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Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Oakenshield: 3:42pm On Apr 29
obiekunie01:
Any one of them alive today is bc Trump saved the terrorist's life.

Trump still want to have people to discuss with that's why he stopped IDF from sending them to their scarce virgins.

But their time is running out. IDF will resume second week of may.




WE LOVE DONALD TRUMP AND NATHANYAHU NWA ANYAWU!
I think by now all the terrorist have been allocated their virgins and fresh ones are being prepped for newbies
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by gaskiyamagana: 3:50pm On Apr 29
obiekunie01:
Any one of them alive today is bc Trump saved the terrorist's life.

Trump still want to have people to discuss with that's why he stopped IDF from sending them to their scarce virgins.

But their time is running out. IDF will resume second week of may.




WE LOVE DONALD TRUMP AND NATHANYAHU NWA ANYAWU!
Fantasy, fallacy and face saving withdrawal to deceive online beer parlour US marine like you.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by gaskiyamagana: 3:51pm On Apr 29
Oakenshield:
I think by now all the terrorist have been allocated their virgins and fresh ones are being prepped for newbies
You mean those described in Songs of Solomon? Who no like better thing?
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by shoodboi2: 3:56pm On Apr 29
Amalekki:
It's your fault you messed up your room with foul odour & you somehow managed to convince yourself that your pungent smell was from the internet, oh lawdy tidy up dude grin grin 🤡
Tell dad to tidy up. If you’re smelling rotten eggs, it’s probably from mom’s coochie. Run along fart boy.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by gaskiyamagana: 3:56pm On Apr 29
Originalsly:
Nigerians and Zionists are the only people I know of that are supporting Israel and the US in this war. US citizens are overwhelmingly against the actions of Trump and his administration....We can check You Tube. On ground .... is OK to fly Palestinian flag or Iran flag .... but Israeli flag? ... you're on your own.

The Ayatollah has prevented Iran from having nuclear weapons ... he was killed. The fear amongst US military and CIA people was if his son will now permit the development of nuclear weapons. He did not. The US is well prepared for conventional warfare.... 20th century war ....Iran is 21st century war ready .
What do you expect? No be so dem and their flenty governors they follow, shouting, decamping and dancing to APCheat for another four years of calamity despite shege dem they are facing now?
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Amalekki: 3:58pm On Apr 29
shoodboi2:
Tell dad to tidy up. If you’re smelling rotten eggs, it’s probably from mom’s coochie. Run along fart boy.
You stink, your room stink. It's straight from the horse's mouth, now your attitude stinks as you clearly have no respect for your parents, that's why you are setting them up for insulrs but I won't indulge you. Tueh cool
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Inosky: 4:08pm On Apr 29
Razzness:
If the US is not careful, Iran will emerge from this war a world power.
The leverage Iran has over the entire world is not moi-moi, o. Just imagine fuel went from N790 to N1300 in less than 2 months. Even though Iran's military is no match for the US and Israel, they find themselves in a strategic position that has forced the US and Israel to exercise a level of restraint we have never seen from them before. The US almost never does a cease-fire. If they commit to a war, they usually see it through even if it takes several years. But with Iran the stakes are too high; that's why they negotiated a ceasefire and even extended it when Iran refused to capitulate.

Imagine if Ukraine had similar leverage over the global economy; the world would not have sat back and allowed Russia to pound them like this. But because the war does not affect anybody outside of Ukraine, everybody is just sympathizing with Ukraine from a distance. Now with Iran, the story is very different; everybody is feeling it.

