₦airaland Forum

maasoap:
The picture below is the result of how your fellow countrymen policing their community. Something is wrong with you all, including your governments at various levels. You're murdering your fellow black African brothers. Shame.
Copy: IronGalaxy

They've taken the law to their hands in the absence of good policing.. its our government's fault that bad eggs of every country on the continent have infiltrated our country, so please dont play the "helpless, innocent African immigrant" angle here, especially when our people narrate accounts such as this one below. You're the ones who are the problems here no South African would be caught doing such in your countries

IronGalaxy:
They've taken the law to their hands in the absence of good policing.. its our government's fault that bad eggs of every country on the continent have infiltrated our country, so please dont play the "helpless, innocent African immigrant" angle here, especially when our people narrate accounts such as this one below. You're the ones who are the problems here no South African would be caught doing such in your countries

Your brothers are attacking every and all black immigrants and their businesses irrespective of their legal status. They're equally lazy, they don't even want jobs. But are jealous of successful hardworking black immigrants.
I don't know any crime that black immigrants are committing that your own citizens are not equally guilty of.
Do you know what it means to kill a human? If your brothers could be killing black immigrants, you should be worried about them and their mental health state

IronGalaxy:
Thank you for this honesty, I'll further give you an example.. small mining communities around SA are currently under siege from armed illegal miners from neighboring Zim, Mozambique and Lesotho, the situation got so bad to the point that people from those communities had to resort to sleeping in a community hall because of bring driven out by these terrorists, imagine being driven out from your home, entire families, to sleep in a hall because of illegal foreigners.. tell me if its this fair.. people are pointing fingers and are gaslighting the reasons South Africans are this fed up.

Some of us (unbiased Nigerians) know these things, hence my previous comment. Even the one where some of my people, being maybe too idle or too comfortable in your country, wanted to install a king there. We sane Nigerians condemned (internally) such disappointing act after the incident, rising to a serious argument among us Nigerians, because we know it is something we won't even tolerate here..

Like I said, you guys should continue doing the right thing in sensitizing your communities without allowing anyone to gaslight or emotionally blackmail y'all..

Pan-Africanism does not represent illegality, neither does it permit cowardice in citizens with mass corruption in government...

maasoap:
Your brothers are attacking every and all black immigrants and their businesses irrespective of their legal status. They're equally lazy, they don't even want jobs. But are jealous of successful hardworking black immigrants.
I don't know any crime that black immigrants are committing that your own citizens are not equally guilty of.
Do you know what it means to kill a human? If your brothers could be killing black immigrants, you should be worried about them and their mental health state

These are verifiable facts you can verify yourself. Let's compare me and you.
Higher standards of living. = black South Africans
Excess to free healthcare = black South Africans
Excess to better infrastructure = Black South Africans
Income = black South Africans
Biggest black middle class in Africa = Black South Africans
Literacy = Black South Africans
Excess to clean water = Black south Africans
Higher GDP per capita [purchasing power] = Black South Africans
Higher life expectancy = Black South Africans
Excess to government social programs eg disability, child, elderly grants = Black South Africans
Highest number of black USD millionaires = Blalck South Africans. The list is endless..all of this from "lazy" people

So tell me, how on earth would I be "jealous" of you? There's nothing an average South African looks from Nigeria and immediately envies...

YoungLionken:
Some of us (unbiased Nigerians) know these things, hence my previous comment. Even the one where some of my people, being maybe too idle or too comfortable in your country, wanted to install a king there. We sane Nigerians condemned (internally) such disappointing act after the incident, rising to a serious argument among us Nigerians, because we know it is something we won't even tolerate here..

Like I said, you guys should continue doing the right thing in sensitizing your communities without allowing anyone to gaslight or emotionally blackmail y'all..

Pan-Africanism does not represent illegality, neither does it permit cowardice in citizens with mass corruption in government...

You probably represent 0.001.% of your people

IronGalaxy:
These are verifiable facts you can verify yourself. Let's compare me and you.
Higher standards of living. = black South Africans
Excess to free healthcare = black South Africans
Excess to better infrastructure = Black South Africans
Income = black South Africans
Biggest black middle class in Africa = Black South Africans
Literacy = Black South Africans
Excess to clean water = Black south Africans
Higher GDP per capita [purchasing power] = Black South Africans
Higher life expectancy = Black South Africans
Excess to government social programs eg disability, child, elderly grants = Black South Africans
Highest number of black USD millionaires = Blalck South Africans. The list is endless..all of this from "lazy" people

So tell me, how on earth would I be "jealous" of you? There's nothing an average South African looks from Nigeria and immediately envies...

They're are in your country working hard and successful. But your lazy ass brothers only see their successes but not their hardwork and they become jealous. I'm not even talking or comparing about the standards of living between Nigeria and South Africa, that's not my headache. My headache is how to get your people stop this current round of xenophobic attacks.

maasoap:
They're are in your country working hard and successful. But your lazy ass brothers only see their successes but not their hardwork and they become jealous. I'm not even talking or comparing about the standards of living between Nigeria and South Africa, that's not my headache. My headache is how to get your people stop this current round of xenophobic attacks.

My question still stands ...

I'm superior than you in every postitive, progressive index be it average wealth, living standards, lieracy, etc..so why would I be jealous of you?

