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AntiChristian:
Which of these Prophet(s) preached the trinity or the triune God before Jesus/Paul in the Bible?
Isaiah
Jeremiah
Ezekiel
Daniel
Hosea
Joel
Amos
Obadiah
Jonah
Micah
Nahum
Habakkuk
Zephaniah
Haggai
Zechariah
Malachi
Moses
Samuel
Nathan
Elijah
Elisha
Deborah
Gad
Ahijah
Micaiah
Huldah (prophetess)
Zechariah son of Jehoiada
Iddo
John the Baptist

Kobojunkie:
If what you are asking is which Prophets knew that the YHWH of Israel was not limited in the sense that He could take on human nature(complete with the experience without losing His divine essence in the process), then you are talking there of all of the Prophets beginning with Abraham. They all realized from the beginning that the Spirit of God is God. His Law, etc., is God.

AntiChristian:
➜No, God has three persons according to the trinitarian dogma! The father, son and the Holy Spirit. How many of the Prophets before Jesus preached God as being three distinct persons but one?

Kobojunkie:
In the Old Covenant, we read repeatedly of the Spirit of YHWH supposedly coming down to dwell with men even as YHWH Himself remained in His domain above. The Spirit did the Will of YHWH yet was able to remain and animate humans even as YHWH remained far from them. Was this not the case? From Genesis Chapter 1- 3, this much we are informed of. Yes? 😒

AntiChristian:
➜God send many messengers to work! He sent Angels to give messages, some to destroy! Are they also Gods like the one who sent them?
➜ Where is three in one God before Jesus?
➜ Show us the Prophets who preached the trinitarian dogma from the old testament?

Kobojunkie:
1. Are angels the same as the Spirit of God or something? 😒

2. We know the Spirit of God was considered separate from YHWH right from the Book of Genesis, do we not? Is he, the Spirit of God, not one of the three? 😒

3. Genesis was written by one of the Prophets, was it not? And all the prophets accepted that which was stated in Genesis, or did they not?😒

Kobojunkie:
1. Are angels the same as the Spirit of God or something? 😒

2. We know the Spirit of God was considered separate from YHWH right from the Book of Genesis, do we not? Is he, the Spirit of God, not one of the three? 😒

3. Genesis was written by one of the Prophets, was it not? And all the prophets accepted that which was stated in Genesis, or did they not?😒

AntiChristian:
➜Both can acts as God's messengers to carry out His will. And yes in Islam, the Spirit of God is a creation from Him and is not part of Him.
➜ Where does it say that the spirit was from God's essence or one with Him?
➜ Do they understand it as God in three persons but one God?
When Moses said "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is One. in Deuteronomy 6:4 - Was he talking about one essence in three persons? Bring proofs!

SirCloudControl:
Genesis was complied from different sources. You can do some study on JEPD sources.
Also angels are not the same as spirit of God. Or maybe they are the same.

SirCloudControl:
➜Genesis was complied from different sources. You can do some study on JEPD sources.
➜Also angels are not the same as spirit of God. Or maybe they are the same.

Kobojunkie:
1. I don't subscribe to theories that do not conform with history and available evidence. 😒. 😒

Dtruthspeaker:
They are not the same. Angels are servants of God.

God, The Lord and The Holy Spirit are Rulers

SirCloudControl:
➜That is because you have refused to read and do your research.
➜ Even biblical scholars teach JEPD in schools

SirCloudControl:
How do you know this.... Were you there when God was directly issuing them the commands?

Kobojunkie:
. Refused to read what? I read the Books of Israelite scriptures. 😒

2. I don't really give a flying fck about the opinions of your so-called biblical scholars, hence their bullsheet theories do not matter to me. 😒

Dtruthspeaker:
So it is only when you are present in a matter that you believe it?

Police are never there when crimes are committed and yet they find the criminal, so leave this childish argument

SirCloudControl:
➜Just so you know the Torah, Talmud, septuagint were complied by scholars over time.
➜ Perhaps the term biblical scholars got you confused

sonmvayina:
No prophet preached a triune god. God is one indivisible entity. The idea of a trinity was created by the Catholic church at one of their church council in the 5th century.

God is existence itself, God is one. Every other thing exist within God. I have posted a picture here before of Marduk with the universe as his garment. .... understand the symbolism.

SIRTee15:
Ezekiel preached a figure like a Man sits on the throne of God.

Is God like a man?
Who is that figure like a man

Please can you provide proper referencing, so I can read the context While at it, do well to check Isaiah 45:5
Isaiah 45:5
I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,
Thanks

Kobojunkie:
YHWH is right to state that outside of Him, even His own Spirit does not exist. He is YWHW, and out of Him His very own Spirit emanates. YHWH and the Spirit of YHWH are one, though distinct beings. 😒

sonmvayina:
➜It might interest you to know that we are that God spirit having a human experience.
➜ So if Jesus actually existed,he is no different from us.

Kobojunkie:
I am not interested in your private delusions but what is stated in the Books of the Israelites Scripture. According to the books, the Spirit of God is not man or any part of man. Rather, it is the breath that animates man; the same breath leaves man and returns to God once man dies. It holds nothing of the essence of man, as it is rather fully of God. Genesis Chapter 1 - 3 attests to this.

2. Again, I am not here to trade private delusions with you but engage in discourse regarding that which is, in fact, written down in the book. No other man is said to have been born exactly as Jesus Christ of Israel was; no man is born directly from the infusion of the Spirit of God with the essence of the human being. So, this claim of yours that Jesus Christ of Israel is no different from other men is fallacious. 😒

sonmvayina:
1. Please read Ecclesiastes 12:7 and psalm 104!29-31
2. That is enough reason to believe that he is a fictional character. Isn't it mush like Perseus of clash of the titans.

sonmvayina:
Please can you provide proper referencing, so I can read the context

While at it, do well to check Isaiah 45:5
Isaiah 45:5
I am the Lord, and there is no other;
apart from me there is no God.
I will strengthen you,
though you have not acknowledged me,

Thanks

Steep:
Which prophet before Mohammad called God allah?

Dtruthspeaker:
Isaiah 48:16 KJV: "Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me." (Here, "[the Lord God" and his Spirit" are mentioned alongside the speaker, often interpreted as the Messiah/Son).

Genesis 1:26 KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness..."

Genesis 11:7 KJV: "Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language