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lightwind:
I am IGBO 100% full blooded IGBO from Imo state.

I no understand 🤔

Exactly why I do not take u serious.

Nefort:
Tinubu also has people like you "hyping" him on the internet. So why didn't AI choose him as a better leader? AI has analyzed Peter Obi's "hype" and Tinubu's "hype" and still came to the conclusion that Peter Obi is a better leader. That's why I said AI is accurate on this matter. Don't sound like Peter Obi is the only person with a "hype" available for AI to use.

You made me laugh. At least you agree that you're an.Obu hyper. I don't hype anybody belong I do not belong to anybody's camp. I'm a distant observer of all the political camps in Nigeria. I am not a supporter of anybody. What I say is just the truth that I see right now. That doesn't mean I won't criticize Tinubu in the next 30 minutes if I see him take a wrong action. Why don't you look through my Nairaland journey to see that I'm not a political scavenger.

But, Tinubu has no hypers like Obi who is hyper morning and night by his goons.

So Tinubu wasn't cursed when he was governor of Lagos State? And he is still currently being cursed as a disastrous president of Nigeria.

I never said Peter Obi is a saint but what makes me upset about you Tinubu supporters is that you hate Peter Obi but the alternative you are supporting is just worse than Peter Obi.

Now, you're talking.

Tinubu wasn't cursed when he was governor. Infact, he was celebrated. Hope that answers your question. You can just find out how he became the Lagos kingmaker. It was influence earned through trust.

But, before he became president, I hated him. To me, he was the most corrupt politician in Nigeria. I rated Obi above him. I was disappointed when Tinubu was declared winner of the 2023 election. I didn't expect anything from a Tinubu presidency..However, my perception of him began to change when I saw the work he was doing.

One thing very annoying about Obi is his absolute lack of sincerity. Trying to portray himself differently from what he is known to be is the most obnoxious form of image laundering to me. Very detestable.

If Obi has effectively come out and said "Hey, fellow Nigerians. I'm sorry I was part of the rotten leadership of this country, and i must admit that I have had my own many failings as a leader. However, I feel very sorry for my own leadership failures; and right now I humbly request a chance to lead this country to correct the leadership failings of many years. I've been there and I know exactly what to do to make things right." With this type of positioning, Obi would have gained my topmost respect instead of the hypocritical campaigns he's doing all about. It makes me see him as a deceiver. Honestly. I can never trust such a man in my life. He has no integrity. Obi has a very bad past in leadership going as far back as the Abacha days. He should just stop the deception.

Tinubu is a bad man but he clearly means well for Nigeria. This is without any doubt. Obi on the other hand is playing a game of deceit, making himself a saint when he's not one. I love that you yourself confessed you know the man is not a saint. You should be concerned about his deception.

Maybe there's another man out there that can beat Tinubu's record of repositioning Nigeria for greatness. There are, most definitely, but not Obi. Obi does not have the intelligence and the capacity to turn things around like Tinubu is currently doing. Just listen to his speech. He doesn't have that intelligence.

Finally, I am a supporter of Nigeria. Anything good for Nigeria is good for me. I don't support individual politicians or parties. That's foolishness. I support good governance, and the actions taken conscientiously by leaders to deliver Nigeria from its hydra headed woes.

FxMasterz:
Maybe there's another man out there that can beat Tinubu's record of repositioning Nigeria for greatness. There are, most definitely, but not Obi. Obi does not have the intelligence and the capacity to turn things around like Tinubu is currently doing. Just listen to his speech. He doesn't have that intelligence.

How do you confidently know it is not Obi? Have you seen tomorrow? As long as you haven't seen tomorrow you are not in the position to say it is not Obi. There is a reason why most educated people support Peter Obi. He won Tinubu's home base of Lagos and also Abuja because these places have higher numbers of educated people. Those who support Peter Obi are very much aware of his past. But we see him as someone who has recognized his past failures and wants to make corrections. We see him as someone who has demonstrated the strongest and most convincing intention to fix the problems Nigeria is experiencing. We see him as someone who has the best ideas to make country better. We are not 100% sure but we are placing our bets on him because we believe he will do better. He doesn't need to tell us he feels very sorry for his leadership failures of the past and needs a chance to correct them. We already know he feels this way and we are giving him the benefit of the doubt.

[quote author=zoomzoom post=139419362][/quote]It is called choice. Freedom of Association and Expression. I make my point and associate with what aligns with my ideology.

favor914:
Exactly why I do not take u serious.

IGBO the most classy tribe in Nigeria, industrious, handsome especially Imo guys. All dem Nigerian baybes wan marry from.

You be realfraf.

lightwind:
IGBO the most classy tribe in Nigeria, industrious, handsome especially Imo guys. All dem Nigerian baybes wan marry from.

You be realfraf.

Also the igbos are the most industrious tribe in Nigeria, maybe even Africa.

