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Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by TEYA: 8:17am On May 16
mayor1814:
Did u know that as we are speaking, china is dumping Iran's oil, china is now buying and getting oil from America. See international politics is not all gra gra everytime... U do gra gra at d right time for gra gra and act with restraint at d right time for restraint... That's some complex global chess game that trump and his team understand
Oga go and do your research well, China is truly buying American oil but it is by far the largest buyer of Iranian oil, China accounts for about 90% of Iranian oil export. grin
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by Reference(m): 8:18am On May 16
Peacecore:
The guy you call sleeping Joe was handling the Ukraine situation in America's [dignity] way and all NATO countries were together untill this greedy slowpoke came and sold America to Russia. As an African you're expected to keep worshipping the fool sha
So what do you want.
America to join the war and fight Russia.
Then the other half of the world says they love to fight and who appointed them policeman of he world.

Donald Trump started out with with an isolationist policy. A policy that clearly did not want anything to do with the war in Ukraine but he was criticised by Europe for it.

Now he is doing the opposition the middle east and is still criticized for it.

It appears everyone wants an America and an American president doing their own bidding. Everyone wants to pick and choose what this country does or does not do. They must be the most used and abused country on earth.
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by Adakintroy: 8:23am On May 16
numericalguy:
On what way is America representing the world?
In what way is America advanced?

Same America that blacks are being maltreated and punished or killed for being black. Same America that being black and walking on the street is enough for police to harass, arrest or even shoot you.
Same America that see Islam as the enemy and Muslims are being attacked on a daily

China does not arrest or kill people because of their skin colour
China does not see Islam as the enemy
Their are things that are too obvious to argue. Can you produce a black president in china or any other top European nation. America is leading the world in also social human consciousness. No other nation produce the much diversity inclusion In a
Ideology, culture, social, economy religion.

Can you see a black represent russia or china in any summit but am sure you know who Kamala Harris is. Condoleezaa rice, Obama. Most tribe can allow other tribe rule them in Africa. Let alone other race. You don't really context how primitively insecure other race/ nations are to talk about being works leaders
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by Reference(m): 8:28am On May 16
fintol:
Am not a supporter of trump,I think he is trying to avoid unnecessary war which may result to global damage.
That is my take on this.
They can choose to posture and the end will be Mutually Assured Economic Destruction for what.... pride.

The conflict in the mid east has not taught anyone that. And for citizens of poor, vulnerable economies like Nigeria to be advocating for escalation on matters that don't concern them and when your government has little to offer by way of economic resilient is just amazing.

But then Nigerians have proven time and again that they are a people of very poor, unwise choices.
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by bigpicture001: 8:39am On May 16
God1000:
I hope south Korea is watching this, first he abandoned Ukraine and insulted NATO and the entire Europe, it is better for these countries to abandon america completely for protection and normalize relations with their big neighbors.


Trump admires the likes of Vladimir Putin of Russia, xi jinping of china and Kim of north Korea so much that he will rather sell US allies to these countries than doing the needful


Another thing is that Iran's war has taught him a bitter lesson not to mess around with powerful militaries
America is not all bout Trump, dude ha an just under 3 years left...

What his statement means is that China will go for it before Trump leaves.. they know he is weak ND foolish
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by numericalguy(m): 8:40am On May 16
Adakintroy:
Their are things that are too obvious to argue. Can you produce a black president in china or any other top European nation. America is leading the world in also social human consciousness. No other nation produce the much diversity inclusion In a
Ideology, culture, social, economy religion.

Can you see a black represent russia or china in any summit but am sure you know who Kamala Harris is. Condoleezaa rice, Obama. Most tribe can allow other tribe rule them in Africa. Let alone other race. You don't really context how primitively insecure other race/ nations are to talk about being works leaders
What is the population of blacks in china that you want a black president in China.

America will millions of blacks only had a black president once and the door has been shut on blacks since then. How many black governors have been produced by blacks.


There are towns in the US called Sun down towns that blacks are not allowed to stay till this day. Any black seen after dark is hinted like an animal and killed.


BTW, I lived in the US while people like you only watch American movies on TV, people like me have seen what is not shown to your kind
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by numericalguy(m): 8:47am On May 16
ViceGovernor:
We are here to burst your lies..... look 👇🏼.

