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MartinCorridon:
Lol you think Man City sacked him?

Pep ALWAYS walks away. Only Bayern that really didn't want him when he left.

And that's because his experiments didn't work in Champions League. They went from unplayable to beatable.

I did not say they sack him

richmond500:
He is the greatest coach ever to walk the planet.
Not even Ferguson comes close

Ferguson built United from scratch to make it a world force in his time,guardiola is the big money man who had the resources to get what he wanted, he won only 1 champions league despite all that money spent......he is good morning doubt but you running down fergie is an insult.

Lamasta:
Gary Neville that played under Fergie too confirmed Pep as a genius who is you and I to be arguing again.....

Didn't I say his Great in the end. City fans and anger

Let almighty Madrid pick him up to be their manager and see UCL and LaLiga back to back .. Real Madrid wil call him..

yomi531:
Guy swear to God say u won't win league with Bayern. Just talk true

What do you mean? Tuchel, a very experienced coach couldn't win league with Bayern, what is my assurance that I can? Am I better than Tuchel who won UCL for Chelsea?

Kalulu44:
First of all who brought this argument? Only you arguing with yourself. Pay your Pep respect and leave others with their own.
Call me when Pep can take average teams like Aberdeen to dominate where Celtic and Rangers were. And even using that same team to defeat Real Madrid in a European final. Thank God you admitted Fergie build United from the ground.
Pep met a City team that has won the EPL twice before he came, been to the ucl semi final before.
Unlike Fergie that met a United side on the low and haven't won a league title for 26yrs.
Go and check, Aberdeen hasn't won the Scottish league since Fergie left.
Let's see Pep manage one of those average or midtable teams and see how he will fair.
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With all what I have said, I didn't in anywhere downplay Pep's impact and genius. But just celebrate him and leave Fergie out of it.

You forgot that Pep met a City that hasn't ever won the UCL before in their entire history and he gave them the UCL, unlike Fergie who met a United that has won a UCL before .

Smartguyboy:
Best coach in the world 🌎
Nobody come close.

If you want to win trophies his the man for the job, just keep your money .

There is a man called Ancelotti

The question are
1. How much did he spend on his team compared to Fergie?

2. How many players did he bring from academy to his first team and became main part of the serial winning compared to Fergie?

Remove money from Pep and he's feather weight in England

elder1002:
The best there was and there is

4 premier league in a row

Set the bar so high that you need to be consistent to win the league cup.

Master tactician and strategist

Converts average players to play one of the beautiful football ever seen in premier league


The best manager there ever was in premier league.

Pep




*Why Pep edges Fergie in the first 10 years*

Look at it straight up: *20 trophies in 10 years vs 6*. That’s not a small gap.

*1. He won more, and he won bigger*
Pep’s haul at City from 2016-2026:

*6 Premier Leagues,
1 Champions League,
5 League Cups,
3 FA Cups,
3 Community Shields,
1 UEFA Super Cup,
1 Club World Cup*.

That’s 4 titles in a row from 2021-2024 – no English club has ever done that. 100 points, 98 points, 93 points seasons. He didn’t just win, he broke the ceiling of what winning looks like in the PL.

Fergie in his first 10 years at United 1986-1996:
*3 PLs,
1 FA Cup,
1 League Cup,
1 Cup Winners’ Cup*.

Respect to the rebuild, but the output isn’t close.

*2. He did it in a tougher league*

Pep’s City had to beat peak Klopp Liverpool, this Arsenal team, and a Chelsea side spending crazy money just to get to May with the title. Every game in the PL now is a fight. Fergie’s early dominance came before the money flooded in and before every mid-table team had a tactical coach and data team.

*3. He changed the game, not just his club*
Go to any academy or watch any PL game now and you’ll see Pep’s fingerprints. Inverted fullbacks, controlled possession, pressing traps, false nines. Managers across Europe copied him because it worked. Fergie was a master man-manager and could adapt, but he didn’t set the tactical blueprint for the next 20 years.