Notwithstanding Gringory Obi will never occupy Aso Rock as president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Nefort:
How do you confidently know it is not Obi? Have you seen tomorrow? As long as you haven't seen tomorrow you are not in the position to say it is not Obi. There is a reason why most educated people support Peter Obi. He won Tinubu's home base of Lagos and also Abuja because these places have higher numbers of educated people. Those who support Peter Obi are very much aware of his past. But we see him as someone who has recognized his past failures and wants to make corrections. We see him as someone who has demonstrated the strongest and most convincing intention to fix the problems Nigeria is experiencing. We see him as someone who has the best ideas to make country better. We are not 100% sure but we are placing our bets on him because we believe he will do better. He doesn't need to tell us he feels very sorry for his leadership failures of the past and needs a chance to correct them. We already know he feels this way and we are giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Can you just imagine what you.just spewed up there? I don't see any wisdom in "seeing him as someone who has realized his past mistakes" when he never said he did. And that's the very reason I distrust him. He is portraying himself as a saint when he is not one. He should first go clear himself, apologize for that his past, then he can tell us how he'll rescue Nigeria. That would be more honorable.

This his lack of integrity in the way he portrays himself is the very red ♥️ flag that makes me say NOT OBI. Such a person who has done no good but portrays himself as the best of all men, is a very dangerous man.

favor914:
Also the igbos are the most industrious tribe in Nigeria, maybe even Africa.

Notwithstanding Gringory Obi will never occupy Aso Rock as president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

I know you are the God of Nigerian politics and election results God na. The Oracle himself have spoken

favor914:
Please can u tell us what your state Governor & Local Government did with the funds that the Federal Government gave them for your benefit?

They all eat from same plate (APC).
I couldn't believe that a whole president (001 of a country) would go to commission darkness until a friend of mine from Bayelsa state told me that the Governor invited the president to go and commission gas darkness turbine and the president actually did 😂

Makinde over Obi, Kwakwanso, Amaechi and others ....

FxMasterz:
I don't see any wisdom in "seeing him as someone who has realized his past mistakes" when he never said he did

He doesn't need to say it because those words mean nothing to me. I pay attention to people's more recent actions to know where they currently stand. If you are waiting for him to say anything then that's your cup tea.

He should first go clear himself, apologize for that his past, then he can tell us how he'll rescue Nigeria. That would be more honorable.

Are you referring to Tinubu or Peter Obi because I am very much confused here. Bola Tinubu is the person that an apology is desperately needed from. His dirty laundry is what makes Peter Obi a saint when you compare both. A drug lord with a controversial background and the corrupt looter and Godfather of Lagos State who milks the state resources. This is the person an apology is really needed from. You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting such a person.

This his lack of integrity in the way he portrays himself is the very red ♥️ flag that makes me say NOT OBI. Such a person who has done no good but portrays himself as the best of all men, is a very dangerous man.

And Tinubu is the one who has integrity? What sort of clowning is this.?

If your name is Tunde or you are directly benefiting from Tinubu government you may say so so I would perfectly understand why you love Tinubu and then I would pardon you.

Nefort:
He doesn't need to say it because those words mean nothing to me. I pay attention to people's more recent actions to know where they currently stand. If you are waiting for him to say anything then that's your cup tea.

Obviously, you're just holding brief for your man. Tell me the recent governance actions of Obi that endeared him to you. I'll be waiting.

Are you referring to Tinubu or Peter Obi because I am very much confused here. Bola Tinubu is the person that an apology is desperately needed from. His dirty laundry is what makes Peter Obi a saint when you compare both. A drug lord with a controversial background and the corrupt looter and Godfather of Lagos State who milks the state resources. This is the person an apology is really needed from. You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting such a person.

Why would Tinubu need an apology when he never portrayed himself as a saint? He only said Enikookan, and that's all. If you like, vote for him, if you like, don't. Obi, on the other hand portrays himself as a saint when his antecedents says otherwise. He should first clear his name. Show remorse before claiming sainthood. Then,vee can say "Perhaps, he has changed". But with his current narratives, he is a deceiver.

And Tinubu is the one who has integrity? What sort of clowning is this.?

Read me with understanding. I didn't use unusual grammar in my texts. Tinubu is not claiming sainthood. Obi is. I didn't support Tinubu because I know him to be correct. But, he became president and hit the ground running. So far so good, I love his policies. I may not like them man but I.like his actions because that's what we need to turn Nigeria around.

Obi should stop portraying himself as a saint. He's not one. He should tell us he wants to be president, that's all. Just as some people voted Tinubu, they'll vote him too. He doesn't have to lie.

If your name is Tunde or you are directly benefiting from Tinubu government you may say so so I would perfectly understand why you love Tinubu and then I would pardon you.

You're thinking very immaturely. Are you supporting Obi because you Arere benefiting from him? Let me know so,I can understand you.

FxMasterz:
Why would Tinubu need an apology when he never portrayed himself as a saint? He only said Enikookan, and that's all. If you like, vote for him, if you like, don't. Obi, on the other hand portrays himself as a saint when his antecedents says otherwise. He should first clear his name. Show remorse before claiming sainthood. Then,vee can say "Perhaps, he has changed". But with his current narratives, he is a deceiver.


Read me with understanding. I didn't use unusual grammar in my texts. Tinubu is not claiming sainthood. Obi is. I didn't support Tinubu because I know him to be correct. But, he became president and hit the ground running. So far so good, I love his policies. I may not like them man but I.like his actions because that's what we need to turn Nigeria around.

Obi should stop portraying himself as a saint. He's not one. He should tell us he wants to be president, that's all. Just as some people voted Tinubu, they'll vote him too. He doesn't have to lie.

