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IronGalaxy:
My guy, immerse yourself with South African history before you spew ignorance and inferiority. I corrected you when you claimed things were "built for us " and I asked you where were we when all of that was happening...you couldnt answer.Black South Africans conributed in physically building South Africa, contributing in both skilled and unskilled labour, this is documented even in the history books. Your entire reasoning is wired to the belief that black people cant do anything worthwhile.. and majority of you Nigerians think like this..

we are saying thesame thing. Manual and skilled labour initiated and supervised by the whites to build south africa. its just like the black Americans just that black Americans are not xenophobic. The American government won't tolerate such self-hate under any excuse u may think.

jaxxy:
we are saying thesame thing. Manual and skilled labour initiated and supervised by the whites to build south africa. its just like the black Americans just that black Americans are not xenophobic. The American government won't tolerate such self-hate under any excuse u may think.

hahaha. You said south africa was 'built by whites" and I'm saying it was a concerted effort.. not the same thing buddy.. say one thing and stick to it .. you're all over the place.
The American government literally has I.C.E. which targets immigrants and deports them... try another example

IronGalaxy:
hahaha. You said south africa was 'built by whites" and I'm saying it was a concerted effort.. not the same thing buddy.. say one thing and stick to it .. you're all over the place.
The American government literally has I.C.E. which targets immigrants and deports them... try another example

America targets illegal immigrants not twist the truth to support xenophobia.

Yes it's a collaborative effort but I'm saying the whites were the bosses during that period.

Anyways I'm not trying to hate on black South Africans but u guys need to do better and yes Nigeria also has her own tribal issues and needs to do better.

jaxxy:
America targets illegal immigrants not twist the truth to support xenophobia.

Yes it's a collaborative effort but I'm saying the whites were the bosses during that period.

Anyways I'm not trying to hate on black South Africans but u guys need to do better and yes Nigeria also has her own tribal issues and needs to do better.

Imagine being told we need to do better in our country.. yet nothing about Zim murderers, robbers, hijackers, Nigerians drug traffickers and them all. Why can't they do better and behave in other people'scountries?. its exactly this african hypocrisy that annoys me.

Who doesn't know that whites were "bosses" in that period?

IronGalaxy:
Imagine being told we need to do better in our country.. yet nothing about Zim murderers, robbers, hijackers, Nigerians drug traffickers and them all. Why can't they do better and behave in other people'scountries?. its exactly this african hypocrisy that annoys me.

Who doesn't know that whites were "bosses" in that period?

Those are criminals not black attacking blacks for no reasons and black South Africans cheering it.

Atleast the government frowns against tribal induced crimes and it is condemn generally not cheers on like ur Xenophobia.

jaxxy:
Those are criminals not black attacking blacks for no reasons and black South Africans cheering it.

Atleast the government frowns against tribal induced crimes and it is condemn generally not cheers on like ur Xenophobia.

In South Africa they don't know the difference btw criminals, Asylum seekers, economic migrants or foreign entrepreneurs,

It's all the same to them and their government secretly wants to see how far they can take this mess because they know they created a problem that they cannot fix so blame it on the "illegals".

jaxxy:
Those are criminals not black attacking blacks for no reasons and black South Africans cheering it.

Atleast the government frowns against tribal induced crimes and it is condemn generally not cheers on like ur Xenophobia.

Yet there's no mouth when those criminals are terrorizing South Africans in their country right? Where's the Nigerian government when Nigerians are busy flooding SA with drugs? Where are all your governments? Where's the Zim government when its people are budy committing all all sorts of shenanigans in SA? Yall crawl out of the woodwork to point fingers when we say "enough is enough"! Yall just hypocrites

jaxxy:
America targets illegal immigrants not twist the truth to support xenophobia.

Yes it's a collaborative effort but I'm saying the whites were the bosses during that period.

Anyways I'm not trying to hate on black South Africans but u guys need to do better and yes Nigeria also has her own tribal issues and needs to do better.

Don't mind Irongalaxy. The whites built that country and handed it down to them post Apartheid. The collaborative effort he is talking about is forced concentration camp labor that extracted mines from the ground.

They are just nostalgic about Apartheid era johannesburg when the whites controlled it and some of them moan about how better it was then compared to now with all the "illegals".

IronGalaxy:
Yet there's no mouth when those criminals are terrorizing South Africans in their country right? Where's the Nigerian government when Nigerians are busy flooding SA with drugs? Where are all your governments? Where the Zim government when its people are committing all all sorts of shenanigans in SA? Yall crawl pit of the woodwork to point fingers when we say "enough is enough"! Yall just hypocrites

You want the Nigerian government to send troops to come help you abahambe the drug dealers.

