionaire in few years with over 200 properties scattered across the country and yet one will wake up to say Nigeria can't pay for 24hrs of electricity.

How many countries have you been to have concluded that no country is rich enough to provide 24hrs of electricity ?

Nigeria being an oil rich nation is rich enough to provide 24hrs electricity of we have the right leaders who are not there to loot our money, Yahaya Bello alone was discovered to have looted $180m in just 8 years then multiply that by the number of governors and senators we have had in the last 26 years alone then me how Nigeria is too poor to provide 24hrs of electricity to the citizens.

1. It's going to take time to get back that 122 bn dollars, meanwhile, we need light now

2. Even if we spend it all on light, there remains the issue of keeping the lights on...welcome cost reflective tarrifs

3. We are not an oil rich nation, we are a resource rich nation that thinks that selliing resources and sharing the money is the way forward...instead of using those resources to develop industrial goods that are exportable.

THAT IS WHY YOUR LEADERS ARE BAD...Not just corruption.]

Good evening.

This is the problem with people that went to school at old age.

nairalanda1:
1. It's going to take time to get back that 122 bn dollars, meanwhile, we need light now

2. Even if we spend it all on light, there remains the issue of keeping the lights on...welcome cost reflective tarrifs

3. We are not an oil rich nation, we are a resource rich nation that thinks that selliing resources and sharing the money is the way forward...instead of using those resources to develop industrial goods that are exportable.

THAT IS WHY YOUR LEADERS ARE BAD...Not just corruption.]

Good evening.

It all boil down to politicians ( leaders ) and that's exactly what I have been saying, at 51 I have lived long enough to know where our problems lies. It's not just about paying reflective cost but our politicians using our common wealth for the collective good of the citizens.

uniquetechng:
It all boil down to politicians ( leaders ) and that's exactly what I have been saying, at 51 I have lived long enough to know where our problems lies. It's not just about paying reflective cost but our politicians using our common wealth for the collective good of the citizens.

The problem with your view is that you think Nigeria can be like Saudi Arabia. I think Nigeria should be like Germany, China, Japan and South Korea

nairalanda1:
The problem with your view is that you think Nigeria can be like Saudi Arabia. I think Nigeria should be like Germany, China, Japan and South Korea

Nigeria don't have to be like Saudi Arabia for the citizens to enjoy common basic amenities.

uniquetechng:
Nigeria don't have to be like Saudi Arabia for the citizens to enjoy common basic amenities.

But that is what you want.

You want a government that would share money equitably

You don't want a government that would stimulate industrial development and an economy based on the export of manufactured goods and services

nairalanda1:
But that is what you want.

You want a government that would share money equitably

You don't want a government that would stimulate industrial development and an economy based on the export of manufactured goods and services

How do you stimulate industrial growth without electricity ?

Do you know how much multinationals spend on diesel monthly ?
I send over 150k on fuel monthly just to power a 6 bedroom duplex, that money would have been adequately channeled into something else.

Very easy to spot graduates of online law schools 🤣. So how will small scale business operate?, so the roadside barber, welders, and even banks not to even talk of hospitals should manage 2hrs of light?

athorello:
Until they give you 24/7 electricity with a prepaid meter, your house will be in darkness. LoL
When I was living in Band A light area in PH, power rarely went off for more than 20 mins in 24hrs. We can have light for days.
But guess what, I have neighbours who won't even put on the outside light for there to be light in the stairway.
I travelled and left the house for some friends, they were recharging 5k or 10k, and were wondering why it finished in 3 days.
They will be turning off fridge and ac even though it's an inverter AC, and I have changed all the fans to rechargeable. I was spending 60-100k monthly before I left.

I recently moved into a new band B area in Lagos, and nepa people just came to find out that the previous tenant bypassed one of the lines in the meter. Now, it's looking like my music to face cos landlord and property manager don't even send me.
Even though 24/7 light is cheaper than generators or solar inverters, most Nigerians are not wired to pay for stuff they consider public utility.

Indeed. The bolded in your post is what all previous Presidents accepted and decided to work with deceitfully in the quest to enjoy 8 years in office.

They know Nigerians are "not wired" to pay the real cost it will take to create 24/7 electricity so they use Government funds for subsidy that keeps poor and inadequate power supply in place while bullying GENCOs and DISCOs to keep operating even though they owe them trillions.

It is stubborn Tinubu who is the "failure" and enemy today for his obsession with permanent solutions that has led him to chase the creation of a culture of Nigerians paying cost-reflective tariffs , that is the norm globally, to end the problem of the power sector.

With Nigeria being broke, while GEJ and Buhari trotted out fake "power sector privatision" initiatives they did not support beyond signing on the dotted line, how will foreign investors be attracted to transform our power sector for the better if we are not ready to pay tariffs that makes it profitable and worthwhile for them to do so?

Last, last, and perhaps in fifty years, it will dawn on some why some of us want regional autonomy while ignorant Nigerians who do not know the nature of the major problems of Nigeria keep believing one messiah can deliver 24/7 power, cheap fuel, 0.5% inflation rate etc.

Tinubu, while his predecessors believed in half measures and deception so they enjoy 8 yeats in officers, is paying for his decency and sincerity that makes him believe requisite socio-economic "tough love" and reformational leadership, the sort that lifted many million out of poverty in Singapore and China, is the way forward.