What sort of dumb response is this? How does Peter Obi portray himself as a saint while Tinubu is the person who is not portraying himself as a saint? Tinubu has been fighting tooth and nail to defend himself from his drug dealings and his controversial educational background. Isn't he also trying to portray himself as a saint? People normally defend themselves from accusations and that is exactly what Peter Obi and Tinubu has been doing. So telling me Obi is claiming to be a saint while Tinubu doesn't claim to be a saint is just stupid.

Your response now shows you have ran out of ammunition and you have nothing sensible to say anymore. I don't think I would waste my time replying you anymore.

Nefort:
What sort of dumb response is this? How does Peter Obi portray himself as a saint while Tinubu is the person who is not portraying himself as a saint? Tinubu has been fighting tooth and nail to defend himself from his drug dealings and his controversial educational background. Isn't he also trying to portray himself as a saint? People normally defend themselves from accusations and that is exactly what Peter Obi and Tinubu has been doing. So telling me Obi is claiming to be a saint while Tinubu doesn't claim to be a saint is just stupid.

Your response now shows you have ran out of ammunition and you have nothing sensible to say anymore. I don't think I would waste my time replying you anymore.

I have been refraining myself from being disrespectful but for a dumb person to call my response dumb, I will now show him how dumb he is.

If you don't see any wisdom and counsel for Obi in all that I wrote, I must say you're very p@thetic. Anyone with average IQ would know that I am neither supporting Obi nor Tinubu. I have woven my words as advice for Obi. Are you this unwise?

Tinubu presented himself as is. He didn't say, hey, I am the one who will rescue Nigeria from bad leadership. Did he say so? Those who wanted him still voted for him. He never claimed sainthood!

Now, Obi is the one saying he wants to rescue Nigeria from bad leadership when he is a bad leader himself. Tinubu cannot use that mantra because he himself cannot call himself a good leader. That'll be deception. So, he presented himself as is. Obi decided to deceive instead of him to also present himself as is, or go the apology way, and reinvent himself.

If Obi says he wants to rescue Nigeria from bad leadership, I will not trust him because he is also a known bad leader. But if he apologizes, and shows remorse for his past leadership actions with a view to setting new new records as president, he will have my ears. And he will have the ears of many more Nigerians! But for a bad leader to come and say he's the one that'll rescue the country from bad leadership without first renouncing his bad past, he is just a joker. He can only bewitch foolish people.

The best strategy for Obi is to first position himself as one who.has renounced his bad past and is ready to make amends as president. If Obi has positioned himself this way, then, I wouldn't need to ask if he rescued Anambra because he has already owned that past, and has decided to make amends. Simple wisdom! That's the way he can get thinking Nigerians behind him. He will distinguish himself among other politicians. I don't know why I must be doing kindergarten explanations for an adult.

It's very d*mb of you to be bringing Tinubu into.the matter because Tinubu never claimed himself a Messiah. Atiku never claimed himself a Messiah. If these two people also claim Messiah as Obi is doing, the best strategy for them too is the apology strategy. First own your past because everyone already knows it. Afterwards, cast a new vision. The fact that you owned your bad past will enable you gain trust. People will say "Let's give him a SECOND chance." Even people like Reno Omokri will not be able to pick on him.

If Obi is who he claims to be, why is he not using his governance past in Anambra as a testament to what he's capable of doing in Nigeria? Why can't he make any reference to his Anambra performance? You want to answer that for him? It's because he knows he was a failure! But instead of owning that failure, he wants to deceive his way into the presidency. That's what makes him dangerous.

Atiku doesn't need to own any past because he has not promised any new thing. He just wants to be president. That's all. He's presenting himself as is. If you.like him like that, vote for him. He is not deceiving anybody claiming the only saintly man that'll rescue Nigeria like Obi is doing. Let Obi also present himself as is! Simple. He should stop the deception. Or better still, he should come out clean, then cast a new vision. That'll be a highly effectively and strategic move.

Or, if you still disagree, kindly tell me why Obi is not using Anambra to campaign for his presidency? I will be waiting.

And i.am still waiting for the result of your d@mb talk "I judge people by their most recent actions". You have still not told me the most recent governance actions Obi has taken that made you trust him. Lol.

GravityDefier:
They all eat from same plate (APC).
I couldn't believe that a whole president (001 of a country) would go to commission darkness until a friend of mine from Bayelsa state told me that the Governor invited the president to go and commission gas darkness turbine and the president actually did 😂

Who are u blaming for your President going to commission darkness?

Nefort:
What sort of dumb response is this? How does Peter Obi portray himself as a saint while Tinubu is the person who is not portraying himself as a saint? Tinubu has been fighting tooth and nail to defend himself from his drug dealings and his controversial educational background. Isn't he also trying to portray himself as a saint? People normally defend themselves from accusations and that is exactly what Peter Obi and Tinubu has been doing. So telling me Obi is claiming to be a saint while Tinubu doesn't claim to be a saint is just stupid.

Your response now shows you have ran out of ammunition and you have nothing sensible to say anymore. I don't think I would waste my time replying you anymore.

Saint Gringory Obi of Agulu Diocese.