There is simply no easy way out for Trump here; if you continue negotiating, Iran continues to play hardball. If you continue the blockade, oil prices and global inflation keep rising. If you agree to Iran's ceasefire term, America becomes humiliated. If you send in ground troops, many American soldiers will be lost. If you bomb their power plants and bridges, they will bomb the bridges and power plants of countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Kuwait that have been paying you billions for protection. If you withdraw, they will become emboldened and continue with whatever they are doing. Trump must chew one of these bitter pills.
I guess extending the ceasefire is a less bitter pill.
Trump will not remove the blockade till Iranian economy is destroyed totally, that's if they don't want to comply. Maybe the people there will start fighting their government to comply due to intense suffering and poverty.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by shoodboi2: 4:09pm On Apr 29
Amalekki:
You stink, your room stink. It's straight from the horse's mouth, now your attitude stinks as you clearly have no respect for your parents, that's why you are setting them up for insulrs but I won't indulge you. Tueh cool
You shouldn’t have indulged me in the first place. Your very first response to my comment was an insult. You had it coming. Now run along.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Leepeak(m): 4:14pm On Apr 29
By innocent odoh
Nothing to talk
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Shikena(m): 4:18pm On Apr 29
X
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Mumuismumu(m): 4:21pm On Apr 29
Senseless talk!! It beats my imagination to believe that people still type senselessly.
Razzness:
If the US is not careful, Iran will emerge from this war a world power.
The leverage Iran has over the entire world is not moi-moi, o. Just imagine fuel went from N790 to N1300 in less than 2 months. Even though Iran's military is no match for the US and Israel, they find themselves in a strategic position that has forced the US and Israel to exercise a level of restraint we have never seen from them before. The US almost never does a cease-fire. If they commit to a war, they usually see it through even if it takes several years. But with Iran the stakes are too high; that's why they negotiated a ceasefire and even extended it when Iran refused to capitulate.

Imagine if Ukraine had similar leverage over the global economy; the world would not have sat back and allowed Russia to pound them like this. But because the war does not affect anybody outside of Ukraine, everybody is just sympathizing with Ukraine from a distance. Now with Iran, the story is very different; everybody is feeling it.

There is simply no easy way out for Trump here; if you continue negotiating, Iran continues to play hardball. If you continue the blockade, oil prices and global inflation keep rising. If you agree to Iran's ceasefire term, America becomes humiliated. If you send in ground troops, many American soldiers will be lost. If you bomb their power plants and bridges, they will bomb the bridges and power plants of countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Kuwait that have been paying you billions for protection. If you withdraw, they will become emboldened and continue with whatever they are doing. Trump must chew one of these bitter pills.
I guess extending the ceasefire is a less bitter pill.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by donmik: 4:49pm On Apr 29
I
FreeStuffsNG:
Smh.

Ignorant propaganda report.

The Supreme Leader has given a marching order to them. His words are "US Must Pay For The Deaths & Destruction Brought Upon Iran".
IRGC is only following orders.


Iran Supreme Leader Says Iran Determined To "Take Revenge" For Slain Father
https://www.nairaland.com/8650894/iran-supreme-leader-says-iran
This is not news from their running mouth

People Trump is onlt managing their existence
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Razzness(m): 5:42pm On Apr 29
And it beats my imagination even more that there are people that think Iran will surrender to the US. At this very moment, I am watching the congressional review of the US Congress on the US military budget live. Pete Hegseth has been a show of shame; General Dan Caine has been very professional. It is increasingly clear that there is no off-ramp for the US here, and I am incredibly amazed at how much the US Congress acknowledges this, but someone sitting in the comfort of his parlor in Abakaliki thinks otherwise.

Mumuismumu:
Senseless talk!! It beats my imagination to believe that people still type senselessly.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by malakaimoscondo: 6:02pm On Apr 29
obiekunie01:
Any one of them alive today is bc Trump saved the terrorist's life.

Trump still want to have people to discuss with that's why he stopped IDF from sending them to their scarce virgins.

But their time is running out. IDF will resume second week of may.



Omuzzzzoor well said
WE LOVE DONALD TRUMP AND NATHANYAHU NWA ANYAWU!
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by ayusco85(m): 6:45pm On Apr 29
safariman:
You guys need to go and learn the history of the Persians
As if it's not humans that write said history
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Julius1995(m): 7:07pm On Apr 29
Relax dude. That is not how country just emerge as world power. Country dont emerge as world power by using propaganda tools. Oh! I forget, the propaganda tools like Facebook was invented by a Jew (Mark Zuckerberg), in a country (U.S.A). You need money, systems, technology, education and financial system, real weaponry (nuclear weapon is important), to emerge as world power. This thing is a simple truth, but I'm sure you people is not looking for simple truth.
Razzness:
If the US is not careful, Iran will emerge from this war a world power.
The leverage Iran has over the entire world is not moi-moi, o. Just imagine fuel went from N790 to N1300 in less than 2 months. Even though Iran's military is no match for the US and Israel, they find themselves in a strategic position that has forced the US and Israel to exercise a level of restraint we have never seen from them before. The US almost never does a cease-fire. If they commit to a war, they usually see it through even if it takes several years. But with Iran the stakes are too high; that's why they negotiated a ceasefire and even extended it when Iran refused to capitulate.