*4. He delivered in Europe when it mattered*

City’s first ever Champions League in 2023, plus 6 straight semis in 10 years. The UCL now is a minefield – every knockout tie is against another billion-pound squad. Fergie didn’t even get to a UCL final in his first 10 years.

*5. He kept it going without falling off*
Pep rebuilt that City squad 3 times. KDB aging, Aguero leaving, Cancelo drama, still they win. The system outlives the players. Fergie’s first 10 years was about building the culture. Once it was built, the trophies came in waves. Pep had the waves immediately.

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Fergie built United from the ground up and that deserves respect. But if we’re talking pure results, dominance, and impact on the game in the first 10 years, *Pep’s numbers and influence are on another level*.

20 trophies. 4 in a row. Changed how football is played. That’s the argument.

elder1002:
The best there was and there is

4 premier league in a row

Set the bar so high that you need to be consistent to win the league cup.

Master tactician and strategist

Converts average players to play one of the beautiful football ever seen in premier league


The best manager there ever was in premier league.

Pep




*Why Pep edges Fergie in the first 10 years*

Look at it straight up: *20 trophies in 10 years vs 6*. That’s not a small gap.

*1. He won more, and he won bigger*
Pep’s haul at City from 2016-2026:

*6 Premier Leagues,
1 Champions League,
5 League Cups,
3 FA Cups,
3 Community Shields,
1 UEFA Super Cup,
1 Club World Cup*.

That’s 4 titles in a row from 2021-2024 – no English club has ever done that. 100 points, 98 points, 93 points seasons. He didn’t just win, he broke the ceiling of what winning looks like in the PL.

Fergie in his first 10 years at United 1986-1996:
*3 PLs,
1 FA Cup,
1 League Cup,
1 Cup Winners’ Cup*.

Respect to the rebuild, but the output isn’t close.

*2. He did it in a tougher league*

Pep’s City had to beat peak Klopp Liverpool, this Arsenal team, and a Chelsea side spending crazy money just to get to May with the title. Every game in the PL now is a fight. Fergie’s early dominance came before the money flooded in and before every mid-table team had a tactical coach and data team.

*3. He changed the game, not just his club*
Go to any academy or watch any PL game now and you’ll see Pep’s fingerprints. Inverted fullbacks, controlled possession, pressing traps, false nines. Managers across Europe copied him because it worked. Fergie was a master man-manager and could adapt, but he didn’t set the tactical blueprint for the next 20 years.

*4. He delivered in Europe when it mattered*

City’s first ever Champions League in 2023, plus 6 straight semis in 10 years. The UCL now is a minefield – every knockout tie is against another billion-pound squad. Fergie didn’t even get to a UCL final in his first 10 years.

*5. He kept it going without falling off*
Pep rebuilt that City squad 3 times. KDB aging, Aguero leaving, Cancelo drama, still they win. The system outlives the players. Fergie’s first 10 years was about building the culture. Once it was built, the trophies came in waves. Pep had the waves immediately.

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Fergie built United from the ground up and that deserves respect. But if we’re talking pure results, dominance, and impact on the game in the first 10 years, *Pep’s numbers and influence are on another level*.

20 trophies. 4 in a row. Changed how football is played. That’s the argument.

is it a must you compare my 20year old son to your own 10 year son ? Must you ? Should you ? Why not just celebrate individually and lets move on
... but kids are great.....

geoworldedu:
They were not competing in the Conference league before he came. They won't compete in the Conference League when he is gone. Maresca the club world cup winner will take charge.

Maresca will help them to win the conference league 5 times in a row.

There was no conference league before Guardiola arrived in Man City

elder1002:
The best there was and there is

4 premier league in a row

Set the bar so high that you need to be consistent to win the league cup.

Master tactician and strategist

Converts average players to play one of the beautiful football ever seen in premier league


The best manager there ever was in premier league.

Pep




*Why Pep edges Fergie in the first 10 years*

Look at it straight up: *20 trophies in 10 years vs 6*. That’s not a small gap.