Ill wait for a credible answer, not this back and forth

IronGalaxy:
Are you even intelligent" ? Lets start there.. can you even read?

Tell me, what's "xenophobic" with telling you the truth?

Where did I say only black immigrants commit crimes?

And what does the percentage of immigrants have tk do with the fact, that they do infact commit crimes? Can our government track thr illegal ones after the commit thos crimes? Do you think your mafia group "the " is here legally?

Mass migration has exacerbated the crime situation in SA..deny it all you want don't care

You should be ashamed of yourself posting a report from 2017, you seem really intelligent and a terrible xenophobic liar. How do you accuse people of flaunting your country laws when you don't respect the laws yourselves. Which babaric law permits unauthorized fellows to harass individuals on the Streets ? Let's assume they're criminals, are there no law enforcement agencies

You can't support xenophobic actions and sounds unfoolish. My question remains, why not go after white immigrants (your gods) and ask them for permits legal documents??

iceking4:
You should be ashamed of yourself posting a report from 2017, you seem really intelligent and a terrible xenophobic liar. How do you accuse people of flaunting your country laws when you don't respect the laws yourselves. Which babaric law permits unauthorized fellows to harass individuals on the Streets ? Let's assume they're criminals, are there no law enforcement agencies

You can't support xenophobic actions and sounds unfoolish. My question remains, why not go after white immigrants (your gods) and ask them for permits legal documents??

Really? The only thing you got from the article is its date not the concerning headline? Not surprised though, you lots will fight tooth and nail to defend criminality and not take accountability.. the date of this article actually goes to show how long weve been tolerating your BS.. and we cant take it anymore. just look at the article below, as early as in 2002.. you were already posing drug problems.. but hey its "xenophobia" right? You people are shameless

IronGalaxy:
Complete BS..Nigerians migrate because of desperation, not because they're somehow bestowed with this "industrousness" some nationalities don't posses..You cannot risk drowning in some ocean fleeing your country then claim is for "broadening your reach or horizons" I wasn't born yesterday Seppuku... its sheer desperation.. Nigerians celebrate leaving Nigeria like people who have just prison man, its telling..

Everybody grinds and hustles on a daily basis, its called life, its the same in Burundi, same in Somalia and its the same in the same South Africa where you accuse its populous of just "drinking beer in Shebeens and lying in the sun the whole day" where your countrymen regularly call its people "lazy".The 150 million left grinding and hustling over the there are doing it so they eventually have enough capital to also "japa" outta there, its a vicious circle.

I don't know where you heard me use the word "industrious". I said we are not lazy waiting for puppet governments in cohoots with white monopoly capital to do the right thing. We have been moving round the world since the 1930's and will ontinue take advantage of this global capitalist system and operate beyond borders. It's the same reason the indian migrants obtains a H1B visa or the mexican jumps the border or the South African nurse who runs to the UK for work.

Welcome to globalization. There is no going back now. The century of "nation states" as you know them are quietly fading away. Good luck on getting your country back to they way it was during apartheid when you were in isolation I know you guys just got your country and have not had time to settle in and enjoy it.

Shame.

IronGalaxy:
You thought the complain was only crime? No, grime as well... and a whole myriad of issues, but for now lets stick to the issue of grime.. Tell me this, why is that after metro police removes illegal immigrants vendors from the streets, our cities become clean a week or so until the same people return? What does it tell you? Your people are the ones turning our cities into open markets like you have there in Okeke or whatever, You should South Africans don't want that for their cities, this is not xenophobia, this is common sense.. compare the cleaner parts of Johannesburg, youll see a pattern, the cleaner parts of the city like Marshaltown, is full of big business, varsity students and South Africans, but go further north and its start looking like Lumbubashi or Maiduguri..

The myriad of excuses are just to cover up what I continue to point out and what the rest of the world is seeing. Since 2005 till now. They are still

taking our jobs
taking our women
taking our spaces
taking our spaza shops.
Then it's they are selling drugs to our children
Then it's they are killing our children with expired goods
Then it's they are ruining our cities with dirt
Then it's they are abusing us on tic toc and disrespecting us in our COWNTRI.

You guys really are a bunch of cry babies. Grow up will you and take responsibility for your conditions in your COWNTRI.

IronGalaxy:
Why do you think shacks are mushrooming all over the place? That's because of mass migration my friend, where do you think a dirt poor illegal Malawian who's just crossed the border goes to? He's going to the outskirts of our cities to build himself a new shack or find himself a spot in a hijacked building...

And as long as global capital continues to flow into your western styled capitalist economy, they will continue to come. you can't expect capital to move freely into your society and labor not follow suite. Pass all the laws you want.

IronGalaxy:
You don't see Dudula raiding drug dens? is it? Who told you they don't? Wasn't Nhlalnhla lux doing that ? Xolani of "Sizokuthola" TV show who is now mayor of Ekurhuleni does exactly that.. and when I told you months ago that 98% of the criminals he nabs in those raids were Nigerians, you scoffed at it as just "propaganda" because you couldn't play your overplayed xeno card..

Dudula does not such thing. They hijack peoples houses and harass businesses who employ foreigners.

