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seppuku:
No they get that from fake social media sources not the BBC or DW Africa or Al jazeera.


No, That's Donald Trump and his spin doctors in the white house. The rest of the real media had already done their investigations and found all of it to be false.



You mistake Social media where anything goes with real journalism. Every media house can't be conspiring against you all at once.

The real media has been covering your Xenophobic tendencies since the late 2000's.and know this is more than your so called fight against Illegal immigrants.

Even your heroes March and March keep shifting narratives and can't stick to one story as they find themselves getting caught out. Today its criminality and Nigerian drug lords, then its spaza shop owners poisoning their kids, then its legal migrants heading to clinics for treatments now its Illegal migrants or are they all one and the same. Which one is it eh?

Ahh Mfethu just admit what we can all see.

Jesus christ.. arent you bored with this.. ?goddamn. youre fighting nail and tooth to label us "xenophobic"... my guy, call us any name you want, its makes no difference anymore..
we know what we are and what we are not not ..

seppuku:
No they get that from fake social media sources not the BBC or DW Africa or Al jazeera.


No, That's Donald Trump and his spin doctors in the white house. The rest of the real media had already done their investigations and found all of it to be false.



You mistake Social media where anything goes with real journalism. Every media house can't be conspiring against you all at once.

The real media has been covering your Xenophobic tendencies since the late 2000's.and know this is more than your so called fight against Illegal immigrants.

Even your heroes March and March keep shifting narratives and can't stick to one story as they find themselves getting caught out. Today its criminality and Nigerian drug lords, then its spaza shop owners poisoning their kids, then its legal migrants heading to clinics for treatments now its Illegal migrants or are they all one and the same. Which one is it eh?

Ahh Mfethu just admit what we can all see.

And what makes you think those news houses are exempt to spreading propaganda?

Media is not only news boss.. documentaries, podcasts, etc all this is media... Donald Trump might have lit the "white genocide" misinformation a lot of media took that and ran with it .. and many believe that to be the truth to this day

You always dismiss the real concerns and real lived experiences of South Africans to amplify the "xenophobia" victim narrative.. its glaringly disingenuous, the poisoning, the crimes, the lawlessness, the illegal immigration, all these are happening at the same time.. so how can we stick to one story?

IronGalaxy:
Jesus christ.. arent you bored with this.? Seriously..goddamn. youre fighting nail and tooth to label us "xenophobic"... my guy, call us any name you want, its makes no difference anymore..
we know what we are and what we are not ..

Why the frustration man. You are the one who volunteers to come on here. Nobody is forcing you to listen to me.

seppuku:
Why the frustration man. You are the one who volunteers to come on here. Nobody is forcing you to listen to me.

The hypocrisy is what frustrates me the most

IronGalaxy:
The hypocrisy is what frustrates me the most

But I have condemned the Nigerian criminals and the Nigerian tribalists and now cannot you say I can't condemn the Xenophobes.

Right right.

seppuku:
But I have condemned the Nigerian criminals and the Nigerian tribalists and now cannot you say I can't condemn the Xenophobes.

Right right.

Seppuku what was "Ghana must go"?

seppuku:
No, we are adding "context" to your earlier statement.

Splaining.

JaceBlaze:
Splaining.

contextualizing.

IronGalaxy:
Seppuku what was "Ghana must go"?

You want me to condemn that one too?

seppuku:
You want me to condemn that one too?

I want you to tell me what it was

IronGalaxy:
I want you to tell me what it was

A terrible event between two West African nations.

seppuku:
A terrible event between two West African nations.

hahaha.. what brought about that "terrible event"?

IronGalaxy:
hahaha.. what brought about that "terrible event"?

1. Economic decline- Oil price crash in the 80's
2. A retaliatory immigration policy of the Shagari administration.
3. Religious riots.

seppuku:
contextualizing.

Mental gymnastics,long-winded 'splaining' just to end up saying absolutely nothing,that's what I call it.

JaceBlaze:
Mental gymnastics,long-winded 'splaining' just to end up saying absolutely nothing,that's what I call it.

Just cause its above your ability to comprehend doesn't take away from the fact of the matter.

IronGalaxy:
And what makes you think those news houses are exempt to spreading propaganda?

Media is not only news boss.. documentaries, podcasts, etc all this is media... Donald Trump might have lit the "white genocide" misinformation a lot of media took that and ran with it .. and many believe that to be the truth to this day

You always dismiss the real concerns and real lived experiences of South Africans to amplify the "xenophobia" victim narrative.. its glaringly disingenuous, the poisoning, the crimes, the lawlessness, the illegal immigration, all these are happening at the same time.. so how can we stick to one story?

Propaganda to what end?

I can see why the Americans might be doing it but how does Al jazeera benefit from spreading propaganda about what they too have termed Xenophobia?

