₦airaland Forum

Fatneighbor20:
This will lead to late presentation at the hospital..
Leading to more deaths from complications.. cause pharmacists I know will never refer you to a specialist. Cause they don’t want to feel less..

I think this is a mistake by the federal government

True.

akingangan:
Tinubu is the best president in the history of Nigeria so far

May your current quality of life be your best till death. Amen

Jman06:
How many Pharmacists do you know? You think pharmacists are like you medical doctors that claim monopoly of medical knowledge even with just your MBBS? Pharmacists know their scope and usually don't go beyond that. It is Nigerian medical doctors that are known for usurpation of professional responsibilities of others.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 wannabe doctors, what is the difference between what ever is up there and what community health guys are already doing.
Primary care has its ogas already public health physician/consultants and community health workers.
Una wan do wuru wuru enter convo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dpharmacist:
Source: https://www.sunnewsonline.com/stakeholders-endorse-new-framework-for-community-pharmacy-practice/

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After the doctor name has been bastardised na consultant this nonentities want bastardised next.
Kwansultant to be consulting drug mixing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Just killing innocent Nigerians with stupid pride

FreeStuffsNG:
Pharmacists are Doctors too. There is Doctor of Pharmacy. You probably mean the Doctors with MBBS Bachelor degrees.

The only Proper Doctors are those with PhDs.

This is a pragmatic way for government to tap into the huge opportunity the Community Pharmacists offer them on a platter to improve public health.

Even healthcare proffessionals do not go to the hospital first. They visit the Community Pharmacists and seek his expert advice sometimes codedly though.

There is a Federal Minister who took advantage of this kind of opportunity currently available in the UK to become a Prescribing Consultant Pharmacist today yet UK has more orthodox healthcare professionals more than us.

We are just catching up with this huge reality that we are underutilizing scarce resources and everyone is paying for it.

Only the Pharmacists are the closest healthcare professionals to those who seek healthcare services everywhere in the world. If you tie the hands of Pharmscists in Nigeria out of envy, you are doing yourself and your own nation albeit you can not tie their hands. Many will even japa than to have their hands tied while those in Nigeria will not be affected if you want the status quo. They will still get paid but for doing less of what their colleagues in UK, US etc do.

This is the most pragmatic and smartest health policy to ever be proposed in Nigeria. Every patriotic Nigerian needs to support it .

God bless Nigeria.

Am not a Doctor, just working in the health Sector. The truth is that no one is happy about the undue monopoly of medical doctors across the health sector. Just recently they pushed a bill to harmonize all the health care associations under NMA. The major reason they are successful in their game of monopoly and dominance is lack of unity among other health care professionals, for me dragging of the doctor title with them isn't relevant. But making sure that their excess are kept in check, if all the health care professionals continue being selfish in their agenda, then it will be a field day for the monopolists.

Jman06:
How many Pharmacists do you know? You think pharmacists are like you medical doctors that claim monopoly of medical knowledge even with just your MBBS? Pharmacists know their scope and usually don't go beyond that. It is Nigerian medical doctors that are known for usurpation of professional responsibilities of others.

Nigerian doctors are trained to call for help.. in some cases first thing to do is to call for help. Or refer..

Expect Is a surgical problem have you ever seen any pharmacist telling a patient to go see a doctor

Harrybanty:
I'm a Doctor, and please anything to reduce our workload, make una do am.
But sha have sense to refer cases you can't handle and fast .

Sir, This is correct. This evening I was sharing what happened few days ago at our place to a friend. We saw a colleague give stethoscope to a patient. Later we asked him what happened, He explained that the guy never allowed him to his job, he was the one diagnosing himself with investigations to run and saying all these shits he got to know probably via AIs and he guessed he probably had some knowledge in Microbiology and he wouldn't let him talk. He said prior to this, the guy only allowed him do few physical exams
Baba said he asked him, 'Why then do you have to come to me when you know all these, you could have had the investigations done in all these private laboratories in the town, give AI to explain it to you, go visit any of these pharmacies or chemists and you're done, drugs! Drugs!! As in here, And you're fine. Then reiterated it to him he was joking and not a medical advice over and over to him again. He then continued "Just take the stethoscope, you are already a doctor (off record)". He said what the guy never knew was his condition was heart related from the cardiac (heart) sounds he got during the physical exams. So he knew within himself the guy was a complication waiting to explode. So he allowed him do oversabi, filled a pt refusal form and leave. Cut his voice record because the guy could be interested in litigation when his cardiac condition is well blown and have the record saved.