Mitsurugi:
You people should stop this gaslighting nonsense. Why isn't Atiku held responsible for the split up of the coalition? Why Obi? This same Atiku wrecked the PDP with his selfishness and yet Obi is the problem. Which party has Obi ever wrecked in his wake? Whichever marabout that promised Atiku the Nigerian Presidency should be held responsible for his lack of wisdom.

Obi's greed and lack of common sense is the culprit here

FxMasterz:
Tinubu presented himself as is. He didn't say, hey, I am the one who will rescue Nigeria from bad leadership. Did he say so? Those who wanted him still voted for him. He never claimed sainthood!

Now, Obi is the one saying he wants to rescue Nigeria from bad leadership when he is a bad leader himself. Tinubu cannot use that mantra because he himself cannot call himself a good leader. That'll be deception. So, he presented himself as is. Obi decided to deceive instead of him to also present himself as is, or go the apology way, and reinvent himself.

This is the reason why I said your responses are dumb and that's the truth. Are you telling me that Tinubu didn't make any campaign promises to be a good a leader and improve the country? He just declared his interest to run for president and "presented himself as is" and people voted for him? How does this nonsense sound to you? I still don't understand what you mean by "sainthood" because Peter Obi himself never said he is a saint. He only promised to make the country better just like Tinubu also did. Please check the link below and see the promises that Tinubu made:
https://punchng.com/manifesto-tinubus-10-promises-to-nigerians/

It's very d*mb of you to be bringing Tinubu into.the matter because Tinubu never claimed himself a Messiah. Atiku never claimed himself a Messiah. If these two people also claim Messiah as Obi is doing, the best strategy for them too is the apology strategy.

Anyone that is running for public office automatically claims to be the Messiah by default. That's what their campaign promises is meant to achieve. They all claim to be a Messiah. Telling me that Obi is claiming to be the Messiah while Tinubu and Atiku are not claiming so is just nonsense.

And i.am still waiting for the result of your d@mb talk "I judge people by their most recent actions". You have still not told me the most recent governance actions Obi has taken that made you trust him. Lol.

When I say I judge people by the their actions I specifically mean the things people say and how they conduct themselves in public. I never mentioned anything about "governance actions" as you phrased it..

Your comments above were really meaningless and I have pointed them out to you but you still wouldn't realize it.

favor914:
Who are u blaming for your President going to commission darkness?

Both the builder of darkness (Governor) and the commissioner of darkness (Mr. President). None exclusive.

Nefort:
This is the reason why I said your responses are dumb and that's the truth. Are you telling me that Tinubu didn't make any campaign promises to be a good a leader and improve the country? He just declared his interest to run for president and "presented himself as is" and people voted for him? How does this nonsense sound to you? I still don't understand what you mean by "sainthood" because Peter Obi himself never said he is a saint. He only promised to make the country better just like Tinubu also did. Please check the link below and see the promises that Tinubu made:
https://punchng.com/manifesto-tinubus-10-promises-to-nigerians/

Are you this low? How's campaign promises the same as self portrayal? Can you tell me that Tinubu portrayed himself to be what he's not like Obi is doing?

Obi is not just making promises. He's making a portrayal. Can't you see, or you want to defend the deceiver by all means?

You're actually less intelligent than I thought, and I don't know if I should continue engaging you. We're talking about methodology, he's talking about personality!

Can't you separate methodology from personality? Tinubu's method is "I may be bad, I'm not denying that. But vote me, I will do you good". He make any portrayal whatsoever. That's not deceitful, that's just saying vote me if you want. Obi's method is "I'm good (meanwhile he's bad. Very bad), vote me I will rescue you from the hands of the bad". That's deceitful, he' lacks integrity. Can't you see what we're taking about or is this a self inflicted f@@lishness?

Reno Omokri today is not attacking Obi, he's attacking his insincerity and lack of integrity in the image he is portraying. He can't attack other candidates like that because they never try to assume personalities they didn't have.

Anyone that is running for public office automatically claims to be the Messiah by default. That's what their campaign promises is meant to achieve. They all claim to be a Messiah. Telling me that Obi is claiming to be the Messiah while Tinubu and Atiku are not claiming so is just nonsense.

Very unintelligent submission. Obi is doing more than just claiming Messiah. He's claiming he has no bad records. You his hypers are all over the place claiming he's the best thing after sliced bread. Meanwhile, nothing in his past proves he is. When Adeyanju challenged his claims and made grievous allegations on him, why did Obi not go to court as promised? Adeyanju even pestered Obi to sue him, Obi could not summon the courage to do so. Only f@@lish people will take such a man as Obi serious. Honestly. Did I hear you say he didn't claim sainthood? You even added lying to your reasoning deficiency.

When I say I judge people by the their actions I specifically mean the things people say and how they conduct themselves in public. I never mentioned anything about "governance actions" as you phrased it..

Are you a kid? We were talking governance when you made that statement. All our discussions so far are based on governance. How can you detach that statement from its premise? One must be very bereft of sound reasoning to base his judgements on what people say and how they conduct themselves in public without further recourse to how they have previously handled specific responsibilities. Are you kidding me? So, you don't know that there's a word called "pretense" or even 'image laundering'?

Your comments above were really meaningless and I have pointed them out to you but you still wouldn't realize it.