*1. He won more, and he won bigger*
Pep’s haul at City from 2016-2026:

*6 Premier Leagues,
1 Champions League,
5 League Cups,
3 FA Cups,
3 Community Shields,
1 UEFA Super Cup,
1 Club World Cup*.

That’s 4 titles in a row from 2021-2024 – no English club has ever done that. 100 points, 98 points, 93 points seasons. He didn’t just win, he broke the ceiling of what winning looks like in the PL.

Fergie in his first 10 years at United 1986-1996:
*3 PLs,
1 FA Cup,
1 League Cup,
1 Cup Winners’ Cup*.

Respect to the rebuild, but the output isn’t close.

*2. He did it in a tougher league*

Pep’s City had to beat peak Klopp Liverpool, this Arsenal team, and a Chelsea side spending crazy money just to get to May with the title. Every game in the PL now is a fight. Fergie’s early dominance came before the money flooded in and before every mid-table team had a tactical coach and data team.

*3. He changed the game, not just his club*
Go to any academy or watch any PL game now and you’ll see Pep’s fingerprints. Inverted fullbacks, controlled possession, pressing traps, false nines. Managers across Europe copied him because it worked. Fergie was a master man-manager and could adapt, but he didn’t set the tactical blueprint for the next 20 years.

*4. He delivered in Europe when it mattered*

City’s first ever Champions League in 2023, plus 6 straight semis in 10 years. The UCL now is a minefield – every knockout tie is against another billion-pound squad. Fergie didn’t even get to a UCL final in his first 10 years.

*5. He kept it going without falling off*
Pep rebuilt that City squad 3 times. KDB aging, Aguero leaving, Cancelo drama, still they win. The system outlives the players. Fergie’s first 10 years was about building the culture. Once it was built, the trophies came in waves. Pep had the waves immediately.

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Fergie built United from the ground up and that deserves respect. But if we’re talking pure results, dominance, and impact on the game in the first 10 years, *Pep’s numbers and influence are on another level*.

20 trophies. 4 in a row. Changed how football is played. That’s the argument.

Nice write up except that you dubiously left our the biggest factor. Access to interminable and unprecedented money.

I remember when he was in La Liga, Epl fans said 👉 "Even Barca can play without a coach and still win tittles, let him come to Epl nah..,
When he was in Bundesliga, Epl fans also said 👉 German league is farmers league, only Bayern Munich dominate and win tittles he can't try such in English Premier League.
Epl fans too dey talk cho-cho-cho
🙏God bless you 👍 Pep Guardiola for proven that you are one of the best Coach in the world who also turn Epl among the farmers league 🤣

Princejuddy:
Arteta will turn epl to farmers league

Like Wale Turner.. Continue

Arsenal is bad, they ensured his fingers will not touch the EPL trophy again. Bye bye oooo

ARISHEM:
Man city should sit down and think deeply on this decision they are about to make.
Allowing him to go and replace him with the Chelsea Mascara might be dangerous decision.

He must be eyeing the Madrid job

Pep eyeing Madrid job? It wil never happen.

phr0nesis:
Maresca will help them to win the conference league 5 times in a row.

There was no conference league before Guardiola arrived in Man City

They were competing in the champions league before Guardiola came. They were in 7 consecutive UCL before Guardiola came.

They dn too beat am this past three seasons and he is running away when ovation is loudest

elder1002:
The best there was and there is

4 premier league in a row

Set the bar so high that you need to be consistent to win the league cup.

Master tactician and strategist

Converts average players to play one of the beautiful football ever seen in premier league


The best manager there ever was in premier league.

Pep




*Why Pep edges Fergie in the first 10 years*

Look at it straight up: *20 trophies in 10 years vs 6*. That’s not a small gap.

*1. He won more, and he won bigger*
Pep’s haul at City from 2016-2026:

*6 Premier Leagues,
1 Champions League,
5 League Cups,
3 FA Cups,
3 Community Shields,
1 UEFA Super Cup,
1 Club World Cup*.