His only mistake is not understanding that Nigerians are very different to Singaporeans and Chinese people.

Tell a Singaporean or Chinese that cheap petrol and free power supply is not possible/sustainable and he will reason the matter to shape up.

Tell the Chinese man he must have one child for the foreseeable future so that China's national resources can cover the needs of her citizens and he will discipline himself to have one child only.

Nigerians are the total opposite. It is government that must find a way to give them cheap fuel, free electricity and opulent lives for their 25 kids even as father and his 5 wives who gave birth to those children they cannot raise well are illiterates with little employable skills.

Suffering n smile

Deji is just a foolish person and a negative person who doesn't like success

helinues:
Can't you people even express yourself without disrespecting others.

The main topic, you never made any contribution apart from insulting Deji for airing his opinion.

Make una stop this boring attitude of shutting others down jare

yes. People need to support anybody that supports your sponsor. 🤡

uniquetechng:
Nigeria don't have to be like Saudi Arabia for the citizens to enjoy common basic amenities.

It is not about wealth alone. Are Saudi Arabians like Nigerians used to fierce defense of a self-destructive culture whereby weaponised poverty from one government after another for decades, through use of subsidies in critical sector that should pay for itself like education and electricity etal has led to the ruination of everything and everyone?

Tell Nigerians to support reforms, as citizens of other nations have done to develop their nation, and receive curses in return.

Look at education where government after government subsidised school fees so it is no higher for students per year than the full tank of one of my V6 SUVs just so we can boast Nigeria too has "graduates".

Yet the end result is a lack of innate strenght in the eduxation system to attract quality tuition that creates solutions providers. Today we have a system that sells degrees to students who barely spend 10 days in total in a lecture hall.

Others are creating solutions providers while Nigeria is creating tonnes of mass communication graduates and civil engineers who cannot build footpaths let alone fourth mainland bridge.

The problem is with the people and not leadership alone today although leaders in the past are to blame heavily because had they applied tough love, instead of using subsidies as tools of weaponised poverty to keep Nigerians docile, things may be different today

They say when the head is off it will be too late to cry. Nigeria the sixth highest most populated country in the world with over 200million people in need of over 200 000Mw of electricity power supply generation, Transmission and distribution in the country with just a little about 5000Mw as at yesterday evening see the ( National Control Centre Oshogbo) for confirmation.
Unlike Brazil the 7th world populated country [ 185 million] but today having a power generation system of a little over 185milion Mw. Also see MEXICO the 10th most populated country in the world with over 150000MW .
But going back to power systems supply failure in the country Nigeria immediately after Indipendence in 1960.
It will be recalled during the colonial administration, Nigeria has coal generation systems and as well started building the Kainji Hydro power generation system through River Niger in 1955 through the construction of Kainji Lake. As proposed by the colonial the Kainji programs was meant for 120000Mw after completion but because Nigeria became Independent in October 1960, but instead of Tafawa/Balewa_ Nnamdi Azikwe governmental system to continue with the programs as planned by the Colonial administration it was not continued as planned, then came Gowon military administration period and when he came to power and he was told to continue with Kainji Hydro systems that was meant to be 1200Mw but Balewa/ Zik administration only 320 Mw was done ,but instead but Gowon said No, [MONEY IS NOT OWER PROBLEMS BUT HOW TO SPEND IT] and that was how Kainji Dam was abandoned unfortunately by 1975 one of the 4 units has collapsed bringing back the system to just 250Mw. Up till today no any on going power supply projects programs have ever been completed except abandoned.
Also remember during Babangida military administration when he said his administration Wii no more supply money to NEPA power programs buildings again which brought about NEPA strike 1988 that led TO 11 NEPA staff Unions being asked to be sentenced to death through Treason but were only sentenced to 10 year jails each at Kano high court. So also remember during TINUBU Lagos State administration when he started the Lagos State coastal area Hydro power stations with the contractors from one of the great Lakes [HOMES] in America. In 1995 the new Lagos areas were happy with the on going power supply in that area at 12 Naira per kwh unit, but Obasanjo as political administrative ruler then said the contractor of the Hydro power supply stations should charge their supply to the area at 4 Naira per units as they the government are charging their own unavailable supply to people, and this led the company abandoning their Lagos State coastal area Hydro power stations programs.
So they say when the head is off it will be too late to cry. So bygone is bygone.

Nigerians dont even use electricity for 24 hours except you're running a business.
I supply all the electricity I need and I dont even use it 24 hours as I have to sleep.
18 hours is enough for most folks.

Imbe.

Put the light there who can afford should buy. Everybody will learn how to manage light one time.

We should have light 24/7 even if we cannot afford it.

It's like phone you have it doesn't mean you have credit or data.

Light should only go off when your units run out not when you have units and it goes off.

Once again imbe

Equity15:
I don’t understand. Are we poorer than beninoise and Togolese? Cotonou and Togo has constant power supply

Everything is too cheap in Nigeria and that's why you get poor services. Internet is way faster and better than in Nigeria, and costly too. Try and turn on your data with notifications in Benin Republic the way you do in Nigeria and see wonders.