They're meaningless because your ability to grasp simple logic and be in tune with current reality is very low.

FxMasterz:
Are you this low? How's campaign promises the same as self portrayal? Can you tell me that Tinubu portrayed himself to be what he's not like Obi is doing?

Obi is not just making promises. He's making a portrayal. Can't you see, or you want to defend the deceiver by all means?

Can't you separate methodology from personality? Tinubu's method is "I may be bad, I'm not denying that. But vote me, I will do you good". He make any portrayal whatsoever. That's not deceitful, that's just saying vote me if you want. Obi's method is "I'm good (meanwhile he's bad. Very bad), vote me I will rescue you from the hands of the bad". That's deceitful, he' lacks integrity. Can't you see what we're taking about or is this a self inflicted f@@lishness?

Can you show me situational examples that clearly shows that Tinubu is not portraying himself to be a saint while Peter Obi is portraying himself to be a saint? Show me when Tinubu accepted he is not a good person and then show me when Peter Obi claimed that he is a saint.

Nefort:
Can you show me situational examples that clearly shows that Tinubu is not portraying himself to be a saint while Peter Obi is portraying himself to be a saint? Show me when Tinubu accepted he is not a good person and then show me when Peter Obi claimed that he is a saint.

Abeg, go and sit down!

Who among the president aspirants have been portraying himself as a clean politician? Even a two year old knows the answer. Tinubu and others simply portray themselves as politicians. That'd all. Only Obi projects himself as a very clean politician who will rescue Nigeria. Who doesn't know the in the country? Please, shut.

FxMasterz:
Abeg, go and sit down!

Who among the president aspirants have been portraying himself as a clean politician? Even a two year old knows the answer. Tinubu and others simply portray themselves as politicians. That'd all. Only Obi projects himself as a very clean politician who will rescue Nigeria. Who doesn't know the in the country? Please, shut.

You still failed to back up your assertions with clear evidence. Isn't it now obvious that you have been saying a load of nonsense without proof? I asked you to give me examples showing that Tinubu accepted he is a criminal while Peter Obi claimed to be a saint and you failed.

If you accuse Tinubu of looting Lagos state treasury he will deny it. If you accuse him of drug dealing he will deny it. If you accuse him of certificate forgery he will also deny it. Isn't he also trying to be a saint by denying all accusations against him?

Peter Obi is actually a clean politician when compared to Tinubu and a whole lot of other disastrous politicians. So he is not completely wrong if he says he is clean. Even if he portrays himself as a clean politician why should it be a substantial reason not to vote for him and how does it prove he will be a bad leader? Voting for Tinubu who in your words doesn't portray himself as a man of integrity and role model is actually worse than voting for Peter Obi who is promoting positivity in character.

Honestly you have no sensible thing to say to support your argument. You are just looking for ways to defend your emptiness.

Nefort:
You still failed to back up your assertions with clear evidence. Isn't it now obvious that you have been saying a load of nonsense without proof? I asked you to give me examples showing that Tinubu accepted he is a criminal while Peter Obi claimed to be a saint and you failed.

Oya, give me the exact sentence where I said Tinubu accepted he is criminal. You're just as deceptive as your Obi.

Quote where I said Tinubu accepted he is a criminal!

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f you accuse Tinubu of looting Lagos state treasury he will deny it. If you accuse him of drug dealing he will deny it. If you accuse him of certificate forgery he will also deny it. Isn't he also trying to be a saint by denying all accusations against him?

Nonesene!

Denying an allegation or a series of allegations is not and has never been a claim to sainthood!

Peter Obi is actually a clean politician when compared to Tinubu and a whole lot of other disastrous politicians. So he is not completely wrong if he says he is clean. Even if he portrays himself as a clean politician why should it be a substantial reason not to vote for him and how does it prove he will be a bad leader? Voting for Tinubu who in your words doesn't portray himself as a man of integrity and role model is actually worse than voting for Peter Obi who is promoting positivity in character.

Hehehe.

1. Ask Obi how he spent the LG funds allocated to his office over the 7yrs in which he failed to conduct LG elections.

2. Oya, tell us why Doctors went on strike in Anambra for 13 months for lack of payments.

3. Obi spokesman, tell us why your Lord and savior hid money in Panama without declaring it.

4. Tell us any substantial and Verifiable project Obi undercook as Anambra governor during his eight year tenure.

5. All the allocations he received for 8yrs, what did he do with them?

6. Where is James Nwafor of the Akwuzu SARs that murdered Anambra youths like goats. He is a close Ally of Obi, why is Obi not talking about him?

7. Tell me why Anambrans were complaining about Obi here on Nairaland as far back as 2008. See attached screenshots.

8. Tell us what Obi was afraid of. Adeyanju said Obi is corrupt and that he'll prove it in court if Obi dues him. Obi threatened litigations but couldn't make good his threat. What was he afraid of? Adeyanju pestered the lying machine to sue him, but the fake man couldn't muster enough courage to do so. What was he afraid of? Can you tell us?

Adeyanju openly called Obi a criminal, yet Obi could not defend his own name. Tell us what he was afraid of!

Honestly you have no sensible thing to say to support your argument. You are just looking for ways to defend your emptiness.