That’s 4 titles in a row from 2021-2024 – no English club has ever done that. 100 points, 98 points, 93 points seasons. He didn’t just win, he broke the ceiling of what winning looks like in the PL.

Fergie in his first 10 years at United 1986-1996:
*3 PLs,
1 FA Cup,
1 League Cup,
1 Cup Winners’ Cup*.

Respect to the rebuild, but the output isn’t close.

*2. He did it in a tougher league*

Pep’s City had to beat peak Klopp Liverpool, this Arsenal team, and a Chelsea side spending crazy money just to get to May with the title. Every game in the PL now is a fight. Fergie’s early dominance came before the money flooded in and before every mid-table team had a tactical coach and data team.

*3. He changed the game, not just his club*
Go to any academy or watch any PL game now and you’ll see Pep’s fingerprints. Inverted fullbacks, controlled possession, pressing traps, false nines. Managers across Europe copied him because it worked. Fergie was a master man-manager and could adapt, but he didn’t set the tactical blueprint for the next 20 years.

*4. He delivered in Europe when it mattered*

City’s first ever Champions League in 2023, plus 6 straight semis in 10 years. The UCL now is a minefield – every knockout tie is against another billion-pound squad. Fergie didn’t even get to a UCL final in his first 10 years.

*5. He kept it going without falling off*
Pep rebuilt that City squad 3 times. KDB aging, Aguero leaving, Cancelo drama, still they win. The system outlives the players. Fergie’s first 10 years was about building the culture. Once it was built, the trophies came in waves. Pep had the waves immediately.

---

Fergie built United from the ground up and that deserves respect. But if we’re talking pure results, dominance, and impact on the game in the first 10 years, *Pep’s numbers and influence are on another level*.

20 trophies. 4 in a row. Changed how football is played. That’s the argument.

Fergie dominated the league of not for good coaches like Wenger,Mourinho United could have been winning the league back to back like Bayern are doing

elder1002:
The best there was and there is

4 premier league in a row

Set the bar so high that you need to be consistent to win the league cup.

Master tactician and strategist

Converts average players to play one of the beautiful football ever seen in premier league


The best manager there ever was in premier league.

Pep




*Why Pep edges Fergie in the first 10 years*

Look at it straight up: *20 trophies in 10 years vs 6*. That’s not a small gap.

*1. He won more, and he won bigger*
Pep’s haul at City from 2016-2026:

*6 Premier Leagues,
1 Champions League,
5 League Cups,
3 FA Cups,
3 Community Shields,
1 UEFA Super Cup,
1 Club World Cup*.

That’s 4 titles in a row from 2021-2024 – no English club has ever done that. 100 points, 98 points, 93 points seasons. He didn’t just win, he broke the ceiling of what winning looks like in the PL.

Fergie in his first 10 years at United 1986-1996:
*3 PLs,
1 FA Cup,
1 League Cup,
1 Cup Winners’ Cup*.

Respect to the rebuild, but the output isn’t close.

*2. He did it in a tougher league*

Pep’s City had to beat peak Klopp Liverpool, this Arsenal team, and a Chelsea side spending crazy money just to get to May with the title. Every game in the PL now is a fight. Fergie’s early dominance came before the money flooded in and before every mid-table team had a tactical coach and data team.

*3. He changed the game, not just his club*
Go to any academy or watch any PL game now and you’ll see Pep’s fingerprints. Inverted fullbacks, controlled possession, pressing traps, false nines. Managers across Europe copied him because it worked. Fergie was a master man-manager and could adapt, but he didn’t set the tactical blueprint for the next 20 years.

*4. He delivered in Europe when it mattered*

City’s first ever Champions League in 2023, plus 6 straight semis in 10 years. The UCL now is a minefield – every knockout tie is against another billion-pound squad. Fergie didn’t even get to a UCL final in his first 10 years.