Imagine if Ukraine had similar leverage over the global economy; the world would not have sat back and allowed Russia to pound them like this. But because the war does not affect anybody outside of Ukraine, everybody is just sympathizing with Ukraine from a distance. Now with Iran, the story is very different; everybody is feeling it.

There is simply no easy way out for Trump here; if you continue negotiating, Iran continues to play hardball. If you continue the blockade, oil prices and global inflation keep rising. If you agree to Iran's ceasefire term, America becomes humiliated. If you send in ground troops, many American soldiers will be lost. If you bomb their power plants and bridges, they will bomb the bridges and power plants of countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Kuwait that have been paying you billions for protection. If you withdraw, they will become emboldened and continue with whatever they are doing. Trump must chew one of these bitter pills.
I guess extending the ceasefire is a less bitter pill.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by UrVillageChief: 7:20pm On Apr 29
Razzness:
If the US is not careful, Iran will emerge from this war a world power..
I thought there was a thread on this forum about how Iran was already considered a world power for dealing with the US, why are you saying they will emerge from this as a world power again?
You are confusing us o🤣
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Tochi360: 8:30pm On Apr 29
FreeStuffsNG:
Smh.

Ignorant propaganda report.

The Supreme Leader has given a marching order to them. His words are "US Must Pay For The Deaths & Destruction Brought Upon Iran".
IRGC is only following orders.


Iran Supreme Leader Says Iran Determined To "Take Revenge" For Slain Father
https://www.nairaland.com/8650894/iran-supreme-leader-says-iran
What is this Apc zombie talking.
The Oga pkatapkata in Iran was killed so easy.
More than 3k people have been killed already and you still here capping dust??.

Truly it is easier to see a pkanla fish challange an eagle in a flying contest than to find an apc supporter with sense grin

FACE YOUR COUNTRY shameless headless mob of the disaster terrorist govt.

Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Akpan107(m): 9:31pm On Apr 29
obiekunie01:
Any one of them alive today is bc Trump saved the terrorist's life.

Trump still want to have people to discuss with that's why he stopped IDF from sending them to their scarce virgins.

But their time is running out. IDF will resume second week of may.




WE LOVE DONALD TRUMP AND NATHANYAHU NWA ANYAWU!
You are right.

God bless you.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Akpan107(m): 9:34pm On Apr 29
FreeStuffsNG:
Smh.

Ignorant propaganda report.

The Supreme Leader has given a marching order to them. His words are "US Must Pay For The Deaths & Destruction Brought Upon Iran".
IRGC is only following orders.


Iran Supreme Leader Says Iran Determined To "Take Revenge" For Slain Father
https://www.nairaland.com/8650894/iran-supreme-leader-says-iran
If the terrorist supreme leader actually determined to take revenge, why agreeing to a ceasefire?
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by opeldavid: 11:55pm On Apr 29
Abeggiiiii...

Make we hear word, which history?
Which Persian?

No be only Persian.

safariman:
You guys need to go and learn the history of the Persians
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by dederocs(m): 9:16am On Apr 30
INJESUSNAME:
After Oct 7 attacks on Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu promised that Israel would "change the face of the Middle East". The era of supreme leader seems to be ending.
Netanyahu is a brave warrior, he sure did.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Razzness(m): 10:41am On Apr 30
I am not saying they are a world power as it is. They are not even the strongest country in the Middle East as it is. But if for some reason, this current Iranian regime manages to survive this war, even if it's through a negotiated settlement, then they may well be on track. First of all, their newfound ability to disrupt the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz effectively means they can control 20% of the world's oil flow. That is not small; the US is at 21%.

