₦airaland Forum

Ishilove:
Can you expatiate?

planetx:
It was the white apartheid government that gave guns to both sides to kill each other by the thousands in the 90's

I will quote my old posts, but it was even more serious than what I wrote below. I followed the events on the news back then.

naptu2:
POST 1D

Diplomacy

Chief MKO Abiola was involved in many diplomatic engagements, both in aid of Nigeria’s foreign policy and also for his own causes and beliefs.

Abiola undertook a diplomatic trip to South Africa to mediate between Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi’s Inkatha Freedom Party and Dr Nelson Mandela’s African National Congress in the early 1990s. It was part of Nigeria’s efforts to help in ending the black on black violence that was rampant in South Africa in the early 1990s.

Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi is the president of the Inkatha Freedom Party (IFP) and a major chief of the Zulu Nation. Nelson Mandela was (at that time) the vice president of the ANC (he later became the president) and a member of the Xhosa Nation.

There was serious violence between supporters of the IFP and supporters of the ANC and between Zulus and Xhosas in the early 1990s (c1990-1993) after the collapse of Apartheid. Lots of people died in the clashes.

Nigeria, which had invested a lot into the anti-Apartheid struggle, was very concerned about these black on black clashes and President Babangida sent Professor Wole Soyinka and later Chief M.K.O Abiola to make peace between both parties.

Chief Buthelezi’s IFP later joined the ANC in a Government of National Unity and Chief Buthelezi was made a minister in Mandela’s government. I strongly suspect that this is one of the reasons that Mandela invited Abiola to his inauguration (Abiola’s presence angered Abacha).

I strongly suspect that the “sworn enemy” that Mandela was referring to in this piece was Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi.

Former South African President, Dr. Nelson Mandela, on Saturday night in Abuja dedicated his Pan African Broadcast Heritage Award (PABHA) to the memory of the acclaimed winner of the annulled June 12, 1993 Presidential election Chief M.K.O. Abiola, whom he described as a great Nigerian.

Mandela, who was represented by the South African President, Mr. Thabo Mbeki, currently on a visit to Nigeria, described how he first came into contact with the Abiola.

He said President Ibrahim Babangida sent Abiola to mediate and talk to Mandela to reconcile with a sworn enemy of the African National Congress (ANC), who then was working against the interest of the party’s success at the poll.

Mbeki did not name the “sworn enemy” of the ANC, but said the late politician had since become their friend. He said when Abiola arrived, he (Mbeki) tried to get the message from Babangida, but refused, insisting that he must deliver the message to Mandela personally. Mbeki said he then took Abiola to Mandela to personally deliver Babangida’s message.

Mbeki said Abiola later told a story of the black ant to describe how dangerous the “sworn enemy” was to the ANC.

He said though the black ant was small, it could wreak much havoc if it had access to one’s clothing. He quoted Abiola as saying that it was easier to take care of the black ant than to allow it to wreak havoc.

The South African President explained that the message from Abiola made the ANC reconcile with the “sworn enemy”.

https://allafrica.com/stories/200010030073.html


That was not Chief Abiola’s only international foray. He was involved in many causes around the world and he donated to many institutions around the world, especially in Africa and the Caribbean.

naptu2:
1994 crisis

The transition to democracy in South Africa was not smooth. There were all kinds of problems.

I have told you that there were serious clashes between the ANC of Nelson Mandela and their Xhosa supporters and the Inkatha Freedom Party of Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi and their Zulu supporters. Many people died. President Babangida had to send Chief MKO Abiola and later Professor Wole Soyinka to bring both sides together (Nigeria had invested too much in the liberation movements to see it scatter when victory was near).

If they give them the work, will they work? Noise

And someone will now tell me that the South Africa Government is not in support of this protest.
Infact they are the ones sponsoring the protest

naptu2:
I will quote my old posts, but it was even more serious than what I wrote below. I followed the events on the news back then.

MR MAN, Y DO U LIKE TO FIGHT WITH MY POST AND THEN RUN TO HIDE MY RESPONSE AND BAN?


E NEVER REACH TIME WEY U GO POST UR OWN AND I POST MY OWN IN PEACE FOR THIS SITE?