Nhlalnla left Dudula because he understook he was backing a "hate" group and left before he got into more legal trouble. He is now doing real work rehabilitating Nyaope boys

As for Xolani, he is mayoral candidate and not a mayor. I really don't have a problem with him snuffing out drug dealers and trying to clean up his community however it is dubious at best at the focus on "nigerians" when we know there are far more South african drug dealers in South Africa as a whole.

IronGalaxy:
Cape Town is a city that is pricing out ordinary South Africans of all races.. this a hallmark of touristy cities all over the world.. People are complaining of this, but again understand nucance and context here, A South African that is looking to live in Camps Bay in the first place..is well to do South African.. professionals, businesses men.. etc.. you're expect this person to do what exactly? People complain of what affects them directly..the issue here is proximity not selective outrage. If you take a trip to the slums of Phillipi in the same Cape Town, people will complain of menial jobs jobs being taken away from them because illegals are willing to work for next to nothing.. therefore pricing them out..why would this profile of a person care that a South Africa professional is being priced out Camps bay by a German?

I trust that you will still come out labeling everything I've raised here as just "xenophobia" because you refuse to look past yourself and your insatiable need to be seen as victim.

The highlighted simply demonstrates the simpleton nature of the average black South African then, right up your noses your country is being sold to the highest bidders and the long term effects will be catastrophic to the entire black population seeing that the general wealth of the country will continue to reside in the hands of the "white class" be they native or "investor".

Meanwhile you guys are busy hunting down other "poor" people and harassing them on a weekly basis. I see no nuance here. I see a completely myopic view of the world you live in.

PS. Let me be clear again with you on my stance, I continue to recognize the issues surrounding migration in South Africa, however I will not understand nor condone the filthy, mindless, directionless, dehumanizing and denigrating manner in which some of your semi illiterate class of people are going about it. I will never hold you responsible for catching criminals and dealing with them but convincing me that 90% of the migrants are involved in any of these acts is a far stretch and no more than propaganda to justify well you know what I am about to finish with.

IronGalaxy:
Really? The only thing you got from the article is its date not the concerning headline? Not surprised though, you lots will fight tooth and nail to defend criminality and not take accountability.. the date of this article actually goes to show how long weve been tolerating your BS.. and we cant take it anymore. just look at the article below, as early as in 2002.. you were already posing drug problems.. but hey its "xenophobia" right? You people are shameless

Still lying with xenophobic hate. Are there no white foreigners that commit crime in SA do the law permits street harassment? You're supposed to protest against your government for having porous borders and weak immigration laws, not killing innocent people on the street because you perceived they're weak and vulnerable. Why not go to cape town and harass Afrikaners or white foreigners there. You're full of hate of people that helped you during the Apartheid. Finally this whilst charade has not been about crime, it's about go back and fix your country ( guilty or not ). Posterity will be back at your doorstep sooner or later

iceking4:
Still lying with xenophobic hate. Are there no white foreigners that commit crime in SA do the law permits street harassment? You're supposed to protest against your government for having porous borders and weak immigration laws, not killing innocent people on the street because you perceived they're weak and vulnerable. Why not go to cape town and harass Afrikaners or white foreigners there. You're full of hate of people that helped you during the Apartheid. Finally this whilst charade has not been about crime, it's about go back and fix your country ( guilty or not ). Posterity will be back at your doorstep sooner or later

Point out the exact lie in my statement

seppuku:
The myriad of excuses are just to cover up what I continue to point out and what the rest of the world is seeing. Since 2005 till now. They are still

taking our jobs
taking our women
taking our spaces
taking our spaza shops.
Then it's they are selling drugs to our children
Then it's they are killing our children with expired goods
Then it's they are ruining our cities with dirt
Then it's they are abusing us on tic toc and disrespecting us in our COWNTRI.

You guys really are a bunch of cry babies. Grow up will you and take responsibility for your conditions in your COWNTRI.


And as long as global capital continues to flow into your western styled capitalist economy, they will continue to come. you can't expect capital to move freely into your society and labor not follow suite. Pass all the laws you want.


Dudula does not such thing. They hijack peoples houses and harass businesses who employ foreigners.

Nhlalnla left Dudula because he understook he was backing a "hate" group and left before he got into more legal trouble. He is now doing real work rehabilitating Nyaope boys

As for Xolani, he is mayoral candidate and not a mayor. I really don't have a problem with him snuffing out drug dealers and trying to clean up his community however it is dubious at best at the focus on "nigerians" when we know there are far more South african drug dealers in South Africa as a whole.



The highlighted simply demonstrates the simpleton nature of the average black South African then, right up your noses your country is being sold to the highest bidders and the long term effects will be catastrophic to the entire black population seeing that the general wealth of the country will continue to reside in the hands of the "white class" be they native or "investor".

Meanwhile you guys are busy hunting down other "poor" people and harassing them on a weekly basis. I see no nuance here. I see a completely myopic view of the world you live in.

PS. Let me be clear again with you on my stance, I continue to recognize the issues surrounding migration in South Africa, however I will not understand nor condone the filthy, mindless, directionless, dehumanizing and denigrating manner in which some of your semi illiterate class of people are going about it. I will never hold you responsible for catching criminals and dealing with them but convincing me that 90% of the migrants are involved in any of these acts is a far stretch and no more than propaganda to justify well you know what I am about to finish with.

