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jaxxy:
I just watched it and my view is if that Kenya guy goes to South Africa with valid documents and a decent job or business the frustrated South Africans who are xenophobic will end him.

Go and watch the videos online and see the people being attacked and killed. it's horrific.

I like south africans but I have no interest to vist a hateful country I don't care how beautiful it is. Let's keep doing our friendship online and on Instagram.

Jesus Christ.. you are still falling for propaganda.. who's being killed? Whats "horrific"? Stop being performative.

Good, then dont come.. I mean, thats exactly what South Africans are asking so....?

IronGalaxy:
Jesus Christ.. you are still falling for propaganda.. who's being killed? Whats "horrific"? Stop being performative.

Good, then dont come.. I mean, thats exactly what South Africans are asking so....?

yeah I don't really care to but others who want to shouldn't be killed for it. Don't u think in a civilised world?

I'm more interested in building Nigeria and u south africans and other foreigners and races start begging and scrambling to come here. Not going to South Africa and being treated like an alien or bad rash.

IronGalaxy:
Interesting..how quickly you easily see the failures of foreign governments and their systems but never see the failures and behavior of your people in foreign countries. Classic hypocrisy from a hypocrite.

Fortunately,I can walk and chew gum at the same time unlike the so called "patriot" who is a one-dimensional thinker.

As I have done a million and one times on this platform,I unequivocally disavow all foreign drug dealers of Nigerian descent in South Africa, Flush them out, arrest them and deport them.

Now will you disavow Xenophobians going around harassing ordinary foreign nationals?

Waiting?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhiBK-aeAno

seppuku:
Fortunately,I can walk and chew gum at the same time unlike the so called "patriot" who is a one-dimensional thinker.

As I have done a million and one times on this platform,I unequivocally disavow all foreign drug dealers of Nigerian descent in South Africa, Flush them out, arrest them and deport them.

Now will you disavow Xenophobians going around harassing ordinary foreign nationals?

Waiting?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhiBK-aeAno

Imagine, a whole Seppuku, who only thinks along two variables "xenophobia" and "propaganda" telling someone they're "one dimensional" thinkers..LOL!

Im not talking about Nigerians here's, im talking about immigrants and the challenges they pose, you call these "excuses" ..but come the failures of other governments.. you're outspoken, this is not "chewing and walking" , it's being selective

jaxxy:
yeah I don't really care to but others who want to shouldn't be killed for it. Don't u think in a civilised world?

I'm more interested in building Nigeria and u south africans and other foreigners and races start begging and scrambling to come here. Not going to South Africa and being treated like an alien or bad rash.

Im telling you no one is being killed, yet you're still still pushing this lie. I think you're obtuse

IronGalaxy:
Imagine, a whole Seppuku, who only thinks along two variables "xenophobia" and "propaganda" telling someone they're "one dimensional" thinkers..LOL!

Im not talking about Nigerians here's, im talking about immigrants and the challenges they pose, you call these "excuses" ..but come the failures of other governments.. you're outspoken, this is not "chewing and walking" , it's being selective

Denounce your xenophobic compatriots. You can't can you. Blind patriotism, that's what we call it.

By the way how come the rest of African populations with large immigrant populations are not experiencing these same "challenges"

Could it be something wrong with your systems and your people?

Stop with the excuses man. Migration is one thing but what you people are doing there is something else and it has been given a name which will continue to stick because it is true.

seppuku:
Denounce your xenophobic compatriots. You can't can you. Blind patriotism, that's what we call it.

By the way how come the rest of African populations with large immigrant populations are not experiencing these same "challenges"

Could it be something wrong with your systems and your people?

Stop with the excuses man. Migration is one thing but what you people are doing there is something else and it has been given a name which will continue to stick because it is true.

He's again telling me to do what he can't.. classic Seppuku... he calls all our challenges due to mass migration "excuses", all the crime and grime, all the housing constraits, job market problems etc.. start recognizing South African problems due to mass problems as problems and as concerns of South African people.. you cant can you.. ? You know why? That will require you to move from being a victim..