Eish, you people are cry babies eh!

seppuku:
Don't mind Irongalaxy. The whites built that country and handed it down to them post Apartheid. The collaborative effort he is talking about is forced concentration camp labor that extracted mines from the ground.

They are just nostalgic about Apartheid era johannesburg when the whites controlled it and some of them moan about how better it was then compared to now with all the "illegals".

Yet history says otherwise my friend.. books, simple internet search, your envy cannot and will never change our history..

IronGalaxy:
Yet history says otherwise my friend.. books, simple internet search, your envy cannot and will never change history..

So PW Botha and the national party "collaborated" with ya'll to build South Africa.

Right right, I believe you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2OD6ArWKgE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3sdNOXMoaQ

seppuku:
So PW Botha and the national party "collaborated" with ya'll to build South Africa.

Right right, I believe you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2OD6ArWKgE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3sdNOXMoaQ

Lol, something you don't do alone is a concerted effort... white south africans never built South Africa alone..
Its in recorded history.. youre literally arguing against history..
But then again, this is what you do

IronGalaxy:
Lol, something you don't do alone is a concerted effort... white south africans never built South Africa alone..
Its in recorded history.. youre literally arguing against history..
But then again, this is what you do

If you call "taring" the roads and providing the hard labor a concerted effort to "build" your country I guess you have an argument there but then again "slaves" built the coliseums in Rome so they too have an argument that they helped build Rome, no?

seppuku:
If you call "taring" the roads and providing the hard labor to "build" your country I guess you have an argument there but then again "slaves" built the coliseums in Rome so they too have an argument that they helped build Rome, no?

Let's ignore the fact that Black South Africans provided both the skilled and unskilled labour right?

Here's the thing, blueprints and execution are two side of the same coin, the two need each other to exist.. blueprints are useless without the execution to carry them out.. and you can't execute anything without a plan..

You're deliberately playing down the labour and contributions that non -white people made to push an agenda.. not surprising coming from an envious Nigerian

IronGalaxy:
Let's ignore the fact that Black South Africans provided both the skilled and unskilled labour right?

Here's the thing, blueprints and execution are two side of the same coin, the two need each other to exist.. blueprints are useless without the execution to carry them out.. and you can't execute anything without a plan..

You're deliberately playing down the labour and contributions that non -white people made to push an agenda.. not surprising coming from an envious Nigerian

The delusion of grandeur at your "contributions" are just to make you feel good about yourselves. Deep down you and I know what the truth is. You were a subserviant class in the grand scheme of things and thus cannot claim to be the master architects.

Now post Apartheid we can argue but prior, no!

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seppuku:
The delusion of grandeur at your "contributions" are just to make you feel good about yourselves. Deep down you and I know what the truth is. You were a subserviant class in the grand scheme of things and thus cannot claim to be the master architects.

Now post Apartheid we can argue but prior, no!

No no no.. that South Africa was built on the backs of black labour, blood and sweat, its a historical fact my friend. This is the truth, this is recorded..you're just wasting your morning trying to argue against the obvious.

You are clearly trying to deny legitimacy to black South African people in the making of their own country to make YOURSELF better..this is what it boils down to...you don't care about the facts

At no point did I claim we were "master Architects" so please don't put words in my mouth I'm simply busting this long standing Nigerian myth, that your beloved whites "built the country" and we were subsequently "bused in "like tenants after the work was done.. this is not how it happened

IronGalaxy:
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]No no no.. that South Africa was built on the backs of black labour, blood and sweat, its a historical fact my friend. This is the truth, this is recorded..you're just wasting your morning trying to argue against the obvious.

You are clearly trying to deny legitimacy to black South African people in the making of their own country to make YOURSELF better..this is what it boils down to...

At no point did I claim we were "master Architects" so please don't put words in my mouth I'm simply busting this long standing Nigerian myth, that your beloved whites "built the country" and we were subsequently "bused in "like tenants after the work was done.. this is not how it happened

Yes Yes Mfethu, we aware of how your Bantustans were allowed to "develop", building schools, Casinos etc for you but all at the behest of the "master architect"'. They allowed you build what they wanted you to build.

For all intent and purpose, they were the masters. If you like deflect all day by using the "jealous Nigerian" counter argument. It is what it is.

seppuku:
Yes Yes Mfethu, we aware of how your Bantustans were allowed to "develop", building schools, Casinos etc for you but all at the behest of the "master architect"'. They allowed you build what they wanted you to build.

For all intent and purpose, they were the masters. If you lie deflect all day by using the "jealous Nigerian" counter argument. It is what it is.

You're just doing what you do best at this point.. argue for arguing sakes..

Where did I lie? Point out what I said , that's not corroborated by historical facts..