Hahaha. You make me laugh you know. Your penchant of negating accountability and shifting blame is legendary at this point...Your drug and scamming crimes as Nigerians has got you banned and deported in countries like the Seychelles, yet when South Africans complain of exactly the same, you call these "excuses".. how are these banable crimes in one country but " excuses" in another? You lack common sense

The issue of jobs, in a country with such high unemployment will always be a contentious and a serious issue..poor people who are in need of jobs being priced out of jobs with foreigners willing to work for 10 rand for an hour is a serious issue.. How is a issue of kids dying of posinous food not a serious issue..? Cities turning into filth? There are Newspapers articles as far back as 2002 talking about Nigerians and cocaine, today is 2026, my people are still complaining of the same things and you wonder why my people are angry and acting the way they're acting. We are fed up man.. and please stop being a hypocrite, you cant claim "you understand South Africans problems with immigration, yet call the problems that stem from that mass migration "excuses" or "cover ups"

If we're "crybababies" then why not leave the crybabies alone and go back to your countries then? Is that so hard to do?.South Africans are the opposite of crybabies, we are a resilient people, even under Apartheid, you never saw us flooding your countries being "political refugges" we stay and fight a system...even now we hold our government accountable yet we are flooded with people running away from countries not at war...peoplle that cant hold their leaders accountable coming to our country to call us "lazy" and "crybabies", same people that will complain of Buhari and Tinubu but do nothing but run away. Unbelievable.

Why should Dudula not harass businesses employing illegal foreigners? Xolani, didnt focus on Nigerians, your were the bulk of criminals he was nabbing..you are again attempting to shift blame.. face that facts man, Nigerians in SA are a drug problem.. same as they are in India. I also dont recall saying 90% of your were in involved in such.. but wether you choose to bury your head or not ..South Africa's crime situation has been exacerbated by maas migration.

The filth, mindlessness, directionless, denigrate behavior.etc, you accuse South African off, are very same things you people to South Africa.. it seems like the language you know. So why blame South Africans for reacting exactlythe same? .

You know its funny, how there's always a defeaning silence when South African kids die of posinous foods, Zama Zamas terrorizing small communities, Zimbabwean thugs snatching phones in the inner cities, bombing ATMs, human trafficking, etc. .all the things you call a certain Seppuku calls "excuses" ..you don't see all these fake Pan Africanists saying a word.. but wait until we say " enough and enough" and retaliate, then everyone on social media has a think piece and the likes of Seppuku telling us how " denigrate" and " lawlessness" we are acting by reacting to their denigracy" and "lawlessness"

seppuku:
I don't know where you heard me use the word "industrious". I said we are not lazy waiting for puppet governments in cohoots with white monopoly capital to do the right thing. We have been moving round the world since the 1930's and will ontinue take advantage of this global capitalist system and operate beyond borders. It's the same reason the indian migrants obtains a H1B visa or the mexican jumps the border or the South African nurse who runs to the UK for work.

Welcome to globalization. There is no going back now. The century of "nation states" as you know them are quietly fading away. Good luck on getting your country back to they way it was during apartheid when you were in isolation I know you guys just got your country and have not had time to settle in and enjoy it.

Shame.

Of course you wont wait for your government to do the needful because your government is non-existent..your country is on auto-pilot.. Your leader rules from another country, you have no choice but to "japa".. it's all there is to it.. you can call it by fancy terms like "globalization" but your people are fleeeing your country because nothing worls over there, its a failed state.. no need for epistles

IronGalaxy:
Of course you wont wait for your government to do the needful because your government is non-existent..your country is on auto-pilot.. Your leader rules from another country, you have no choice but to "japa".. it's all there is to it.. you can call it by fancy terms like "globalization" but your people are fleeeing your country because nothing worls over there, its a failed state.. no need for epistles

Don't worry Mfethu we have over 90% of the population still living here. Nigeria is not going anywhere.

IronGalaxy:
Hahaha. You make me laugh you know. Your penchant of negating accountability and shifting blame is legendary at this point...Your drug and scamming crimes as Nigerians has got you banned and deported in countries like the Seychelles, yet when South Africans complain of exactly the same, you call these "excuses".. how are these banable crimes in our country but " excuses" in another? You lack common sense

I have never supported drug dealing Nigerians. Call them out and deport them where ever you see them but your demonization of Nigerians is evident for the whole of Africa to see. Its on another level and its simple because you lack exposure.

Why are the rest of Africa not" driving" Nigerians away and please enough with Ghana and Seychelles?

IronGalaxy:
The issue of jobs, in a country with such high unemployment will always be a contentious and a serious issue..poor people who are in need of jobs being priced out of jobs with foreigners willing to work for 10 rand for an hour is a serious issue.. How is a issue of kids dying of posinous food not a serious issue..? Cities turning into filth? There are Newspapers articles as far back as 2002 talking about Nigerians and cocaine, today is 2026, my people are still complaining of the same things and you wonder why my people are angry and acting the way they're acting. We are fed up man.. and please stop being a hypocrite, you cant claim "you understand South Africans problems with immigration, yet call the problems that stem from that mass migration "excuses" or "cover ups"

Then march to parliament, march to the capital, march to Ramaphosa's house or better yet tear up that constitution that is cause of all your bane.