The biggest loser in this war is clearly visible to the blind and audible to the deaf, unborn babies in their mother's womb know who they are.
That is the problem with you die hard America lovers. You would rather bury your head in the sand than face reality.

Why show only the losses on Iran side? What stops you from showing us the losses on US side?

Everyone knows war is losses on both sides, it is laughable showing the Iranian loses while being quiet with the losses on the American side.

Is it not the same US where gas has gone up by nearly 4times?
Same US where groceries have gone up
Same US where basic services have skyrocketed
Same US where there stock market is nose diving at an alarming rate.
The US have lost trillions of dollars in this war and many of their prizes military equipment have been lost.

In 6 weeks, Iran destroyed military equipment and facilities that took the US over 30 years to build

Same US have lost over 23 military bases and other facilities in the entire middle east.
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by AleAirHub(m): 9:03am On May 16
Lol... that's game over cheesy
Skullminers1:
Trump my man,a very smart man who knows how to play chess game very well.
Trump is using Taiwan to bait China in ongoing conflicts with Iran which will be difficult for China to support Iran with the military supplies now that USA said they might not support Taiwan independence
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by Adakintroy: 9:19am On May 16
numericalguy:
What is the population of blacks in china that you want a black president in China.

America will millions of blacks only had a black president once and the door has been shut on blacks since then. How many black governors have been produced by blacks.


There are towns in the US called Sun down towns that blacks are not allowed to stay till this day. Any black seen after dark is hinted like an animal and killed.


BTW, I lived in the US while people like you only watch American movies on TV, people like me have seen what is not shown to your kind
You live you u s as a flex.? Imagine people like me. Does it take people like me to see the likes of Obama. Or Kamala or sport icons like lebron James, carl lewis, Dave chapel, that you can critic the system so openly is because it allows you. Have you heard of north Korea?. A black woman was going up against a white man to be number one citizen of the world. And a black man did become the number one citizen in two term But apparently that's a racist country. Show another country that has that. You are giving me excuses. Do I need the be in America to know this. You that is there give examples.
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by Peacecore: 9:32am On May 16
Reference:
So what do you want.
America to join the war and fight Russia.
Then the other half of the world says they love to fight and who appointed them policeman of he world.

Donald Trump started out with with an isolationist policy. A policy that clearly did not want anything to do with the war in Ukraine but he was criticised by Europe for it.

Now he is doing the opposition the middle east and is still criticized for it.

It appears everyone wants an America and an American president doing their own bidding. Everyone wants to pick and choose what this country does or does not do. They must be the most used and abused country on earth.
You won't understand that the strength of America comes from their allies not isolating themselves and also being feared and listened to by other countries. Today Trump has scattered that institution with greed. He started by abusing Zelensky in whitehouse in the hearing of everyone and pampering Putin while wearing American cloak of power. He scattered American allies with tarrif and called India economy dead economy after which they lost the biggest democracy to China/Russia block. Today, Spain, France, Canada, Mexico, Germany etc no longer heed to call of America which has never happened in many years that America has been in power. Look deep you'll understand that the State has retrograde in strength under Trump than under the man you call sleeping Joe.
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by Segxydube: 9:43am On May 16
dermmy:
Trump is indirectly telling Taiwan we won't come to your aid if you declare independence and China invades. America has learned from Iran.
Learn frm whc iran?

Na so una go dey talk anyhw
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by patrickcollins: 9:57am On May 16
God1000:
I hope south Korea is watching this, first he abandoned Ukraine and insulted NATO and the entire Europe, it is better for these countries to abandon america completely for protection and normalize relations with their big neighbors.


Trump admires the likes of Vladimir Putin of Russia, xi jinping of china and Kim of north Korea so much that he will rather sell US allies to these countries than doing the needful


Another thing is that Iran's war has taught him a bitter lesson not to mess around with powerful militaries
South Korea is a great country better in all sphere than North Korea. Technologically they are better, they can produce nuclear weapons if they want to, the capacity is there. America fought in the last Korean war alongside south Korea.
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by patrickcollins: 10:02am On May 16
God1000:
I hope south Korea is watching this, first he abandoned Ukraine and insulted NATO and the entire Europe, it is better for these countries to abandon america completely for protection and normalize relations with their big neighbors.