IronGalaxy:
Yet there's no mouth when those criminals are terrorizing South Africans in their country right? Where's the Nigerian government when Nigerians are busy flooding SA with drugs? Where are all your governments? Where's the Zim government when its people are budy committing all all sorts of shenanigans in SA? Yall crawl out of the woodwork to point fingers when we say "enough is enough"! Yall just hypocrites

u have law enforcement stop xenophobia dude. This is not a discussion to drag on. u have no right to kill people because they are illegals or commit crimes. Let the courts and law enforcement handle judgment.

jaxxy:
u have law enforcement stop xenophobia dude. This is not a discussion to drag on. u have no right to kill people because they are illegals or commit crimes. Let the courts and law enforcement handle judgment.

Is the law enforcement doing it's job? Let's start there.. the problem with you people is you have all these opinions and suggestions, all this mouth yet you have no iota of clue what's happening on the ground.. absolutely no clue.. the best you can do is simply shut up..

IronGalaxy:
You're just doing what you do best at this point.. argue for arguing sakes..

Where did I lie? Point out what I said , that's not corroborated by historical facts..

You are "gerrymandering" the issue to fit your narrative.

If we are to follow your logic and historical fact checking, a lot of SADC citizens also helped "build" your country. If this is true, why are you abahambing them out of the cities they helped build.

IronGalaxy:
Is the law enforcement doing it's job? Let's start there.. thd problem with you people is you have all these opinions and suggestions, all this mouth yet you have no iota of clue what's happening on the ground..the best you can do is simply shut up..

u better talk to ur government. Let them deal with the issues like the US is doing even tho you south africans don't like trump. Stop xenophobia

IronGalaxy:
Is the law enforcement doing it's job? Let's start there.. the problem with you people is you have all these opinions and suggestions, all this mouth yet you have no iota of clue what's happening on the ground.. absolutely no clue.. the best you can do is simply shut up..

He is right. Your Law enforcement and government have failed you simply because they cannot run a government that is able to manage a constitution and laws which you are signatory to.

A lot of illegals in cape town. No noise from that side. Its telling.

seppuku:
He is right. Your Law enforcement and government have failed you simply because they cannot run a government that is able to manage a constitution and laws which you are signatory to.

A lot of illegals in cape town. No noise from that side. Its telling.

Interesting..how quickly you easily see the failures of foreign governments and their systems but never see the failures and behavior of your people in foreign countries. Classic hypocrisy from a hypocrite.

jaxxy:
u better talk to ur government. Let them deal with the issues like the US is doing even tho you south africans don't like trump. Stop xenophobia

we've been talking for years... where has it got us?

seppuku:
You are "gerrymandering" the issue to fit your narrative.

If we are to follow your logic and historical fact checking, a lot of SADC citizens also helped "build" your country. If this is true, why are you abahambing them out of the cities they helped build.

I asked a simple question, tha'ts yet to answered

Which part of what i said was a lie, and what did I say that's not corroborated by historical facts..

Youre busy, dilly dallying.. using big words for clout..

IronGalaxy:
we've been talking for years... where has it got us?

Xenophobia is same as racism STOP IT!

There is not excuse for racism or xenophobia. End the nonesense.

jaxxy:
Xenophobia is same as racism STOP IT!

There is not excuse for racism or xenophobia. End the nonesense.

I don't blame you for parroting these buzzwords.. you don't any better..lets rather listen to someone who has a clue.. this South African based Kenyan. Listen carefully

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amjnfkHa_UQ?si=GOtpq9yGTGqoyCwW

IronGalaxy:
I don't blame you for parroting these buzzwords.. you don't any better..lets rather listen to someone who has a clue.. this South African based Kenyan. Listen carefully

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amjnfkHa_UQ?si=GOtpq9yGTGqoyCwW

I have told u my final point on this matter unless u have a good excuse for racism or xenophobia which there isn't. Fix ur damn government and leave innocent foreigners alone.

even the ones who don't commit crimes are being attacked and killed and u want me to watch a damn video to explain what? Some dumb shiit?,

jaxxy:
I have told u my final point on this matter unless u have a good excuse for racism or xenophobia which there isn't. Fix ur damn government and leave innocent foreigners alone.

even the ones who don't commit crimes are being attacked and killed and u want me to watch a damn video to explain what? Some dumb shiit?,

You didn't listen, you are hellbent on being a victim right? Got it

IronGalaxy:
You didn't listen, you are hellbent on being a victim right? Got it

I just watched it and my view is if that Kenya guy goes to South Africa with valid documents and a decent job or business the frustrated South Africans who are xenophobic will end him.

Go and watch the videos online and see the people being attacked and killed. it's horrific.

I like south africans but I have no interest to vist a hateful country I don't care how beautiful it is. Let's keep doing our friendship online and on Instagram.