You signed the 1961 refugee accord. You give 30 day visas to SADC countries to freely cross your borders.

You integrated the so called refugees into your townships, you gave them papers, now you crying like babies because your government didn't have an idea of what it was doing.

The whole world is watching you. If you like pivot with the "all Nigerians are drug dealer" narrative. They are not buying it.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBpS_-Kq0uI&t=1591s

IronGalaxy:
If we're "crybababies" then why not leave the crybabies alone and go back to your countries then? Is that so hard to do?.South Africans are the opposite of crybabies, we are a resilient people, even under Apartheid, you never saw us flooding your countries being "political refugges" we stay and fight a system...even now we hold our government accountable yet we are flooded with people running away from countries not at war...peoplle that cant hold their leaders accountable coming to our country to call us "lazy" and "crybabies", same people that will complain of Buhari and Tinubu but do nothing but run away. Unbelievable.

Hahaha. You are really slow. You didn't flood anyones country because you were deliberately kept in bantustans so you could be exploited for labor while the National government kept you isolated and without knowledge about the rest of the world educating you with a basic bantu education.

And this generation of yours are nothing comparable to real SOuth African fighters. You are a bunch of cry babies attacking poor people.

There a myriad of people fighting the government for a better Nigeria, simply because some choose too leave doesn't mean the fight is over. Did your comrades not run out of the country to fight another day.

Ps. I have never outright called a south african lazy so take that sensitive head of yours to tick tock for that nonsense.

IronGalaxy:
Why should Dudula not harass businesses employing illegal foreigners? Xolani, didnt focus on Nigerians, your were the bulk of criminals he was nabbing..you are again attempting to shift blame.. face that facts man, Nigerians in SA are a drug problem.. same as they are in India. I also dont recall saying 90% of your were in involved in such.. but wether you choose to bury your head or not ..South Africa's crime situation has been exacerbated by maas migration.

Again there is no denial from my part that there are Nigerian drug syndicates that operate in South Africa. That is a problem for your government to resolve. Coming here crying to us will get you no where.

IronGalaxy:
The filth, mindlessness, directionless, denigrate behavior.etc, you accuse South African off, are very same things you people to South Africa.. it seems like the language you know. So why blame South Africans for reacting exactlythe same? .

You know its funny, how there's always a defeaning silence when South African kids die of posinous foods, Zama Zamas terrorizing small communities, Zimbabwean thugs snatching phones in the inner cities, bombing ATMs, human trafficking, etc. .all the things you call a certain Seppuku calls "excuses" ..you don't see all these fake Pan Africanists saying a word.. but wait until we say " enough and enough" and retaliate, then everyone on social media has a think piece and the likes of Seppuku telling us how " denigrate" and " lawlessness" we are acting by reacting to their denigracy" and "lawlessness"

Noone should die of poisnous food nor be terrorized by criminals in their own country but your response is lawlessness so is not justified and please stop trying to sell the idea to us that 90% of the economic migrants are participants in these activities is propaganda.

IronGalaxy:
Point out the exact lie in my statement

I asked some simple questions if you cannot answer them , then pls don't bother replying.

Does they law in South Africa allow dehumanising alleged criminals on the streets

Are there white immigrants committing crimes in SA, if yes. Why are they not threatened

The recent xenophobic attacks, is it because of fighting illegal immigrants or fighting black immigrants?


What percentage of land is owned by black South Africans in Thier own country

iceking4:
I asked some simple questions if you cannot answer them , then pls don't bother replying.

Does they law in South Africa allow dehumanising alleged criminals on the streets

Are there white immigrants committing crimes in SA, if yes. Why are they not threatened

The recent xenophobic attacks, is it because of fighting illegal immigrants or fighting black immigrants?


What percentage of land is owned by black South Africans in Thier own country

Nope.. the law doesn't allow for the dehumanizing of anyone, no law does..However our laws also dont allow for your drug and human trafficking, your rapes, ATM bombings, scams, infrastructure vandalizing ...It goes both ways, respect the laws of the country and it won't get nasty.. its that simple really

There are white immigrants in SA that's for sure.. but I have not seen a white immigrant, snatching phones in downtown joburg, hijacking, bombing ATMS, removing an entire traffic light in broad light, hijacking people, terrotizing mining communities, installing unknown kings here, etc.. People react to what they see time and time again.. they see patterns and they see African immigrants doing these things so why would they go and vent their anger on white immigrants?

Fighting black or illegal immigrants? Fighting illegal immigration and Lawless migrants which most of the time happen to be black.. sorry.

Land ownership has nothing to do with the topic discussed

seppuku:
I have never supported drug dealing Nigerians. Call them out and deport them where ever you see them but your demonization of Nigerians is evident for the whole of Africa to see. Its on another level and its simple because you lack exposure.

Why are the rest of Africa not" driving" Nigerians away and please enough with Ghana and Seychelles?




Then march to parliament, march to the capital, march to Ramaphosa's house or better yet tear up that constitution that is cause of all your bane.

You signed the 1961 refugee accord. You give 30 day visas to SADC countries to freely cross your borders.

You integrated the so called refugees into your townships, you gave them papers, now you crying like babies because your government didn't have an idea of what it was doing.