Most times people are funny. Just imagine, what happens to customers that usually think they can overdo their service providers especially handiworks e.g mechanic, builders, contractors etc, they end up being a victim.

Just imagine if this same patient have gone through all those above routes, AIs will collect money in form of data, private lab go chop their own, pharmacies self nor go carry last. Are they to be blamed? No, they did their jobs, you presented yourself to them and it is your right to have such choices. The hospital self nor carry last for benefits, you know why? Unnecessary workload doesn't have to come that day. But at the end, if complications arise, hospitals will now have enough time to eat to satisfaction and it wouldn't even be sure the same patient will survive. Something that most times, when caught early will have been a work over to the health management team. Who lost? Put your family on unnecessary financial burdens even after you're gone! The spouse and children may now be subjected to all kinds of life horrors. Very wicked soul

This is why on nairaland, I hardly post anything regarding those looking for diagnosis here. Is nairaland a hospital? I will rather give money to those actively been taken care of in a hospital but because of a financial challenge, couldn't meet up. The doctor will still be paid whether you come to hospital or not. Forget it, complications from different areas will still flood in and bring money to hospitals, the pharmacies will get their cash, the chemist will sell his or her mixtures and get paid, the AI will have more users and even learn more through you. Everyone gets money along the chain. Smart people. Who suffers it most? MBBS (Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery) don't need advertisement whether you like it or not. It is a club. You're in, you're in with nothing to lose at the end in the chain. Do your work within the limit of medical ethics, conscience and framework of the law. I was never bittered on it when I wasn't in. When it was time, God made it happened and still grateful for it. For the opportunity to serve humanity. But humanity should give itself sense too.

Why lose when you're the one to suffer the most?

Please this is a welcome development. We love it. Reduce the workload. God bless your profession. Ride on man.

Chikarata2020:
Am not a Doctor, just working in the health Sector. The truth is that no one is happy about the undue monopoly of medical doctors across the health sector. Just recently they pushed a bill to harmonize all the health care associations under NMA. The major reason they are successful in their game of monopoly and dominance is lack of unity among other health care professionals, for me dragging of the doctor title with them isn't relevant. But making sure that their excess are kept in check, if all the health care professionals continue being selfish in their agenda, then it will be a field day for the monopolists.

The monopoly and dominance of what? This is something I keep asking everyone even physically. Because till now, I never understand that thing cos everyone comes to work daily, do their jobs in the respective enclosures and offices. So why can't everyone continues to do their jobs as specified and let the patients be happy since they're employed for them.

I think they probably wanted to bring all these allied health sciences then under MDCN supervision so that they kind of cut of unnecessary proliferation of bodies. I think this was the news, I doubt your submission but can check it up online.

Now, Generally speaking, it is in human psychology the sanctity of Medicine. The Law, the Clergy, the teacher and the Physician are something entrenched in the core of the society that it is difficult to take away in terms of reference and honour. Even before the introduction of "Dr" title that most want to die on, these four have always been respected. If you take the titles away, they will still. I don't use the title 'Dr' and never planned using it except it shows in formal documents but I can tell you the respect comes no matter how humble I want to be. In fact I hide my identity most times. Who titles help abeg. Moreso, you could be Dr of anything, but will the title make one a medical doctor? A physician? Or a surgeon? If anyone wants these, pick UTME, read Medicine and Surgery and go after it. It is something anyone can do once they can spend the time and are dedicated. It's that simple. I've seen elderly people who still do this to fulfill the call. I did. Why then do one need to think they need to tear a house down to build their own. It's irrational and a personality disorders; there are arrays of them in psychiatry, not necessarily does one need to walk naked on the streets.

Sometimes as Africans I wonder how we arrived here. Even the Whites who brought all these jargons are not so crazy about it in their countries. Everyone knows their places and keep to it.

Make everyone just do their jobs in their places, make the patients happy and go home to meet their families.