*5. He kept it going without falling off*
Pep rebuilt that City squad 3 times. KDB aging, Aguero leaving, Cancelo drama, still they win. The system outlives the players. Fergie’s first 10 years was about building the culture. Once it was built, the trophies came in waves. Pep had the waves immediately.

---

Fergie built United from the ground up and that deserves respect. But if we’re talking pure results, dominance, and impact on the game in the first 10 years, *Pep’s numbers and influence are on another level*.

20 trophies. 4 in a row. Changed how football is played. That’s the argument.

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One was rebuilding and one came after rebuilding gas been completed. You should have compared the coach that came during rebuilding if Man City not when the food was ready.ancity between 2010 to 2016 already had 2 premier league, 2 league cups, FA cups and were the dominant team in the premier League but Man U weren't champions they were a team for the FA.

Another thing was the amount of money spent on players even the likes of blackburn and Newcastle outspent man u, the dude relied so much on home grown talents in his first 10 years unlike gauduola Man city , city was even known for buying 11 full squared members with their unlimited war chest. The impact of money in football can't be overemphasized, Even adjusted to inflation gaudiola spent over 2 billion euros and outspent Ferguson, yes gaudiola is a beautiful and excellent coach but their first ten years were in two different timelines with different variables to be considered.

geoworldedu:
They were competing in the champions league before Guardiola came. They were in 7 consecutive UCL before Guardiola came.

I know
I'm just trolling

ARISHEM:
Man city should sit down and think deeply on this decision they are about to make.
Allowing him to go and replace him with the Chelsea Mascara might be dangerous decision.

He must be eyeing the Madrid job

Guardiola can't take the Madrid as a result of his close tie with Barcelona. At club level, he has reached the highest level at a pretty young age,I think he might be trying out a new challenge by taking a national team job.

Time for Arsenal to dominate the Epl again. Happy days are coming. End of an era.

Comentator Dominique Beglin

dominique:
End of an era! 10 years, 20 trophies, greatest achievement in modern football! All the best to him with whatever he chooses to do next


I hope Man city will finally get penalised for the 115 charges levelled against them now that he's gone.

geoworldedu:
You forgot that Pep met a City that hasn't ever won the UCL before in their entire history and he gave them the UCL, unlike Fergie who met a United that has won a UCL before .

Is that why he couldn't win it at Bayern bcus Bayern has won it before.
For your information Red Star Belgrade, Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa and co have all won the ucl before, but are they still big clubs.
United won ucl in 1968 and went to relegation in 1973. How big can they be to have been relegated.
They got promotion and became a shadow of themselves where Liverpool, Forest, Villa, and co has become the "olori oko" of the league.
Not until Fergie came and vowed to bring back Man United to where it belongs which he did. He didn't only do that, he made Man United a global brand that only Barca and Madrid can compete with.
Man United hasn't won the league for 13yrs now. Yet they're still at the top of one of the biggest brand and most followed clubs in the world. That's the work of Fergie.
Even with Pep and City's present dominance, they're still far below Man United in terms followership and brand worldwide.
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You said City hasn't won the ucl before Pep came, yes but they have been knocking on the door just like Chelsea did before eventually winning it.
Before Pep came in 2016, City has been a constant Ucl appearance make since 2010.
It's inevitable they'll win it one day which came under Pep.
Just like I have been telling people that Arsenal too will surely win it one day which is not far away.
PSG won their first last year, credit to Enrique. But it wasn't that last year they became a big club. They have been for over 10yrs and have been knocking on the ucl door.
Enrique just like Pep will take the credit of being the first coach to win them the ucl but they aren't the ones who make the giants of Europe they're now.
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Contrast all this to Fergie who came to a struggling United trying to even make top half of the league table and howfar he brought United, then you'll appreciate his genuis.
Lastly, most of you think Fergie started his coaching career at United.
Nope, Fergie took unheralded Aberdeen to break the Scottish league duopoly of Celtic and Rangers. By winning the league twice, he even won them the Uefa cup beating almighty Madrid in the final, that alone is an achievement Aberdeen hasn't got again till date.
I doubt if Pep can manage a midtable team.
So I will say it one more time, you guys should celebrate your Pep and leave Fergie out of it.

richmond500:
He is the greatest coach ever to walk the planet.
Not even Ferguson comes close

..maybe u think Ferguson was handed oil money to spend anyhow the way pep did.... Ferguson achievement is far way better than pep.... Compare the budget and revenue generated from both managers, compare players transmission to the top and then compare the league standard back then and now ...the fact is pep is a great coach by spending but Ferguson is totally a different thing who believe in rebuilding of players to the top.