The whole world is watching you. If you like pivot with the "all Nigerians are drug dealer" narrative. They are not buying it.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBpS_-Kq0uI&t=1591s



Hahaha. You are really slow. You didn't flood anyones country because you were deliberately kept in bantustans so you could be exploited for labor while the National government kept you isolated and without knowledge about the rest of the world educating you with a basic bantu education.

And this generation of yours are nothing comparable to real SOuth African fighters. You are a bunch of cry babies attacking poor people.

There a myriad of people fighting the government for a better Nigeria, simply because some choose too leave doesn't mean the fight is over. Did your comrades not run out of the country to fight another day.

Ps. I have never outright called a south african lazy so take that sensitive head of yours to tick tock for that nonsense.



Again there is no denial from my part that there are Nigerian drug syndicates that operate in South Africa. That is a problem for your government to resolve. Coming here crying to us will get you no where.


Noone should die of poisnous food nor be terrorized by criminals in their own country but your response is lawlessness so is not justified and please stop trying to sell the idea to us that 90% of the economic migrants are participants in these activities is propaganda.

Nobody demonizes you people, you've set a precedent in our country.. you are being judged by it.. nothing to do with "lacking exposure",here infact South Africa is probably one of the most cosmopolitan countries on the continent, all influences are right here on our doorstep.. So "lacking exposure" has nothing to do with calling BS out.

Why are not other countries driving you people away? I dont know, maybe they dont have balls or maybe they haven't reached boiling like we have but what I do know though is, whenever a country has a sizeable number of Nigerians, murmurs of discontent begin to grow.. as its happening in Kenya. Time will tell.

We will march to the parliament, we are an active citizenry afterall. Ramaphosa willll step down, he'll be found guilty of Phala Phala and yes the constitution is the cause of all these things, and we will march against illegal immigration and the general lawlessness..too.. I also dont think you're in a position to tell us which activism to partake on.. you've rarely lifted a finger in fighting systems that have kept Nigeria one of the most regressive countries on the continent, I think you should let us worry about Ramaphosa and the constitution.. your plate is full.

Yes, with all our "xenophobia" we still somehow found a way to integrate these people into our communities and our government was clearly buying into this pan-Africanism BS that many of you are blackmailing us with today.. it hasnt worked, its not working, we are suffocated, We are tired, we are fed -up..the good thing though is that we are "crybabies" in our country.. not bothering others with theirs, maybe you should take notes and stop forcing yourselves into places than don't want to you and come here to whine about it.

Continue crying about the supposed "ill treatment" of the "poor helpless African" while turning a blind eye to many murders that happen to South Africans in the hands of foreigners.. calling it "excuses".

The world can watch Seppuku, I hardly care, in the end they wont do anything! they can watch as they were watching when'"Ghana must go" was in full swing in your Nigeria, they can watch like they are watching now as the rampant tribalism and Christian killings continue unbated in your country.

How does a Bantustan stops someone from fleeing? Was there a metal dome encompassing all Bantustans that prevented movement to escape or am I missing something? Seems you're the slow one here...Here's the thing, when someone is under bondage they will always find a way to runaway from that place, people find a way to flee the heavily-guarded North Korea to the nearby prosperous South Korea all the time. we never flooded even the nearby Zim and Namibia, so dont tell me about "Bantustans", also history was taught under bantu education, so the notion that people living in Bantustans were somehow bereft of any knowledge of the world is nonsense

We are simply not wired like that, we are not runners..even now there's a lot of hardship, a lot of unemployment.. and we're still not flooding anyone's country like that.. we're not chasing that UK visa trying to be "British South Africans".

You might not have personally called us "lazy"per se, but you always slyly insinuate it, eg. your favorite."driinking beer in the sheebens, "waiting for government hand outs", etc ' it's the number one hit-song of your people and your favorite word, even your intelligentsia who've never even set foot in SA, casually call us the "lazy people" what is it based on? only "hardworking" Nigerians know

Playing down the very lived experiences of South Africans calling them "excuses" is akin to denial, dont try play the games at both ends.. Those Nigerian drug syndicates keep flourishing because the government is inept in dealing with the situation hence you see people taking matters to their hands..

I dont come here to cry.. I respond to your daily whines of "xenophobia" virtually on every thread.

At no point did I claim that 90% was behind everything..please stop flogging this horse..

Lawlessness begets lawlessness Seppuku, its the only language you know ..and since our government is sleeping on the wheel, we only have ourselves

IronGalaxy:
Nope.. the law doesn't allow for the dehumanizing of anyone, no law does..However our laws also dont allow for your drug and human trafficking, your rapes, ATM bombings, scams, infrastructure vandalizing ...It goes both ways, respect the laws of the country and it won't get nasty.. its that simple really

There are white immigrants in SA that's for sure.. but I have not seen a white immigrant, snatching phones in downtown joburg, hijacking, bombing ATMS, removing an entire traffic light in broad light, hijacking people, terrotizing mining communities, installing unknown kings here, etc.. People react to what they see time and time again.. they see patterns and they see African immigrants doing these things so why would they go and vent their anger on white immigrants?

Fighting black or illegal immigrants? Fighting illegal immigration and Lawless migrants which most of the time happen to be black.. sorry.