Trump admires the likes of Vladimir Putin of Russia, xi jinping of china and Kim of north Korea so much that he will rather sell US allies to these countries than doing the needful


Another thing is that Iran's war has taught him a bitter lesson not to mess around with powerful militaries
Ukraine is not a member of NATO, that's EU headache to solve same way they told Trump Iran war has nothing to do with NATO
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by patrickcollins: 10:05am On May 16
sweerychick:
This man is funny, this iran war has taught him a bitter lesson, now Trump is agreeing to any condition just to save his face, never a time in my life I would believe America would be reduced to this. China now is the world's super power. This is clearly president Xi Jin ping setting his own condition because of Iran's war. The united states have been clearly humiliated. I don't think any country would take America seriously again
Nigeria will take America serious, your leaders will do unless they wan Ayotallah treatment.
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by ViceGovernor: 11:31am On May 16
You are still lying 🤥 despite definitive proof of your lies.

Nobody said USA didn't lose anything but their loses pales in comparison to the massive loses Iran has suffered, despite knowing all these you are saying they humbled America 😏 as how nahuh

Their supreme leader was quenched like a cigarette bud, their entire navy all 176 vessels sunk beneath the sea, they have no air defense system, their skies is training space for rookie pilots now, every single warplane they have has been buried with explosives, what about their nuclear scientists? Their most prized possession which is their nuclear sites, it is non existent as we speak. Over a hundred generals wasted like cow dung.
All the waterways into Iran have an aircraft carrier parked there.....yet you are still delusional that Iran is winning, winning what exactlyhuh

In one move the US can blow the entire country's energy to smithereens (Kharg island).
You guys should be thankful America is restraining themselves and Israel from obliterating Iran.

They hit a couple of US bases and a few jets were struck.....you and me both know that's a drop of water in the ocean to America, it is nothing and they will replace everything lost.....but you see Iran they will never recover from the damage US did to them.

The price of gas going up is necessary and temporal discomfort, a sacrifice to be made to ensure that in the future Iran will never have nuclear weapons to hold the world hostage.

The objective of the war remains the same and it has been achieved, dismantling of their nuclear ambition, Iran will never be allowed to have nuclear weapons. #fact.


Eat the humble pie 🥧 bro there is no shame in losing massively to a superior power.
numericalguy:
That is the problem with you die hard America lovers. You would rather bury your head in the sand than face reality.

Why show only the losses on Iran side? What stops you from showing us the losses on US side?

Everyone knows war is losses on both sides, it is laughable showing the Iranian loses while being quiet with the losses on the American side.

Is it not the same US where gas has gone up by nearly 4times?
Same US where groceries have gone up
Same US where basic services have skyrocketed
Same US where there stock market is nose diving at an alarming rate.
The US have lost trillions of dollars in this war and many of their prizes military equipment have been lost.

In 6 weeks, Iran destroyed military equipment and facilities that took the US over 30 years to build

Same US have lost over 23 military bases and other facilities in the entire middle east.
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by Hmmmmm2024: 11:59am On May 16
HacheNoire:
Took over the airspace and still lost 36 aircraft’s! Oh! You did. It watch the senate hearing!

So much of airspace takeover!
And Iran lost all aircrafts... before I forget, how many virgins did you guys give khamenei ?
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by Fadman4real(m): 12:04pm On May 16
mayor1814:
Normally as USA is the world power, he too will always exercise restraint especially when dealing with a powerful country like china... Not that china is more powerful oo but just to exercise restraint... No be fight fight everytime... And meanwhile both leaders agreed that Iran cannot have nuclear weapon
Keep coping and don't look at reality, the new world power is China, US is the dying power
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by Fadman4real(m): 12:08pm On May 16
Hmmmmm2024:
And Iran lost all aircrafts... before I forget, how many virgins did you guys give khamenei ?
Lmao aircraft that they used to welcome the Pakistani even US media is reporting that they packed their aircraft in Pakistan even used a old 1960 jet to blow up US bases in Kuwait.

As for Kumani that US assassinated, he was an 88 year old, his son is in charge now and US/Isreal are scared of him.

BTW the strait of homoz is still under Iran control what can you do about it.
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by muykem: 12:10pm On May 16
Eriokanmi:
Abi allies have abandoned the US . Trump cant talk to Germany and France for any help as we speak, quite unusual
Trump has bastardize every America relationship with other countries. He demean united nation and scattered NATO.
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by Fadman4real(m): 12:18pm On May 16
ViceGovernor:
You are still lying 🤥 despite definitive proof of your lies.