Reloadedisraelp:
..maybe u think Ferguson was handed oil money to spend anyhow the way pep did.... Ferguson achievement is far way better than pep.... Compare the budget and revenue generated from both managers, compare players transmission to the top and then compare the league standard back then and now ...the fact is pep is a great coach by spending but Ferguson is totally a different thing who believe in rebuilding of players to the top.

Pep was not a good coach in mancity, he completely farmed any league he went to

geoworldedu:
What do you mean? Tuchel, a very experienced coach couldn't win league with Bayern, what is my assurance that I can? Am I better than Tuchel who won UCL for Chelsea?

Bayern can win their league without a Manager . Winning the league with Bayern, Celtic, PSG and the likes is always a guarantee. The person at the helm of affairs doesn't matter. That' why kompany got relegated at Burnley and , he's now a 2 time Champion in Germany. Pep will equally get relegated with a team like Burnley. No cap

Kalulu44:
Is that why he couldn't win it at Bayern bcus Bayern has won it before.
For your information Red Star Belgrade, Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa and co have all won the ucl before, but are they still big clubs.
United won ucl in 1968 and went to relegation in 1973. How big can they be to have been relegated.
They got promotion and became a shadow of themselves where Liverpool, Forest, Villa, and co has become the "olori oko" of the league.
Not until Fergie came and vowed to bring back Man United to where it belongs which he did. He didn't only do that, he made Man United a global brand that only Barca and Madrid can compete with.
Man United hasn't won the league for 13yrs now. Yet they're still at the top of one of the biggest brand and most followed clubs in the world. That's the work of Fergie.
Even with Pep and City's present dominance, they're still far below Man United in terms followership and brand worldwide.
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You said City hasn't won the ucl before Pep came, yes but they have been knocking on the door just like Chelsea did before eventually winning it.
Before Pep came in 2016, City has been a constant Ucl appearance make since 2010.
It's inevitable they'll win it one day which came under Pep.
Just like I have been telling people that Arsenal too will surely win it one day which is not far away.
PSG won their first last year, credit to Enrique. But it wasn't that last year they became a big club. They have been for over 10yrs and have been knocking on the ucl door.
Enrique just like Pep will take the credit of being the first coach to win them the ucl but they aren't the ones who make the giants of Europe they're now.
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Contrast all this to Fergie who came to a struggling United trying to even make top half of the league table and howfar he brought United, then you'll appreciate his genuis.
Lastly, most of you think Fergie started his coaching career at United.
Nope, Fergie took unheralded Aberdeen to break the Scottish league duopoly of Celtic and Rangers. By winning the league twice, he even won them the Uefa cup beating almighty Madrid in the final, that alone is an achievement Aberdeen hasn't got again till date.
I doubt if Pep can manage a midtable team.
So I will say it one more time, you guys should celebrate your Pep and leave Fergie out of it.

City has won the league before

Lamasta:
Man United was not a small team when Fergie took over.....

I repeated again prime Man United managed by Ferguson was beaten by Barca Pep twice in the UCL, were also beaten to the league title in EPL by Pep City team......

The only thing you can use to rate Fergie above Pep is the longevity, when it comes to football coaching and management I rate Pep above him any time anyday with all due respect...

Stories. Man Utd was trash when Fergie took over in 1986. They were 11th or so on the table. I have tapes on the Fergie era in my family house. They went 26 long years without the league title.

Kalulu44:
Leave them, dem think say na small pikin full here

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