Land ownership has nothing to do with the topic discussed

"the law doesn't allow for the dehumanizing of anyone, no law does." Good response.

No body is stopping you from tracking criminal elements and persecute them according to the law, every country would do same. Don't just go around harassing people without verifying Thier status.

Like I said, how did this people get into SA in the first place, and how did they remained? That should be the questions SAs should be asking. Going about harassing people on the street is barbaric and xenophobic.

The US has one of the biggest issues of illegal and criminal immigrants in the world, but US don't go around dehumanising every foreigner they find on the street.


Claiming there's no white foreigners flaunting SA laws is lying with confidence. Why not stop them on the streets and ask them if they have legal documents or not. If you can't do this and you're been selective with your treatment, then you're hateful and xenophobic.

You're attacking people based on assumptions and past mistakes of others

iceking4:
"the law doesn't allow for the dehumanizing of anyone, no law does." Good response.

No body is stopping you from tracking criminal elements and persecute them according to the law, every country would do same. Don't just go around harassing people without verifying Thier status.

Like I said, how did this people get into SA in the first place, and how did they remained? That should be the questions SAs should be asking. Going about harassing people on the street is barbaric and xenophobic.

The US has one of the biggest issues of illegal and criminal immigrants in the world, but US don't go around dehumanising every foreigner they find on the street.


Claiming there's no white foreigners flaunting SA laws is lying with confidence Why not stop them on the streets and ask them if they have legal documents or not. If you can't do this and you're been selective with your treatment, then you're hateful and xenophobic.

You're attacking people based on assumptions and past mistakes of others

Please don't put words in my mouth.. if you dont understand, you can go read up again, im definitely not repeating myself

IronGalaxy:
Nobody demonizes you people, you've set a precedent in our country.. you are being judged by it.. nothing to do with "lacking exposure",here infact South Africa is probably one of the most cosmopolitan countries on the continent, all influences are right here on our doorstep.. So "lacking exposure" has nothing to do with calling BS out.

Why are not other countries driving you people away? I dont know, maybe they dont have balls or maybe they haven't reached boiling like we have but what I do know though is, whenever a country has a sizeable number of Nigerians, murmurs of discontent begin to grow.. as its happening in Kenya. Time will tell.

We will march to the parliament, we are an active citizenry afterall. Ramaphosa willll step down, he'll be found guilty of Phala Phala and yes the constitution is the cause of all these things, and we will march against illegal immigration and the general lawlessness..too.. I also dont think you're in a position to tell us which activism to partake on.. you've rarely lifted a finger in fighting systems that have kept Nigeria one of the most regressive countries on the continent, I think you should let us worry about Ramaphosa and the constitution.. your plate is full.

Yes, with all our "xenophobia" we still somehow found a way to integrate these people into our communities and our government was clearly buying into this pan-Africanism BS that many of you are blackmailing us with today.. it hasnt worked, its not working, we are suffocated, We are tired, we are fed -up..the good thing though is that we are "crybabies" in our country.. not bothering others with theirs, maybe you should take notes and stop forcing yourselves into places than don't want to you and come here to whine about it.

Continue crying about the supposed "ill treatment" of the "poor helpless African" while turning a blind eye to many murders that happen to South Africans in the hands of foreigners.. calling it "excuses".

The world can watch Seppuku, I hardly care, in the end they wont do anything! they can watch as they were watching when'"Ghana must go" was in full swing in your Nigeria, they can watch like they are watching now as the rampant tribalism and Christian killings continue unbated in your country.

How does a Bantustan stops someone from fleeing? Was there a metal dome encompassing all Bantustans that prevented movement to escape or am I missing something? Seems you're the slow one here...Here's the thing, when someone is under bondage they will always find a way to runaway from that place, people find a way to flee the heavily-guarded North Korea to the nearby prosperous South Korea all the time. we never flooded even the nearby Zim and Namibia, so dont tell me about "Bantustans", also history was taught under bantu education, so the notion that people living in Bantustans were somehow bereft of any knowledge of the world is nonsense

We are simply not wired like that, we are not runners..even now there's a lot of hardship, a lot of unemployment.. and we're still not flooding anyone's country like that.. we're not chasing that UK visa trying to be "British South Africans".

You might not have personally called us "lazy"per se, but you always slyly insinuate it, eg. your favorite."driinking beer in the sheebens, "waiting for government hand outs", etc ' it's the number one hit-song of your people and your favorite word, even your intelligentsia who've never even set foot in SA, casually call us the "lazy people" what is it based on? only "hardworking" Nigerians know

Playing down the very lived experiences of South Africans calling them "excuses" is akin to denial, dont try play the games at both ends.. Those Nigerian drug syndicates keep flourishing because the government is inept in dealing with the situation hence you see people taking matters to their hands..

I dont come here to cry.. I respond to your daily whines of "xenophobia" virtually on every thread.

At no point did I claim that 90% was behind everything..please stop flogging this horse..

Lawlessness begets lawlessness Seppuku, its the only language you know ..and since our government is sleeping on the wheel, we only have ourselves

Like you pointed out a few posts ago, have the last word. Here on nairaland we try to be nice to our guests.

seppuku:
Like you pointed out a few posts ago, have the last word. Here on nairaland we try to be nice to our guests.