Additionally, if they somehow survive, then there is no doubt that obtaining a nuclear weapon will be their next big objective. They have the money, technical know-how, and political will to develop one. I am not saying it will happen, but if it happens, a nuclear Iran with control of the flow of 20% of the world's energy is by all intent and purposes a world power.

Julius1995:
Relax dude. That is not how country just emerge as world power. Country dont emerge as world power by using propaganda tools. Oh! I forget, the propaganda tools like Facebook was invented by a Jew (Mark Zuckerberg), in a country (U.S.A). You need money, systems, technology, education and financial system, real weaponry (nuclear weapon is important), to emerge as world power. This thing is a simple truth, but I'm sure you people is not looking for simple truth.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Razzness(m): 10:48am On Apr 30
grin grin You don't seem to realize that a prolonged blockade would not only hurt the global economy but also all the Gulf allies of the US. Iran was never blockading the Strait of Hormuz to make money. At the start of the war, they stated clearly that their objective was to push oil prices to $200 per barrel, and with Trump's blockade, it had even risen faster. Today it's at $126. So for the Iranians, Trump is actually doing their job for them: pushing oil prices to unbearable figures.

Inosky:
Trump will not remove the blockade till Iranian economy is destroyed totally, that's if they don't want to comply. Maybe the people there will start fighting their government to comply due to intense suffering and poverty.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Razzness(m): 10:53am On Apr 30
Nobody said that, and anyone who did clearly does not know what it means to be called a world power. What is objectively true is that if this regime somehow manages to survive this onslaught from both the US and Israel, then they may well be on their way. With their newfound ability to control the flow of 20% of global energy, obtaining a nuclear weapon could effectively put them as a fourth center of world power, which will be their big objective if they somehow survive the war.

UrVillageChief:
I thought there was a thread on this forum about how Iran was already considered a world power for dealing with the US, why are you saying they will emerge from this as a world power again?
You are confusing us o🤣
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Lordly13: 12:20pm On Apr 30
They started fighting amongst themselves already, chai Iran. cheesy cheesy
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by INJESUSNAME: 2:53pm On Apr 30
Razzness:
I am not saying they are a world power as it is. They are not even the strongest country in the Middle East as it is. But if for some reason, this current Iranian regime manages to survive this war, even if it's through a negotiated settlement, then they may well be on track. First of all, their newfound ability to disrupt the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz effectively means they can control 20% of the world's oil flow. That is not small; the US is at 21%.

Additionally, if they somehow survive, then there is no doubt that obtaining a nuclear weapon will be their next big objective. They have the money, technical know-how, and political will to develop one. I am not saying it will happen, but if it happens, a nuclear Iran with control of the flow of 20% of the world's energy is by all intent and purposes a world power.
The strait of Hormuz will soon become useless, there will be alternatives to the strait and Iran will be on its own. Israel and all the Arab countries Iran attacked won't allow it obtain nuclear power. It's like Iran downfall is inevitable.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by UrVillageChief: 4:04pm On Apr 30
Razzness:
Nobody said that, and anyone who did clearly does not know what it means to be called a world power.
Even you were shocked right?🤣
Well, there was one ridiculous thread about it on this very forum.
You must be silly for insinuating that I’m lying.
Are you saying both the Chicago Prof and those who voted and commented in support of the ridiculous claim were bots?

Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Razzness(m): 7:00pm On Apr 30
What you are saying is more like hope, not based on any factual reasoning.
The Strait of Hormuz will soon become useless? As in, will they be flying crude oil on airplanes, or will they build bridges over the sea?

"Israel and all the Arab countries Iran attacked won't allow it obtain nuclear power" What a joke. And what will they do to stop it? Bomb Iran? Netanyahu said he had wanted this war for 40 years, but never dared to do it on his own. Even in his wildest dreams, Netanyahu never dared to attack Iran without the help of the US.
And this war tells us why. Even with the US combined, Iran launched thousands of missiles and drones to not just Israel but also Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Israel, and Saudi Arabia at once. Now imagine all that firepower facing Israel alone without the help of the US.