Also, ive never seen you denouncing all the tribalism happening in your country... the outrage is selective with you.. hypocrite

IronGalaxy:
He's again telling me to do what he can't.. classic Seppuku... he calls all our challenges due to mass migration "excuses", all the crime and grime, all the housing constraits, job market problems etc.. start recognizing South African problems due to mass problems as problems and as concerns of South African people.. you cant can you.. ? You know why? That will require you to move from being a victim..

I recognize migration creates issues for many countries including your country.
I recognize that many African countries have migrants comparable to the numbers in South Africa.
I recognize people who use migrants as excuses for the failure of their government to curb criminal enterprises, for promising free housing and being unable to fulfil that obligation and for destroying a thriving economy that was doing very well in the early 90s due to nepotism, corruption, Kleptocracy.

You think the whole world is S.tupid neh and are not aware that your government is timidly hiding behind the vale of "illegal foreign nationals" or that your country is the first to do this.

IronGalaxy:
Also, ive never seen you denouncing all the tribalism happening in your country... the outrage is selective with you.. hypocrite

I denounce all tribalists and tribalism here on nairaland and in my country or anywhere else it is practiced. I do not practice, endorse or tolerate tribal bigots.

Now denounce your brave "Patriots/xenphobians" below chasing sick women from hospitals and poor people trying to etche out a living for themselves in the name of the people of South Africa.

Waiting?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVe-_MMLAFc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWxoQKjJurU

IronGalaxy:
hahaha. You said south africa was 'built by whites" and I'm saying it was a concerted effort.. not the same thing buddy.. say one thing and stick to it .. you're all over the place.
The American government literally has I.C.E. which targets immigrants and deports them... try another example

I.C.E that raids people's homes,and not to mention there are black I.C.E agents so what the hell is that guy talking about?

seppuku:
I recognize migration creates issues for many countries including your country.
I recognize that many African countries have migrants comparable to the numbers in South Africa.
I recognize people who use migrants as excuses for the failure of their government to curb criminal enterprises, for promising free housing and being unable to fulfil that obligation and for destroying a thriving economy that was doing very well in the early 90s due to nepotism, corruption, Kleptocracy.

You think the whole world is S.tupid neh and are not aware that your government is timidly hiding behind the vale of "illegal foreign nationals" or that your country is the first to do this.




I denounce all tribalists and tribalism here on nairaland and in my country or anywhere else it is practiced. I do not practice, endorse or tolerate tribal bigots.

Now denounce your brave "Patriots/xenphobians" below chasing sick women from hospitals and poor people trying to etche out a living for themselves in the name of the people of South Africa.

Waiting?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVe-_MMLAFc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWxoQKjJurU

If you're waiting for me to label my people "xenophobic", you gonna hate to wait longer than for the Dre's Detox my friend, because I would never label my people what they aren't..

Does SA have "xenophobic" people? Yes it does.. they also exist in the UK, they exist in the US, they exist in Kenya, and they certainly exist over there in Naija.. so forget it, you'll never get that lie from.me

IronGalaxy:
If you're waiting for me to label my people "xenophobic", you gonna hate to wait longer than for the Dre's Detox my friend, because I would never label my people what they aren't..

Does SA have "xenophobic" people? Yes it does.. they also exist in the UK, they exist in the US, they exist in Kenya, and they certainly exist over there in Naija.. so forget it, you'll never get that lie from.me

At least you admit "some" of your people are xenophobic instead of trying to convince us here that your marches and protests are solely orchestrated by "patriots", as if this purported characterization of the latter nullifies the clear existence of the former.

"There are no absolutes."

JaceBlaze:
I.C.E that raids people's homes,and not to mention there are black I.C.E agents so what the hell is that guy talking about?