I'll infact let one of your own to have the last word

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpl818C_ZJ4&list=LL&index=1&pp=iAQBsAgC

IronGalaxy:
I'll infact let one of your own to have the last word

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpl818C_ZJ4&list=LL&index=1&pp=iAQBsAgC

Eh Mfethu you are hard of hearing neh. I am not a supporter of youtubers who post sensationalized videos about xenophobic killings of nigerians using old footage or sob stories to garner views nor do I have time for your "nigerian vs south africa" who's D**K is bigger contest.

A quick 5 mins of listening to that lady informs me that she has a couple of screws loose in the upstairs.

Watch real videos of real situations on ground posted by your own people

Just listen to the rhetoric and convince us this is not xenophobia.

The totsi Thabo Moektsi said we are "pure" South Africans, not "mixed". What is he implying?SMH

The highly intellectual Jacinta said "infestation" of people. Like cockroaches eh!, meanwhile there are old videos of her circulating about wanting to date a nigerian. hmm?

Shame you are in denial about your "patriots"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy6Jwe7WmUk&t=208s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQltUoi2U3E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4499mLk--eI&t=173s

More so called "gas lighting"

Such brave South Africans. They remind so much of the Steven Bikos, Tokyo Sexwale's


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK1KzwkwFp8&t=136s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLZRI_uIfls

seppuku:
Eh Mfethu you are hard of hearing neh. I am not a supporter of youtubers who post sensationalized videos about xenophobic killings of nigerians using old footage or sob stories to garner views nor do I have time for your "nigerian vs south africa" who's D**K is bigger contest.

A quick 5 mins of listening to that lady informs me that she has a couple of screws loose in the upstairs.

Watch real videos of real situations on ground posted by your own people

Just listen to the rhetoric and convince us this is not xenophobia.

The totsi Thabo Moektsi said we are "pure" South Africans, not "mixed". What is he implying?SMH

The highly intellectual Jacinta said "infestation" of people. Like cockroaches eh!, meanwhile there are old videos of her circulating about wanting to date a nigerian. hmm?

Shame you are in denial about your "patriots"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy6Jwe7WmUk&t=208s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQltUoi2U3E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4499mLk--eI&t=173s

I thought you were letting me have "last word"? What happened?

Why is the focus is on the lady and not the honest Nigerian man who's been living in SA for 18 years , why not tackle his points because he's echoing the very same things I wast talking about? You're calling it "dic measuring" because he's raising points you don't wanna hear.. you're such a dishonest person..

We are being called names daily by foreigners, the minute we do the same its "xenophobia "right?

You can keep denying, speculating, gaslighting and deflecting.. you know the truth about what's really happeing here, you refuse to accept it.

IronGalaxy:
I thought you were letting me have "last word"? What happened?

Couldn't let you slide on misrepresenting me.

IronGalaxy:
Why is the focus is on the lady and not the honest Nigerian man who's been living in SA for 18 years , why not tackle his points because he's echoing the very same things I wast talking about? You're calling it "dic measuring" because he's raising points you don't wanna hear.. you're such a dishonest person..

Because its beyond "the Nigerian redherring" and you know it. Suspend that argument and all you have left is xenophobia.

IronGalaxy:
We are being called names daily by foreigners, the minute we do the same its "xenophobia "right?

You can keep denying, speculating, gaslighting and deflecting.. you know the truth about what's really happeing here, you refuse to accept it.

Like I said you guys are in your emotions. Nigerians are called all sorts of names on social media and around the world as well from and you don't see us attacking anyone in such a manner. In fact, the other day the Kenyan president just took a jab at us for the way we speak English compared to them and did we go all crazy about it? Cameroonians call us all kinds of names on their online T.V shows, Do you see us attacking any of them. ONLY the SOUTH AFRICA can't take it eh!

You need to face the fact that your people have some serious "psychological" issues and a whole lot of trauma going on in their beings and need serious healing before you do something that we all will regret.

seppuku:
Couldn't let you slide on misrepresenting me.



Because its beyond "the Nigerian redherring" and you know it. Suspend that argument and all you have left is xenophobia.



Like I said you guys are in your emotions. Nigerians are called all sorts of names on social media and around the world as well from and you don't see us attacking anyone in such a manner. In fact, the other day the Kenyan president just took a jab at us for the way we speak English compared to them and did we go all crazy about it? Cameroonians call us all kinds of names on their online T.V shows, Do you see us attacking any of them. ONLY the SOUTH AFRICA can't take it eh!

You need to face the fact that your people have some serious "psychological" issues and a whole lot of trauma going on in their beings and need serious healing before you do something that we all will regret.

Lol, if its not "white monopoly capital, its apartheid trauma, if it ain't that, its "jealousy or your favorite "laziness" if it's not this its outerspace aliens... everything under the sun to avoid the fact Yall just a problem in our country
.Love how this honest Nigerian puts it, and he's right on the money..

IronGalaxy:
Lol, if its not "white monopoly capital, its apartheid trauma, if it ain't that, its "jealousy or your favorite "laziness" if it's not this its outerspace aliens... everything under the sun to avoid the fact Yall just a problem in our country
.Love how this honest Nigerian puts it, and he's right on the money..

You should know by now that Nigerians and accountability are two parallel railway platform that will never meet.