INJESUSNAME:
The strait of Hormuz will soon become useless, there will be alternatives to the strait and Iran will be on its own. Israel and all the Arab countries Iran attacked won't allow it obtain nuclear power. It's like Iran downfall is inevitable.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Julius1995(m): 8:40pm On Apr 30
First is that you deviate from the key point I raised. Secondly, they did not survive this war due to their own ability, the greatest deterrence in this war to Trump, U.S., and Israel is not Iran's capability, it is outrage among their respective citizens and allies. Iran had already started using human shield. Thats in some ways, conceding defeat. On the Strait, you are right, but there are some key issues you deliberately ignored: one, the strategy is also counterproductive (i.e. U.S blocking the Iran port), two, the blockade hurt countries that are a little friendly to Iran (like China), than it hurt any country in the West. And you dont become a world power by blocking international waterway, do it too long, and you will draw the outrage of even the people supporting you. On money, Iran is not a wealthy country, and not after this war where they took a loss/damage of hundreds of billions. The biggest winner in the war is actually Israel. Because it will take some tims before Iran can stabilise.
Razzness:
I am not saying they are a world power as it is. They are not even the strongest country in the Middle East as it is. But if for some reason, this current Iranian regime manages to survive this war, even if it's through a negotiated settlement, then they may well be on track. First of all, their newfound ability to disrupt the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz effectively means they can control 20% of the world's oil flow. That is not small; the US is at 21%.

Additionally, if they somehow survive, then there is no doubt that obtaining a nuclear weapon will be their next big objective. They have the money, technical know-how, and political will to develop one. I am not saying it will happen, but if it happens, a nuclear Iran with control of the flow of 20% of the world's energy is by all intent and purposes a world power.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by INJESUSNAME: 9:48pm On Apr 30
Razzness:
What you are saying is more like hope, not based on any factual reasoning.
The Strait of Hormuz will soon become useless? As in, will they be flying crude oil on airplanes, or will they build bridges over the sea?

"Israel and all the Arab countries Iran attacked won't allow it obtain nuclear power" What a joke. And what will they do to stop it? Bomb Iran? Netanyahu said he had wanted this war for 40 years, but never dared to do it on his own. Even in his wildest dreams, Netanyahu never dared to attack Iran without the help of the US.
And this war tells us why. Even with the US combined, Iran launched thousands of missiles and drones to not just Israel but also Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Israel, and Saudi Arabia at once. Now imagine all that firepower facing Israel alone without the help of the US.
Don't mind me, just mark my words.
Re: Iran’s Guards Seize Wartime Power, Blunting Supreme Leader’s Role by Razzness(m): 8:58am On May 01
Currently holds the largest crude oil inventory in the world, estimated at nearly 1.4 billion barrels stored. So the idea that China is hurt by the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz is wishful thinking. And for China, anything that will distract the US and consume its resources is a welcome development.

You think Iran is not wealthy? They have the 3rd largest proven oil reserve in the world.
Moreover, if they manage to survive this war through a negotiated settlement, they will almost certainly get some form of sanction relief.

If this war ends without a regime change, Israel is undoubtedly the biggest loser. They will be leaving behind a vengeful, more motivated regime with the political will, technical know-how, and money to rebuild. All that Iran has lost, it will not take them more than 15 to 20 years to rebuild and restock it. And it is almost certain they will be more motivated to pursue a nuclear weapon than they were before. A nuclear Iran is a thought Israel cannot simply live with.

Julius1995:
First is that you deviate from the key point I raised. Secondly, they did not survive this war due to their own ability, the greatest deterrence in this war to Trump, U.S., and Israel is not Iran's capability, it is outrage among their respective citizens and allies. Iran had already started using human shield. Thats in some ways, conceding defeat. On the Strait, you are right, but there are some key issues you deliberately ignored: one, the strategy is also counterproductive (i.e. U.S blocking the Iran port), two, the blockade hurt countries that are a little friendly to Iran (like China), than it hurt any country in the West. And you dont become a world power by blocking international waterway, do it too long, and you will draw the outrage of even the people supporting you. On money, Iran is not a wealthy country, and not after this war where they took a loss/damage of hundreds of billions. The biggest winner in the war is actually Israel. Because it will take some tims before Iran can stabilise.
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