BY THE WAY Y U ALWAYS PRESENT ON TRIBALISTIC THREAD?

Stolen:
MR MAN, Y DO U LIKE TO FIGHT WITH MY POST AND THEN RUN TO HIDE MY RESPONSE AND BAN?


E NEVER REACH TIME WEY U GO POST UR OWN AND I POST MY OWN IN PEACE FOR THIS SITE?


BY THE WAY Y U ALWAYS PRESENT ON TRIBALISTIC THREAD?

You still haven't found a cure? I will advise you to check the hospital at Yaba left. They should be able to help you.

You need to realise that it is not normal to keep quoting someone that is not a moderator anf accusing him of hiding your posts. This thing has been going on for 3 years now and you need to urgently seek help before you strip yourself naked on the street.

A stitch in time saves nine.

ALL I SEE HERE IS TRIBALISM ON FULL DISPLAY.


LET ME REITERATE, CITIES CANNOT BE EXCLUSIVE TRIBAL ZONE.


THEN WAT ARE VILLAGES FOR?


A CITY IS COSMOPOLITAN AND BY NATURE, A VERY SUCCESSFUL ONE WILL ENCOMPASS PEOPLE FROM ACROSS THE GLOBE.


THEY ARE GLOBAL CITIES LIKE LONDON, NEWYORK, TOKYO, BEIJING , TORONTO, DUBAI, SYDNEY ETC

IF U WANT TO GAIN STATUS OF THE CITIES ABOVE, JUST PREPARE TO HOST THE WORLD.

EVEN LAGOS WILL SOON HOST THE WHOLE WORLD, IF IT INDEED WANT TO ATTAIN STATUS OF GLOBAL CITY

Honestly South Africa is never a destination on my list,i cannot comprehend what Nigerians are doing there, their names alone are horrible,eg Nkosikhona Ndabandaba.

Newgiven:
Honestly South Africa is never a destination on my list,i cannot comprehend what Nigerians are doing there, their names alone are horrible,eg Nkosikhona Ndabandaba.

EVEN WITH ALL THE STREET SINGING, I WILL GO TO SOUTH AFRICA TODAY FOR THE YANSH.


NOTHING ELSE IS TAKING ME THERE.


I WANT TO SEE SOUTHY YANSH.,

NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE ZULU MATCH AND SING UP AND DOWN DURBAN AND NGOLI, E NO GO EVER REACH TO CAUSE EARTH QUAKE.


SOON THEY WILL REALISE THE FUTILITY OF THEIR DEMAND.


THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO STAY ALONE, THE IGBO FOUGHT A WAR THAT SAW GLOBAL POWERS UK, US, RUSSIA AND ARABS TEAM UP TO CAUSE 5MILLION DEATHS RATHER THAN LET US BE ON OUR LAND BECAUSE OF OIL AND GAS.



WAT IS NORTH KOREA CRIME OR EVEN IRAN, THEY WANT ISOLATION AND TO STAY ON THEIR OWN.



IF RECENT HAPPENING IN VENEZUELA IS NOT ENOUGH TO TELL U THE REACH AND IMPACT OF NEOCOLONIALISM WITH AMERICA CLAIMING THEIR OIL, THEN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM OVER THEIR HAS FAILED.


LOOK AT CONGO AND AS Y THEY CANT BE ON THEIR OWN WITH ALL THE RESOURCES?


SORRY, NOT ALLOWED, IN THE AMERICAN GLOBAL ECONOMY.


U CANNOT EVEN STAND UP TO TRUMP AND LOOK HIM IN THE FACE TO DEMAND LAND, U WANT AFRICANS THAT ARE NOT UPTO 3% TO EXIT SOUTH AFRICA.


THE SAME SOUTH AFRICA NIGERIA SUPPORTED THAT MADE WHITES HATE US.


U ARE PLAINLY NOT EVER SERIOUS.


ONCE I CATCH AN INVBITE FROM ONE BIG YANSH, I WILL BE IN DURBAN KWAZULU NATAL AND NOTHING ANY OF U CAN DO.


FEARLESS!