That's your exact self in the open square . Prove you're not empty by responding intelligently to all 8 critical issues I raised above.

Tell us how someone who failed as a governor of small Anambra will succeed as a president of a homongous Nigeria.

FxMasterz:
Oya, give me the exact sentence where I said Tinubu accepted he is criminal. You're just as deceptive as your Obi.

Quote where I said Tinubu accepted he is a criminal!

You said Tinubu doesn't portray himself as a good person. That he owns up to his flaws and presents himself as is. This means he has accepted he is a bad person. A drug dealer and a corrupt person. Those are criminal offences. How else do you want to explain it?

Nonesene!

Denying an allegation or a series of allegations is not and has never been a claim to sainthood!

Then explain to me with examples why you think Peter Obi portrays himself as a saint. Stop wasting my time.

Hehehe.

1. Ask Obi how he spent the LG funds allocated to his office over the 7yrs in which he failed to conduct LG elections.

2. Oya, tell us why Doctors went on strike in Anambra for 13 months for lack of payments.

3. Obi spokesman, tell us why your Lord and savior hid money in Panama without declaring it.

4. Tell us any substantial and Verifiable project Obi undercook as Anambra governor during his eight year tenure.

5. All the allocations he received for 8yrs, what did he do with them?

6. Where is James Nwafor of the Akwuzu SARs that murdered Anambra youths like goats. He is a close Ally of Obi, why is Obi not talking about him?

7. Tell me why Anambrans were complaining about Obi here on Nairaland as far back as 2008. See attached screenshots.

8. Tell us what Obi was afraid of. Adeyanju said Obi is corrupt and that he'll prove it in court if Obi dues him. Obi threatened litigations but couldn't make good his threat. What was he afraid of? Adeyanju pestered the lying machine to sue him, but the fake man couldn't muster enough courage to do so. What was he afraid of? Can you tell us?

Adeyanju openly called Obi a criminal, yet Obi could not defend his own name. Tell us what he was afraid of!



That's your exact self in the open square . Prove you're not empty by responding intelligently to all 8 critical issues I raised above.

Tell us how someone who failed as a governor of small Anambra will succeed as a president of a homongous Nigeria.

You think you sound intelligent but you are misleading yourself. The fact that you are using posts from Nairaland to prove he failed as governor of Anambra is actually laughable because you can't please everyone as a leader. Some people will complain about your leadership no matter what you do. If 10 people out of 1000 people are dissatisfied you can as well use the opinion of that 10 people to conclude that everyone is dissatisfied. That's how foolish it appears. If Peter Obi failed then how did he get re-elected as Anambra state governor?

The problem with your list is that you are only focusing on areas that Peter Obi may not have done well. So have you asked yourself about the areas he did well? You must have to dig up the areas he did well and counterbalance before you conclude he failed. There is no leader on earth that got every decision right. Some areas will be handled correctly while some other areas may not be handled correctly. So expecting Peter Obi to score 100% is not being realistic.

It's laughable for you to assume that Peter achieved absolutely nothing as governor of Anambra state because you are only focusing on the dark areas. Here are the things Peter Obi achieved as governor and then use them to counter balance the things he didn't get right:

1. Brought major corporate institutions into the state, including the multi-million dollar SABMiller Brewery plant in Onitsha and local support for the Innoson Motors manufacturing facility.

2. Facilitated the exploration and eventual inclusion of Anambra into Nigeria's community of oil-producing states.

3. Urban Masterplans: Undertook the first comprehensive aerial mapping of Awka and created structural expansion masterplans for Onitsha, Awka, and Nnewi.

3. Road Network Expansion: Constructed and rehabilitated over 800 kilometres of roads, leading the Federal Ministry of Works to rate Anambra as having the best road network in Nigeria at the time.

4. State Secretariat: Built the Jerome Udoji Secretariat Complex in Awka to bring state ministries under a unified, modern facility.

5. Community Policing: Provided more than 500 security patrol vehicles to the police, military, and local vigilante setups, drastically lowering high crime rates.

6. First Teaching Hospital: Built the Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu Teaching Hospital in Awka from scratch, facilitating the accreditation of the state's medical programs.

7. Specialized Infrastructure: Constructed the Joseph Nwilo Heart Centre and established subsidized dialysis, kidney, and cancer treatment units.

8. Global Recognition: Secured a $1 million grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation for outstanding performance in polio eradication and maternal health initiatives.

9. Mission Schools Return: Handed public-managed mission schools back to their original owners (Churches) while continuing to provide state funding and grants.

10. Performance Surge: Drove Anambra's National Examination ranking from 26th to 1st place in the West African Senior School Certificate Examination (WASSCE).

11. ICT Infrastructure: Procured and distributed over 30,000 computers and set up Microsoft Academies in more than 500 secondary schools.

12. School Logistics: Distributed over 700 buses to secondary schools across the state to ease student and teacher transit.

13. Sub-Sovereign Wealth Savings: Initiated Nigeria’s first state-level sovereign savings scheme, leaving ₦75 billion (including $156 million in foreign currency bonds) in the state coffers for his successor.

14. Debt Transparency: Left Anambra as one of the least indebted states in the country, refusing to borrow or issue bonds during his time in office.