No ,my friend. The old orange man tried to circumvent the law by having ice agents pass of administrative warrants as judicial and got dealt with in the courts.

No judicial warrant, no entry into people's houses. Laws work in the US unlike where you are from where people take the laws into their hands.

seppuku:
At least you admit "some" of your people are xenophobic instead of trying to convince us here that your marches and protests are solely orchestrated by "patriots", as if this purported characterization of the latter nullifies the clear existence of the former.

"There are no absolutes."

thats because xenophobic people exist everywhere Einstein

jaxxy:
I just watched it and my view is if that Kenya guy goes to South Africa with valid documents and a decent job or business the frustrated South Africans who are xenophobic will end him.

Go and watch the videos online and see the people being attacked and killed. it's horrific.

I like south africans but I have no interest to vist a hateful country I don't care how beautiful it is. Let's keep doing our friendship online and on Instagram.

The place used to be nice. It has definitely gone downhill and it's not because of the "illegals" that's for sure. Most tourists now skip Johannesburg and Durban for Cape town and the Western cape. I suggest if you are going to visit/holiday to head straight there where there is still a semblance of decency.

IronGalaxy:
thats because xenophobic people exist everywhere Einstein

DOn't worry you admitted what I wanted you to admit albeit in the most indirect of ways.

Nobody made the claim that "all South Africans" are xenophobic.

seppuku:
DOn't worry you admitted what I wanted you to admit albeit in the most indirect of ways.

Nobody made the claim that "all South Africans" are xenophobic.

Lol.. you're just desperate to be vindicated..I only admitted water was wet.. pipe down
The claim was "South Africans" were inherently xenophobic..stick to that claim

IronGalaxy:
Lol.. you're just desperate to be vindicated..I only admitted water was wet.. pipe down
The claim was "South Africans" were inherently xenophobic..stick to that claim

But we are talking about South African water here. You don't really care if Angolan water is dirty now do you?

The claim was " South Africans are necessarily xenophobic towards other African migrants"

seppuku:
No ,my friend. The old orange man tried to circumvent the law by having ice agents pass of administrative warrants as judicial and got dealt with in the courts.

No judicial warrant, no entry into people's houses. Laws work in the US unlike where you are from where people take the laws into their hands.

I could have sworn I have seen on Tik Tok and read some articles about ICE going door to door and arresting people without warrants.There were some Mexicans who were even fetched from their workplaces so I don't know if I should just take Seppuku's word just because he said so.

seppuku:
But we are talking about South African water here. You don't really care if Angolan water is dirty now do you?

The claim was " South Africans are necessarily xenophobic towards other African migrants"

Convo is running in circles... the claim was South Africans are inherently xenophobic against African immigrants... that claim in not true.. so whats the brouhaha all about?

IronGalaxy:
Convo is running in circles... the claim was South Africans are inherently xenophobic against African immigrants... that claim in not true.. so whats the brouhaha all about?

The claim remains " South Africans are necessarily xenophobic towards African migrant"

As far as it not being true,I will let your fellow brothers in the video speak for me on that matter.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVf43U35hWQ&t=2433s

JaceBlaze:
I could have sworn I have seen on Tik Tok and read some articles about ICE going door to door and arresting people without warrants.There were some Mexicans who were even fetched from their workplaces so I don't know if I should just take Seppuku's word just because he said so.

Violation of the 4th amendment "unlawful search and seizure". Illegal ice raids.

FYI. They are required to have a type of "warrant" even for workplace arrests, they just peddled the "wrong one."





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZgFOV7gCHA

seppuku:
The claim remains " South Africans are necessarily xenophobic towards African migrant"

As far as it not being true,I will let your fellow brothers in the video speak for me on that matter.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVf43U35hWQ&t=2433s

Yes, your opinion in the matter remains. I won't change your victimhood
The fact of the matter remains though.." we are not xenophobic" i echo the sentiments of my president..
Now take a hike, im more interested in the recently released UFO files..