Nobody said USA didn't lose anything but their loses pales in comparison to the massive loses Iran has suffered, despite knowing all these you are saying they humbled America 😏 as how nahuh

Their supreme leader was quenched like a cigarette bud, their entire navy all 176 vessels sunk beneath the sea, they have no air defense system, their skies is training space for rookie pilots now, every single warplane they have has been buried with explosives, what about their nuclear scientists? Their most prized possession which is their nuclear sites, it is non existent as we speak. Over a hundred generals wasted like cow dung.
All the waterways into Iran have an aircraft carrier parked there.....yet you are still delusional that Iran is winning, winning what exactlyhuh

In one move the US can blow the entire country's energy to smithereens (Kharg island).
You guys should be thankful America is restraining themselves and Israel from obliterating Iran.

They hit a couple of US bases and a few jets were struck.....you and me both know that's a drop of water in the ocean to America, it is nothing and they will replace everything lost.....but you see Iran they will never recover from the damage US did to them.

The price of gas going up is necessary and temporal discomfort, a sacrifice to be made to ensure that in the future Iran will never have nuclear weapons to hold the world hostage.

The objective of the war remains the same and it has been achieved, dismantling of their nuclear ambition, Iran will never be allowed to have nuclear weapons. #fact.


Eat the humble pie 🥧 bro there is no shame in losing massively to a superior power.
Lmao where did you get the evidence that Iran would not be able to build a nuclear bomb

They have all their enriched uranium in tact all buried under mountains that your bunker buster bombs cant even get near it.

They previously never controlled the strait of homoz now they fully do and that is greater than any nuclear power as they have shown.

They destroyed all the US bases that surrounds them and even got Saudi to start rejecting the US to use their airspace.

Since you get your news from Trump perhaps you should ask yourself the question if their navy and airforce is destroyed what is stopping the greatest super power in the world controlling a small strait of homoz and even begging China, NATO and the world for help.

Before this war US said they wanted regime change, they wanted to destroy Iran Uranium, they wanted to destroy Iran missile capabilities. They have achieved nothing only killing 88 year old men and civilians in schools, hospitals like the terrorists they are

Meanwhile Iran got to find out they can control the strait of homoz and charge for it. Destroyed all US bases surrounding them, became a world power, France, Spain, China, Russia etc all trying to have legal relations with Iran.

Links to help you
https://www.ms.now/news/iran-retains-missile-capabilities-despite-trumps-claims-intelligence-reports-say

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/pakistan-iran-military-aircraft-on-its-airfields-us-mediator-role/

https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/an-iranian-vietnam-era-f-5-fighter-jet-slipped-past-patriot-pac-3-batteries-and-bombed-a-u-s-base-in-kuwait/
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by Amayabor1: 12:52pm On May 16
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
America doesn't even recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state. For Washington, Taiwan is part of China. I will advice the Taiwanese government to go for peaceful unification with China. If they choose force, they will become Ukraine 2.0
The US maintain ambiguity when it comes to China. While it is true that they do not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state, they officially do not agree it is part of China. For example, the US is the biggest supplier of weapons to Taiwan. How can an entity that is not a country have it's own military and be able to buy weapons? The US sells weapons to Taiwan. If Taiwan were truly under China sovereignty, they wouldn't need to buy weapons, have their own military, elect their own presidents and other political leaders.

Taiwan is just disturbing itself. They don't need to declare independence. They are already independent.
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by ViceGovernor: 2:51pm On May 16
The problem with you islamists is that you never accept the truth even when presented with the facts.

You said Iran is controlling the strait of Hormuz.....the same strait that a simple Google search would show you an Armada armed to teeth fully parked there with no no ship allowed into or out of Iran, it's obvious you are on a mission of self delusion.
The strait remains blocked while Iran loses $450,000,000 every single day, why are they running to Pakistan to help them beg??

I will leave you to wallow in your ignorance while the fact remains the fact Iran will never have a nuclear weapon as long as America is world power and Israel is still existence which will be forever ♾️.

That entire country has thousands of satellites parked over them and there is no hiding place if they pick shovel to dig anything missiles will follow immediately, so we'd like to see them try to build any nuclear related weapon.