15. Fiscal Responsibility Act: Passed the Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2007 to ensure long-term transparency and eliminate wasteful government expenditure.

16. Cleared Backlogs: Fully cleared a backlog of pensions and gratuities that had been owed to civil servants since 1996.

So what's your problem?

Nefort:
You said Tinubu doesn't portray himself as a good person. That he owns up to his flaws and presents himself as is. This means he has accepted he is a bad person. A drug dealer and a corrupt person. Those are criminal offences. How else do you want to explain it?

Honestly, you're very dubious. How does someone presenting himself as is, translate to him accepting your accusations? Presenting myself as I am, does not mean I am who you say I am. Those are two different things. Or, what type of unintelligent talk is this?

Then explain to me with examples why you think Peter Obi portrays himself as a saint. Stop wasting my time.

You think you're talking to a fool? You're actually only clever by half. I have presented the Adeyanju scenario several times. Were you reading without your goggles?

You think you sound intelligent but you are misleading yourself. The fact that you are using posts from Nairaland to prove he failed as governor of Anambra is actually laughable because you can't please everyone as a leader. Some people will complain about your leadership no matter what you do. If 10 people out of 1000 people are dissatisfied you can as well use the opinion of that 10 people to conclude that everyone is dissatisfied. That's how foolish it appears. If Peter Obi failed then how did he get re-elected as Anambra state governor?

No, the Nairaland threads were created during Obi's incumbency. All the Anambrans that complained about him with no single Anambran able to defend him speaks volumes. Nairaland is an open forum dear.

This, coupled with the fact that Obi has been running for president for years, but he is too ashamed to allude to anything he did in Anambra as a reference for what he'll do with Nigeria. If Obi didn't fail in Anambra, why can't he use his 8 year tenure there as a reference point for good governance? Shouldn't that be an achievement?

The problem with your list is that you are only focusing on areas that Peter Obi may not have done well. So have you asked yourself about the areas he did well? You must have to dig up the areas he did well and counterbalance before you conclude he failed. There is no leader on earth that got every decision right. Some areas will be handled correctly while some other areas may not be handled correctly. So expecting Peter Obi to score 100% is not being realistic.

It's laughable for you to assume that Peter achieved absolutely nothing as governor of Anambra state because you are only focusing on the dark areas. Here are the things Peter Obi achieved as governor and then use them to counter balance the things he didn't get right:

1. Brought major corporate institutions into the state, including the multi-million dollar SABMiller Brewery plant in Onitsha and local support for the Innoson Motors manufacturing facility.

Lol. How much is SABMiller worth today? Care to answer? He didn't see any better thing to do with Anambra's money other than this silly investment?

I'm happy, you also know that your Obi didn't do well. No need to sugarcoat the bolded.

2. Facilitated the exploration and eventual inclusion of Anambra into Nigeria's community of oil-producing states.

How's this an achievement? This is a Federal Government activity!

3. Urban Masterplans: Undertook the first comprehensive aerial mapping of Awka and created structural expansion masterplans for Onitsha, Awka, and Nnewi.

Lol. Every government does this. What's special about regional and urban planning? Lol. Is this what he'll do with Nigeria? Bwahahaha.

3. Road Network Expansion: Constructed and rehabilitated over 800 kilometres of roads, leading the Federal Ministry of Works to rate Anambra as having the best road network in Nigeria at the time.

Bwahahaha , no proof. Only talk-talk. Provide proofs!

While this may be commendable if proven, it does not make him a good politician. There are many south eastern politicians that achieved much more. Tinubu achieved much more than this in Lagos.

But he's also the one condemning the roads being built by this government abi?

4. State Secretariat: Built the Jerome Udoji Secretariat Complex in Awka to bring state ministries under a unified, modern facility.

Abeg, go siddon. What did he build? If he built anything worthwhile, why is Soludo building another one after how many years. Are you into comedy?
Why is Soludo making major infrastructural upgrades at the Anambra State Secretariat (Jerome Udoji Secretariat Complex) in Awka?

5. Community Policing: Provided more than 500 security patrol vehicles to the police, military, and local vigilante setups, drastically lowering high crime rates.

Nothing extraordinary. It does not make him an extraordinary politician. Lol.

6. First Teaching Hospital: Built the Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu Teaching Hospital in Awka from scratch, facilitating the accreditation of the state's medical programs.

7. Specialized Infrastructure: Constructed the Joseph Nwilo Heart Centre and established subsidized dialysis, kidney, and cancer treatment units.

8. Global Recognition: Secured a $1 million grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation for outstanding performance in polio eradication and maternal health initiatives.

9. Mission Schools Return: Handed public-managed mission schools back to their original owners (Churches) while continuing to provide state funding and grants.

10. Performance Surge: Drove Anambra's National Examination ranking from 26th to 1st place in the West African Senior School Certificate Examination (WASSCE).

11. ICT Infrastructure: Procured and distributed over 30,000 computers and set up Microsoft Academies in more than 500 secondary schools.

12. School Logistics: Distributed over 700 buses to secondary schools across the state to ease student and teacher transit.

13. Sub-Sovereign Wealth Savings: Initiated Nigeria’s first state-level sovereign savings scheme, leaving ₦75 billion (including $156 million in foreign currency bonds) in the state coffers for his successor.