IronGalaxy:
Yes, your opinion in the matter remains. I won't change your victimhood
The fact of the matter remains though.." we are not xenophobic" i echo the sentiments of my president..
Now take a hike, im more interested in the recently released UFO files..

Let me save you much time my dear boy, the only expo you will get is exactly that, unidentified flying objects not out of this world technology.

Meanwhile the debate on South African xenophobia continues everywhere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL6Dd0nmlGc

seppuku:
Let me save you much time my dear boy, the only expo you will get is exactly that, unidentified flying objects not out of this world technology.

Meanwhile the debate on South African xenophobia continues everywhere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL6Dd0nmlGc

Lol.. the " debates" can continue for all I care, it doesn't change the fact that they are spearheaded by people who have no clue what's going on..

At this point the issue of UFOs is far more interesting that listening to hypocrites going on and on about the "xenophobia" when there are far more pressing issues in their respective countries.

IronGalaxy:
Lol.. the " debates" can continue for all I care, it doesn't change the fact that they are spearheaded by people who have no clue what's going on..

As the saying goes "In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king. "

I am guessing the whole world are the blind ones and simply making up stuff.

I hear you. SMH

seppuku:
As the saying goes "In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king. "

I am guessing the whole world are the blind ones and simply making up stuff.

I hear you. SMH

The whole world is responding to sensationalism..

IronGalaxy:
The whole world is responding to sensationalism..

Yes, those lazy journalists. Always misrepresenting South Africa from 2008-2025.

It's an agenda against the people of South Africa. Funny the Apartheid government used to the say the "same things" about the reports coming from SA back in the day.

I guess things never change.

seppuku:
Yes, those lazy journalists. Always misrepresenting South Africa from 2008-2025.

It's an agenda against the people of South Africa. Funny the Apartheid government used to the say the "same things" about the reports coming from SA back in the day.

I guess things never change.

You have Nigerians going around claiming "SortofFreecarns are killing us Oo" they even stormed the South African embassy in Nigeria with those false claims..
...where do you think they get that?

The Media..

The world thinks we hunt white people like game..and there's a "white genocide" blah blah...
Because of who? The Media..

So dont act like you dont know Media has the power to change or manipulate perceptions

"Xenophobic attack, xenophobic attack" every f....ng day! A clear thinking person knows it's got to be more than that

IronGalaxy:
You have Nigerians going around claiming "SortofFreecarns are killing us Oo" they even stormed the South African embassy in Nigeria with those false claims..
...where do you think they get that?

The Media..

No they get that from fake social media sources not the BBC or DW Africa or Al jazeera.

IronGalaxy:
The world thinks we hunt white people like game..and there's a "white genocide" blah blah...
Because of who? The Media..

No, That's Donald Trump and his spin doctors in the white house. The rest of the real media had already done their investigations and found all of it to be false.

IronGalaxy:
So dont act like you dont know Media has the power to change or manipulate perceptions

"Xenophobic attack, xenophobic attack" every f....ng day! A clear thinking knows it's got to be more than that

You mistake Social media where anything goes with real journalism. Every media house can't be conspiring against you all at once.

The real media has been covering your Xenophobic tendencies since the late 2000's.and know this is more than your so called fight against Illegal immigrants.

Even your heroes March and March keep shifting narratives and can't stick to one story as they find themselves getting caught out. Today its criminality and Nigerian drug lords, then its spaza shop owners poisoning their kids, then its legal migrants heading to clinics for treatments now its Illegal migrants or are they all one and the same. Which one is it eh?

Ahh Mfethu just admit what we can all see.

seppuku:
Violation of the 4th amendment "unlawful search and seizure". Illegal ice raids.

FYI. They are required to have a type of "warrant" even for workplace arrests, they just peddled the "wrong one."





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZgFOV7gCHA

You are just 'splaining' at this point.

JaceBlaze:
You are just 'splaining' at this point.

No, we are adding "context" to your earlier statement.