Ishilove:
I have a feeling that if migrants leave, the South Africans will turn on themselves rather than confront the real cause of their problems

That is what I have been telling those sans I engaged with on social media. I told them it is easy now to turn on a perceived enemy in this case the migrants, but after the migrants leave these restive people will surely turn on themselves. They are a very hot tempered people still stuck in times of Shaka Zulu.
Will chasing migrants suddenly put food on their table? Will it make their people not to be drug/alcohol addicts? Will it stop their rising HIV pandemic? That country is morally low.

"...and socio-economic challenges many locals blame on foreign nationals." Foreign nationals? Not even their government? Like, seriously? What is the number of these foreign nationals, and what political or constitutional powers do they wield to have this much influence on the social life and economy of South Africa and South Africans?

Yes, there could be foreign nationals involved in criminalities and the expectation is that people in this category are rounded up and made to face the law or deported back to their country, which is the standard practice in most civilised parts of the world. But this hate campaign disguised as anti-immigration or anti-crime?

And to the rest of Africa, this is on us and I hope we have learnt our lesson. In as much as it may be difficult to stay patient until the person or group of people whom we may think are being oppressed or treated unfairly to unravel, it's equally very risky jumping to their rescue out of pity or solidarity.

themanderon:
That is what I have been telling those sans I engaged with on social media. I told them it is easy now to turn on a perceived enemy in this case the migrants, but after the migrants leave these restive people will surely turn on themselves. They are a very hot tempered people still stuck in times of Shaka Zulu.
Will chasing migrants suddenly put food on their table? Will it make their people not to be drug/alcohol addicts? Will it stop their rising HIV pandemic? That country is morally low.

IT IS LIKE CLAIMMING THE POOR MAN IS THE CAUSE OF YOUR POVERTY.


SO, U TAKE HIM OUT AND INHERIT HIS POVERTY.


A LANDLESS PEOPLE ARE A POOR PEOPLE.


THE RESOURCES ARE WHERE?


IN THE LAND,



ARE AFRICAN MIGRANT HOLDING YOUR LAND OR THIS IS THE COWARD VERSION OF SHAKAR ZULU

Hungrychicken:
Fix your country Nigerians, everyone is getting tired of us soon

Correctly stated.

LET THEM MATCH TO THE MOON, AND LET US KNOW WHEN THEY ARRIVE THERE.


TODAY IS AFRICAN MIGRANT , TOMORROW IT WILL BE OTHER TRIBES IN SOUTH AFRICA.


KEEP TELLING YOURSELF, IT IS NOT XENOPHOBIA.


WE KNOW, BECAUSE EVEN HERE IN NIGERIA, WE SEE THE DEVASTATING IMPACT OF TRIBALISM.



IT IS AFRICA WIDE.

That's just the simple truth. Let's fix our country first. Who is SA, what's SA? That small Lilliputian country of ugly people. A country full of hatred and ugliness. Nigeria has really been debased by these our corrupt leaders and of course among us too that are always going up and down doing illegal businesses such as drugs trafficking, frauds , human trafficking etc.......who is SA where Nigeria stands?

SA is not big enough for Nigeria to eat for breakfast.....

Hungrychicken:
Fix your country Nigerians, everyone is getting tired of us soon

Chaba and Dudukwe regiment of the Zulu Army. Try and get back the Lands Afrikaners sent your ancestors away from first.

You are very very right. I wish he bans them.

masterfactor:
@seun all south africa on this forum should be ban for Life. NIGERIA CANNOT BE pampering a known enemy

masterfactor:
@seun all south africa on this forum should be ban for Life. NIGERIA CANNOT BE pampering a known enemy

OllyDiamond:
You are very very right. I wish he bans them.

UNA NO GO FIT TRY DAT ONE FOR WHERE I DEY.


BAN THE ONE COUNTRY BLESSED WITH BIG YANSH?


AFFLICTION CANNOT STAND FOR A SECOND TIME.

Lukuluku69:
Chaba and Dudukwe regiment of the Zulu Army. Try and get back the Lands Afrikaners sent your ancestors away from first.

THIS IS THE COWARD VERSION SLAPPING SKINNY FELLOW AFRICANS WHILST THE LAND OWNERS LAUGH AT THEM.