14. Debt Transparency: Left Anambra as one of the least indebted states in the country, refusing to borrow or issue bonds during his time in office.

15. Fiscal Responsibility Act: Passed the Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2007 to ensure long-term transparency and eliminate wasteful government expenditure.

16. Cleared Backlogs: Fully cleared a backlog of pensions and gratuities that had been owed to civil servants since 1996.

So what's your problem?

You're the one who has a problem dear. All these unverifiable lists cannot suffice to make Obi special. I don't see any extraordinary performance that dwarfs even the 8 points I made against him earlier. All you listed are normal government things. Dave Umahi performed much better than Obi as governor of Ebonyi. Alex Otti has surpassed his records in Aba. Soludo is doing extraordinary things. Give me Obi's extraordinary performances that placed him above all other politicians, for him to think he's the rescuer of Nigeria. Tinubu outperformed Obi as governor of Lagos. That man left legacies including humans he mentored.

Nairaland does not support more that 4 uploads, I would have given you tons of evidences of Tinubu's mega inputs.

You're just all noise no substance. You couldn't even provide any extraordinary performances of Obi that justifies his current positioning. You also admitted that all the 8 evils he did were areas he didn't do well. Those areas matter so much because they stick.

This same Obi sacked all non Anambra indigenes from the civil service. Including indigenes from Enugu who were once part of the state when Anambra and Enugu belonged to the same Anambra state.

FxMasterz:
Honestly, you're very dubious. How does someone presenting himself as is, translate to him accepting your accusations? Presenting myself as I am, does not mean I am who you say I am. Those are two different things. Or, what type of unintelligent talk is this?

You keep running around in circles each time I point out your reasoning deficiencies. Only God knows what you mean by saying "presenting himself as is" when you claim he still denies proven accusations against him like being a drug dealer and siphoning the the wealth of Lagos state.

You think you're talking to a fool? You're actually only wise by half. I have presented the Adeyanju scenario several times. Were you reading without your goggles?

So how does that prove Obi is presenting himself as saint as you claimed? You still haven't answered.

If Obi didn't fail in Anambra, why can't he use his 8 year tenure there as a reference point for good governance? Shouldn't that be an achievement?

Who told you he doesn't reference his achievements in Anambra? Go and listen to all his interviews and come back. I previously asked you a question which you didn't answer; If you think Peter Obi failed, why did the people of Anambra vote for him for a second term? A few Nairaland posts calling him a failure doesn't matter because they are just few and likely from opposition parties. It is the votes from the collective people of Anambra that determines whether he is a failure or not.

Lol. How much is SABMiller worth today? Care to answer? He didn't see any better thing to do with Anambra's money other than this silly investment?

Another dumb comment. The current worth of SABMiller doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact that the investment was genuine and from a good intention. When people make investments they do so with hope that it yields fruits in the future. Unfortunately situation changes and not every investment turns out great. Dangote has lost money in investments. Does it mean he is a bad businessman? I am so glad to educate you.

I'm happy, you also know that your Boi didn't do well. No need to sugarcoat the bolded

Please where did I admit he didn't do well? I only told you stop focusing only on the areas he may not have done well. There are things he actually accomplished and when you consider both the good and the bad his performance is still good. Unfortunately you want to only focus on the negative things to suit your agenda of calling him a failure. No leader on earth has a 100% score card.

Lol. Every government does this. What's special about regional and urban planning? Lol. Is this what he'll do with Nigeria? Bwahahaha.


Bwahahaha , no proof. Only talk-talk. Provide proofs!

While this may be commendable if proven, it does not make him a good politician. There are many south eastern politicians that achieved much more. Tinubu achieved much more than this in Lagos.

But he's also the one condemning the roads being built by this government abi?


Abeg, go siddon. What did he build? If he built anything worthwhile, why is Soludo building another one after how many years. Are you into comedy?
Why is Soludo making major infrastructural upgrades at the Anambra State Secretariat (Jerome Udoji Secretariat Complex) in Awka?


Nothing extraordinary. It does not make him an extraordinary politician. Lol.



You're the one who has a problem dear. All these unverifiable lists cannot suffice to make Obi special. I don't see any extra ordinary performance that dwarfs even the 8 points I made against him earlier. All you listed are normal government things. Dave Umahi performed much better than Obi as governor of Ebonyi. Alex Otti has surpassed his records in Abs. Solid is doing extraordinary things. Give me Obi's extraordinary performances that placed him above all other politicians, for him to think he's the rescuer of Nigeria. Tinubu outperformed Obi as governor of Lagos. That man left legacies including humans he mentored.

Nairaland does not support more that 4 uploads, I would have given you tons of evidences of Tinubu's mega inputs.

You're just all noise no substance. You couldn't even provide any extraordinary performances of Obi that justifies his current positioning. You also admitted that all the 8 evils he did were areas he didn't do well. Those areas matter so much because they stick.

This same Obi sacked all non Anambra indigenes from the civil service. Including indigenes from Enugu who were once part of the state when Anambra and Enugu belonged to the same Anambra state.

So you want to dismiss his good efforts as irrelevant and unverified while you regard his mistakes as relevant and verified? Just because you are desperately looking for ways to support your false claims that Peter Obi is a failure and he claims to be a saint? It's just pathetic.