As for other sources of media such as podcasts, Tic tock'facebook posts spreading false information, well people who buy into that kinda opinion-based stuff are not very bright upstairs.

seppuku:
1. Economic decline- Oil price crash in the 80's
2. A retaliatory immigration policy of the Shagari administration.
3. Religious riots.

So why ask "Ghana to go" then?

JaceBlaze:
Mental gymnastics,long-winded 'splaining' just to end up saying absolutely nothing,that's what I call it.

He really exels in these long winded whataboutisms and explanations that ultimately say nothing

IronGalaxy:
So why ask "Ghana to go" then?

Is that some sort of trick question or a gotcha moment?

You asked me what brought about the "terrible" event and I gave you the circumstances that precipitated the action that followed.

IronGalaxy:
He really exels in these long winded whataboutisms and explanations that ultimately say nothing

Yes Yes, and you keep indulging me.

seppuku:
Is that some sort of trick question or a gotcha moment?

You asked me what brought about the "terrible" event and I gave you the circumstances that precipitated the action that followed.

um no... What do those circumstances have to do with you wanting "Ghana to go".?

seppuku:
Propaganda to what end?

I can see why the Americans might be doing it but how does Al jazeera benefit from spreading propaganda about what they too have termed Xenophobia?

As for other sources of media such as podcasts, Tic tock'facebook posts spreading false information, well people who buy into that kinda opinion-based stuff are not very bright upstairs.

Here's the thing, if you gonna report something without full context, you're no different to a propagandist.. "why are these South Africans marching'? , why are their demands like this,? etc.. provide context, because saying things like " it's day 3 of South African xenophobic marches" is lazy reporting my friend.. and all these media houses are guilty of this..

IronGalaxy:
um no... What do those circumstances have to do with you wanting "Ghana to go"

1. Economy bad- high unemployment, citizens target foreigners( Ghanaians)
2. Retaliatory immigration policy- Ghana expels Nigerians when their economy tanks as well so Nigerian reciprocates.
3. Religious riots- Riots in Kano city break out, The North blames all non-indigenes including foreign nationals from neighboring countries for rampant display non muslim practices.

Anything else?

IronGalaxy:
Here's the thing, if you gonna report something without full context, you're no different to a propagandist.. "why are these South Africans marching'? , why are their demands like this,? etc.. provide context, because saying things like " it's day 3 of South African xenophobic marches" is lazy reporting my friend.. and all these media houses are guilty of this..

But most people here already know and have commented on what the problems are in South African in terms of crime, drugs, corruption, government incompetence, bribery, misallocation of health care resources e.t.c

Why do you think they still believe you are targeting 'foreign nationals" and are "xenophobic"?

seppuku:
1. Economy bad- high unemployment, citizens target foreigners( Ghanaians)
2. Retaliatory immigration policy- Ghana expels Nigerians when their economy tanks as well so Nigerian reciprocates.
3. Religious riots- Riots in Kano city break out, The North blames all no indigenes including foreigners for rampant display non muslim practices.

Anything else?

So how is this not "xenophobic "?

seppuku:
But most people here already know and have commented on what the problems are in South African in terms of crime, drugs, corruption, government incompetence, bribery, misallocation of health care resources e.t.c

Why do you think they still believe you are targeting 'foreign nationals" and are "xenophobic"?

Most people not the media houses..

IronGalaxy:
So how is this not "xenophobic "?

Even it were, are you trying to justify your xenophobia by calling out the xenophobia that occurred in the 80's. Like seriously?

IronGalaxy:
Most people not the media houses..

So Al jazeera completely clueless of the crime/inequality issues and illegal migration in South Africa or the zama zama's that were trapped underground for months?

seppuku:
Even it were, are you trying to justify your xenophobia by calling out the xenophobia that occurred in the 80's. Like seriously?

No no no.. let's not do this.. lets not hide behind a thumb..
Was your "Ghana must go" not xenophobic? Whether it happened in the 80s its irrelevant

seppuku:
So Al jazeera completely clueless of the crime/inequality issues and illegal migration in South Africa or the zama zama's that were trapped underground for months?

The question is do they provide context in ther reporting of the so-called "xenophobic marches" or not' the answer is NO. What they know is pointless

IronGalaxy:
The question is do they provide context in ther reporting of the so-called "xenophobic marches" or not' the answer is NO. What they know is pointless

What context do you want them to report to the world, that there are foreign nationals committing crime.

Your own statssa can't even determine the percentage of foreigners that commit crimes or report accurate numbers of the percentage that make up prison inmates so we must rely on your "lived experiences" to determine the truth eh?

IronGalaxy:
No no no.. let's not do this.. lets not hide behind a thumb..
Was your "Ghana must go" not xenophobic? Whether it happened in the 80s its irrelevant

I just answered you but you were not listening, even if it were, are you condoning xenophobia now vs xenophobia in the 80's?