IT IS GOOD TO HAVE SHAME AND SENSE

erad:
Warriors that can only try to bully immigrants and can't even get gainful employment for themselves... Weird.

fix your country and stop running around to already fixed country

I TOOK AN OAT THE MINUTE I REALISE THAT I WAS A MAN, NEVER TO ALLOW, MY FELLOW MAN LAY HANDS ON ME AND ONE PERSON NOT MEET GOD THAT DAY.


WE ARE GOING TO DIE AT THE END ANYWAY, WHETHER NOW OR LATER, WE CAN DECIDE.


BRAVE OR A COWARD, U CAN CHOOSE TOO.


I 'M A RISK TAKER AND LOVE TO DARE FAITH.

Angelfrost:
Just to be clear... They are not asking Europeans, Americans, and citizens from developed nations living there to depart.

It is their fellow BLACK (Emphasis) Africans they are asking to leave.

What a time to be alive!

Well, they have drawn their line... It's now up to other African nations to return the energy.

Start by distancing yourselves from them... South Africa is not the only country on Earth.

If our Presidents and other Africans leaders won't take a united stand against that country, what is stopping everyone of us from taking individual and collective stands?!!

If we all turn our backs on them, will we all die?!! Are they the nation supporting and feeding the rest of Africa?!!

I hate it when immigrants act helpless, like if they don't stay in certain nations, they are better off dead... This behavior is what gives these thugs the audacity to be xenophobic, and you can see their leaders and kings support it.

They are just angry that SA women have an epidemic of cheating on them with Nigerian men. That is the hidden grudge behind this madness. Its not a myth. It's an institutional attempt at gatekeeping SA women cos thier men can't compete with the perceived masculine appeal of Nigerian men. That's the truth they are all ashamed to point out.

This is what you get when you crown kings in foreign lands

masterfactor:
@seun all south africa on this forum should be ban for Life. NIGERIA CANNOT BE pampering a known enemy

I support this motion

Nigerians Get your country working.. Nigeria is the greatest and can be better.
Your country is way better than those countries you travel to and get disrespected

naptu2:
You still haven't found a cure? I will advise you to check the hospital at Yaba left. They should be able to help you.

You need to realise that it is not normal to keep quoting someone that is not a moderator anf accusing him of hiding your posts. This thing has been going on for 3 years now and you need to urgently seek help before you strip yourself naked on the street.

A stitch in time saves nine.

Hahahaha

Hungrychicken:
Fix your country Nigerians, everyone is getting tired of us soon

How can you fix a country governed by Tinubu and his evil supporters

Everything you see here is preparing the ground for white rule over them once again sooner or later. And it's more likely being sponsored by western secret services.

My heart goes to them because they have no clue it's all about ostracizing themselves from the rest of the continent before whites return them to apartheid. And nobody will come to their aid. Guys, that's what it's all about.

Feel free to exclaim conspiracy theory!!

musicwriter:
Everything you see here is preparing the ground for white rule over them once again sooner or later. And it's more likely being sponsored by western secret services.

My heart goes to them because they have no clue it's all about ostracizing themselves from the rest of the continent before whites return them to apartheid. And nobody will come to their aid. Guys, that's what it's all about.

Feel free to exclaim conspiracy theory!!

MANY SOIUTH AFRICAN KNOW THIS AND ITIS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

THATIS Y I DID NOT MENTION IT.

HOWEVER, HOW DO THEY EXPLAIN TO THE STREET DUDES THAT LESS THAT 3% AFRICAN MIGRANT JOBS IF ANY CANNOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF OVER 80% BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS.

HOW DO U EXPLAIN TO THE COWARDS THAT 5% POPULATION HOLDING OVER 80% OF THE LAND IS AUTOMATIC POVERTY AND NOT A FEW OF YOUR BROTHERS STAYING WITH YOU WHICH BY THE WAY AS TERRIBLE AS NIGERIA ECONOMY MANAGEMENT IS, WE STILL HAVE SOUTH AFRICANS HERE IN NIGERIA.


THEY ARE NOT MANY BUT WE HAVE THEM LIVING HERE BOTH WHITE AND BLACK.