You said he is begging China and Russia for help, United states with 18,000 warplanes and the highest amount of warships in the whole world is begging for help, you are clearly out of touch with reality........ president Trump said other Nations that make use of the strait should send their own contribution to secure it since the US does not use it they should not expect the US to secure it for them. ....the cowardly spineless leaders buried their heads in the sand as expected.
Fadman4real:
Lmao where did you get the evidence that Iran would not be able to build a nuclear bomb

They have all their enriched uranium in tact all buried under mountains that your bunker buster bombs cant even get near it.

They previously never controlled the strait of homoz now they fully do and that is greater than any nuclear power as they have shown.

They destroyed all the US bases that surrounds them and even got Saudi to start rejecting the US to use their airspace.

Since you get your news from Trump perhaps you should ask yourself the question if their navy and airforce is destroyed what is stopping the greatest super power in the world controlling a small strait of homoz and even begging China, NATO and the world for help.

Before this war US said they wanted regime change, they wanted to destroy Iran Uranium, they wanted to destroy Iran missile capabilities. They have achieved nothing only killing 88 year old men and civilians in schools, hospitals like the terrorists they are

Meanwhile Iran got to find out they can control the strait of homoz and charge for it. Destroyed all US bases surrounding them, became a world power, France, Spain, China, Russia etc all trying to have legal relations with Iran.

Links to help you
https://www.ms.now/news/iran-retains-missile-capabilities-despite-trumps-claims-intelligence-reports-say

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/pakistan-iran-military-aircraft-on-its-airfields-us-mediator-role/

https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/an-iranian-vietnam-era-f-5-fighter-jet-slipped-past-patriot-pac-3-batteries-and-bombed-a-u-s-base-in-kuwait/
Re: Trump Warns Taiwan Against Declaring Independence, Hours After Summit With China by Fadman4real(m): 3:23pm On May 16
ViceGovernor:
The problem with you islamists is that you never accept the truth even when presented with the facts.

You said Iran is controlling the strait of Hormuz.....the same strait that a simple Google search would show you an Armada armed to teeth fully parked there with no no ship allowed into or out of Iran, it's obvious you are on a mission of self delusion.
The strait remains blocked while Iran loses $450,000,000 every single day, why are they running to Pakistan to help them beg??

I will leave you to wallow in your ignorance while the fact remains the fact Iran will never have a nuclear weapon as long as America is world power and Israel is still existence which will be forever ♾️.

That entire country has thousands of satellites parked over them and there is no hiding place if they pick shovel to dig anything missiles will follow immediately, so we'd like to see them try to build any nuclear related weapon.

You said he is begging China and Russia for help, United states with 18,000 warplanes and the highest amount of warships in the whole world is begging for help, you are clearly out of touch with reality........ president Trump said other Nations that make use of the strait should send their own contribution to secure it since the US does not use it they should not expect the US to secure it for them. ....the cowardly spineless leaders buried their heads in the sand as expected.
You know what's funny about you crusaders is that everyone that talks against the terrorist USA or the terrorist Israel is automatically an Islamist. I am a Christian who believes God is for all amd not just for some evil people eating and raping children as they have been exposed in Epstien files.

Back to the topic the useless armadas one of which was bombed during the war only for US to claim it was a toilet fire are far off the strait trying to blockade Irans blockade. If you read a little and not just Trump or Hegseth tweet you would have more knowledge of the situation.

Lmao you do know about 30 Chinese ships crossed the stairs with Iranian oil, Iran has a direct path to china through rail, they have a direct path to Russia through the caspian lake that no single American navy can dare enter.

Lmao u are taking about satellites that could not help your bases from getting completely destroyed in the war. Your satellites are limited and even when they see cant do shit.

As usual I would drop links for you to checkout probably to widen your horizon if knowledge cause Trump tweets would only make you dumber though at this point I doubt you can get dumber.



https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trump-warns-nato-faces-very-bad-future-if-allies-fail-help-us-iran-ft-reports-2026-03-16/
I mean if US controls the strait why is it asking for help to open it at least use half your brain.

Even if the US has 1 million airplanes it still lost this war and is still begging for help from all over the world. It is difficult for people like u who have spent their whole lives feeding of US propaganda to understand this but you can try.
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